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So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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So one of my friends at work had an att tilt. However his son dropped it out of his pants pocket and the screen popped off. Screen is still in one piece however completly seperated from the tilt mechanism and the ribbon cable is missing. So I told him instead of throwing it away (cause att does not offer insurance) to give it to me and I'd see what I can do (Gonna unlock it and use it as an upgrade for my wing ).
I've read some of the hardware manuals and can already see I'll need parts to fix it. But I have no ideas what ones. Or if it's even worth it to fix. I mean its basically a free tilt minus any repair costs. Any help?
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Check thi site, there is a manual how to dismantle kaiser. Could be helpful:
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN
Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing. And alot of steps missing to get it this way.
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Thank you, however thats actually the repair manual I looked at. However while looking for parts I have yet to find the ribbon cable that connects to the display.
This is basically what I have except the ribbon cable is missing.
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OMG, that had to hurt.
Yeah, kid was playing basketball and fell out of his pocket. I guess the kid has broke 4 phones this month... curve, tilt, 2 pantec duos. Told my friend to get him a $20 go-phone now lol. And use the savings to get me a tilt
I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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Yeah, and I dont know what kind of damage besides the physical the drop may have caused. Phone was not on at the time so that may have helped it (I hope)
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I hope u repair it. Wish u luck.
Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
I suggest trying to find one broken on ebay and using the 2 you have to make one working phone. Even a broken Tilt can run for $200 on ebay though.
Anyone notice that case has already been replaced at some stage as it has a camera hole (not standard for Tilts) a keyboard without the white part and no logo. Perhaps the replacement was weaker than the original one. If the O/P searches the forum here for LCD Screen replacements there's loads of links to different companies supplying parts for Kaiser variants. I have no experience using any of them though so cant suggest which ones are best.
@Planet Neo
Yeah I was thinking that but was hoping it wouldn't come to that. Would suck to spend $200 for parts just to find the motherboard is broke or something to that effect. Was hoping someone knew of a place to buy a new cable or had one to sell. Also was hoping someone with some experience could let me know if they think I'd need a new tilt assembly.
@Flying Kiwi
Lol, I used a picture from kaiser disassembly guide to show what i was referring to. It has the standard tilt case. I'll be taking pictures of what I have as soon as I have the phone in my possession.
Okay I assume that its going to be very hard to get the ribbon and you're going to need housing. I believe that it will be the same as making a new tilt, because the screen is as good as dead without the ribbon so all you could do is get new housing and a new screen and it should rack up about $150-200. Which in my opinion is much easier and faster and better than frustrating on getting a ribbon.
Just my 2 cents.
Kraize
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Without actually looking at it, its hard to say what exactly you need. But you for sure need a new flex cable. Unfortunately that is the hardest part to find. At least here in the US. I usually buy broken phones from people who don't want to pay for a repair. Then I use the parts from them. You can get a new housing easily enough if you need it but the flex cable will be your biggest hurdle.
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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I'm sure you'll think I'm busting your balls / stalking you but hard to find? Hell no! Expensive, maybe ( $100) but hard to find? I think not. Good job you're not charging people for you expert advice else they'd be wanting refunds....how long did you say you'd been doing this for?
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=tytn+flex&category0=
You need a TYTN II flex. There are many other suppliers and if you go direct they may be a bit cheaper. google is your friend....
To check the board - connect to a windoze computer with a mini USB cable and power up or press the soft reset button to boot it - it should ident and install then try to sync. It should boot fine even with no LCD if it's OK assuming the battery still holds some charge.
A full housing will run you about $60. Some sellers have just front panels for about $40 though I'm unsure if these have the pivot.
M.S
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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Man, MS you really need to get off my nuts. It's getting creepy. I said in my post hard to find at least in the US. And the link you gave was for a seller in China. One more word of advice for the OP, Make sure this part actually works for the AT&T Tilt variant. I had a customer buy a Flex cable for the HTC Herald thinking it would work for the T-Mobile Wing but due to the modified button layout of the Wing it did not fit correctly. Much like this person HERE experienced.
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These things are made in Shenzhen so where you think the parts come from?
Stop talking &*%(* and I'll stop correcting your posts Instead of saying something is a fact say it's your opinion. It's not a 'rare' part - and they ship WORLDWIDE. It's not as if he'll get one from a local mom and pop store - it's gonna be mail order wherever you get it from and looking at the seller's feedback is a good judge - all my parts come from China - so why pay a middleman such as yourself extra $ just so it has a US stamp on the package?
Someone needs to act as quality control on your posts and it looks like it's gonna have to be me if you keep posting [email protected]
M.S
Hey everyone,
I got my Tilt in April and at that time AT&T did not offer phone inssurance for it. The far right side of my mini-usb port is bent a little and this makes it a bit picky about charging and syncing. AT&T said it voided my warranty and that they couldn't do anything and told me to call HTC and they said I would have to replace my WHOLE MOTHERBOARD. They also said it would cost $305 to replace the whole thing.
My question: is there anything I can do about this myself? I am so concerned because I would like to sell this to a friend but get the port fixed if possible. Is there any other way to get AT&T to get me a new tilt or fix "something else wrong with it"? I can still sell it to my friend but I could get a bit more for it if this was fixed.
Thank you for any help.
You can fix this yourself by installing a new mini plug, they are fairly cheap, there is a few threads that have discussed how to do this yourself , if you do not mind taking apart your tilt...
Check the Wiki out as well
Or maybe I could have just been rude and told you to search just like you did to another user earlier...hmmmm
That was a fairly obvious question. I have not been able to find any specific threads about this for the kaiser. Also did not find it in the wiki. But it would be easy to over look seeing as I must type all this from my phone because my computer is dead at the moment. I will look tomorrow at school.
put in mini plug in this forums search , there are a couple of threads with decent info in them.. one of them has a link to taking the kaiser apart, and also has a link to a place the has the mini plug for $15 and also will says they will install it for $79....not bad if you do not have the skills..
PPC Techs are the ones offering the service
http://www.ppctechs.com/HTC-Kaiser_971/repairs/Sync-Connector-Repair-Service_633-373.htm
Since my soldering skills suck, this is what I would do...
hey, does anyone know where I can get the European (not UK) prongs for the OEM HTC adapter? I don't need the whole adapter, just the part that slides in and out. I'd prefer a US located business, but if anyone can provide a link to where I can buy this, that would be awesome.
http://www.travisgarrison.org/temp/adapter.jpg
I have not done a search for these, so I do not know if they are available, but my suggestion is just buy a standard USB plug charger with the pins you want, it will probably be easier to find in the US and a lot cheaper than a HTC plug.
Same voltage.
Amazon do them, but you can probably find cheaper elsewhere.
http://www.amazon.com/International...e=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1274803914&sr=8-2
Yeah, that's what I'll do if I can't find what I'm looking for but I'd much rather prefer the interchangeable route.
You could try one like this..
http://www.pangadgets.com/proddetail.php?cat=7&prod=MCWOADUSB&gclid=CLX5waql76ECFVVo4wodo3JFIg
It can be used worldwide, and as spare at home
Thanks everyone for all the helpful suggestions, but I'm really just looking for that specific part. I already have lots of alternatives if I'm unable to find it.
When I saw the plug that came with the HD2 I thought it was a great idea - the same adapter for everyone, and just swappable pins. Was a little disappointed there was no euro/US pins also in the box - that would have added, what, 5p maybe to the price?
Even more disappointing if they don't sell just the pin parts separately.
Only solution I know is to get the official htc travel pack you can find it here.
The eu plug will be inside there. Of course also the us and australian and a case and a charger and cable as well. In my opnion a bit overpriced. But the only solution I know.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=195452
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Only solution I know is to get the official htc travel pack you can find it here.
The eu plug will be inside there. Of course also the us and australian and a case and a charger and cable as well. In my opnion a bit overpriced. But the only solution I know.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=195452
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item in post #4 above is cheaper, does the same job, and I am sure you could get a set on ebay even cheaper.
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item in post #4 above is cheaper, does the same job, and I am sure you could get a set on ebay even cheaper.
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the item above is exactly what I'm looking for. I don't think you're understanding that the point I'm trying to make is that I don't want the whole charger but just to find the prongs that slide in and out. Yes, you're right that the OEM knock-offs will do the job, and are much cheaper, but that's not what I asked for.
With that said, I'm certainly not paying the price they are asking for the travel kit. I may be picky but I'm not as stupid as HTC seems to think their customers are.
I am also looking for this "HTC EU Plug for TC P300 International Travel Charger" (this was the description that I came up with)..
Thanks to czacha234 I found the plug adapter!
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=181506
I called the USA branch of expansys and they ordered it for me. It was $8.99. Kinda spendy but way better than the 40+ that people are charging for the whole kit.
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=181506
I cracked my screen so I decided to order a new one and fix it myself, while in the process I accidentally tore the top flex circuit board and now I can't find spare parts other than screens anywhere. Does anyone know where I can get some or have one that is broken I am willing to pay ...
Hate when **** like that happens. . . try to fix something and something doesn't go right.
Not sure where you can get the parts you're looking for, but wanted to give props to you for taking the initiative to try and fix it yourself. Alot of people will be like "that's what you get for not just sending it back to HTC and having them fix it." How're you going to appreciate the intricacies of something if you don't take the occasional risk like this?
Hope you find what you're looking for.
Ps. Have you looked at http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp to see if there's anything you could repurpose to work?
Ha yea, I am definitely a DIY-er. Unfortunately this is a risk I knew I was taking heading into it, wasn't too worried though because I have fixed a lot of cell phones in the past, just got a little too careless with prying open with a flat head screw driver, it slipped and cut right into the flex circuit board. Should have been a little more careful haha. New screen looks great though! Now only if I could get it to power on! Of course HTC tells me it will cost up to $300 to send it to them to fix it.
http://www.lunacommerce.com/154-nexus-one
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=7921c16b7b46096e&hl=en
Not sure exactly, but is this what you are looking for? http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html
Yea I tried that number and also that lunacommerce site is located in China, no prices on their website, no way to purchase anything other than contacting them first (which I have tried to no avail...). You would think some online store somewhere would have started selling spare refurbished parts. Whatever, guess I will have to pay HTC to fix it, kinda sucky.
If you find somewhere that can help you, please post back. I just had a similar experience, replaced the digitizer and the display wouldn't work afterwards. Figured I had damaged the AMOLED, so purchased another. Problem still persisted.
I've decided that I must have damaged the AMOLED connector on the logic board.
The upside is I can still use the phone when connected to a PC and using Android Screen Monitor.
So now I've ordered another Nexus One, I find it hard to get by without my daily Android.... it became an expensive drop of the phone.
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Not sure exactly, but is this what you are looking for? http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html
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No that is what I replaced in the first place. I am looking for the Logic Board. I will keep searching and update this thread if I ever figure it out. Going on 3 days without a phone and only being able to use Google Voice via my computer is starting to drive me insane!
Hello all,
Have this baby since Dec. 2013 when I swapped it from a broken one.
Has been running since, no problems, no root, no unlock, all well.
Switched it to power off before a trip and wanted to power back on in airplane, no nothing, silence.
Long press, vol down + power, up + power, no change at all. Charging shows keyboard is full, no light on tablet. Connection to PC also nada.
Any ideas?
Ruud
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Well I'll be damned. Brought it to Asus. First off they told me that the tablet purchased in Holland does not have warranty in Russia, so I am to pay myself. I paid for a diagnose, so at least they tell me what's wrong. The result is, they told me the screen is completely to be renewed. My disagreement with this is simple. The screen goes dead and also no light is showing the charging status? The screen is dead but the device works, no way, then I should feel a vibration on power-on, because I power it down. The screen is dead and why does the HDMI not give output either?
So my question to You guys here, is this really possible ?
I disagree to pay 200 Euro's for a device still in warranty for a display repair, so I will have it returned to Holland and do warranty there, but I am really pissed with this.
AND, what a beaty to keep the nicely fitting TF700T in my hands again, it does not have the crazy connection between keyboard and tablet, this was SOOO much better.
Regards,
Ruud
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Ruud Westerhout said:
Well I'll be damned. Brought it to Asus. First off they told me that the tablet purchased in Holland does not have warranty in Russia, so I am to pay myself. I paid for a diagnose, so at least they tell me what's wrong. The result is, they told me the screen is completely to be renewed. My disagreement with this is simple. The screen goes dead and also no light is showing the charging status? The screen is dead but the device works, no way, then I should feel a vibration on power-on, because I power it down. The screen is dead and why does the HDMI not give output either?
So my question to You guys here, is this really possible ?
I disagree to pay 200 Euro's for a device still in warranty for a display repair, so I will have it returned to Holland and do warranty there, but I am really pissed with this.
AND, what a beaty to keep the nicely fitting TF700T in my hands again, it does not have the crazy connection between keyboard and tablet, this was SOOO much better.
Regards,
Ruud
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TF701 doesn't have vibration.....
Hello Darren,
not only do I seem do mix up my devices, I also do not seem to control them all, I was sure I reacted to this already. Yet, in Tapatalk I see your message is the last.
Sorry for mixing them up, it must be my HTC One which is 'waking me up' with a vibrate instead.
Yesterday I received my TF701T back from the local Asus Premium Service and I 'am not too impressed'.
To give You an idea of my bad feeling:
I gave a device which did not give any reaction at all, to whatever I do.
1)I was returned a device which shows the charging orange led, they must have changed something.
2)the charging light does not turn off, even after a complete night charging
3)touching the power button now turns on the display backlight, it can easily be noticed it bad light, it certainly did not do that before (I would have known I have a display problem).
-There are some scratches on the devices back which were not there before. Nothing to be angry about, but not made by me. The front is full of fingerprints, also certainly not how I gave it to them.
So, did I get something else back? I certainly have that feeling, but will probably never be able to show this. Do I judge this 'Premium Service', certainly not. I would have expected better care and an explanation on the changes.
The diagnose just says 'LCD Module needs to be exchanged'. My question as to 'why' was not answered, we do not do such diagnose.
My question 'if this would have been warranty, would it have been a Russian purchased device' was answered, 100% for sure. But as I have purchased it in Holland they are forced to deny the warranty. I would have to pay 213 Euro next to the 20 Euro I already paid for the diagnose. I decided to return the device to Holland for warranty repair instead. A new device including the Eng/Rus keyboard would be just double the price of the repair and makes it quite unrealistic to me.
Next to explaining this whole situation and providing copies of the documents given by Asus Premium Service here, when I give it away in Holland, anything else I should do?, other proposals ?
Ruud
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Ruud Westerhout said:
Hello Darren,
not only do I seem do mix up my devices, I also do not seem to control them all, I was sure I reacted to this already. Yet, in Tapatalk I see your message is the last.
Sorry for mixing them up, it must be my HTC One which is 'waking me up' with a vibrate instead.
Yesterday I received my TF701T back from the local Asus Premium Service and I 'am not too impressed'.
To give You an idea of my bad feeling:
I gave a device which did not give any reaction at all, to whatever I do.
1)I was returned a device which shows the charging orange led, they must have changed something.
2)the charging light does not turn off, even after a complete night charging
3)touching the power button now turns on the display backlight, it can easily be noticed it bad light, it certainly did not do that before (I would have known I have a display problem).
-There are some scratches on the devices back which were not there before. Nothing to be angry about, but not made by me. The front is full of fingerprints, also certainly not how I gave it to them.
So, did I get something else back? I certainly have that feeling, but will probably never be able to show this. Do I judge this 'Premium Service', certainly not. I would have expected better care and an explanation on the changes.
The diagnose just says 'LCD Module needs to be exchanged'. My question as to 'why' was not answered, we do not do such diagnose.
My question 'if this would have been warranty, would it have been a Russian purchased device' was answered, 100% for sure. But as I have purchased it in Holland they are forced to deny the warranty. I would have to pay 213 Euro next to the 20 Euro I already paid for the diagnose. I decided to return the device to Holland for warranty repair instead. A new device including the Eng/Rus keyboard would be just double the price of the repair and makes it quite unrealistic to me.
Next to explaining this whole situation and providing copies of the documents given by Asus Premium Service here, when I give it away in Holland, anything else I should do?, other proposals ?
Ruud
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waste of time if you ask me. i sent mine twice now, just got it back and now the sd card inthe dock doesn`t work immediately noticed.
It just mounts un mounts over and over formatted the sd and tested other devices \. so hey failed to repair.
I have now demanded a new one but asus still say only repair..
well i have owned the device for 5 months and they have had it for 3 month of that time......
not to mention they didn`t fix the issues it already had. even though claiming they replaced the board.
and i can see the keyboard has marks along the side as if the repairer couldn`t open it and damaged the plastic seals.
so i have escalated this and refused to repair a third time. i said send me a new one and i will send you my faulty one. otherwise i go to the fair trade for a complaint here.
Also several people on the forum have tricked themselves into believing this tablet is now great and no issues because they are using software better than the poorly delivered asus version.
yet when i read over their posts from the return from repair at asus they stated it still disconnects on occasions.
Well i`m sorry for being negative but while yes the device does have great specs and looks nice and should have been a top market seller, ASUS delivery of build quality destroyed any chance of that.
The lack of any dev except from 2 people shows just how poor this device is. compared to the tf700 which was terrible in io and had tons of people complaining yet it still received alot of development comparative to this device.
best of luck on your warranty adventures. lets hope Holland has more competent repairers than most other countries.
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waste of time if you ask me. i sent mine twice now, just got it back and now the sd card inthe dock doesn`t work immediately noticed.
It just mounts un mounts over and over formatted the sd and tested other devices \. so hey failed to repair.
I have now demanded a new one but asus still say only repair..
well i have owned the device for 5 months and they have had it for 3 month of that time......
not to mention they didn`t fix the issues it already had. even though claiming they replaced the board.
and i can see the keyboard has marks along the side as if the repairer couldn`t open it and damaged the plastic seals.
so i have escalated this and refused to repair a third time. i said send me a new one and i will send you my faulty one. otherwise i go to the fair trade for a complaint here.
Also several people on the forum have tricked themselves into believing this tablet is now great and no issues because they are using software better than the poorly delivered asus version.
yet when i read over their posts from the return from repair at asus they stated it still disconnects on occasions.
Well i`m sorry for being negative but while yes the device does have great specs and looks nice and should have been a top market seller, ASUS delivery of build quality destroyed any chance of that.
The lack of any dev except from 2 people shows just how poor this device is. compared to the tf700 which was terrible in io and had tons of people complaining yet it still received alot of development comparative to this device.
best of luck on your warranty adventures. lets hope Holland has more competent repairers than most other countries.
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Again and again, people never get tired..... I am using stock, with no problem... and I do not have to say it everytime someone has a problem. For the 10000000000000000000 time, unlike those who have a problem, those who dont will not post!!!! Regarding the development.. it is called devlopment... what are you lookinf for to develop? And if you think that developing is lacking because of the problems the tablet has, have a look on the samsung note2014... except if you think it has too, problems!
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Again and again, people never get tired..... I am using stock, with no problem... and I do not have to say it everytime someone has a problem. For the 10000000000000000000 time, unlike those who have a problem, those who dont will not post!!!! Regarding the development.. it is called devlopment... what are you lookinf for to develop? And if you think that developing is lacking because of the problems the tablet has, have a look on the samsung note2014... except if you think it has too, problems!
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+1 :angel:
Thanks guys for your opinions.
I have had the device back now for 2-3 days and it is charging continuously, the orange light never changes to green.
The changes of the device after the diagnose are so noticable that I am just wondering:
-did I get my device back or another one?
-did they replace my display for a broken one?
-did they remove or exchange the battery while they had it open?
As the device has no serial on the outside any of the above are possible.
Does any of You have an email from Asus where I could inform about what happened, before the device is even send to Holland again.
Edit: Even one more difference. If I connect it through USB with my PC and use Volume-Down + Power to switch it one, the PC is recognizing, installing a driver and comes back with ASUS Android Bootloader Interface (Device driver software installed successfully)
For the pro's, is there any way I could get to 'talk to the device' and see its content?
Over the weekend I am to try to connect through HDMI if I can see inside.
Regards,
Ruud
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