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[Q] Does the One discharge faster than charge?

After seeing how slow the One charges in Anandtech's review especially because fast charge is disabled, I have to ask this question, does it charge (AC not USB) if you are for example, browsing the web on​ it?

Definitely yes. I've only found one moment where it's discharged while charging.
That was when I was playing music as well as playing Shadowgun Deadzone at the same time. It was still charging more though because when the game was at a menu (i.e. not as much game activity) it would charge as normal.

KidCarter93 said:
Definitely yes. I've only found one moment where it's discharged while charging.
That was when I was playing music as well as playing Shadowgun Deadzone at the same time. It was still charging more though because when the game was at a menu (i.e. not as much game activity) it would charge as normal.
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Well that's great news as web browsing is as heavy as I ever go on my device, never play games.

I've noticed that while charging in the car and using GPS it discharges slightly faster than it charges so possibly on a very long trip you may eventually run out of power especially if you don't start off with a full battery.
With my iPhone 5 the phone would always charge when using it as a GPS and would get to 100% very quickly.
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The battery on mine does seem to go down pretty quickly, if you game youre looking at a few charges a day. At least that's how it's been for me.
Maybe my units a bit dodgy

Strange, on my evo shift (old phone if you've never heard of it), the battery will continue to charge even when running intensive activities such as playing 3D games and such
It also depends on the adapter...Battery Monitor Widget by 3c lets you see the input mAh

tdingene said:
I've noticed that while charging in the car and using GPS it discharges slightly faster than it charges so possibly on a very long trip you may eventually run out of power especially if you don't start off with a full battery.
With my iPhone 5 the phone would always charge when using it as a GPS and would get to 100% very quickly.
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Hi tdingene, just a quick question: do you have any ideia of how long that "very long trip" would be?
Thanks!

tdingene said:
I've noticed that while charging in the car and using GPS it discharges slightly faster than it charges so possibly on a very long trip you may eventually run out of power especially if you don't start off with a full battery.
With my iPhone 5 the phone would always charge when using it as a GPS and would get to 100% very quickly.
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That's really bad. I haven't had that for years (since my HD2). In the car try a 2amp car charger. May solve that.
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tdingene said:
I've noticed that while charging in the car and using GPS it discharges slightly faster than it charges so possibly on a very long trip you may eventually run out of power especially if you don't start off with a full battery.
With my iPhone 5 the phone would always charge when using it as a GPS and would get to 100% very quickly.
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Are you using a 2amp or 1amp charger?

How's your battery life?

My battery life is decent, but the charging time is the slowest I've ever seen on any device I've ever owned. I'm not even kidding. Surely it's just a defect on mine right?

Negative. My charge time was ridiculously slow. To the point that while I was charging in my car, if I was doing things along side it, my battery would actually go down. Plugged into wall, it is slow but charges though. Maybe its just US or a small number?

Waiting to get mine still. Did anyone else notice that on Sprint's website it said the One has a 19 hour battery life?

youkosnake said:
Negative. My charge time was ridiculously slow. To the point that while I was charging in my car, if I was doing things along side it, my battery would actually go down. Plugged into wall, it is slow but charges though. Maybe its just US or a small number?
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Well, I give this 3 days before I send it back. Literally the worst charge time I've ever seen.

Fadakar said:
Well, I give this 3 days before I send it back. Literally the worst charge time I've ever seen.
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It seemed a little better this afternoon, but I've basically had the device plugged in since this morning(10am)(got it at 55%, and albeit the majority of the time, it was plugged into the vehicle[which hasn't been very good anyways[[my GS3 also loses battery while on charge if doing anything concerning navigation or streaming]]]) and it literally hit 100% about 20 minutes ago. granted I've been using it like a pack mule. and I'm sure you have too.

youkosnake said:
It seemed a little better this afternoon, but I've basically had the device plugged in since this morning(10am)(got it at 55%, and albeit the majority of the time, it was plugged into the vehicle[which hasn't been very good anyways[[my GS3 also loses battery while on charge if doing anything concerning navigation or streaming]]]) and it literally hit 100% about 20 minutes ago. granted I've been using it like a pack mule. and I'm sure you have too.
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i heard they packed a li-polymer battery which makes the battery hold its charge longer for the life of the battery when compared to a li-ion battery.. and i dont think htc enabled fast charge like most devices...maybe someone will mod that for us...we need fast charge!!!!!!! still waiting on my ONE

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It seemed a little better this afternoon, but I've basically had the device plugged in since this morning(10am)(got it at 55%, and albeit the majority of the time, it was plugged into the vehicle[which hasn't been very good anyways[[my GS3 also loses battery while on charge if doing anything concerning navigation or streaming]]]) and it literally hit 100% about 20 minutes ago. granted I've been using it like a pack mule. and I'm sure you have too.
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Actually I haven't used it at all. Got it at 2 PM, was at 60%. Dropped my mom off at the airport immediately after, came home and it was 50% at 3:20 PM (which is okay because LTE was on by default and it's super patchy here so I turned it off). Plugged it in and showered, 15 minute shower and I come out and it's 50% still (plugged directly into the wall). Went to work at 5, 55% when I got there. Plugged it in to the computer we have at the front desk and over the course of my 5 hour shift it eventually hit 95% before I had to leave at 10 PM. Un-****ing-acceptable.

yeah, I'd say mine is a little better than that. I left the screen off and didn't use it for like 2 hours and it went from 73% to 91.

I bought a 2.1 amp charger and it hoes from 0 to 100 in 4 hours
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I don't have my One yet so I can't confirm this personally, but I've read in a few different places that the charging rate is a little slow compared to other phones. My guess is that HTC is trying to maximize the lifespan of the battery since it's non-removable. Quicker charging would generate more heat and might cause it to wear it out faster.

Yes this is the case. Check anandtechs review.
Brian speculates just as you do that it is for longevity.
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So how is the battery life for everyone? Hopefully it's good since it takes time to charge
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First day I got 15 hours. That was the usual installing apps and watching YouTube videos and showing my phone off to everyone at work. Will probably be awesome once I don't have such heavy usage.

adrianr514 said:
I bought a 2.1 amp charger and it hoes from 0 to 100 in 4 hours
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If I'm not mistaken, the phone has a smart battery or a circuit inside the battery that prevents it from drawing too much current. It is pretty much a standard among smartphones these days. Therefore, even though you use the 2 amp charger, you may not charge faster at all.
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adrianr514 said:
I bought a 2.1 amp charger and it hoes from 0 to 100 in 4 hours
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I have a 2.1amp charger and it took about 4hours to fully charge from 15%.
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Horribly slow charge times on mine as well. I think the GS3s super fast charge ability spoiled me.

LPChris said:
Horribly slow charge times on mine as well. I think the GS3s super fast charge ability spoiled me.
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My Galaxy S3 definitely charges faster with a 2AMP charger than 500 mA charger.
Do not charge from a computers USB port, they are going to be slow as **** without fast charge.
Just use a 1+ amp charger. Pretty simple people.

Don't put excessive work load on the device while charging in the car either

youkosnake said:
Don't put excessive work load on the device while charging in the car either
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The way people are talking, it seems that simply having GPS and navi going are too much.
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Nbonne said:
The way people are talking, it seems that simply having GPS and navi going are too much.
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I've found thats too much for most phones. It all depends on the charger(most car adapters are crappy), I'd assume. I've had the same with Evo, Optimus, GS2, and GS3. If anything is running alongside gps/navi, it destroys the battery

[Q] Battery Memory

So, I'm nervous about the fact that I can't replace the battery on my ONE. So far every night I've been staying up late until the phone dies, then plugging it in, waiting til the light stops flashing, then powering it up to charge while on overnight.
Problem is, this phone has awesome battery life. Right now at 10.30pm, I'm sitting at 41%, and debating just leaving it unplugged all night.
So what's the deal with memory on these batteries? How much, say over a 2 yr span, will charging a non-drained battery shorten its lifespan or lessen its capacity?
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MadDogMaddux said:
So what's the deal with memory on these batteries? How much, say over a 2 yr span, will charging a non-drained battery shorten its lifespan or lessen its capacity?
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Lithium ion batteries are awesome. They are lighter, smaller and do not suffer from "memory effect."
Do not drain then fully recharge this phone on a regular basis. That will accelerate capacitance loss. Keep it charged as much as possible, avoid fast charging, try to use your PC to charge it overnight. Do not leave it charging for too long (i.e. days on end). Though on board computers can refuse charging, it is best to stay on the safe side.
2 years, you will definitely notice a decrease in battery life, but by the time it becomes intolerable, you will have upgraded. I can almost guarantee that.
EDIT: Please add to/refute any statements I made if you have greater knowledge on this subject, people.

Thanks! Can you explain why using mr PC to charge is better?
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MadDogMaddux said:
Thanks! Can you explain why using mr PC to charge is better?
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Because it's a slower charge at a lower amp rating prolongs battery life by not boiling the cells
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customhdrider said:
Because it's a slower charge at a lower amp rating prolongs battery life by not boiling the cells
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Gottit. Thanks!

No problem,glad I could shed some light on the subject
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MadDogMaddux said:
So, I'm nervous about the fact that I can't replace the battery on my ONE. So far every night I've been staying up late until the phone dies, then plugging it in, waiting til the light stops flashing, then powering it up to charge while on overnight.
Problem is, this phone has awesome battery life. Right now at 10.30pm, I'm sitting at 41%, and debating just leaving it unplugged all night.
So what's the deal with memory on these batteries? How much, say over a 2 yr span, will charging a non-drained battery shorten its lifespan or lessen its capacity?
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As was previously noted, what you're doing is actually the worst possible thing you can do to a lithium ion battery. In general, best practice is to keep your battery somewhere between 10%-95% charge whenever possible. Once a month, you should "cycle" your battery under 10% (but not fully drained) to keep everything in peak condition. If you're ever not going to use the phone for any length of time, best practice is to drain to 40% and store in a cool, dark area.
When you first get a new device, you do want to condition it by doing three to five (varies on the device) full charge/discharge cycles, but after that, once a month with a conditioning cycle will take care of things for you. And again, as was previously noted, it's not a great idea to leave your phone charging overnight because you can't always depend on the battery controller chip.
These newer cells are all rated to relatively high cycle lifetimes, so I wouldn't worry overmuch. At that point, capacity is supposed to start degrading, although naturally it's going to happen a bit earlier for any number of reasons. I'd be much more worried about avoiding heat though than overcharge.

I'm assuming charging it slowly would keep it slightly cooler than a wall socket and closer to room temp, the better.
There is probably some other reason, but I'm not the person to ask. you can do some independent research. :good:
Just charge your phone when it needs it and don't when it doesn't. Do that and you'll be good until you upgrade no problem.
EDIT: Oh, beat me to it... haha
EDIT: Also, does the 40% apply to phones? Mobile devices never really turn off, they just go into deep sleep, I'm told. I was going to say that too, but then I remembered this. Does the 40% rule apply to non-removable batteries?

sauprankul said:
I'm assuming charging it slowly would keep it slightly cooler than a wall socket and closer to room temp, the better.
There is probably some other reason, but I'm not the person to ask. you can do some independent research. :good:
Just charge your phone when it needs it and don't when it doesn't. Do that and you'll be good until you upgrade no problem.
EDIT: Oh, beat me to it... haha
EDIT: Also, does the 40% apply to phones? Mobile devices never really turn off, they just go into deep sleep, I'm told. I was going to say that too, but then I remembered this. Does the 40% rule apply to non-removable batteries?
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It's a question of how much voltage you're chucking into the battery. If you use a low-voltage wall adapter it'll be the same as if you were charging from your PC.
The 40% rule applies to any battery, and they'll all discharge over time anyway (connected or no). If you shut your phone off, everything powers down except (if memory serves) what's necessary to run the internal clock. The impact that has should be pretty minimal (unless you're trying to bury your One for a thousand years, in which case...can't help you there).

Rirere said:
It's a question of how much voltage you're chucking into the battery. If you use a low-voltage wall adapter it'll be the same as if you were charging from your PC.
(unless you're trying to bury your One for a thousand years, in which case...can't help you there).
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Who would buy a low voltage wall adapter?
And yes, I would like to bury my One safely for a thousand years, so when it is found by the generation of humadroids, they will see it and be amazed that a civilization so primitive could achieve such technological mastery.

sauprankul said:
Who would buy a low voltage wall adapter?
And yes, I would like to bury my One safely for a thousand years, so when it is found by the generation of humadroids, they will see it and be amazed that a civilization so primitive could achieve such technological mastery.
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I don't know that I bought any, but I have a few lying around from yesteryear's gadgetry.
And at that point, why not launch it into space instead, a la HTC Nexus One?

So I use my phone as my alarm clock and also run the Relax and Sleep app all night. Otherwise I'd just plug it into my lappy throughout the day and not worry about it.
But that raises another question: running the phone overnight while charging it at the same time. Bad juju?
I plugged into my lappy last night around midnight, woke up this morning and had about 95% charge, rather than the usual 100%. I'm assuming this is the result of power output for Relax and Sleep cutting int power input from charging.
I've also been in the habit of leaving my EVO 4G plugged in while tethering. I assume this is also a bad plan?
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sauprankul said:
Lithium ion batteries are awesome. They are lighter, smaller and do not suffer from "memory effect."
Do not drain then fully recharge this phone on a regular basis. That will accelerate capacitance loss. Keep it charged as much as possible, avoid fast charging, try to use your PC to charge it overnight. Do not leave it charging for too long (i.e. days on end). Though on board computers can refuse charging, it is best to stay on the safe side.
2 years, you will definitely notice a decrease in battery life, but by the time it becomes intolerable, you will have upgraded. I can almost guarantee that.
EDIT: Please add to/refute any statements I made if you have greater knowledge on this subject, people.
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MOST of this advice is 100% true.
The only part that is not correct information is the advice to not let it die. It is perfectly OK to do this as long as you don't deep discharge the battery... Example like let it die then not charge it for like a week or something.
The science behind this is the fact that lithium ion batteries actually have a nominal voltage operating range which is like 3.2 - 4.3 volts or something like that. Your device is designed to shut itself down when it gets to about 3.5... This is done to protect the battery from deep discharge cycles.
Letting it die is perfectly alright. Just make sure you charge it soon after.
Also, you don't need to use your PC to charge it. That is in no way necessary. Your device came with a wall charger for a reason...
There are safety features built into the kernel and cable to keep you from damaging the device during charge. Use the wall.. It is perfectly safe and faster / more practical.

MadDogMaddux said:
So I use my phone as my alarm clock and also run the Relax and Sleep app all night. Otherwise I'd just plug it into my lappy throughout the day and not worry about it.
But that raises another question: running the phone overnight while charging it at the same time. Bad juju?
I plugged into my lappy last night around midnight, woke up this morning and had about 95% charge, rather than the usual 100%. I'm assuming this is the result of power output for Relax and Sleep cutting int power input from charging.
I've also been in the habit of leaving my EVO 4G plugged in while tethering. I assume this is also a bad plan?
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Your battery will automatically cycle between 95%-99.9999% to prevent overcharge, so you're fine on this front. You probably just caught it on the low end of the cycle.
The issue with charging + tethering is that a phone draws more power when plugged in (ramping up processor, etc.), and tethering eats a lot of power. More importantly, both charging the battery and running the antennas for tethering generate a lot of heat. So long as you watch your battery temp (most good tethering apps will toss in a temperature gauge, although if you're using stock you'll need another solution), you should be fine, but heat is one of the fastest ways to kill a Li-ion battery.
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MOST of this advice is 100% true.
The only part that is not correct information is the advice to not let it die. It is perfectly OK to do this as long as you don't deep discharge the battery... Example like let it die then not charge it for like a week or something.
The science behind this is the fact that lithium ion batteries actually have a nominal voltage operating range which is like 3.2 - 4.3 volts or something like that. Your device is designed to shut itself down when it gets to about 3.5... This is done to protect the battery from deep discharge cycles.
Letting it die is perfectly alright. Just make sure you charge it soon after.
Also, you don't need to use your PC to charge it. That is in no way necessary. Your device came with a wall charger for a reason...
There are safety features built into the kernel and cable to keep you from damaging the device during charge. Use the wall.. It is perfectly safe and faster / more practical.
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Although a full normal discharge (phone powering off) won't kill your battery in one go, it's a deeper discharge than I would recommend on a regular basis. Things are built with margins of safety, but I don't like playing on the edge when I can avoid it. The difference between 10%-15% isn't too much either when it comes to my use-case either, so I'm content to bounce between 20/30-95 most of the time.

Rirere said:
Your battery will automatically cycle between 95%-99.9999% to prevent overcharge, so you're fine on this front. You probably just caught it on the low end of the cycle.
The issue with charging + tethering is that a phone draws more power when plugged in (ramping up processor, etc.), and tethering eats a lot of power. More importantly, both charging the battery and running the antennas for tethering generate a lot of heat. So long as you watch your battery temp (most good tethering apps will toss in a temperature gauge, although if you're using stock you'll need another solution), you should be fine, but heat is one of the fastest ways to kill a Li-ion battery.
Although a full normal discharge (phone powering off) won't kill your battery in one go, it's a deeper discharge than I would recommend on a regular basis. Things are built with margins of safety, but I don't like playing on the edge when I can avoid it. The difference between 10%-15% isn't too much either when it comes to my use-case either, so I'm content to bounce between 20/30-95 most of the time.
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That is certainly a good point as well. No need to play on the edge of the cliffs. lol
You see my point tho
About safety margins

PSA: Dont ruin your batterys!

Lithium Ion Batterys DO NOT like to be charged at HIGH Temperatures
​After doing a heavy intensive CPU App, or playing a game and the back of the phone is getting really hot, let your phone cool off before charging
I played Plants VS zombies for an hour and the battery temps gradually rose to around 68C which is 154.4F
Let it cool before charging, use a battery temp app such as "Battery" to monitor temps
I learned the hard way on my HTC One X after letting it overheat and then charging it while it was overheating it reduced the capacity of the battery ALOT and got the Red light while flashing when charging witch means the battery has overheated
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Your Phone does not have any active cooling system for the CPU, it has Passive cooling witch uses the environment's temperature to bring down the temperature of the internal cpu
Your PC has Active Cooling (Heatsink + Fan)
The nexus 5 has passive cooling (Heatsink only)

same goes with just casual wireless charging. be careful
A battery dwelling above 30°C (86°F) is considered elevated temperature
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http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

I can't care less. It has 1 year warranty.

Odd, Is it really monitoring the battery temps? it seems to be linked to the CPU temp and the warm part is located on where the CPU is at and not the battery.

EarlZ said:
Odd, Is it really monitoring the battery temps? it seems to be linked to the CPU temp and the warm part is located on where the CPU is at and not the battery.
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it's to my understanding there are 2 sensors in the N5, one for battery and one for cpu

Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.

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Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.
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Explain my dead HTC One X battery? Exactly not everything works as it should be.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/slyp087/slyp087.pdf
if the temp gets high enough the chip cannot react fast enough
or if the charge falls too low lets say 2 volts it cannot charge again because it isn't a safe charging voltage

I think he was actually saying that the charging circuit wouldn't allow the battery to charge at high temperatures. I cannot verify that but since the charging circuit prevents over draw and over charge by cutting "power" it makes sense
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It will cut off after reaching extremes. You don't want it reaching those extremes ever though or it WILL take it's toll on the battery.
Battery's don't like heat. They don't like extreme cold either.

Don't think the battery will ever get to 110F as the phone will shut down/not charge at that temperature until it goes down. Therefore, you probably couldn't spoil the battery if you tried with this fail safe implemented.
With someone's personal testimony about a fried phone, I can offer my testimony that I used a wireless charger on my Nexus 4 + played games until hot + charged whenever I wanted to and the phone, which my GF uses now, isn't any worse for wear.

Especially because the Nexus 5 has a Li-Po (lithium-polymer) and not a lithium-Ion battery
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Hi
These batteries don't like heat full stop, they are like perishable foods and degrade quicker the warmer they are, regardless of being charged or not. This is why laptop batteries do not do well when the laptop is used mostly on the mains, nothing to do with constant top up charging, it is because the battery is constantly held in the warmth of the running laptop all day and age much quicker.
Lithium batteries do not work well in extreme cold, but this isn't permanent and they return to normal when back to room temperature, and lithium batteries are held refrigerated for storage, just like a perishable food.
Regardless of being used or not, the battery will lose a considerable amount of its capacity just by ageing over a year or two. Given the various safety controls built in, it is fairly difficult to cause much more damage than time alone will cause, so you might as well just use and abuse the battery anyway, especially as most people will be replacing the phone after a couple of years.
Regards
Phil

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Don't think the battery will ever get to 110F as the phone will shut down/not charge at that temperature until it goes down. Therefore, you probably couldn't spoil the battery if you tried with this fail safe implemented.
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i dont think you know what the fail safe temperature is
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/cVuWVDW-hyY
there's a thread with someone's n5 getting to 45C(113F) while playing games and without shutting down, and he lives in Canada. imagine what temp it would be at in any reasonably warm climate
110F is not safe if you want to preserve the longevity of your battery. period.

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Irrelevant as the phone has built in protections. If it is too hot it stops charging. FUD spreading.
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Not irrelevant... Mine overheated while attached to my laptop and the led screen blew up. It developed a black bubble at the bottom near the home button.
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george241312 said:
@op what phone in this world currently has an internal fan on it ?
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No phones currently have no active cooling on them

Also heres what happened to my HTC One X
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...e-x-battery-draining-rapidly-overheating.html
It drained rapidly and the backside was always hot when it wasn't even in use just sitting on my desk caused it to got hot
and i would charge it to 100% and took it off the charger ~10 mins it dropped to 70% just sitting there idle and the back is super hot
my point is the charging circuit only controls for overcharge with is extremely dangerous

george241312 said:
@op what phone in this world currently has an internal fan on it ?
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Just another example of Google cutting costs to put out this cheapo piece of %$))$!
But actually I did manage to really cook my phone! I set it (plugged in!) in a south-facing window to shoot time-lapse and oh-so-cleverly the sun bright winter sun was streaming through the thermal glass, and on to the silky black phone and...physics happened! About 15 minutes in my insta-greenhouse and I heard a strange whimpering 'ding!' from the phone -- when next I looked it had shut itself down. On reboot Dashclock was reporting "Overheat" "Not charging", and temp of 60+ degrees (can't remember the exact number but it might have been as high as 68!) Panic & a few minutes in the freezer brought it back to normal.
Take from that what you will:
1. It really dislikes being treated like a tomato seedling.
2. Idiot user didn't understand the 'greenhouse effect"
3. The phone does stop charging and goes into shutdown when things get too hot.
Before you judge too harshly, I want to point out the most obvious factor; a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!

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Before you judge too harshly, I want to point out the most obvious factor; a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!
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And the size and weight of the phone would grow enormously. Are you kidding? And what phone offered anywhere by anyone does what you suggest?

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...a truly earth-shatteringly great phone would have come packed with the necessary technology to protect the phone in such cases -- maybe that would be a fan, or maybe it would be better served with a liquid cooling system, but whatever it should have, clearly Google cut corners yet again!
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I'm not the smallest guy on the planet, but can you imagine the size of a the pair of cargo shorts/pants that would be needed to carry a liquid cooled smartphone? Massive!! lol
Fwiw, my N5 routinely gets to 107-111f when doing some intensive things with other background intensive things running as well (i.e. banning trolls on my phone both through Tapatalk and Dolphin while listening to a streaming content on mobile wireless and sitting in the sun soaking up some Vitamin D).
Oh ya!!
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Woody said:
I'm not the smallest guy on the planet, but can you imagine the size of a the pair of cargo shorts/pants that would be needed to carry a liquid cooled smartphone? Massive!! lol
Fwiw, my N5 routinely gets to 107-111f when doing some intensive things with other background intensive things running as well (i.e. banning trolls on my phone both through Tapatalk and Dolphin while listening to a streaming content on mobile wireless and sitting in the sun soaking up some Vitamin D).
Oh ya!!
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It ain't about the pants, it's about Google being too damn cheap to deliver truer-than-true state-of-the-state-of-the-art! Come to think of it, if Google had the balls to fill those pants we'd have the phone we really deserve!
68 Celsius is about 154 Fahrenheit. But as I said, because it was actually being cooked at the time.

Moto x heat issues

Hi,been on moto x for 20 days loving the phone,althogh i have a query regarding phone heating.whenever i charge the phone,phone nd charger get super hot and im kinda scared it would damage my phone,so i charge for 1 hour only,do your phone also geta hot.
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Think this is normal coz my Moto x also does that.. The charger becomes too hot and the phone too, but lesser than the charger..
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Its normal. Whenever I'm charging the phone and using it at the same time, the phone heats up as well as the charger. It happened with my last Motorola phone as well. No worries.
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I don't know, I mean OP is in Delhi, India, which is pretty hot, I am in Calcutta, hot here too, but still I can say after Galaxy S2 this is the coldest phone I have ever got. I mean yesterday I was charging at 1500 mA and playing Riptide simultaneously for more than an hour but still the heat was very manageable. On S4 while I charged that phone forget about gaming I could not even hold the phone to my ear in case of a phone call, it was that hot (the earpiece) that it seemed like it would burn by ear!
So I have zero complaints about the heating issue of this, because from my POV there is none. Also I am Overclocked at 1.9 GHz. So I really wonder when I see these heating issues, maybe different batch, don't know.

To be honest im at office which is centrally air conditioned and i charge my phone there in like crazy cold (our facilites manager suck ) and still its hot and i have been android user for quite long and i know what is normal hot like all android phones are and crazy hot . . do you guys think i should ask for replacement
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sharan2036 said:
To be honest im at office which is centrally air conditioned and i charge my phone there in like crazy cold (our facilites manager suck ) and still its hot and i have been android user for quite long and i know what is normal hot like all android phones are and crazy hot . . do you guys think i should ask for replacement
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Well there are two ways to look at it. AC is on, and you saying crazy cold, so I am guessing below 25°C, and if ambiance is that low then when you touch the phone it will feel hot, cause when the phone is being charged the battery will definitely reach 35+ degrees, so anything higher than ambiance will feel hot.
From another point, if the ambiance is low then phone should not reach high temperatures, so it should not be hot.
Maybe use the phone in normal conditions? At around 30°C and check if you still feel it hot? If you still do then definitely ask for replacement.

Hi guys got my Moto X a week back... I was just wondering the optimal temperature range for X. I am usually getting 34°-39°C in normal use without using any heavy apps. Even when I use whatsapp or open play store this is the normal temperature range is 35°-39°C. While charging it goes upto 42°-46°C. I just want to know whether its normal for you guys as well. I also played reptile gp2 which can't be considered a very heavy game. The temperature clocked was 46°C.
Are all these temperature range normal. Please suggest if I should go for replacement. I could easily get a replacement since the phone is not even a week old.
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That should be fine even I am getting the temp levels
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35-39 is normal i guess
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