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Cyanogenmod and other roms?

I wish someone would be able to port this onto our devices. Can anyone shed a light regarding this topic please?
Please put all your suggestions and questions here.
The more demand it is, the better. Maybe a developer might get the device and start porting well known roms with native jelly bean? 4.2?
=D I don't want to come across as a leecher, I am just interested in getting to grips with rom'ing and the android way. I don't want to regret getting this device. =)

That is just it, once the dev gets the device then things get ported.
However, I will say that with the latest releases from Samsung (4.1.2 on the 9300, will be with us sooner or later) with the latest additions including Multi Window I am going to stick with the TW framework as I feel these innovations outweigh having a cleaner Android rom. Having had mine for well over a month now and using a Launcher ontop of TW I can honestly say I have not experienced any lag anywhere which is the only reason I would go for a non TW build in the first place.
Just my view, am sure others will feel differently!

chippyuk said:
That is just it, once the dev gets the device then things get ported.
However, I will say that with the latest releases from Samsung (4.1.2 on the 9300, will be with us sooner or later) with the latest additions including Multi Window I am going to stick with the TW framework as I feel these innovations outweigh having a cleaner Android rom. Having had mine for well over a month now and using a Launcher ontop of TW I can honestly say I have not experienced any lag anywhere which is the only reason I would go for a non TW build in the first place.
Just my view, am sure others will feel differently!
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That's a good point actually. But I want to be able to try different roms so i can form some sort of opinion. maybe dual boot a stock android based rom like paranoid android, cyanogenmod and a touchwiz based rom to try the note 2 multi window features.
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Dual boot! Well that is a completely different ball game!

It would be really a shame if our device wouldn' get any attention. LTE technologie and 2 gigs of ram should be worth developing. I just asked teamhacksung at irc chat if there would be any developing, but the answer was no.
I really hope someone comes up with new ideas and methods (as I am a total noob at this stuff and would sadly never be able to do all the programming).
With all the customisation, kernel and stuff my old sgs1 is almost as fast, if not faster than my sgs3 LTE (apart of booting of course).
Let's get some loving for our black smartphones =]
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Its all timing realy, if they had released the 9305 at the same time as the 9300 then most would have opted for the 9305 but they did not and most cannot afford another handset etc... leavign our community pretty small. However the 9305 is now becoming more widely avaialble with sim free retailers starting to stock them soon so things may pick up, you never know!
We may loose out a little here but I guess all we can look farward to is that the next flagship will have the 2gb and probably LTE from the offest.
I have happily been running a ligher rom with a launcher and custom notifications etc... am happy with that, for now anyway!

hoeni said:
It would be really a shame if our device wouldn' get any attention. LTE technologie and 2 gigs of ram should be worth developing. I just asked teamhacksung at irc chat if there would be any developing, but the answer was no.
I really hope someone comes up with new ideas and methods (as I am a total noob at this stuff and would sadly never be able to do all the programming).
With all the customisation, kernel and stuff my old sgs1 is almost as fast, if not faster than my sgs3 LTE (apart of booting of course).
Let's get some loving for our black smartphones =]
Sent from my GT-I9305 using xda app-developers app
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Yes dont worry about teamhacksung they are in tantrum mode with samsung havent you heard? LOOL Because samsung have not released the sources as of yet. So just hope we have other devs that step on the plate if you want CM10 Which i dont like that much. Or hope samsung releases the codes,
People like cm10 cause its faster UI but have you tried the 4.2 launcher on our phone? i think it Is exactly the same speed UI as CM10 only with less options. So It doesnt take much to get the same smoothness its just that touchwiz has more animations and is much busier then Pure JB... So patience is the key now and we have to wait and see which dev decides to start working

Yeah, my I9305 lay about 2 Days, because my I9000 with the great CM-based Mackay Rom and the fantastic Semaphore Kernel are awesome in speed, look and Features. But S3 with stock not.. But after some reading, I decided to Pandoriam Rom for my S3 and it's great until now. But i miss the simple Grey cm10 Theme, a solid Kernel to set govenours/deep idle and the whole Stuff, the only 3g Option, that gorgeous lockscreen and most Voodoo sound. I hope that will come with time everything.
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Post your first impressions

So I've just flashed OmniROM on my LG Optimus 4X HD (p880). Probably this is the first unofficial build, built from Gerrit repos, I'm really proud of myself.
I'm pretty impressed that there were only a few changes needed and almost everything works, only BT doesn't work (easy to fix). I really like the quick settings flipping and how it shows Wi-Fi IP address when flipped. :good: I attach some screenshots.

Adam77Root said:
So I've just flashed OmniROM on my LG Optimus 4X HD (p880). Probably this is the first unofficial build, built from Gerrit repos, I'm really proud of myself.
I'm pretty impressed that there were only a few changes needed and almost everything works, only BT doesn't work (easy to fix). I really like the quick settings flipping and how it shows Wi-Fi IP address when flipped. :good: I attach some screenshots.
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Is this build available for download? Really eager to try it out
And will you be maintaining for the P880 on a Nightly/Weekly/whenever flexibly based? Sorry for asking that, just curious

penguin449 said:
Is this build available for download? Really eager to try it out
And will you be maintaining for the P880 on a Nightly/Weekly/whenever flexibly based? Sorry for asking that, just curious
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Not yet. It's not even built from published sources, though there isn't much change in published ones yet.
Yes, probably I will.

Nice to see
In terms of going forward in terms of builds, we will be addressing these issues when we can. For now though, Omni isn't "officially" released in any kind of binary packages.
When the time comes, we will invoke the release processes, which will give nightly builds, with a weekly "tagged build". On Omni, nightly builds are expected to be stable, and encourage bug reports on them. A "weekly" is just a nightly that is tagged as "working fine", for those who don't want to update every day.

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For now though, Omni isn't "officially" released in any kind of binary packages.
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Not anymore: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481929

When OmniROM is going to be released on Nexus 4?

I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol

mgbotoe said:
I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol
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I hope it looks like AOSP out of the box, who cares about CM/AOKP?

Testraindrop said:
I hope it looks like AOSP out of the box, who cares about CM/AOKP?
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Considering cm/aokp look just like aosp...I care it dont look like that o.o

Can somebody who's already built and run the ROM do a hands-on impressions video of it?

mgbotoe said:
I hope they will have their own theme going on soon...was hoping it wouldn't look like cm/aokp out of the box lol
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The current look is the "AOSP" look. I imagine that longer term, there will be reason to look into modular theming systems. A lot of people want a "pure android" look, and generally the best way to avoid breaking things is to make any themes optional extras.

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The current look is the "AOSP" look. I imagine that longer term, there will be reason to look into modular theming systems. A lot of people want a "pure android" look, and generally the best way to avoid breaking things is to make any themes optional extras.
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Thank you, you kind sir for the response

Sounds really nice guys!!! Happy to see entropy and xplod working on android roms again after the cm thingy! Also nice to see that maxwen is working on this!

Made a build for the Nexus 10. I installed it breefly and from what i could see is that it is indeed mostly AOSP. Nice touch is the rotating tiles. If you rotate the wifi tile, you will see the ip adres.
Anyway i am still too much used to some CM additions (like the ability to close all apps at once).
It is a good start and will keep an eye on the development.

scanno said:
Made a build for the Nexus 10. I installed it breefly and from what i could see is that it is indeed mostly AOSP. Nice touch is the rotating tiles. If you rotate the wifi tile, you will see the ip adres.
Anyway i am still too much used to some CM additions (like the ability to close all apps at once).
It is a good start and will keep an eye on the development.
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More features on the way
It's mostly AOSP right now, we are currently in the process of adding a lot of the "useful" parts we know and love. If you want to get involved, feel free to do so on Gerrit.

pulser_g2 said:
More features on the way
It's mostly AOSP right now, we are currently in the process of adding a lot of the "useful" parts we know and love. If you want to get involved, feel free to do so on Gerrit.
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So another build for i9500
Everything is working except Bluetooth
Love it ^^

I've installed tilal6991's build on my Xperia T and it works like a charm. No superuser for some reason but otherwise it's perfect! Can't wait for this project to mature
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Made a build for HTC Explorer,and it's running great,albeit with a few bugs(most are easy to fix)
The major thing i noticed was that all 4.3 roms for this device have a "lockscreen lag bug",but this doesn't!

sakindia123 said:
Made a build for HTC Explorer,and it's running great,albeit with a few bugs(most are easy to fix)
The major thing i noticed was that all 4.3 roms for this device have a "lockscreen lag bug",but this doesn't!
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Woah dude, you got this running on an Explorer? That thing is like...ancient. I didn't even think it would be capable of Android 4.1+ Props!

CM vs GPe - What's the difference?

Hey guys,
since i'm currently a flashaholic and dont want to stick with sense rom's (i just dont like them, can't say why). I'm trying around a bit, mostly with GPe rom's.
But whats the real difference between GPe and CM based rom's?
- Which rom/version is more stable?
- Which rom/version got the better perfomance/battery life?
I know that CM based roms are having more features and looking nice (at least for some peoples).
But i want a overall good performance, stability and moderate batterylife.
Thanks in advice

kewkie said:
Hey guys,
since i'm currently a flashaholic and dont want to stick with sense rom's (i just dont like them, can't say why). I'm trying around a bit, mostly with GPe rom's.
But whats the real difference between GPe and CM based rom's?
- Which rom/version is more stable?
- Which rom/version got the better perfomance/battery life?
I know that CM based roms are having more features and looking nice (at least for some peoples).
But i want a overall good performance, stability and moderate batterylife.
Thanks in advice
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You've to try the roms for choose which is better.
Howeve the GE have some features like beats audio and some thing from sense, and the update are from htc with the latest release of android.
The CM rom have some features like the editing of status bar and so on, and are built from developers

Well, i dont hear that much music, so beats-audio is useless, not at all, but a bit.
I'm tired of testing around
Just thought you guys can share your experience with some of your used roms

kewkie said:
Well, i dont hear that much music, so beats-audio is useless, not at all, but a bit.
I'm tired of testing around
Just thought you guys can share your experience with some of your used roms
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The problem is that mod don't like thread as: which rom is better for you?
This rom have a better battery then this?
And questions like this

Yeah i know, but it actually isnt a thread like this
I just wanna hear some experience

Google play edition roms are built on HTC's framework, or they were when it released. AOSP roms are actually built from AOSP framework using the libs and drivers and device trees that have been custom built for the one.
So the foundation of the Google Play edition, the part the user never sees, is a lot closer to stock sense from HTC minus the interface and launcher, while CM and other AOSP roms are built from AOSP style source code (CM from their source, others from their own custom source code some of which is truly custom and some of which is modified from CM source)
There's a lot of advantages to running AOSP source code based romms if you're going for an AOSP rom, but theres also a lot of users that can't use adb or fastboot and don't want to learn how and don't care to read into a rom thread, and the google play edition stuff is nice for people who want a phone with a stock google launcher, that doesn't have the sense interface heft, and just want things to work with an out of the box type experience. You know the type, they don't do a clean install for six months and wonder why the headlights in their car blink and settings force closes when they press the volume rocker.
There are certain apps that will work with the GPE and others that will only work with AOSP source, so on and so fourth. Half the people are better suited for GPE rom's and stockish foundations and then the other chunk of the people only buy their phone so they wipe it till its raw getting HTC stuff off and get custom AOSP source based roms on instead. It all depends on the user and what's better fitted for their experience.
In your case if you're not running sense roms at all and you like to follow development from what I've seen because I've seen you on here a good bit, I'd get into some real AOSP for a bit and see how you like it. The good thing about AOSP is that it's infinitely customizable and any user that wants too could be theming in a week and compiling/merging source in a month and cooking roms for their personal use. Most people way less than that. That doesn't mean that the devs publishing roms don't have a lot of time in them, it's just much easier to compile and work with the source than the HTC source is and the senseish framework.

Thanks @CharliesTheMan Thats a pretty good answer
Well i liked CM/AOSP rom's on my other phones and never used stock-ish ones.
Well, mainly i use my phone for phoning around (no sh*t! lol), social networking, taking photos and derping around a bit.
I never used the sense-features (blink feed, zoe, beats-audio etc. - i like the gallery, but honestly.. i like quickpic much more, i like it minimalism), neither like the look of sense.
I'm just a bit scared of using an AOSP rom, i dont really now why.. maybe scared of phone-signal-breaks, quality breaks or something like this.
But to be honest, i have to test it by myself i know, like the performance, stability and battery - its stuff i have to test and figure out by myself, because everyone is using the phone not in the same way and everyone got other recommendation from a rom and i got the point you wanted to say with your post

Android 4.1.2 CM

Since Lg updated the o4x to 4.1.2, wouldn't it be great to have this modded Into cm and make a final release with everything working, I've been trying so many roms but non exceed stock reliability, I think that a port from stock to cm based with everything working would be great for all users, truth I don't care about android version, but cm experience is great. Maybe instead of working on forever bugged ROMs with no official android release, try using the base of what lg has released and make a rock solid ROM featuring cm experience.
Just my thoughts,
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leortez said:
Since Lg updated the o4x to 4.1.2, wouldn't it be great to have this modded Into cm and make a final release with everything working, I've been trying so many roms but non exceed stock reliability, I think that a port from stock to cm based with everything working would be great for all users, truth I don't care about android version, but cm experience is great. Maybe instead of working on forever bugged ROMs with no official android release, try using the base of what lg has released and make a rock solid ROM featuring cm experience.
Just my thoughts,
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In My opinion roms are not "forever bugged"; what one dev, or a team of devs do with a custom rom is... customising.
What you are asking for is steadyness, immobility, what devs do is pushing the limit of knowledge a step further and develop something new that did not exist before under the form in which it is now.
In addition, custom roms are made also to compensate the lacking of development from the original manufacturer. LG supoorted the development of their firmware up to ver 1.2, custom roms are 4.2.2, o 4.3 already and take advantage of many powerful feature in our device that could be better used if the device would not be abandoned by the manufacturer.
Mind that i am not against the fact that phones are forgotten by their manufacturer one o two years after they have been presented, it is a market law... still, with custom roms we can enjoy our highly priced toys for many, many years and, yes, have a lot of fun with them. Sometimes roms are buggy, it is true, but i believe that if one is here, in this forum, it should be to contribute to make things better, and not for complaining about (free) buggy roms.
In addition, CM needs very few contribution from LG base, as it is AOSP based, that is, pure Android, with no fancy UI and bloatware, and current official stable version 10.1.3 (corresponding to Android 4.2.2) is rock solid, or at least, not more buggy than LG 4.1.2.

I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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Try SlimBean latest demetris build.Or zaiben rom.I get great battery life with both of them and almoust none baseband wakelock.Even if it is there it doesnt reflect on battery life that much anymore.
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Ottonet said:
In My opinion roms are not "forever bugged"; what one dev, or a team of devs do with a custom rom is... customising.
What you are asking for is steadyness, immobility, what devs do is pushing the limit of knowledge a step further and develop something new that did not exist before under the form in which it is now.
In addition, custom roms are made also to compensate the lacking of development from the original manufacturer. LG supoorted the development of their firmware up to ver 1.2, custom roms are 4.2.2, o 4.3 already and take advantage of many powerful feature in our device that could be better used if the device would not be abandoned by the manufacturer.
Mind that i am not against the fact that phones are forgotten by their manufacturer one o two years after they have been presented, it is a market law... still, with custom roms we can enjoy our highly priced toys for many, many years and, yes, have a lot of fun with them. Sometimes roms are buggy, it is true, but i believe that if one is here, in this forum, it should be to contribute to make things better, and not for complaining about (free) buggy roms.
In addition, CM needs very few contribution from LG base, as it is AOSP based, that is, pure Android, with no fancy UI and bloatware, and current official stable version 10.1.3 (corresponding to Android 4.2.2) is rock solid, or at least, not more buggy than LG 4.1.2.
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Nothing is ever as stable as Stock. And with Root, you can remove bloatware, with xposed you can change the ui etc. etc.
leortez said:
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
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You are right, if we built CM9 (ICS) or CM10 (JB4.1.2) these would probably be better on the battery, and with official drivers etc, it would be stable. (in theory)
dimi89 said:
Try SlimBean latest demetris build.Or zaiben rom.I get great battery life with both of them and almoust none baseband wakelock.Even if it is there it doesnt reflect on battery life that much anymore.
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He is asking about CM10, in all honesty, CM10.1 is just an improved CM10, there are not many differences in all honesty.. It is obsolete now anyways, so 4.4 is going to be prioritized, CM10.1 and above have more to offer, i don't think CM10 will ever be developed for our device, it is too old now.

penguin449 said:
Nothing is ever as stable as Stock. And with Root, you can remove bloatware, with xposed you can change the ui etc. etc.
Well, CM10.1 is rock stable. Never had a random reboot, and trust me, I was tetsing my kernel on it pretty heavily
You are right, if we built CM9 (ICS) or CM10 (JB4.1.2) these would probably be better on the battery, and with official drivers etc, it would be stable. (in theory)
You can't just take official drivers on CM. You might be able to do so on AOSP, but I'm pretty sure it won't have an effect. Actually I think it would make it even unstable
He is asking about CM10, in all honesty, CM10.1 is just an improved CM10, there are not many differences in all honesty.. It is obsolete now anyways, so 4.4 is going to be prioritized, CM10.1 and above have more to offer, i don't think CM10 will ever be developed for our device, it is too old now.
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Well, If i happen to have some spare time (pretty unlikely though ATM), I might try to compile CM10, but you better do not expect it TBH

Not sure what TBH means but It would be great to give it a shot, hoping it will work better than the newer versions.
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leortez said:
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
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How do I reproduce these bugs?I dont seem to notice them.

leortez said:
I dont question development, im a cm and custom kernels fan myself, but what I mean is that there are no significant differences between the jellybean versions, 4.1.2 is quite good in my opinion, and I'm not complaining either, but I have not seen a cm implementation based on 4.1.2. Thing is that for this phone there is a critical bug that many people can't stand independent from performance or how beautiful, etc. Which is present in both 4.2.2 and 4.3 And that is baseband being very unstable. I keep rebooting my phone 2-3 times a day to get back signal and data.Tested with all kernels. Which I believe this is not a kernel related problem. So I think that if we use cm 4.1.2 this issue could be solved.
By no means I discard the efforts that Devs. Have put into this phone, I'm just giving an idea that could be worth taking in consideration.
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
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I had all those signal bugs, but in the latest nightly of 4.3.1 that bug is near to be solved, it still happens but less often than before, in the past since CM10 RC5 I suffered that annoying bug, and i stoped using CM based ROMS, the problem is not the kernel, the problem is the RIL programmed by CM developer team, and for lucky for us they have been worked on our problem, I passed of reboot my phone every 20 or 30 min to reboot once or none per day when the phone can't get signal again

AOSP vs CM11 - Speed and Stability

Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!

CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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Tanmaynarang said:
Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
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Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
Connor Baker

THEBANDIT420 said:
CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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I've never experienced this, but I can see it happening because of the smaller range of kernels (since it's CAF).
Connor Baker said:
Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
Connor Baker
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Valid points, I see CyanogenMod being geared as much more developer friendly and extensible, they even have better documentation for AOSP's tools than AOSP does
I want the ROM to be stable and fast, but also ready for customization, where I see AOSP not being very extensible.

So speed and stability is democracy now?

Actually if you are building a ROM from source, you are better off starting with aosp and merging the caf patches then go from there. You can look at patch commits/gerrit to see how to add in the features that you want since the code is normally available to see and will give you what line and all. In the process, you have something to call your own and learn the coding structure and source which is invaluable
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cm, fast? lmao..

simms22 said:
cm, fast? lmao..
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Keep Preaching brotha! Lol

He is Right about CM
tommypacker said:
Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
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The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.

v3ng3anc32002 said:
The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
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cm was fast until about mid 2012. then they just started piling on as much as possible into the rom and it has been slower since. when steve(cyanogen) used to spend much time working on cm kernel, thats when cm was known for speed, back in the beginning and a little after cm started. back then, they werent about feature, more about minimalism. now its all about feature.

AOSP>CM
Always.
At any aspect.
CM has become so low and weak ROM since 2013. In the past it was the fastest and the most non-bull**** custom firmware but now as it's available for so many devices it's become sluggish, slow and the quality doesn't even exist. Another thing against CM is that they decided to use CAF code on Nexus devices. I can't understand it as well as other devs working in Nexus sections. I remember CM7 on my legendary HTC G2. It was so fast and damn feature-filled as for those times. Now it's gone. Formerly, my first thought on custom ROMs was CM, now it's quite different... I am so disappointed with CM nowadays.
Just my opinion tho ?
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The hell are people knocking caf code for??? It is aosp code with fixes for specific hardware by the people who actually make the hardware, wtf would you not use it for????
As far as cm fast, bwhahahahahaha, it hasn't been fast since about cm4 back on the g1/mytouch when dwang came into the picture. Cm's goal evolved to bleeding edge features and getting on as many devices as possible while dwang was straight aosp Roms with speed and stability as the goal
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If you own a nexus CyanogenMod is just as stable if not more so. Latest nightly is flawless.

I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.

Konstantinos said:
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
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faster than velocity?

pincher65 said:
faster than velocity?
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.

Konstantinos said:
Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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A real test would be turning animations completely off and seeing what's faster. That's where real speed and optimisation can be noticed. 1.0 is just too damn slow.

Konstantinos said:
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
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Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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calyxim said:
Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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stock jellybean??? kitkat??

I'm stock unrooted on my n5 so far, running art and no animations. Feels blazingly fast to me. I miss custom Roms for the themes and a couple features they usually include but other than that stock has been almost 100% stable even with art.
I reboot it once every week or two and saw one soft reboot the other day in the couple months I've had it, not sure what caused it.
Still trying to decide if its worth rooting and what ROM to run. I like art which rules out stock with xposed.
I've been a chronic ROM flasher on every phone I've had until this one. It just works so good I'm afraid to mess with it. Especially when I've got warranty.
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