Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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Tanmaynarang said:
Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
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Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
Connor Baker
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CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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I've never experienced this, but I can see it happening because of the smaller range of kernels (since it's CAF).
Connor Baker said:
Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
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Valid points, I see CyanogenMod being geared as much more developer friendly and extensible, they even have better documentation for AOSP's tools than AOSP does
I want the ROM to be stable and fast, but also ready for customization, where I see AOSP not being very extensible.
So speed and stability is democracy now?
Actually if you are building a ROM from source, you are better off starting with aosp and merging the caf patches then go from there. You can look at patch commits/gerrit to see how to add in the features that you want since the code is normally available to see and will give you what line and all. In the process, you have something to call your own and learn the coding structure and source which is invaluable
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cm, fast? lmao..
simms22 said:
cm, fast? lmao..
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Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
He is Right about CM
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Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
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The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
v3ng3anc32002 said:
The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
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cm was fast until about mid 2012. then they just started piling on as much as possible into the rom and it has been slower since. when steve(cyanogen) used to spend much time working on cm kernel, thats when cm was known for speed, back in the beginning and a little after cm started. back then, they werent about feature, more about minimalism. now its all about feature.
AOSP>CM
Always.
At any aspect.
CM has become so low and weak ROM since 2013. In the past it was the fastest and the most non-bull**** custom firmware but now as it's available for so many devices it's become sluggish, slow and the quality doesn't even exist. Another thing against CM is that they decided to use CAF code on Nexus devices. I can't understand it as well as other devs working in Nexus sections. I remember CM7 on my legendary HTC G2. It was so fast and damn feature-filled as for those times. Now it's gone. Formerly, my first thought on custom ROMs was CM, now it's quite different... I am so disappointed with CM nowadays.
Just my opinion tho ?
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The hell are people knocking caf code for??? It is aosp code with fixes for specific hardware by the people who actually make the hardware, wtf would you not use it for????
As far as cm fast, bwhahahahahaha, it hasn't been fast since about cm4 back on the g1/mytouch when dwang came into the picture. Cm's goal evolved to bleeding edge features and getting on as many devices as possible while dwang was straight aosp Roms with speed and stability as the goal
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If you own a nexus CyanogenMod is just as stable if not more so. Latest nightly is flawless.
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
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I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
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faster than velocity?
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faster than velocity?
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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A real test would be turning animations completely off and seeing what's faster. That's where real speed and optimisation can be noticed. 1.0 is just too damn slow.
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I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
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Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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calyxim said:
Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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stock jellybean??? kitkat??
I'm stock unrooted on my n5 so far, running art and no animations. Feels blazingly fast to me. I miss custom Roms for the themes and a couple features they usually include but other than that stock has been almost 100% stable even with art.
I reboot it once every week or two and saw one soft reboot the other day in the couple months I've had it, not sure what caused it.
Still trying to decide if its worth rooting and what ROM to run. I like art which rules out stock with xposed.
I've been a chronic ROM flasher on every phone I've had until this one. It just works so good I'm afraid to mess with it. Especially when I've got warranty.
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Related
http://omgdroid.com/cyanogenmod-10-preview-arrives-for-the-google-nexus-7-tablet/
Tried it and it's really fast and smooth.
Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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Features, theming, tweaks, more control over your device.
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Features, theming, tweaks, more control over your device.
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I looked at some videos of CM10 on YouTube but besides the ability to put widgets on the lockscreen, I didn't see all these features and tweaks that you're referring to. Can you expand on that? Also, what do you mean by "more control over your device"?
I'm not downplaying or dismissing CM. Just trying to understand why it's so popular.
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I looked at some videos of CM10 on YouTube but besides the ability to put widgets on the lockscreen, I didn't see all these features and tweaks that you're referring to. Can you expand on that? Also, what do you mean by "more control over your device"?
I'm not downplaying or dismissing CM. Just trying to understand why it's so popular.
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This CM10 Preview is a VERY basic build, and will probably not have as much of the added functionality that CM9 would have (this is something I assume as I have not flashed this ROM yet). CM allows you much more control over customizing your device by adding more options under Settings, and also by including tweaks / fixes / new features. Things such as themes, Advanced Power Menu, more control over navigation bar, themes (yes I said that twice for a reason ), different launcher.
It also, in many cases, can make your device more responsive / faster by removing a lot of the 'bloatware' and unnecessary background apps that some manufacturers out in their ROMs.
Gotcha. Thanks for the rundown.
They would have a hard time to get me to use CM again, I once had a so-called "stable" build of CM 7.03 on my Desire last year and it had to be rebooted almost every day to fix a glitch here or there, presumably because of all the hacks/tweaks they use. Problems went away after going to a pure AOSP ROM.
Remember this is just a preview.
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Not sure if this has been asked on the forums, but can someone please tell me exactly, what is the difference between this and CM10[JellyBro] Nightly Kangs? I want to use the latest one as possible. Also, I know this is the Nexus 7 forum, but the same can be said for the Galaxy Nexus (maguro). Are the JellyBro Nightly Kangs the way to go for the latest CM10 previews?
Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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Can someone tell me what the allure of Cyanogenmod is over the regular, stock Android?
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well, afaik, more settings, faster, more mods, better customisability, themes, etc..
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Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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So this ROM is officially by CM himself? Does it run JellyBean? Also, does the Galaxy Nexus have official CM builds with JB?
https://plus.google.com/113334764480431682966/about he is one of the CM maintainers. This is a Nexus 7 forum not Galaxy Nexus.
O hay guyz when will th3re be updaytes for dis!?22211?11!!!
Heh, jk. Looks absolutely fabulous!!! I'm continuously blown away by the CM team. I can't wait until this is stable enough for a daily driver. This is my first tablet so I can be a little more daring. Nightly are almost always stable enough, but now that I have a phone AND a tablet it'd be all right to tinker even more so with the tablet.
This won't be good for my flashing addiction. We need a support group for all the married dudes with upset spouses lol
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Kangs are not official, this one is. I would recommend sticking with official since we got it now Official nightlies should come soon too.
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The ONLY difference between a nightly kang and an 'official' build will be cherry-picked features that have not been added to the official version. Usually, these are small tweaks that will within a week or two be added to the official releases.
There are no other differences. Stability will, almost inevitably, be the same between the two.
sassafras
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The ONLY difference between a nightly kang and an 'official' build will be cherry-picked features that have not been added to the official version. Usually, these are small tweaks that will within a week or two be added to the official releases.
There are no other differences. Stability will, almost inevitably, be the same between the two.
sassafras
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If they are the same, I'm going going to stay with the KANG nightly builds.
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Salty Wagyu said:
They would have a hard time to get me to use CM again, I once had a so-called "stable" build of CM 7.03 on my Desire last year and it had to be rebooted almost every day to fix a glitch here or there, presumably because of all the hacks/tweaks they use. Problems went away after going to a pure AOSP ROM.
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Cyanogen Mod has come a long way. CM is in 7.2 stage for the Desire HD at the moment. I wouldn't trade it for anything. Not once have I gotten a force close a random reboot or any other issues on CM7.2. Just because you have one bad issue, doesn't mean it should stop you from using their other roms. Remember you flash custom roms at your own risk and the word customer should make you expect issues here and there. :cyclops:
I'm interested to see which ROM everyone is running, and to see some recommendations.
paranoid android with the latest monty kernel. pure excellence
BAMF Rom pretty decent and its pretty stock with a few tweaks..
CM10. Pretty stable for the most part
Euroskank cm10 kang
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I'll play. I came from two HTC devices. I thought CM was the solution to everything. The first thing I did was install every CM rom looking for the best one. None were as good as stock. More features, yes, but not as stable and choppier performance. Turns out CM is the solution to sense because it's really the closest you can get to pure Google on a Sense-based device.
I've made the rounds trying everything else out there the last week or two. The best rom I've run in terms of stability and performance is Pure AOSP. It's what I thought I had been trying to get when I tried the CM roms. It really is pure Google.
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Hi everyone ... I'm currently running stock jellybean 4.1 rooted. So I'm looking for a ROM which is stable and fast with good battery life and stock frequencies!!! I b no means want to highjack the thread so I request u to mention what ROM ur Running followed by how it compares to stock ROM. Cheers!!
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I'll play. I came from two HTC devices. I thought CM was the solution to everything. The first thing I did was install every CM rom looking for the best one. None were as good as stock. More features, yes, but not as stable and choppier performance. Turns out CM is the solution to sense because it's really the closest you can get to pure Google on a Sense-based device.
I've made the rounds trying everything else out there the last week or two. The best rom I've run in terms of stability and performance is Pure AOSP. It's what I thought I had been trying to get when I tried the CM roms. It really is pure Google.
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i always thought that CM was always buggy and not top performance, but when i finally tried it out on my nexus it wasent to bad. But i do agree that stock is faster in performance, and i really like AOKP which has more features i think, and is better performance, but i think that roms based off of mostly stock with a few features will get you the best performance and battery life.
Glazed ROM, Very fast, I like the ability to use Edge swipe to hide the system bar, turn on /off animations looks awesome with cobalt donate theme.
Glazed JellyBean- fast and stable, no non-working apps or hardware issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
Nice thing about the stock ROM for the N7 is it doesn't suck (once rooted).
Some tablets have such poor factory ROM's that you're pretty much required to run 2nd party ROM's, but for most users- the stock ROM for the N7 is good enough and will do just fine.
Jr6 ROM, based on android jellybean 4.1.1
I'm stock & rooted on my N7 and my GSM GNex... For the 1st time in as long as I can remember, I don't feel the need for a custom ROM with JB 4.1.1 running so smoothly..
Stock and rooted. I haven't found a reason to try another rom yet.
Stock rooted with Motley's kernel running at 1.6 GHz. I agree with the other guys, I haven't felt the need to run a custom ROM (yet). JB is really smooth and the other ROMs don't seem to provide any other amazing features over the stock ROM. Once all the ROMs get out of alpha/beta I may be tempted to switch.
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going ahead and trying the glazed rom and see how it works, seems the most complete or out of beta/alpha stage
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Glazed ROM, Very fast, I like the ability to use Edge swipe to hide the system bar, turn on /off animations looks awesome with cobalt donate theme.
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Same here! Extremely smooth with the ability of customization!
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robdroyd said:
Glazed JellyBean- fast and stable, no non-working apps or hardware issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
Nice thing about the stock ROM for the N7 is it doesn't suck (once rooted).
Some tablets have such poor factory ROM's that you're pretty much required to run 2nd party ROM's, but for most users- the stock ROM for the N7 is good enough and will do just fine.
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I just converted to glazed.. It rocks, and is buttery fast.
Running Team BAMFs ROM. It's stable and smooth.
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Wouldn't 2nd party be like HTC sense and Samsung touchwiz?
I'm on Glazed and I love it. The mod app that hyperrunner is making looks awesome
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Just stock, but rooted. I never have been one to care about all that crap, unless it was my only option to be most up to date.
I've flashed a few custom ROMs + Kernels on my Nexus 7, but I always return to stock. I find stock JB to just be rock-solid, with great battery life.
I've found that most custom ROMs have some tiny issues, and they always bug me. Same with custom kernels. There's always an occasional crash here or there, or some unexpected jerkiness.
But I guess it's always a compromise. If you want features/performance, you'll have to live with bugs/lower battery life. But, being a Nexus, we'll get newer, feature-filled versions of Android right away!
So what about you guys? Do you feel that custom ROMs/kernels are lacking that perfection and finesse the stock ROM has? Or is your custom ROM completely stable with absolutely no bugs?
I love the custom ROMS. No complaints from me. I prefer some version of CM...usually AOKP. They are always upgrading it, so there are some small problems with it at times but I really enjoy it too much to complain or go back to stock. Don't get me wrong stock is very smooth with few problems.
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K3lthuzad said:
I've flashed a few custom ROMs + Kernels on my Nexus 7, but I always return to stock. I find stock JB to just be rock-solid, with great battery life.
I've found that most custom ROMs have some tiny issues, and they always bug me. Same with custom kernels. There's always an occasional crash here or there, or some unexpected jerkiness.
But I guess it's always a compromise. If you want features/performance, you'll have to live with bugs/lower battery life. But, being a Nexus, we'll get newer, feature-filled versions of Android right away!
So what about you guys? Do you feel that custom ROMs/kernels are lacking that perfection and finesse the stock ROM has? Or is your custom ROM completely stable with absolutely no bugs?
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I love the roms and never have problems with them. But i always end up back a stock. Even if the rom i m on :s fine
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Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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Nexus without custom roms . ohh my just sounds wrong.
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Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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I so agree with the above.. Also your opinion is welcome but due note that these developers are doing this as a community effort for FREE.. They improve our devices give us some things Google decided to leave out. Also im not sure you are aware of this or not . But often you will see some of the So called custom rom stuff injected into future GOOGLE STOCK ROMS... Google does watch the development community and use there code from time to time . My guess is alot more then they would tell...
Thanks Guys We love your Bleeding edge technology . We do appreciate everything...
Cyanogenmod works perfectly on both my phone and nexus 7. It's the best of both worlds really. Clean stock look but with a sprinkle of customization.
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You have to figure that 98% of us wouldn't be on this forum if we weren't using or interested in using custom ROMs.
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pre-Gingerbread --> custom ROM required
post-ICS --> stock is fine
My bootloader isn't even unlocked on my N7 and it's only unlocked on my GN so I can flash updates once OTA or images are posted.
I agree that all the roms are great. My favorite is PA, love that rom. But after a while i just feel like going back to stock. But then its not long before i am back on pa.
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I don't like custom Roms on devices that have the latest version of android available. I just root. Adding a custom kernel only makes things unstable.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
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Don't know what crap ROMs you've been using but all the ones I've ran were fine. Same goes with kernels.
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Denial.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
erica_renee said:
I so agree with the above.. Also your opinion is welcome but due note that these developers are doing this as a community effort for FREE.. They improve our devices give us some things Google decided to leave out. Also im not sure you are aware of this or not . But often you will see some of the So called custom rom stuff injected into future GOOGLE STOCK ROMS... Google does watch the development community and use there code from time to time . My guess is alot more then they would tell...
Thanks Guys We love your Bleeding edge technology . We do appreciate everything...
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I agree with the OP on ROMS, I haven't found one "better" than stock yet. Different yes, more/other customizations, yes. But so far not better. Yes, the devs do this for free, and for their own reasons. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't state our preferences. There are kernels that improve the device greatly, running one myself. But I've tried more than half a dozen custom ROMS and none gave me anything that would make me stick with it. Always went back to stock.
Not knocking all the hard work and effort. It's pretty amazing what some of these devs come up with, wish I had the knowledge and skills they have. Might try to pick up some basics, just so I understand more of everything involved with it. But I'm a system guy, not really a software dev.
Keep in mind we are nitpicking, custom features on new code it takes sometime implement them properly. I am rocking stock at the moment with stock recovery just cause Google is moving fast this time of year.
So take any bug with the custom Roms like this, yes it has more features, you may or may not be affected by bugs. If that bothers you then rock stock. Cause once cm hits stable that's when everything usually falls into place.
Just hopefully we can have less people posting silly complaints on in process releases. Go look in the Ubuntu thread, some user is just posting "its slow" or " there is no reason to use this" as if was a final product makes me smh
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Soldier-2Point0 said:
Denial.
My current ROM:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892807
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Heh... I'm NOT in denial.
I haven't used a single ROM in the android development I only used ones from original development. Slim bean, eos, rasbean... all exceptional ROMs. Currently on rasbean and its by far the best for myself. Used trinity and Francos kernel have had better results with Francos, his is just about an optimised stockish kernel.
Always go with the people that know what they're doing. Not somebody who just builds aosp and throws some scripts and quadrant hacks to allude "speed"
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Nothing better than pure stock Android on a NEXUS device. Period.
It's different on a non nexus Device due to carrier's skins but on a NEXUS device come on people you know there's nothing better than pure stock.
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We shoul be lucky we have so many options for our Nexus 7, Stock ROM is rock stable and smooth , and to add to that we have almost 7-8 different custom ROMS which are also stable each with their own features and 3-4 different kernels to play with
I am flashing different ROM every 4-5 days
Play around people thats what I like about Android - complete control of your device and Nexus - quick latest stock updates and lots of custom development
Agreed, I prefer stock rom, but also I like to root it, and change fonts...
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Heh... I'm NOT in denial.
I haven't used a single ROM in the android development I only used ones from original development. Slim bean, eos, rasbean... all exceptional ROMs. Currently on rasbean and its by far the best for myself. Used trinity and Francos kernel have had better results with Francos, his is just about an optimised stockish kernel.
Always go with the people that know what they're doing. Not somebody who just builds aosp and throws some scripts and quadrant hacks to allude "speed"
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How are the latest build of rasbean. I only used build one or two.
Any chance you can link me to them?
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I'm not too into the roms in android development either, the ones in original development are pretty damn good though and eclipse Rom is really fast, I was into the stock only phase till 4.1.2 and imo development seem a lot better and roms just seemed actually faster than stock to me, rasbean, eclipse, pa, and bugless beast seem to do the trick for me
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Well you obviously haven't tried the RasBeanjelly ROM from rascarlo. When you try that one and the latest Trinity D-07 kernel, then you can talk about going back to Stock ROM.
leelaa said:
How are the latest build of rasbean. I only used build one or two.
Any chance you can link me to them?
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http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/?rom=rasbeanjelly&device=grouper
But no tablet UI, so no good for me. Great apart from that!
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Hi,
I'm looking for a fast and light ROM. I have a Nexus 4 now so my tablet is pretty much just used for taking notes at University and watching the occasional YouTube video.
I looked and managed to find AOKP M6 Slim, however this seems to be discontinued and as a result, outdated.
If installing a more feature-heavy ROM and removing features is viable, could someone point me in the right direction to do that?
Thanks in advance.
codefireX.
Best ROM available, performance wise.
Still very rich in features and customization. Includes option to turn off nearly all aftermarket customizations and features, besides performance ones.
I highly suggest pairing with motley kernel.
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Cm10.1
Super close to stock. They're really up on responsible coding. Nothing that goes against AOSP. All about just working.
I usually go in through titanium backup and remove programs I don't need
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I like Paranoid Android but you are going to get a different response from everyone. PA runs really smooth for me. It is not as feature filled as a lot of the other roms but gives some nice customization options. PIE control is also really nice as it allows you to take advantage of the entire screen.
The bottom line is that the only way to find the best ROM for you is to do some research and flash a few different ones. Try them for a few days and then switch if you are not pleased/get bored.
liquid smooth
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Rasbean. But that's the benefit of owning a nexus, you have so many options.
But I'm pretty positive once you flash rasbean, you won't flash anything else. I would advise flashing other roms first and then go to rasbean. You'll notice the difference.
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Carbon is smooth and customizable. My new favorite
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I love that everyone posted a different ROM.
I fell in love with Xylon, it has A TON of features and customizations. I think it borrows (kang) popular features from a lot of ROMs and all the features are optional. Not to mention the ROM is super fast and smooth which I wouldn't expect from A ROM with so many features.
I personally use the custom faux kernel with it, makes the ROM that much slicker, and my battery lasts for an entire day.
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To all Cm 10.1 users
I'm on stock ROM 4.2.2 , it's pretty fast stable and battery life is much much better than my previous phone GS3.
CM10.1 was unstable on GS3 and had alot of bugs.
Any annoying bugs on Cm10.1 for N4?
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uronfire said:
To all Cm 10.1 users
I'm on stock ROM 4.2.2 , it's pretty fast stable and battery life is much much better than my previous phone GS3.
CM10.1 was unstable on GS3 and had alot of bugs.
Any annoying bugs on Cm10.1 for N4?
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The bugs on the Samsung are due to the difficulty obtaining sources from Samsung. No such problem on the Nexus, and CyanogenMod is as stable as stock and you get the extra features to boot.
ALL of the roms for the Nexus 4 are fast because the phone is fast. I doubt anyone could tell the difference without running benchmarks so you should really just try a few and make a choice based on which feature set you like.
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The bugs on the Samsung are due to the difficulty obtaining sources from Samsung. No such problem on the Nexus, and CyanogenMod is as stable as stock and you get the extra features to boot.
ALL of the roms for the Nexus 4 are fast because the phone is fast. I doubt anyone could tell the difference without running benchmarks so you should really just try a few and make a choice based on which feature set you like.
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You sir are correct. CM10 on Nexus 4 is the best combination of lightweight and customisable so far that I've seen.
This is borderline a "which is the best ROM" thread and we all know how those turn out. Every ROM I've ever seen claims to be "light and fast" either directly or indirectly..
To the OP.. There are piles and piles of people making ROMs and kernels for this phone. It's one of the most active development communites I've seen in ages. Take advantage of it! No one can pick one for you.. Drop by the development forums, read, read, then read some more.. Pick 5 ROMs that sound up your alley and give them a try.. I'd suggest a ROM a week until you find one you are satisfied with.
Goodluck and enjoy your Nexus!
Best part about coming to a Nexus forum is being confused about what ROM to flash. Always so many great ones to choose from. lol. :laugh:
So damn true, there are so many ROM's from so many great developers you do really get lost even when going through all of the topics.
So the best bet would be to try it for yourself and flash a few ROM's until you find the one you like.
P.S - this phone is so quick so i doubt really anyone can find a difference in performance between Rom's.
Have fun
^ there is a difference but I feel it lies within the individual kernels. I've been testing kernels for about two weeks and find myself always coming back to trinity 97, even with 4.2.2 its smooth and battery life is insane. I've bounced from ROM to ROM and find xylon the smoothest. Once rasbean goes 4.2.2 I'll give it a shot. There are so many Roms and they are all *good. *everyone has their opinions and all the devs here put a lot of work and time in and all deserve the respect they get. As far as a “light" ROM goes slim bean would be the lightest coming in at under 110mb zip file, then you'll need gapps and they have minimal gapps available at around 25mb.
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I love that everyone posted a different ROM.
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Hence, why these threads are so pointless.
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Howdy.
Took advantage of the latest google offer to get myself a Nexus 4 - my Razr i just had literally no development and a lot of apps wouldn't even run due to x86 architecture! Arggh!
So anyway, mine is arriving soon (hopefully) and I'd like some pointers on what to check out first - Cyanogen is always worth considering of course
I mainly look for a good kernal to save me power but not skimp out on horse power when needed - a good deep sleep/idle function
Also a lightweight rom which is very snappy, I'm sure I'll find some roms to love based on the sheer amount of development on this section! Send your suggestions in and I'll be sure to check them out! :good::good::good:
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Howdy.
Took advantage of the latest google offer to get myself a Nexus 4 - my Razr i just had literally no development and a lot of apps wouldn't even run due to x86 architecture! Arggh!
So anyway, mine is arriving soon (hopefully) and I'd like some pointers on what to check out first - Cyanogen is always worth considering of course
I mainly look for a good kernal to save me power but not skimp out on horse power when needed - a good deep sleep/idle function
Also a lightweight rom which is very snappy, I'm sure I'll find some roms to love based on the sheer amount of development on this section! Send your suggestions in and I'll be sure to check them out! :good::good::good:
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First, Franco kernel is amazing ! make sure to set governor CPU on "interactive" and GPU on "ondemand".
MBQ_'s Vanir is by far the snappiest i'v experienced (and I have flashed dem roms ).
Me personally, I find Stock + Franco to work the best.
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First, Franco kernel is amazing ! make sure to set governor CPU on "interactive" and GPU on "ondemand".
MBQ_'s Vanir is by far the snappiest i'v experienced (and I have flashed dem roms ).
Me personally, I find Stock + Franco to work the best.
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Awesome I'll make sure to check it out! Obviously each rom is going to be good for different things but having never owned a nexus device I'm usually romming to get rid of bloatware from motorola/HTC etc. so I suppose the advantages are usually additional features for nexus devices
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Awesome I'll make sure to check it out! Obviously each rom is going to be good for different things but having never owned a nexus device I'm usually romming to get rid of bloatware from motorola/HTC etc. so I suppose the advantages are usually additional features for nexus devices
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Exactly Best rom the has a lot of features, while maintaining preformance, stability and battery life is deffinatly Paranoid Android. They do amazing innovation in the Android field. Im flashing latest PA build as we speak.
nathan96 said:
Exactly Best rom the has a lot of features, while maintaining preformance, stability and battery life is deffinatly Paranoid Android. They do amazing innovation in the Android field. Im flashing latest PA build as we speak.
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Sounds great
Put it this way, i went from HTC desire where I could change roms weekly - finally settling on oxygen which was totally stock android and great
Then Razr i - it took 7 months or something to even get jelly bean, 0 roms and now we finally have like two to choose from? They are good in terms of i'm not a developer and i appreciate what they do, but both are riddled with bugs
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Sounds great
Put it this way, i went from HTC desire where I could change roms weekly - finally settling on oxygen which was totally stock android and great
Then Razr i - it took 7 months or something to even get jelly bean, 0 roms and now we finally have like two to choose from? They are good in terms of i'm not a developer and i appreciate what they do, but both are riddled with bugs
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Well, you are going to enjoy the Nexus experience
Wellcome!
Saves me the hassle of creating a thread like this.
So I guess my nexus ( which will hopefully arrive later) will be getting PA.
Do I unlock the bootloader with "fastboot OEM unlock" to flash custom recoveries etc? I come from a HTC phone so forgive if this question sounds stupid to you
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Saves me the hassle of creating a thread like this.
So I guess my nexus ( which will hopefully arrive later) will be getting PA.
Do I unlock the bootloader with "fastboot OEM unlock" to flash custom recoveries etc? I come from a HTC phone so forgive if this question sounds stupid to you
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Glad it can be of help - i dont want to take away from other developers of roms, but a starting place is always handy especially considering the sheer amount of development this phone has!
Anyway, i'll be following this guide when I get mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGZuxeTvWhY
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n0In32vjxIg
I've never really liked PA because of the different modes (phone, phablet, tablet, etc) would make if hard to modify everything easily for me (but thats cause i dont like phablet or tablet modes, prefer stock phone style)... Im using crDroid and it runs great with purified kernel. Ive tried Vanir and that one also was pretty good
You should do what i did, flash a few and test them out. They all have different variations of features...
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I've never really liked PA because of the different modes (phone, phablet, tablet, etc) would make if hard to modify everything easily for me (but thats cause i dont like phablet or tablet modes, prefer stock phone style)... Im using crDroid and it runs great with purified kernel. Ive tried Vanir and that one also was pretty good
You should do what i did, flash a few and test them out. They all have different variations of features...
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Yeh I'm looking for a shortlist of the best of the best really
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Yeh I'm looking for a shortlist of the best of the best really
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And you have them... PA, crDroid, and Vanir to start...
Welcome!
I love customizing everything, so from the beginning I was on AOKP. Loved it but i think it was a little heavier than necessary..
after that I used Xylon - ( now Uxylon) which was awesome, smooth and fast, plenty of features.. but its still 4.2.2, so I had to leave it behind eventually.
Currently I'm on Slim Rom Beta, 4.3 and I'm loving it. So give it a try!
Rocking Purity & AK kernel today and loving it
Most of the roms are good in their own way...
if you want speed or customization...
Slimbean is great and of course psx
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You can also check a thread in general about a poll on which rom people are using. i mean, just based from that, you can have the number of nexus 4 users, what the best rom in common people use (you wouldn't know your best if you hadn't tried the others right?) and just a few mods also you can use that will give you what you want. Just have fun in the mako forum and all the best mate :good:
Rasbeanjelly and PSX are great if you are looking for a pure and latest AOSP experience.
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Vanir, PSX, Rasbean
neo kernel, faux kernel, Hells core, AK JSS
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Got the phone, unlocked, flashed latest pa and xposed. I'm very satisfied so far. My HTC one s didn't come close to this at all.
Now I have 2 questions. What's this JSS and JWW all about?
And can anyone recommend a kernel for PA?
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