Just noticed when outside (It's winter here) if I am using the camera the lens fogs on the inside. However if I am not using the camera it stays fog free!.
Anyone know what this could be?
EDIT: Could the auto focus be causing some sort of air to move between the camera and the glass? Causing the difference in temp to fog up? Or maybe the heat inside the phone when the camera is on vs the cold winter weather is causing it.
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Amrut223 said:
Just noticed when outside (It's winter here) if I am using the camera the lens fogs on the inside. However if I am not using the camera it stays fog free!.
Anyone know what this could be?
EDIT: Could the auto focus be causing some sort of air to move between the camera and the glass? Causing the difference in temp to fog up? Or maybe the heat inside the phone when the camera is on vs the cold winter weather is causing it.
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Does anyone have this issue. Seems like the backside of the camera glass fogs up and makes all photos blurry.
Amrut223 said:
Just noticed when outside (It's winter here) if I am using the camera the lens fogs on the inside. However if I am not using the camera it stays fog free!.
Anyone know what this could be?
EDIT: Could the auto focus be causing some sort of air to move between the camera and the glass? Causing the difference in temp to fog up? Or maybe the heat inside the phone when the camera is on vs the cold winter weather is causing it.
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Hi, moisture from the warmer air inside the lens is condensing against the cold glass to cause the 'fog'. I am not sure how to prevent this though, in very cold weather.
MacHackz said:
Hi, moisture from the warmer air inside the lens is condensing against the cold glass to cause the 'fog'. I am not sure how to prevent this though, in very cold weather.
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Yeah the thing is I have an S2,S3 and S4 in the house and non of them do the same. This only happens when the camera is in use. Faulty?
Amrut223 said:
Yeah the thing is I have an S2,S3 and S4 in the house and non of them do the same. This only happens when the camera is in use. Faulty?
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Yeah I'd say it's faulty
Could it be because the Galaxy models have a plastic lens cover where the HTC One is glass?
Amrut223 said:
Could it be because the Galaxy models have a plastic lens cover where the HTC One is glass?
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Good point, that would be the issue because plastic doesn't get as cold as glass. Still not good though, doesn't solve the issue.
Could you test yours. Open the freezer with the camera on and let some of the cool air pass over the lens (not for long maybe 10 seconds) Do not stick it in the freezer . Does the lens fog?
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Could you test yours. Open the freezer with the camera on and let some of the cool air pass over the lens (not for long maybe 10 seconds) Do not stick it in the freezer . Does the lens fog?
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It didn't fog, and I've put phones in the freezer before to combat thermal throttling on benchmarks ;D
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Hi, moisture from the warmer air inside the lens is condensing against the cold glass to cause the 'fog'. I am not sure how to prevent this though, in very cold weather.
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It didn't fog, and I've put phones in the freezer before to combat thermal throttling on benchmarks ;D
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Did you make sure to have the camera app open. For me I am recording video for it to fog up. Try while recording video and report back
Cheers.
Confirmed fogginess in cold temps, design flaw?
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Confirmed fogginess in cold temps, design flaw?
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Would you expect the cover to come with a little screen wiper or perhaps an integrated heater?
BenPope said:
Would you expect the cover to come with a little screen wiper or perhaps an integrated heater?
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Possibly, I was more thinking it should be plastic not glass. Would surely be cheaper than integrating a 'wiper' into the design? Maybe a heater direct from the CPU would work.
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Would you expect the cover to come with a little screen wiper or perhaps an integrated heater?
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Fog inside the Camera = condensation. Pretty sure camera optics don't like that.
Hi,
Same problem here.
Yesterday I brought my new HTC One to a restaurant to test the camera. When I launch the camera app and snapped one or two pictures I found it looked as if there was some white mist in front of the object. I first thought it was some auto exposure issue and didn't take it seriously. But then the same "mist" appeared when I attempted to take some more pictures. And now the screen becomes whiter and whiter! I realized something wrong, so I looked at the back of the phone and observed some white fog on the camera cover. I tried to wipe it off but didn't work - the fog is INSIDE the camera cover!
It's around 20-23°C in the restaurant. And I suspect this is caused by the heat produced by the camera module inside the phone.
When the fog appears, you can do nothing. The fog won't go away unless you quit the camera app (theoretically it may go away when the environment gets warmer, or the humidity suddenly decreases).
But I am still confused -
1) This didn't happen to my previous phones. OK I didn't use a lot of smartphones, but I didn't experience this issue when I was using my HTC Desire and Galaxy Nexus.
2) Shouldn't there be some measure taken in the manufacturing process to prevent this from happening? For example -- take a wild guess -- shouldn't there be some anti-fog coating that can be applied to the cover?
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hello.
I've noticed that in all my pictures (and in the camera application) I have a black dot on the low right corner (photo attached).
Did any of you had similar problems? I think something is wrong with the camera.
I've also recently got a splodge from the images from my camera...though mine looks like a glass chip...
This may seem like a silly question, but have you removed the battery cover and taken a picture to see if it's a blemish on the cover? Also, if it's still there with the cover removed, try cleaning the actual lense (delicately) and see how it looks. It's worth a shot.
yes, i've tried those. I think is something with the sensor, or under the interior lens.
after further inspection, i can see a spot on the interior lens... but i can't clean it. I think it's a scratch (might have dropped it once).
can I do something to change/clean this lens?
soxvirus said:
after further inspection, i can see a spot on the interior lens... but i can't clean it. I think it's a scratch (might have dropped it once).
can I do something to change/clean this lens?
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Must be a big scratch for the spot to appear that large in the images...
I wonder if vaseline would help. I use a bit of the stuff for some scratches on my PC's LCD monitor. Works wonders. Not sure if it'll work with lens scratches though...
ohyeahar said:
Must be a big scratch for the spot to appear that large in the images...
I wonder if vaseline would help. I use a bit of the stuff for some scratches on my PC's LCD monitor. Works wonders. Not sure if it'll work with lens scratches though...
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Considering the actual size of the lens, and the fact that its seems to be on the lens itself, I don't think it would take much to cause a dot of that size.
Mine also appears to be internal. Looks like a rather large dust particle is resting on the lens under the glass. Though oddly, the focus on the splodge always appears the same, regardless of the depth of focus in the shot...
Been itching for an upgrade, seems my phone realises this....
Hi,
I would like to know if anyone of you faced such a issue and if yes then is it a hardware issue or a software issue? I have got this since last week. There are two dents at the right side corner(portrait)/ top left corner (landscape) on every pic. I'm worried about this. any help?
idroid2324 said:
Hi,
I would like to know if anyone of you faced such a issue and if yes then is it a hardware issue or a software issue? I have got this since last week. There are two dents at the right side corner(portrait)/ top left corner (landscape) on every pic. I'm worried about this. any help?
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It's hardware. Most likely dirt on Glass lens cover, lens itself or sensor...
rootSU said:
It's hardware. Most likely dirt on Glass lens cover, lens itself or sensor...
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lens seems to be clean. could sensor issue.
idroid2324 said:
lens seems to be clean. could sensor issue.
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I would be surprised. Sensor dirt does not usually look that "clean". It's more of a shadow. This might be dirt on the inside of the lens (i.e. the side that you can't get to by wiping the back of the phone).
ETA: Note, my experience is with DSLRs. The much shorter lens-to-sensor distance could nullify my statement. Upon closer inspection this looks like some sort of fuzz (thread or something), again likely inside of the camera assembly whether it's on the lens or on the sensor.
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lens seems to be clean. could sensor issue.
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You can't really see the lens as it's inside the phone behind the lens cover.
idroid2324 said:
Hi,
I would like to know if anyone of you faced such a issue and if yes then is it a hardware issue or a software issue? I have got this since last week. There are two dents at the right side corner(portrait)/ top left corner (landscape) on every pic. I'm worried about this. any help?
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I think there is little bit dust particles on lens (Inside the camera glass)
I had he same issue, except mine was a black dot. There was 0 dust on the lens and I thoroughly cleaned it and the issue persisted. I even flashed back to stock which didn't fix it. This was on my very first Nexus 6 that was made in Oct 14 so I called Moto and got a RMA replacement.
Well I'll have to take it to service centre. Crap
Today i had a stupid issue, while using the camera, main sensor created fog under the lens.
I used a hair dryer to clear it but as soon as i used the camera, lens got foggy again...
Both GCam and nokia cam used, fog kept re-appearing in the lens.
I left the camera to cool down, used the hair dryer again, cleared and reinstalled apps, restarted the phone, seems to be fine now....
Stupid question: Is there a possibility one can kill the camera sensor with a wrong app??? I was currently using GCam Unix 4.0
Tomar777 said:
Today i had a stupid issue, while using the camera, main sensor created fog under the lens.
I used a hair dryer to clear it but as soon as i used the camera, lens got foggy again...
Both GCam and nokia cam used, fog kept re-appearing in the lens.
I left the camera to cool down, used the hair dryer again, cleared and reinstalled apps, restarted the phone, seems to be fine now....
Stupid question: Is there a possibility one can kill the camera sensor with a wrong app??? I was currently using GCam Unix 4.0
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Wtf lol
1st backrider & 2nd urnyx05. The others are latest back rider. Looking at these and looking at specifically picture 1st & last picture it seems as though there's a effect happening with seems apparent in higher lighting shots. Seems foggy/cloudy on certain parts of the picture. Is this what u was dealing with? Last picture was shot before I noticed the fog
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1st backrider & 2nd urnyx05. The others are latest back rider. Looking at these and looking at specifically picture 1st & last picture it seems as though there's a effect happening with seems apparent in higher lighting shots. Seems foggy/cloudy on certain parts of the picture. Is this what u was dealing with? Last picture was shot before I noticed the fog
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Sorry 3rd & 4th picture are what I mean. 3rd took 5 mins ago (after I've noticed foggy affect) and 4th took earlier this morning before noticing fog. Both backrider & urnyx05 picking this up so not port depending much be hardware
yep... now check your upper lens, glass must have gathered some steam...
Tomar777 said:
yep... now check your upper lens, glass must have gathered some steam...
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It's really bad actually. Will look at lense now
Can't make out no mist or anything on lense. I'll try your way out see if I can fix it. Maybe I'll have to take screenshots out and put it in my old 7+ lol
Fixed it! Before & after with backrider latest. Thank F for that
i returned to back.rider 2.6A and im not having any more problems too.
Hi guys.
I have a Xiaomi Mi5 64GB.
Lens shield has separated from frame a long time ago.
after that, I have seen many black spots. you can see the image.
I have tried so much that clean the spot but I couldn't.
What should I do?
Thanks.
Armin.Android said:
Hi guys.
I have a Xiaomi Mi5 64GB.
Lens shield has separated from frame a long time ago.
after that, I have seen many black spots. you can see the image.
I have tried so much that clean the spot but I couldn't.
What should I do?
Thanks.
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I have same situation with Xperia devices. It must replace camera module. But... I'm doing with crazy metod, I'm hit my phone to the wall, hit in area near camera, use case must or frame will scratch. Hit until black spot disappear.
Black spot like your pict because lens by lens dirty cause small dust, can't clean without air high pressure.
Hope its work. Dont hit to strong, just until we hear "click2" in camera module. Or we can hit to mousepad in table
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I have same situation with Xperia devices. It must replace camera module. But... I'm doing with crazy metod, I'm hit my phone to the wall, hit in area near camera, use case must or frame will scratch. Hit until black spot disappear.
Black spot like your pict because lens by lens dirty cause small dust, can't clean without air high pressure.
Hope its work. Dont hit to strong, just until we hear "click2" in camera module. Or we can hit to mousepad in table
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I prefer to try this way as last chance
Where does this dust? inside lens or outside?
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I prefer to try this way as last chance
Where does this dust? inside lens or outside?
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Inside. If outside your camera only blur/not sharp picture
Hi techies,
My pixel 4XL has recently had a water accident, everything works perfectly now except the rear camera is cloudy and cant focus properly. I opened the phone and wiped the lens with a good amount of robbing alcohol, its even worse now. So what should i do? Do i have to open the entire camera module and wash the tiny lenses and the sensor or what? I really wanna repair it myself instead of buying a new sensor because it takes so long for me to arrive.
Thank you,
Pixel 4 XL is IP68 water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins).
Has it been opened before?
If you used isopropyl alcohol, then there should be no problem, but it should be dried for a long time after such an operation.
Well, I am not an expert on cameras but the cause of your blurry photos may be caused by:
-The motor of the camera don't work, so the lens can't move and as a consequence don't focus
-there is water inside the lens or in the sensor (which can't be seen unless the camera is disassembled.
If you have water inside, as it manage to get in it may be a way for get it out. I would suggest you to take the camera module and heat it up with a hairdryer so water can evaporate and get out. But don't heat it up too much do, it could damage the sensor.
However as you said you used alcohol, it leaves some residues which if is the case, with this method it won't be fixed.
If this doesn't help you would then I think you would need to disassemble the camera. Iwill leave a link to a video off a guy who disassemble an Iphone camera. It isn't the same, but it's similar Here
Also are you sure there isn't any software related causes?
Good luck
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Well, I am not an expert on cameras but the cause of your blurry photos may be caused by:
-The motor of the camera don't work, so the lens can't move and as a consequence don't focus
-there is water inside the lens or in the sensor (which can't be seen unless the camera is disassembled.
If you have water inside, as it manage to get in it may be a way for get it out. I would suggest you to take the camera module and heat it up with a hairdryer so water can evaporate and get out. But don't heat it up too much do, it could damage the sensor.
However as you said you used alcohol, it leaves some residues which if is the case, with this method it won't be fixed.
If this doesn't help you would then I think you would need to disassemble the camera. Iwill leave a link to a video off a guy who disassemble an Iphone camera. It isn't the same, but it's similar Here
Also are you sure there isn't any software related causes?
Good luck
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Thank you for the reply,
I'm sure the problem is the water+dirt or residue inside. Ik the water has been gone since then and alcohol is evaporated but there must be some dirt sitting in there. This phone has never had a force to get some component cracked inside.
As for the software thing, i'd say i dont think so, what software related issue it might be? Since the front facing cam works just fine, the cache has been deleted, i even downloaded open camera to take more control over the sensor manually. Its just foggy. Like some filter has been applied to it.
ze7zez said:
Pixel 4 XL is IP68 water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins).
Has it been opened before?
If you used isopropyl alcohol, then there should be no problem, but it should be dried for a long time after such an operation.
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Idk if it was, since i bought it in mint condition second handed. The alcohol i used was 96% Ethanol, not the same as the isopropyl, but i dont think of a major difference, but probably some dust has gone there underneath the lens.
Pixel4life said:
Idk if it was, since i bought it in mint condition second handed. The alcohol i used was 96% Ethanol, not the same as the isopropyl, but i dont think of a major difference, but probably some dust has gone there underneath the lens.
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Do not use ethanol for electronics, because you can dissolve many components. Besides, ethanol contains water, which harms electronics. That's why isopropyl alcohol is used, because it has much lower dissolving properties, and if it is pure (99.99%) it absorbs water and causes it to evaporate faster from the cleaned items.
Show the picture you take with your camera.
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Do not use ethanol for electronics, because you can dissolve many components. Besides, ethanol contains water, which harms electronics. That's why isopropyl alcohol is used, because it has much lower dissolving properties, and if it is pure (99.99%) it absorbs water and causes it to evaporate faster from the cleaned items.
Show the picture you take with your camera.
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I have marked the centric area that diffuses the light. It could be a dried-up blob of whatever you washed the lens with. The liquid could easily penetrate the camera and get under the lens or even onto the matrix if the seals were not tight.
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I have marked the centric area that diffuses the light. It could be a dried-up blob of whatever you washed the lens with. The liquid could easily penetrate the camera and get under the lens or even onto the matrix if the seals were not tight.
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Yes most probably that's the case. So wha's your suggestion for me? Tear the lens down, wash the components inside it with soap and water, dry it out and reassemble? Or what to do? Im kinda disappointed now. Been shaking and tapping the lens since yesterday with no success lol.
If you still want to use this model, I advise you to replace the camera with a new one, or recovered, so that they are original.
I do not ignore your self-denial and other talents, but I think that you will not fix the camera yourself.
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If you still want to use this model, I advise you to replace the camera with a new one, or recovered, so that they are original.
I do not ignore your self-denial and other talents, but I think that you will not fix the camera yourself.
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Ok then i have to order a camera lens then, are those sub 10 buck lenses from Aliexpress oem parts? The reviews are excellent but the prices are syspicious. Plus, i almost forgot to mention something. There werw two sponge/rubber curcles (whatever the material) arround the camera lenses, which locate between the cameras and the outer glass. (i marked them) when cleaning, they chopped off. Any chances this be a reason the light doesnt diffuse the right way?
It is for this purpose that the cover glasses are blackened or coated with other coatings so that there is no side light. Gaskets also serve this purpose. The tube of cameras and scopes has been made of blackened material since the oldest times.
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It is for this purpose that the cover glasses are blackened or coated with other coatings so that there is no side light. Gaskets also serve this purpose. The tube of cameras and scopes has been made of blackened material since the oldest times.
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So does it affect picture quality?
Plus, I managed to diassemble the camera module, soaked it in alcohol and dried it up, its even more blury now lol