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Thanks for the review, it looks like a decent camera under the more extreme tests you performed. I say this as most would use the cam for hangouts or Skype only.
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Having used it for some video chat, this camera is barely even suitable for that. Unusable indoors under low light conditions.
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I can understand the image quality suffering in doors with low lighting, but why would the frame rate drop so much? That seems like a glitch/software issue.
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I can understand the image quality suffering in doors with low lighting, but why would the frame rate drop so much? That seems like a glitch/software issue.
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I agree. It was not what I had anticipated. I'm pretty fluent in cameras and photography, and there isn't really any reason for the camera hardware to do this, it's obviously software related. I plan on trying other apps to get a better handle on things.
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Please keep us posted when your app on the Play store is updated for the Nexus 7.
There is no camera app on my nexus 7. How do I click pics n take videos ?
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There is no camera app on my nexus 7. How do I click pics n take videos ?
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Search for Camera Launcher in the Play Store.
Its pretty good for what it is
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I'd agree that the camera is good for what it is. It's definitely only viable for things along the lines of skype and google hangouts. It seems to have an issue with autofocusing as well but that could be software.
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Please keep us posted when your app on the Play store is updated for the Nexus 7.
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My REVTV app is fully capable on the Nexus 7.
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I agree. It was not what I had anticipated. I'm pretty fluent in cameras and photography, and there isn't really any reason for the camera hardware to do this, it's obviously software related. I plan on trying other apps to get a better handle on things.
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Could it be using some sort of frame-averaging algorithm in an attempt to reduce noise? Like take (30/7=4.29) four frames and average the noise out giving one good frame per four samples?
Thanks reverendkjr
Quality looks quite good.
I have Tango video call app installed on the Nexus 7 and on my Galaxy Note - comparing them side by side, looking at my face, there is more sharpness and detail from the Nexus 7 video (whether I'm using WiFi or 3G on Note), and I had always thought the Galaxy Note did quite well with its front-facing camera (certainly is better than the iPad 3!).
So I think Google has done a good job with this front camera - 1.3 MP vs. the Galaxy Note 1.9 MP.
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Thanks reverendkjr
Quality looks quite good.
I have Tango video call app installed on the Nexus 7 and on my Galaxy Note - comparing them side by side, looking at my face, there is more sharpness and detail from the Nexus 7 video (whether I'm using WiFi or 3G on Note), and I had always thought the Galaxy Note did quite well with its front-facing camera (certainly is better than the iPad 3!).
So I think Google has done a good job with this front camera - 1.3 MP vs. the Galaxy Note 1.9 MP.
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I plan on taking a look at Tango, Skype, etc on this device in a later video. I had no idea that the Galaxy Note camera was 1.9MP. What an odd size.
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Search for Camera Launcher in the Play Store.
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Thanks, found the modaco camera launcher !
BTW on Skype the video quality is quite bad with a quality setting of high. On the same wifi connection, my galaxy nexus n laptop work fine.
Thanks great video!
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Thanks, found the modaco camera launcher !
BTW on Skype the video quality is quite bad with a quality setting of high. On the same wifi connection, my galaxy nexus n laptop work fine.
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I just did a test Skype video chat with a co-worker.
Ewww.... Looks terrible.
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I just did a test Skype video chat with a co-worker.
Ewww.... Looks terrible.
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exactly my point - not sure if this is a skype issue or a nexus 7 issue! i thought i could use this to skype when i am at airports, etc as i travel a lot. Unfortunately no, i am back to using my huge laptop or the tiny screen of galaxy nexus!
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exactly my point - not sure if this is a skype issue or a nexus 7 issue! i thought i could use this to skype when i am at airports, etc as i travel a lot. Unfortunately no, i am back to using my huge laptop or the tiny screen of galaxy nexus!
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I'm getting similar results when using skype on different wifi networks. I think it may be a camera driver issue. Not sure. I haven't tried it with Tango or any other app just yet.
^^ has anyone tried with google hangouts or gtalk video or something? I am sure google tested this on atleast their own video services before launching the product. Skype does not officially support nexus 7 yet so it could be just a skype issue
Hi all I just received the OTA for Android 4.4.2 so have put together a before and after comparing 4.4 to 4.4.2 for the Nexus 5 camera. Includes some full crop images and video capture as well as the all important autofocus test.
Very pleased with the results looks like Google have made big improvements all round to the camera.
You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Thx for the vid man!
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You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Because Google haven't made improvements, they've ballsed it up since 4.4!
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Maybe for you.. camcorder exposure is fine for me.
Stock 4.4.2 odexed
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Thx for the vid man!
Why do you put a question mark at the end of a statement you clearly don't look for an answer to?
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because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
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You've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light?
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I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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because it's what we call a rhetorical question....
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No it's not. A rhetorical question is still a form of question, "you've obviously not tried the camcorder in dim light" however is not, so the use of question mark is inappropriate? (See what I did there? <-- rhetorical question.)
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The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
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Is that with the 4.4.2 or 4.4.1 update installed?
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I went 4.4->4.4.1->4.4.2
When I recorded that video, I used 4.4.1.
I tested later and had the same behavior in 4.4.2.
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I've tried it in dim light and find the noise to be ok, better than the S4 not as good as HTC One (to be expected)
ISO is ramping more aggressively in still images IMO but not a deal breaker, looks better than the S4 anyway.
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I'm starting to think that we're all seeing the same thing and just coming up with different interpretations due to subjective differences. There's no other reason that everyone would be having such wildly different results using the same software and hardware.
All I know is that video recording on my phone in low light is MUCH, MUCH darker than it was on either 4.4 or 4.4.1. I wish I had taken some screenies before updating to show you.
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The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
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Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
for anyone wondering about the dimmer picture in the video ,
i made a little example here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3W...it?usp=sharing
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im not complaining , just showing what people are saying
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Are the results with 4.4 much better? This has really got to be on the edge of what the sensor can do in video so the results don't surprise me.
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Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwFhXib0pZk
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Uhh, actually I remember I have another low light recording that I did on 4.4 when I was in a restaurant. Very low ambient lighting. The test was more to see the image stabilization during recording, but the lighting was comparable to the bar.
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Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
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Those two videos have completely different lighting. If you took a light meter into those two places (restaurant vs bar) you'll find that the bar is really much darker.
I'm not saying that 4.4.1/2 isn't worse - just that these two videos don't make a good comparison.
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What's funny is that I had spotlighting right above my head (direct, LED bright lighting) IN the bar at the table I was sitting at, which would make it look like stage lighting.
But it looks as if it's horrendously dark in there and all of the ambient LED's look like christmas lights thanks to the recording and the contrast of light sources. Trust me when I say it was a lot brighter in the bar than the video would lead you to believe.
My 4.4.2 pictures.
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xybur said:
The screen is really, really dark in dim light. And the video itself is also really dark.
Case and point, i went to a bar with my girlfriend to eat something. I decided to record something using the camcorder, and well. I'll let the results speak for themselves. It looked like the lights were out in the place. I wish I had thought to take pictures, because it certainly wasn't as dark as the video would lead you to believe.
https://plus.google.com/+HectorCaceres/posts/WGZ3kZHNMj6
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That looks exactly like I would expect a video from a dimly lit bar to look.
I didn't think to take any photos at the time, but the difference between the photo viewfinder mode and the camcorder mode was incredibly noticeable, very similar to the screen caps of the viewfinders posted in the 4.4.2 first thoughts thread.
edit: Here is the thread if you somehow missed it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562886
I've read a report saying the front facing camera lags behind, can somebody confirm this?!
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Jamolah said:
I've read a report saying the front facing camera lags behind, can somebody confirm this?!
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Yes, its happening to me too, but not happen every time.
Have you determined what conditions cause this to happen?
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Not yet, probably is related to the type of lighting environment.
Hey man!! I bought this phone today and I'm very disappointed because the front camera is lagging as ****! Dammit!!
I do not pretend to return it to Motorola so I'll assume that this will be fixes as soon as they send an update.
Overall the phone is very good, nothing special (if you had the previous moto x you don't HAVE to buy the new one)
nickobarsotti said:
Hey man!! I bought this phone today and I'm very disappointed because the front camera is lagging as ****! Dammit!!
I do not pretend to return it to Motorola so I'll assume that this will be fixes as soon as they send an update.
Overall the phone is very good, nothing special (if you had the previous moto x you don't HAVE to buy the new one)
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I think I asked you in another thread, but I'll post it here: have you tried the Google Camera? it could be a camera app issue
edit: if you're not in a well lit area, the front camera can lag. that's what I read from a user with the same problem. he went into a store with a lot of lights and it worked fine
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I think I asked you in another thread, but I'll post it here: have you tried the Google Camera? it could be a camera app issue
edit: if you're not in a well lit area, the front camera can lag. that's what I read from a user with the same problem. he went into a store with a lot of lights and it worked fine
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That is correct I posted on that other topic too. So, even in a lighter place the camera still sucks. That is very very sad. I'm not a selfie addicted but the front camera is a very useful resource
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That is correct I posted on that other topic too. So, even in a lighter place the camera still sucks. That is very very sad. I'm not a selfie addicted but the front camera is a very useful resource
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When I get mine, I'll test it. Maybe the U.S. version would be fixed. I'm only speculating
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I never use the front camera unless I'm using it as a mirror. I just took a bunch of selfies in a dark room and noticed no lag. Did the same thing with my 2013 and my N5, which was the slower of the three.
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Pure version is lag as well. I never do a selfie so I don't care.
No lag. On the front camera.
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Yeah definitely lags significantly
there is a lot of lag for the FFC. but the lag disappears when you hit the record button if you want video. idk what the heck is happening lol. it isn't a deal breaker
Definitely lags.... Pure edition
Definitely have lag here too. Didn't earlier in the day in sunlight.
No noticeable lag on my front-facing camera.
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No noticeable lag on my front-facing camera.
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Use it in low light.
It is definitely in low light. I can stick it under my table, observe the lag, and then point it at my properly-lighted face and not have an issue.
Should be something easily fixed with an update, pretty weird though.
Mad lag
Laggin like a motha inside (lower light) worked well outside
Noticed when it doesn't try to correct for the lighting the lag is gone. Mine was lagging once and adjusted back to normal balance and the lag disappeared until it tried to light up my face a bit.
I turned off auto HDR, and I still have to hold the camera steady for like a second after capturing a shot or else it will be blurry. Is there any way to enable a faster shutter speed?
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HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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says he has HDR off. Still experiencing
fatasian said:
HDR by definition is taking at least 3 individual photos to capture and combine. This is the delay you are experiencing. IMHO it should only be used for static images. Anything with movement is not a good application for HDR. source, I'm a photographer.
In terms of manual controls, I've not found any for the turbo cam app. Boo.
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Like I said, HDR is off. Source: I'm also a photographer.
Hoping this is a bug that gets fixed. The 2014 x is quite a bit faster.
I'm sort of guessing/hoping that moto is putting energy into the new camera stuff for L rather than optimizing for kitkat.
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
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coreywallen said:
Have you tried changing the aspect ratio? Switching to ART runtime? Trying a different camera app?
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I haven't done art, but ive done the others.
the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
Agreed...For me it was too much as this is my main camera when out and about with my toddler. My S5 still takes better picture for now, so had to return the Turbo..>Will definitely keep an eye on updates etc, because other than that, this phone is beautiful...
Really hoping this gets fixed soon as well. The camera is pretty much worthless as is because of the shutter lag. I tried other camera apps from the market as well and the issue persists.
In fairness I think the N5 camera was worse at release... Source: Someone that knows next to nothing about photography and has low needs and expectations but isn't satisfied with the offering here.
Have you tried using the Google camera app, from the Play Store? I've heard that it has more features and performs better than Moto's camera app.
The camera has the ability to take photos without the shutter delay. This is noticeable when you click and hold to take multi photos. Only the first image has a delay and the rest are pretty fast. Hopefully, a software update will solve the single/first photo issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/camera-touch-hold-multi-photo-option-t2965656
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
Kayak83 said:
I tried the google camera app from the play store and the problem persists. Also tried every setting in the app on/off. How does a phone of this caliber have shutter lag?
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If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2884035
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If you're trying all the settings, try the advanced settings on the moto camera too and report back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2884035
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Not seeing anything that helps shutter speed. Tried a few settings and searched the thread but no improvements to shutter speed/lag anywhere to be found. Hopefully a Lollipop update will "fix."
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
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I haven't done art, but ive done the others.
the camera is basically useless indoors unless your subject is stationary.
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Don't do ART. That has nothing to do with anything here.
timofcourse said:
Right there with you. Its so much worse than my old GS3. My number one complaint with an otherwise fantastic phone.
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Last year's X and Droids had similar issues, from slowness to colors. They were fixed in future updates.
I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.
I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
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I'm not seeing this problem. Very responsive for me.
I did take the OTA today though.. I didn't see a changelog, but figured it was just for Advanced LTE Calling..
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There was no OTA update today.
I've seen some couple of videos where there is a clear stuttering when recording 4K videos. I'm also facing the same on my device. No problem with 1080p though. Please let me know how many of you are facing this issue?
@rootSU , @simms22 are you guys facing this issue? Please do let me know
I don't record videos to be honest
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I've seen some couple of videos where there is a clear stuttering when recording 4K videos. I'm also facing the same on my device. No problem with 1080p though. Please let me know how many of you are facing this issue?
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I noticed it was stuttering on my screen during a concert, but when I went back and watched the video the next day, there was none.
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I don't record videos to be honest
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Can you please check once?
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I noticed it was stuttering on my screen during a concert, but when I went back and watched the video the next day, there was none.
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Here it's happening for both of the time. While recording and while playing
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Here it's happening for both of the time. While recording and while playing
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Sure. Please send me a video to compare against
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I can't see any stutter on mine.
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Sure. Please send me a video to compare against
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I can't see any stutter on mine.
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Just uploaded a video to my youtube channel. Don't know why 4K option is not coming. Specially focus on 3-6 seconds. You can see the stuttering. Sometimes it's too high
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CsWyBZSfXM
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Just uploaded a video to my youtube channel. Don't know why 4K option is not coming. Specially focus on 3-6 seconds. You can see the stuttering. Sometimes it's too high
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CsWyBZSfXM
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I can hardly notice that
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I can hardly notice that
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Play again, it's like a game is running at 30 FPS and missed a frame
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I can hardly notice that
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ok uploading another. please lower the volume as it's bit noisy It'll take a bit long to be uploaded due to my slow internet. Please bear with it
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Play again, it's like a game is running at 30 FPS and missed a frame
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Oh I did see it. I can just hardly notice it. Maybe I'm too used to it being a Netflix subscriber
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Oh I did see it. I can just hardly notice it. Maybe I'm too used to it being a Netflix subscriber
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Here you go This video is equipped with many stutters. Please mute the video cause it's equipped with annoying sounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYPIt84YQAI
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Here you go This video is equipped with many stutters. Please mute the video cause it's equipped with annoying sounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYPIt84YQAI
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Yes I see it more now.
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Yes I see it more now.
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It's really annoying I hope google will fix it soon
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It's really annoying I hope google will fix it soon
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Here's mine. I don't think there is any stutter. For some reason YouTube seems to have converted to 360p but it was definitely 4k
Nexus 6 4k stutter test: http://youtu.be/VSlp2kOxX2E
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Here's mine. I don't think there is any stutter. For some reason YouTube seems to have converted to 360p but it was definitely 4k
Nexus 6 4k stutter test: http://youtu.be/VSlp2kOxX2E
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The video is quiet smooth except one place where I can see framedrop BTW are you on complete stock? I mean without root, custom ROM and custom kernel?
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The video is quiet smooth except one place where I can see framedrop BTW are you on complete stock? I mean without root, custom ROM and custom kernel?
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Custom everything.
Where is the framedrop?
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Custom everything.
Where is the framedrop?
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may be on 14-16 sec. btw that's the thing. I'm on full stock even without root I'm a long time samsung user,thought that stock will be great but with these kind of bugs it sucks actually PA is not releasing beta version and google is not releasing fix and I'm screwed BTW the cat is cute 4K option is now there. YouTube takes a bit long to update that
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may be on 14-16 sec. btw that's the thing. I'm on full stock even without root I'm a long time samsung user,thought that stock will be great but with these kind of bugs it sucks actually PA is not releasing beta version and google is not releasing fix and I'm screwed BTW the cat is cute 4K option is now there. YouTube takes a bit long to update that
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I think that's just camera movement due to me. Info t see anything that looks like a framedrop.
Yes he is cute. Had an operation yesterday.