I was looking through the changelog for the CyanogenMod 10.1 2013-06-03 nightly and noticed some interesting commits seemingly meant to enable 802.11ac on supporting devices. I was looking through the documentation for the APQ8064 and apparently there is a combined WiFi-, Bluetooth- and FM-radio module (WCN3680) EDIT: with 802.11ac, designed specifically to be a drop-in replacement for the WCN3660 chip usually found in Snapdragon S4 Pro SoC's. So my question is: is the modem in the Xperia Z capable of 802.11ac speeds when running the 2013-06-03 nightly and connected to a capable network? I have not yet received my phone so I can't try it myself. (it should arrive tomorrow! )
Really? Nobody is interested in this?
Rekoil said:
I was looking through the changelog for the CyanogenMod 10.1 2013-06-03 nightly and noticed some interesting commits seemingly meant to enable 802.11ac on supporting devices. I was looking through the documentation for the APQ8064 and apparently there is a combined WiFi-, Bluetooth- and FM-radio module (WCN3680) designed specifically to be a drop-in replacement for the WCN3660 chip usually found in Snapdragon S4 Pro SoC's. So my question is: is the modem in the Xperia Z capable of 802.11ac speeds when running the 2013-06-03 nightly and connected to a capable network? I have not yet received my phone so I can't try it myself. (it should arrive tomorrow! )
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I agree, sources from around the internet confirm that this chip IS 802.11ac single stream up to 433Mbps.... i dont have an .ac router to try it on tho!
Urbanos said:
I agree, sources from around the internet confirm that this chip IS 802.11ac single stream up to 433Mbps.... i dont have an .ac router to try it on tho!
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Do you mean sources that confirm Xperia Z has the WCN3680? Could you link? (I don't have an 802.11ac router either )
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Do you mean sources that confirm Xperia Z has the WCN3680? Could you link? (I don't have an 802.11ac router either )
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the APQ8064 is a SOC - it has the integrated options BT, Wifi etc. i can't seem to find sources that offer the APQ8064 without 802.11ac....
its possibly a package that qualcomm offered as only 802.11N....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5942/...0211ac-solutions-official-wcn3680-and-qca986x
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...hes-80211ac-product-ecosystem-provide-end-end
the WCN3660 is 802.11n
the WCN3680 is 802.11ac..... need to find a bill of materials and see what we got, not sure otherwise how to tell...
aliexpress has the L36h with WCN3660 as replacement parts..... that might be our answer.
sadly it seems that the WCN3680 wasn't available until Q1 2013 - which might also be the other answer. unlikely that Sony was able to get a build/launch that quickly with a brand new chip like that in my opinion. not holding my breath....
Urbanos said:
the APQ8064 is a SOC - it has the integrated options BT, Wifi etc. i can't seem to find sources that offer the APQ8064 without 802.11ac....
its possibly a package that qualcomm offered as only 802.11N....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5942/...0211ac-solutions-official-wcn3680-and-qca986x
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...hes-80211ac-product-ecosystem-provide-end-end
the WCN3660 is 802.11n
the WCN3680 is 802.11ac..... need to find a bill of materials and see what we got, not sure otherwise how to tell...
aliexpress has the L36h with WCN3660 as replacement parts..... that might be our answer.
sadly it seems that the WCN3680 wasn't available until Q1 2013 - which might also be the other answer. unlikely that Sony was able to get a build/launch that quickly with a brand new chip like that in my opinion. not holding my breath....
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Neither, but then again, the WCN3680 chip was designed specifically to be a drop-in, it-just-works, kind of replacement for the WCN3660. I'm not ruling anything out until I have tried it myself.
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Neither, but then again, the WCN3680 chip was designed specifically to be a drop-in, it-just-works, kind of replacement for the WCN3660. I'm not ruling anything out until I have tried it myself.
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Any progress on this? Do we have 802.11ac on the Z??
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Hey guys,
Anyone know if we will ever get wifi direct to function considering this phone was the first wifi direct enabled phone?
It works on SGS2, and its probably one of the most overlooked features.
Here is a demo I found.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCEawDprnOQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Is it possible to port over "settings" from the SGS2?
I'm not a developer so not sure if its a stupid question lol
Yeah, really, I heard it already about one year ago, that the sgs has been certified to get wi-fi direct as the first phone ever, and the first samsung phone. But look, nothing happened since thin. That sucks -.- we should be also allowed to use wifi direct.
Actually, every wi-fi capable device, that is not older than 5 years or a bit less is wi-fi direct compatible, as far as I can remember. :/
That would be awesome, if someone could port this feature from the sgs2 to the sgs1, + and sgslcd.
Is this feature built into ics so we can have it as standard?
Getting this feature to work beats the bluetooth 4 available in phones like the iphone 4s. Its faster and is capable of sending files at that speed to any device that has wifi, theoretically anyway.
The only differences between the T and the TX, as far as I know are:
- TX has a slightly smaller but removable battery
- TX is a bit thinner and the physical buttons are positioned differently
All the rest is identical, hardware-wise. Does that mean I will be able to use Xperia T ROMs on the TX and vice versa?
EDIT: To clarify, I'm referring to global variants only, not the upcoming AT&T version. So LT30p vs LT29i, basically.
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The only differences between the T and the TX, as far as I know are:
- TX has a slightly smaller but removable battery
- TX is a bit thinner and the physical buttons are positioned differently
All the rest is identical, hardware-wise. Does that mean I will be able to use Xperia T ROMs on the TX and vice versa?
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Unlikely.
The HTC flyer and the HTC View are almost the exact same.. literally you could confuse one for the other in some cases.. and they can't swap roms.
The T and TX may be close enough that the roms require minimal effort to port but, that doesn't mean roms are interchangeable.
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Unlikely.
The HTC flyer and the HTC View are almost the exact same.. literally you could confuse one for the other in some cases.. and they can't swap roms.
The T and TX may be close enough that the roms require minimal effort to port but, that doesn't mean roms are interchangeable.
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Not what I wanted to hear but thank you!
Also, I thought the Flyer vs. View were also GSM vs CDMA? Not sure how much more of a difference that makes, but I'm curious.
Not interchangeable most likely, but I can bet many devs would make the few changes to allow the same ROM be applied to either device. I'm thinking of the HTC Desire HD and the Inspire. Most custom ROMs were available for either device. The ROM would simply query the hardware and the changes would apply during boot or get copied to cache.
T and TX are almost exact the same but not identical hardware wise. But i think Custom ROMs will be T and TX compatible.
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T and TX are almost exact the same but not identical hardware wise. But i think Custom ROMs will be T and TX compatible.
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Not identical? Could you elaborate? Sorry if it's a stupid question, but I'm really curious. I'm looking at a side-by-side comparison on GSMArena (I believe they took specs from the white papers) and I'm seeing the same CPU, same GPU, same RAM, same radio bands, etc...
Comparison: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4899&idPhone2=4959
only the tx has removeable battery ... that got nothing to do with roms
I am thinking of buying TX from China, I might try to flash T rom in it since China FW do not have google service framework in it.
Does anyone know if the fw brick it , can I flash back to china fw by using flashtool (locked bootloader) ?
Not the same exact CPU at least not for the AT&T variant as it has LTE and uses the MSM8960 chipset. Xperia TX uses the MSM8260A.
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Not the same exact CPU at least not for the AT&T variant as it has LTE and uses the MSM8960 chipset. Xperia TX uses the MSM8260A.
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Ah yes... I wasn't thinking of the AT&T version at all. I'm only concerned with comparing global variants, where I believe the T and TX both use MSM8960A.
yesyesimanoob said:
Not what I wanted to hear but thank you!
Also, I thought the Flyer vs. View were also GSM vs CDMA? Not sure how much more of a difference that makes, but I'm curious.
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There is
GSM Flyer
Wifi only Flyer
CDMA View.
Yet, there is still differences in the kernel which keep the two devices from being able to swap roms.
I'm not incredibly sure about all of the details but, I know it's caused a number of problems.
The main point I'm trying to get at is a lot of it will depend on how many people get each device and how much dev support they receive. If the flyer/view had more devs (and believe me, they tried recruiting.) Then we would probably be in a much happier place.
Galaxy S5 Specifications At MWC 2014
Form factor: Water-resistant bar phone, IP67 certification
General: 2G, 3G and 4G LTE connectivity
Dimensions: 142 x 72.5 x 8.1mm, 145 g
Display: 5.1" 16M-color Super AMOLED HD capacitive touchscreen with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels (431ppi)
Chipset: Snapdragon 800 MSM8974-AC
CPU: 2.5GHz Krait 400
GPU: Adreno 330
RAM: 2GB
OS: Android 4.4.2 (KitKat)
Memory: 16/32GB storage, microSD card slot
Still camera: 16 megapixel auto-focus camera
Video camera: UHD (2160p) video recording
Connectivity: Wi-Fi a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth 4.0, microUSB 3.0 with MHL, GPS receiver with A-GPS and GLONASS, 3.5mm audio jack, NFC, Infrared port
Battery: 2800mAh
Heart rate monitor
Fingerprint scanner
Additional sensors: humidity sensor, temperature sensor
Is it having the FM radio?
tariq2kn said:
Is it having the FM radio?
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Yeah
tariq2kn said:
Is it having the FM radio?
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What's with people's obsession with FM radio ? I mean haven't you heard about TuneIn or similar apps. I mean argument could be about needing an internet but unless you're in the middle of nowhere you'll have cellular provider with DATA plan on it. I mean I am in New York and we're FAR FAR behind other countries and we're having unlimited internet already here with budget companies not to mention premium (Like Simple Mobile vs T-Mobile or H2O vs ATT) so that said I do see a lot of people asking about FM radio and if phone does not have one it's like mehhhh on auto. Anyone care to explain. ?
Now about SGS5. I am proud owner of i337 (It's a SGS4 from ATT) And I am totally happy with it and being an phone junky and was totally in to SGS5 and after hearing everything I must admit I no longer have an urge to get one, I mean forget about significant upgrade, I just no digging lower PPI and no metal in-casing. So I may be skipping this time around. Who knows I may even cheat on Samsung with ....next HTC One ? ......
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What's with people's obsession with FM radio ? I mean haven't you heard about TuneIn or similar apps. I mean argument could be about needing an internet but unless you're in the middle of nowhere you'll have cellular provider with DATA plan on it. I mean I am in New York and we're FAR FAR behind other countries and we're having unlimited internet already here with budget companies not to mention premium (Like Simple Mobile vs T-Mobile or H2O vs ATT) so that said I do see a lot of people asking about FM radio and if phone does not have one it's like mehhhh on auto. Anyone care to explain. ?
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Well, it costs money to have data, internet radio has a significant delay... Radio is offered for free, I don't want to pay even more to use it.
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Well, it costs money to have data, internet radio has a significant delay... Radio is offered for free, I don't want to pay even more to use it.
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On top of that, it could prove helpful in an emergency situation where you don't have a data connection and need access to the latest news.
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Hey Guys,
Just noticed Android Wear's upcoming update claiming that it will enable the dormant WiFi that "most Android Wear watches already have the hardware for" and I'm hoping this one is no exception! Can anyone confirm if the G watch R's version of the Snapdragon 400 has the WiFi chip on board?
Really want to pull the trigger on this watch, wifi connectivity would push me over the fence to finally justify Android Wear ...
Peut être, en tout cas,la puce wifi est intégrée au snapdragon 400 normalement.
Wow that would be really nice
Take a look here. It looks like the GWR has indeed wifi on board
The Snapdragon 400 which is in the LG G Watch R comes with the following on the chip found here:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/400
LTE:
Integrated 4G LTE Advanced World Mode, supporting LTE FDD, LTE TDD, WCDMA (DC-HSPA+), CDMA1x, EV-DO Rev. B, TD-SCDMA and GSM/EDGE
CAT4 speeds of up to 150 Mbps
3rd Generation integrated LTE modem, with support for LTE-Broadcast and LTE multimode dual-SIM (DSDS and DSDA)"
WiFi:
Qualcomm® VIVE™ 802.11n/ac† Integrated digital core
GPS:
Qualcomm® IZat™ Gen8A
Unless I'm missing something here those are all included in the chip right per QualComm's website.
They can still be disabled, and Qualcomm need payment for the drivers and license, also antennas are needed. Of course that all might be already covered.
Nice to hear
And you can see this link too http://www.slideshare.net/jjwu6266/qualcomm-snapdragon-400based-android-wear
w w w .notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-400-APQ8026-SoC.127990.0.html
My fear was it had a variant of the Snapdragon 400, the APQ8026, that didn't have WiFi capability, or as mentioned earlier, a missing antenna (or some other hardware excuse or limitation) that would not permit enabling WiFi once the update is out... Hope I'm wrong
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8226 this processor is LG G Watch R
Zabol said:
Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8226 this processor is LG G Watch R
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I think its 8026 model you can refer it in wikipedia too
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I think its 8026 model you can refer it in wikipedia too
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Darn.. Really hoping its the chipset with wireless built in... Really don't want to have to listen to all the Apple Watch owners at work.. "Well my watch does not need to be connected to the phone".. grr... BTW, I actually switched from an Iphone 6 back to android (been about 4 years) just for this watch.. Lets hope we do have the wireless chipset... Now Now I know some of you may be thinking.. "Why whats the big deal, its supposed to be a companion device".. I agree, just would be nice to have the option..
If the bluetooth and wifi is part of the same module then there is a good chance that they share the same antenna for 2.4 ghz.
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The G Watch R does indeed have a Qualcomm APQ8026 as stated by the AIDA64 android wear app. However, the APQ8026 is also used on several Microsoft, LG, and Samsung smartphones and tablets that clearly have wifi connectivity, so that is a good sign.
Here's the chipset claims I found so far for this watch:
gsmarena.com/lg_g_watch_r-review-1173.php
Claims "Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 (MSM8226)", article is dated Dec 1 2014.
Source 2, Wikipedia, claims "Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 MSM8226"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_G_Watch_R
Source 3, claims "MSM8026"
hwbot.org/hardware/device/3727/w110_g_watch_r/
So not sure if it varies by region, or nobody really knows which chipset lurks beneath.. No sign of specs on LG's website, the manual pdf, or Google Store.
What if you try to check chipset via adb, does "Hardware:" show anything on android wear?
Code:
adb shell cat proc/cpuinfo
Other than updating the time and weather etc, what benefits would WiFi have anyways? The phone is still needed for most interactive services isn't it? And wouldn't any real benefits require the wear api to be updated heavily?
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Other than updating the time and weather etc, what benefits would WiFi have anyways? The phone is still needed for most interactive services isn't it? And wouldn't any real benefits require the wear api to be updated heavily?
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By connecting through the same WiFi network, one would get the benefit of knowing all the notifications, calls, updates, etc. without having to have the main phone on you all the time (in my case, my beloved bulky note 3). Basically keeps the watch functional within the bigger range of a home/office WiFi network rather than just when it's in device Bluetooth range. At least that's what I'm hoping for.
Using WiFi, the watch would never need to be near the phone for anything, except security if you have a screen lock that turns on when away from the watch.
Everything could be managed via Wifi instead of Bluetooth. No more worries if walking away from your phone and losing connection to everything. Android Wear could be adjusted to manage everything via WiFi instead. Or, use both Bluetooth and Wifi interchangeably as needed.
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For me it would have extremely limited usefulness anyway, about the only place I have a Wifi connection is at home... where my phone will be.
AIDA 64 run on the watch reports the CPU as the 8026.
Just a final update on the topic, it seems that another discussion regarding the older LG g watch (with similar internal hardware as newer g watch r), the only radio chipset seen was the BT 4.0, and "no wifi hardware in sight" as explained by fellow member ShadowEO:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-w...-watch-gps-t3032275/post59466827#post59466827
And a comparison of both watches confirming that the r version (w110) is identical in processor specs as the previous w100 model, both with the 8026 snapdragon 400, and no WiFi support:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=6694&id2=6405
"GPS Module Type: gpsOneGen 8A with GLONASS"
Does this mean our watch have gps like SWR3 but disabled?
Now that it is going live this week, you think there will be support for it on the Mi 5? Qualcomm said it's just a software fix for Snapdragon 617, 650, 820 etc.
It would be great, as its far more accurate and faster (at least thats what they say) than public GPS.
Satellites will go online tomorrow, but they are not running at full capacity yet. After all, only 14 out of the 30 planned satellites are up yet, while only 11 are in normal operation (2 are in a lower orbit and another has a hardware failure).
So whatever they promised, I doubt we'll see the full capacity yet. But maybe it can already beat GPS in on aspect or another.
Either way, this would be a great addition, but I wonder if we have to depend on xiaomi for new blobs or if we can fix it ourselves?
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I wonder if we have to depend on xiaomi for new blobs or if we can fix it ourselves?
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Wondering the same.
If Gali support and a good version of 7.1.x comes to the Mi 5, I might buy it, otherwise, it's time to check for something else. Since it lacks SD-slot and Radio (not very important, but still a feature I use.)