HTC One M7 Liquid Damage Indicator - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
May I know where is the liquid damage indicator on HTC One? As it has come into contact with water, but still working well ...
Thanks
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There's such a thing as a liquid damage indicator...?

ArmedandDangerous said:
There's such a thing as a liquid damage indicator...?
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I think what dplate07 mentioned is the indicator that inside iPhone. There is an indicator inside the phone to detect whether it got wet before.

why678 said:
I think what dplate07 mentioned is something like what iPhone has. There are an indicator inside the phone to detect whether it gets wet before.
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Honestly I've never heard of such a thing >.< And no talk of such a thing being present in any Android device AFAIK

ArmedandDangerous said:
There's such a thing as a liquid damage indicator...?
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I wouldn't say damage, but there is an indicator that tells if the device has had contact with water. And they can deny warranty claims if the indicator shows contact.
EDIT: Kinda like this. But on the inside. It's just a reactive strip.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn-Your-Cell-Phones-quotI-Got-Wetquot-Indic/
I know the Droids have had them. idk about HTC phones. I've only had the One series, and these didn't have removable backs.
EDIT EDIT: I was looking at the teardown of the One. Looks like the only thing that may resemble an indicator is on the battery. If water got that deep into the phone, you're screwed regardless lol.
http://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/WOBCYAFfUYREeJMk.large

Thanks!
However I wonder if anyone can confirm the exact location ?
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ArmedandDangerous said:
Honestly I've never heard of such a thing >.< And no talk of such a thing being present in any Android device AFAIK
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Almost every device has one actually usually on the battery, or sticker behind the battery, or inside the headphone jack / usb slot.
It's to diagnose water damage and void warranties

MacHackz said:
Almost every device has one actually usually on the battery, or sticker behind the battery, or inside the headphone jack / usb slot.
It's to diagnose water damage and void warranties
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Hmm ok, I've never really heard about this Luckily my phone insurance covers water damage

ArmedandDangerous said:
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So why are you even commenting, posting, and wasting peoples time on here?
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shook187 said:
So why are you even commenting, posting, and wasting peoples time on here?
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It's wrong to ask when one does not know? You look knowledgeable, maybe you can help out instead of posting what you did which helps nobody?

ArmedandDangerous said:
Honestly I've never heard of such a thing >.< And no talk of such a thing being present in any Android device AFAIK
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There is a nice video on youtube disassembling a Galaxy S. The indicator plate is well visible. It's been used for a long time in many Android phones.
My girl friend had her Galaxy S got a defect home button. They refused the repair and said that it had got moisture and is thus out of warrenty (they offered to destroy it or send it back for 100 bucks, btw !!!).

As far as I know they used to use litmus paper in small dots which would change colour if it became wet.
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dplate07 said:
Thanks!
However I wonder if anyone can confirm the exact location ?
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After looking at the pics of the tear down couldn't find anything but the one on the battery.
http://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/WOBCYAFfUYREeJMk.large

Does anyone have the warranty/user guides, and can they see if there's anything about the standard operating environment especially maximum humidity? I think my phone's been borked by the South East Asian humidity.

They are often also in the headphone jack on phones that don't have a battery door. They'll be at the bottom of the jack so that technicians can just use a flashlight to check it out before disassembling the phone.

Actually most devices DO NOT have these anymore, as simple humidity would turn the indicators and give false readings. the only true way they can deny a warranty for liquid damage is the presence of corrosion, usually in the charge port, or on the mainboard if its a servicable device by the carrier. also if you hand it to them dripping wet.

The liquid indicator is actually hidden behind the flash on the back of the phone. The HTC First also has the liquid indicator located there.
**edit, to be more exact, it's located exactly to the right of the LED.

deeevan said:
Does anyone have the warranty/user guides, and can they see if there's anything about the standard operating environment especially maximum humidity? I think my phone's been borked by the South East Asian humidity.
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I'm from South East Asia too and nope no issues here with humidity and stuff.

Riyal said:
I'm from South East Asia too and nope no issues here with humidity and stuff.
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I know there normally wouldn't be, but I woke up to condensation between my phone and TPU case while it was charging It's currently sitting in a bag of rice and silica gel.

Htc one m7 water damage indicator
dplate07 said:
Thanks!
However I wonder if anyone can confirm the exact location ?
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Yes I know of one place it's the white or yellow square next to camera,if it has red or a bit of black it's water damaged.

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[Q] Poor reception after screen replacement

Not sure if anyone can help with this. I've just replaced my SGS screen after bashing the original in a bike accident. (It's a genuine Samsung part)
Now I've found that phone reception is poor - it's always been a bit borderline in my flat, but after the repair I can't get my network (uk vodafone) inside. I can get it outside. Tried a few different modems without any improvement.
WIFI is fine.
I've opened up the phone again, and made sure all the little tabs are springy and making contact, and all connectors are in place.
Can anyone give me some advice on what else to try? I'm not sure exactly where the radio aerial is in these phones.
Sounds like some connector must be loose. Try a pm to iammodo, he's a samsung repair guy in blackpool. U can find his thread in the themes section. Hope u get it sorted.
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if it helps .
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
jje
I was gonna post that link but couldn't remember which site it was on. 'ware the freaky nails!
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Thanks guys. Have checked all the connections again. I'll try iammodo.
Just put my sim into my old blackberry, and have 3 bars - even when the SGS was behaving properly I had borderline reception here - a bar if I was lucky. Pretty poor show eh.
bernmc said:
Thanks guys. Have checked all the connections again. I'll try iammodo.
Just put my sim into my old blackberry, and have 3 bars - even when the SGS was behaving properly I had borderline reception here - a bar if I was lucky. Pretty poor show eh.
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Gold or silver connector on aux cable?
iammodo said:
Gold or silver connector on aux cable?
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connectors are gold
bernmc said:
connectors are gold
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Check that its secured on the screen and the mainboard.
Apart from that return it and get a new one as its part of the screen.
Might just be a dud sorry can't help more.
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Want to hard brick my phone.

Hi guys this is probably insane but my phone get deep scratches on all 4 sides because of a stupid cover so now I want to replace this phone and I think a hard brick is the only way so can u guys pls tell me how to brick my phone I m on stock 2.3.5.
And guys pls let me know that if I hard brick my phone thrgh your suggested method. HTC will replace and give me a new cell or not?
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The only way I know of to properly screw your phone is to flash an incompatible radio, but even then I'm not sure that HTC will replace it. First time I've come across someone who actually wants to bork their phone!
Downgrade to froyo. That will completely **** it.
Edit: HTC will probably replace the motherboard, almost as good as a new phone.
For what I known (at least in my country) phones are replaced with a new one if it has less than 7 or 14 days, after that they will repair your phone...
A myth through the web say that you could screw you phone by putting it in the micro-wave for a few seconds (obviously without battery); some people tell that it's detectable, others not, others say only if you cook for long time...
Thank you guys but I want more and exact suggestions by which HTC can replace my cell not only motherboard...I m from india.
Does anyone have an exact idea and yeah one more thing how to flash a radio.
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mohitgalaxy3 said:
And guys pls let me know that if I hard brick my phone thrgh your suggested method. HTC will replace and give me a new cell or not?
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I think no cause you loose manufacturer warranty after making a phoneflash
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Thank you guys but I want more and exact suggestions by which HTC can replace my cell not only motherboard...I m from india.
Does anyone have an exact idea and yeah one more thing how to flash a radio.
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I would be carefull because if you mess up your phone htc could say that it was caused by you when you got the marks on the case as they say you dropped it even if you didn't.
Nonverbose said:
Downgrade to froyo. That will completely **** it.
Edit: HTC will probably replace the motherboard, almost as good as a new phone.
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And how can I do it man??
incrediblealex said:
I would be carefull because if you mess up your phone htc could say that it was caused by you when you got the marks on the case as they say you dropped it even if you didn't.
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Hmm so I think I have to live with those scratches....right guys?
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hmm so I think I have to live with those scratches....right guys?
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I don't think its worth the trouble, of you deliberately brick it, they will either not fix it, or maybe replace the motherboard.
Maybe you can take it somewhere to get the casing replaced? You can buy that sort of stuff in eBay
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And how can I do it man??
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No point really if there's nothing actually wrong with the phone besides cosmetic. Post a pic of the damage?
Idk how Urs in India, but Herr in Austria they just repair if phone never fell hard on the Ground or Water. My little Brother bricked his Samsung Galaxy Ace s Motherboard by flashing another Recovery. And Samsung has given us a new phone, it was rooted.
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See if there's an ota update, if so remove battery during update.
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itsbeertimenow said:
See if there's an ota update, if so remove battery during update.
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Yeah man even I was thinking abt it but phone is already upgraded to 2.3.5
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Silversniper said:
Idk how Urs in India, but Herr in Austria they just repair if phone never fell hard on the Ground or Water. My little Brother bricked his Samsung Galaxy Ace s Motherboard by flashing another Recovery. And Samsung has given us a new phone, it was rooted.
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Yeah, this is what happened to my IncS. It was little less than a month old when my wife dropped it on hard ground. The ambient light sensor went berserk, and the phone would restart every few minutes. Took it to a HTC center here in B'lore, and they gave me a new IncS In fact, I was given the choice to take any HTC phone for the same price.
Good luck if you decide on doing the same
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so they didn't ask why the light sensor went bad ? i mean does HTC replace a handset if it is damaged due to human error or natural causes?
gunswordx said:
so they didn't ask why the light sensor went bad ? i mean does HTC replace a handset if it is damaged due to human error or natural causes?
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I never told them I dropped it But of course, unlike in your case, my phone did not have too many scratches on it. Very few, actually. The only apparent problem with it was the light sensor.
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AymaR13 said:
I never told them I dropped it But of course, unlike in your case, my phone did not have too many scratches on it. Very few, actually. The only apparent problem with it was the light sensor.
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mine is completely scratch free(one year old). just asking out of curiosity
AymaR13 said:
Yeah, this is what happened to my IncS. It was little less than a month old when my wife dropped it on hard ground. The ambient light sensor went berserk, and the phone would restart every few minutes. Took it to a HTC center here in B'lore, and they gave me a new IncS In fact, I was given the choice to take any HTC phone for the same price.
Good luck if you decide on doing the same
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Wohoo man now seriously I'll brick it....just tell me one thing earlier I was using Samsung galaxy 3 and I used to flash roms directly using a software(Odin) now if I disconnect the data cable in the meanwhile phone will get bricked off course (dead).
Now I m new to inc s pls tell me a similar procedure I m on stock 2.3.5 no root nothing just tell me how to brick it in a similar fashion...pls man pls..
Edit: just one more thing I don't wanna s-off it bcs HTC will caught then I think just tell me how to make it dead pls man eagerly waiting for ur reply
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gunswordx said:
mine is completely scratch free(one year old). just asking out of curiosity
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Oh, sorry! Mistook you for the thread creator. He apparently has a few scratches on his phone.
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[Q] My W8 fell in the water, can it be found if the warranty is voided?

Hello.
My phone was in my pocket when I entered a beach. I realized it, I ran out of the beach, I took it out, but it had absorbed some water.
Stupidly, I tried to turn it on. It started with an unending vibration. For 3 tried, the same vibration occurred.
Then, it stopped.
I separated both the battery and the circuit board.
I tried turning it on once in a while. It didn't work.
So, I'm probably going to have to give the mobile to the Service Center.
But, will they find out if the mobile has it's bootloader locked/unlocked when the mobile is so screwed?
And, if so, how can I relock it?
Thank You.
MeTaL_StaR said:
Hello.
My phone was in my pocket when I entered a beach. I realized it, I ran out of the beach, I took it out, but it had absorbed some water.
Stupidly, I tried to turn it on. It started with an unending vibration. For 3 tried, the same vibration occurred.
Then, it stopped.
I separated both the battery and the circuit board.
I tried turning it on once in a while. It didn't work.
So, I'm probably going to have to give the mobile to the Service Center.
But, will they find out if the mobile has it's bootloader locked/unlocked when the mobile is so screwed?
And, if so, how can I relock it?
Thank You.
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I have no idea dude
but if your phone can turning on u can relock it with s1 tool..
u can check if the flash-modes working (turn off phone and press back button while plug in to PC )
hope can help your prob
Actually, if your phone couldn't be turned on, you don't need to worry about this because they can't check your phone if the phone's bootloader is unlocked.
And i'm sure that the phone will not turn on again
but there sure can find that it was damaged due to water and you are out of warranty then. they don't cover physical damages due to user's mistake.
CnC-ROCK said:
but there sure can find that it was damaged due to water and you are out of warranty then. they don't cover physical damages due to user's mistake.
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Either way if you choose to repair it you will pay
Thank you.
I'll have to decide b/w paying for repair and buying a new mobile, the latter doesn't look good.
MeTaL_StaR said:
Thank you.
I'll have to decide b/w paying for repair and buying a new mobile, the latter doesn't look good.
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If you want my opinion, buy a new phone.
Xperia tipo:thumbup:
Price Slightly more than X8 but awesome!
:flipoff2: DEVILS NEVER CRY:flipoff2:
Tipo is actually good. Surprisingly it can run ICS smooth with only a 800 MHz processor.
It is a good alternative to X8 with almost the same price. And, it will depend on the support on xda !
Anyway, will decide.
Thanks a lot !
I've heard that if you keep you phone in a bowl of dry rice for a few days , the rice absorbs water and the phone gets fixed. Sounds silly , but you could give it a try. :silly:
Mayank77 said:
I've heard that if you keep you phone in a bowl of dry rice for a few days , the rice absorbs water and the phone gets fixed. Sounds silly , but you could give it a try. :silly:
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I did give it a try.
I probably screwed it up more worse than I imagined !
Is microwaving a mobile phone a good idea?
MeTaL_StaR said:
I did give it a try.
I probably screwed it up more worse than I imagined !
Is microwaving a mobile phone a good idea?
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But I think It was on when it fell in water or the water was inside when op tried to ON it & the motherboard must have been short circuited due to water..
It'll blast inside microwave
Never put metal in a microwave!
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Gogeta said:
But I think It was on when it fell in water or the water was inside when op tried to ON it & the motherboard must have been short circuited due to water..
It'll blast inside microwave
Never put metal in a microwave!
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Yeah, I did try to turn it on too quick. The vibrating sound may be the reason for a short circuit.
Yup, music to the ears..or that's what passes for music these days!

[Q] new digitizer, still not working!

hey guys, so i have the LG Optimus 2X, P990-HN, i'm with Fido (doubt it matters) anyway, there was a large crack in my screen, and i just dealt with it for a long time, but eventually the glass FELL OUT, the rest of it worked, but i couldn't leave it, so i ordered a new Digitizer from DealExtreme.com and it was about $50 CAD, reviews tell me it worked, googled it nobody else had complaints, so i doubt it's a fake or anything, all the way from singapore, i put it in and i can see everything clearly through it, beautiful, but zero response from the touch screen. none at all in any area, what could it be? also, if i take the screen out to re-seat it do i need to apply heat and completely remove it, and if so will that make it garbage and need a new one? will the heat kill it? i'm quite upset because it costed 50 bucks and took a long time to get here, and i finally put it in and it doesn't work, all help appreciated!
Have you tried the service center ? One probable way to check if the new one really works is to connect the old one back and see if touch works.. You might have accidentally pulled out some other connection .. just my guess
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vkk178 said:
Have you tried the service center ? One probable way to check if the new one really works is to connect the old one back and see if touch works.. You might have accidentally pulled out some other connection .. just my guess
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if i take off thte new screen with a hair dryer, will that ruin the screen though?
Not sure about that . Is the new screen stuck on to the device like a sticker ? I recall seeing some YouTube videos on Optimus 2x surgery
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The digitizer , screen and the glass are usually a single unit .. yes any one of them is worn out , it can be replaced ... but u have to find d place where it s done ..
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skanda93 said:
The digitizer , screen and the glass are usually a single unit .. yes any one of them is worn out , it can be replaced ... but u have to find d place where it s done ..
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yes i ordered a digitizer though, replace it and it didnt work, what the hell could it be i just dont understand, and i can do it myself but i don't know the problem
I have done this twice with OK success. It is important to connect all electronics correctly - check YouTube for guides. But even if you did all correct be digitiser might be defect. Either you being it to service centre or redo digitiser install. Maybe, you can check before closing the phone, and if not working correctly check with your old digitiser. Heating and reheating should be no problem (although nothing is without risk). Good luck.
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oneearleft said:
I have done this twice with OK success. It is important to connect all electronics correctly - check YouTube for guides. But even if you did all correct be digitiser might be defect. Either you being it to service centre or redo digitiser install. Maybe, you can check before closing the phone, and if not working correctly check with your old digitiser. Heating and reheating should be no problem (although nothing is without risk). Good luck.
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hey, thanks for helping me out. i think the digitizer MUST be defective, i took it apart and put the old SHATTERED one in, and it works FINE, aside from you know... being shattered. then i plugged the other NEW one in, and no response from the touchscreen. the ribbon wire looks to be fine, the connection to the logic board was fine, everything was hooked up right (or the other one wouldn't have worked right?) so if i cant SEE anything wrong with a digitizer, what could even be wrong with it, it MUST be defective, but what can really be defective about a digitizer? what can go wrong on something with so little to break...?
Don't know what is wrong, but it must have been defect before you got it. Try to return it to the seller/shop as soon as possible and get your money back.
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[Q] Touch stopped working!

I was taking photos in the pool and everything was fine. But after a few minutes outside the water, the touch suddenly stopped working. The water indicators are all white and everything but the touch are still working. I can even take pictures.
I have restarted, factory reseted, put a new firmware and nothing seens to solve it. Must be a hardware problem. Any sugestions?
There aren't any water indicators on Z1. You already did what you should. Last thing is to flash a new FTF via Flashtool and if this will not solve the problem then it's a hardware failure and go for replacement.
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There aren't any water indicators on Z1. You already did what you should. Last thing is to flash a new FTF via Flashtool and if this will not solve the problem then it's a hardware failure and go for replacement.
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They are in the covered ports. Already flashed a new FTF, no lucky.
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.Already flashed a new FTF, no lucky.
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Then go via warranty. Are you sure the indicators are there under the flaps? I tested the flaps many times and no sign of any indicators. Maybe they are fake.
eclyptos said:
Then go via warranty. Are you sure the indicators are there under the flaps? I tested the flaps many times and no sign of any indicators. Maybe they are fake.
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The problem is that I bought in US, but I'm in Brazil. They aren't in the flaps, are in the port itself
Tucasiqueira said:
The problem is that I bought in US, but I'm in Brazil. They aren't in the flaps, are in the port itself
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Then you should go for international warranty from Sony Service, call them.
BTW, I think you confusing the reset button with the indicator. Trust me there is no any indicator. You can say this all day, trust me.
eclyptos said:
Then you should go for international warranty from Sony Service, call them.
BTW, I think you confusing the reset button with the indicator. Trust me there is no any indicator. You can say this all day, trust me.
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there are actualy 2. One near the sim slot and one in the sd card slot. It's a litte white retangle, just look to the bottom of the slots and you should see it
Tucasiqueira said:
there are actualy 2. One near the sim slot and one in the sd card slot. It's a litte white retangle, just look to the bottom of the slots and you should see it
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Sorry, my Z1 is normal, your have to be special. There is no any indicator. Type on XDA "Z1 Indicators" and you will read about it more deeply. I am not new to this so stop telling me this crap.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...-the-water-indicator-on-Xperia-Z1/td-p/397501 from the Sony forum. It's not crap, the indicators are the white strips on the reverse of the flaps. They will turn red if your wet them. Try it if you don't believe me.
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gregbradley said:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...-the-water-indicator-on-Xperia-Z1/td-p/397501 from the Sony website so it's not crap.
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Hey Greg, I saw this page and sorry if I was rude in the last post but under my flaps there is not any kind of indicators, not even close. A picture of this indicators will help me to understand if I am wrong...
Googling "Xperia z1 water indicator" reveals that there actually is at least 1 physical indicator. Maybe it's model-specific or there are just a lot lot of people with a misunderstanding.
Either way, you should go for the warranty and contact the Sony support.
Since its only your touchscreen that stopped working, chances are good that it's can be repaired by an independent phone repair center, but that would cost a bit.
Good luck
gregbradley said:
the indicators are the white strips on the reverse of the flaps. They will turn red if your wet them. Try it if you don't believe me.
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I did. I took off the flap from micro SD and I drop water on it and still gray like new the first time. I can make a vid about this if someone don't believe..so?
My Z1s doesn't have any indicators under the flaps either. There might be one inside, but nothing on the flaps.
aooga said:
My Z1s doesn't have any indicators under the flaps either. There might be one inside, but nothing on the flaps.
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Iono mine has then mind you I bought mine here in Canada
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dakunclear said:
Iono mine has then mind you I bought mine here in Canada
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Picture?
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Picture?
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+1
The touch started waorking again, after 4 days not working! I coudn't be more happy
I've got the Z1 and theres no water indicators on mine either, could it be that the Z1S has them but not the Z1 ?

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