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[Q] Time to upgrade........

OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm looking for views from existing SGN users here. Do you love the Note? Hate it? What do you like most about it, and what drives you potty?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Rob

I love my note. It's definitely my favorite phone out of the 8 smartphones I've owned (iPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS, 4, HTC Sensation, Samsung Vibrant, LG G2X). The downside? It is the most disappointing phone development wise. There doesn't seem to be any good ROM out there. Stock is painfully slow. There is no CM7 which is really disappointing. Any of the ICS I've seen out has had major problems which is why I haven't upgraded yet. There are horror stories about people bring their phones when upgrading to ICS and so far it doesn't seem to be a small number of people which is really sad. Samsung is JUST rolling out ICS now but I've heard stock ICS is also very slow and if you have CWM on or from what I understand have rooted your phone at all, you run a huge risk of bricking if you try put ICS on.
TL DR; If you don't mind staying stock for a WHILE, get the Note because it's awesome having a huge screen, resolution, and the SPen.
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cruno91 said:
I love my note. It's definitely my favorite phone out of the 8 smartphones I've owned (iPhone 2G, 3G, 3GS, 4, HTC Sensation, Samsung Vibrant, LG G2X). The downside? It is the most disappointing phone development wise. There doesn't seem to be any good ROM out there. Stock is painfully slow. There is no CM7 which is really disappointing. Any of the ICS I've seen out has had major problems which is why I haven't upgraded yet. There are horror stories about people bring their phones when upgrading to ICS and so far it doesn't seem to be a small number of people which is really sad. Samsung is JUST rolling out ICS now but I've heard stock ICS is also very slow and if you have CWM on or from what I understand have rooted your phone at all, you run a huge risk of bricking if you try put ICS on.
TL DR; If you don't mind staying stock for a WHILE, get the Note because it's awesome having a huge screen, resolution, and the SPen.
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Exactly my thoughts! Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing. I am lazy as hell.
I flashed tons of ROMs and back to stock. At least I won't be bricking my phone this way.
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To the OP: If I were you, I would get the One X or the S3, depending on the needs. Like I need the sd card and removable battery so it would rather be the S3 for me. Assuming you haven't used the note for long, both these phones must feel great to you. For almost all of us here, they are just too darn small. Once you use a note, you just get addicted to it.
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Thanks guys. Keep them coming.
I played with the Note and the HOX today and liked them both, but the huge Note battery is drawing me towards it.
I'm 6'1" and have hands like pan-shovels so the size of the Note isnt a -ve to me.

love mine too!
Yeah loving the bigger screen. I'd never go back to something smaller.
On a different note.. (haha) had mine a month and have rooted and switched the rom and Kernel.. wasn't very hard just had to get over the mind set of bricking it.
Buy one!

Note, large screen, s-pen apps (if you're inclined to use them), some good roms, ICS development with the new builds should be on their way soon
the rest? S3, rather than 1x. or at least wait till reviews come out comparing the 2.

wait
wait for Galaxy S3 - I allready have it and It's awsome!!!

RobTheRover said:
OK, its time to upgrade my trusty DHD.....
...but what gets my hard-earned (no, really) pennies?
To me there are 4 options........
1) HTC One X
2) Samsung Galaxy Note
3) Wait until the 30th and get the Samsung Galaxy SIII
4) Keep the DHD for another 12 months and benefit from a cheaper contract.
So, if it was your pennies getting spent, where would they be going?
I'm looking for views from existing SGN users here. Do you love the Note? Hate it? What do you like most about it, and what drives you potty?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Rob
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The Note is fabulous - better than the GNex I came from. Why? The screen principally - the Galaxy nexus screen just seemed so small compared!
I think the answer is this:
1. If you want the latest tech - go for the One X or the S3.
2. However, as it's so early in their life cycle you don't know what problems they will have (other than we already know the OneX has cr*p battery life) and we all know that no phone is perfect. Each phone I've had (and I've had a few) has had it's own unique issue.
3. If screen size is important, forget the other two and go for the Note. There is just simply no question of that (until Note II is announced in future!)
Maybe quad core will be a bit faster than dual core but I doubt it will make much of a difference in everyday use. In any event, I hate TW / Sense etc so always remove that bloatware and, hey presto, android flies on the Note (not that it was sluggish with TW).
And the lack of reliable ICS at the moment? In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered? There's such a clamour for it and, yes, it's a bit prettier and more logical in places but GB is absolutely fine for 99.98%.
Just my £0.02. Good luck with the decision.
Edit: Just seen that you're a brit - no need to look up Catherine Tate! More importantly, just realised you've got a DHD. Move on, you won't be disappointed. Sure, tech will move on over the next few monts, years etc but it always does.

apd said:
In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered?
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We Americans also know who Catherine Tate is, and not just because she's on our version of The Office now
Clicked as soon as you said "am I bovvered?".

Go for the Note,mate. You won't regret it
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apd said:
The Note is fabulous - better than the GNex I came from. Why? The screen principally - the Galaxy nexus screen just seemed so small compared!
I think the answer is this:
1. If you want the latest tech - go for the One X or the S3.
2. However, as it's so early in their life cycle you don't know what problems they will have (other than we already know the OneX has cr*p battery life) and we all know that no phone is perfect. Each phone I've had (and I've had a few) has had it's own unique issue.
3. If screen size is important, forget the other two and go for the Note. There is just simply no question of that (until Note II is announced in future!)
Maybe quad core will be a bit faster than dual core but I doubt it will make much of a difference in everyday use. In any event, I hate TW / Sense etc so always remove that bloatware and, hey presto, android flies on the Note (not that it was sluggish with TW).
And the lack of reliable ICS at the moment? In the words of Catherine Tate (look her up if you're not British!) - am I bovvered? There's such a clamour for it and, yes, it's a bit prettier and more logical in places but GB is absolutely fine for 99.98%.
Just my £0.02. Good luck with the decision.
Edit: Just seen that you're a brit - no need to look up Catherine Tate! More importantly, just realised you've got a DHD. Move on, you won't be disappointed. Sure, tech will move on over the next few monts, years etc but it always does.
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Thanks for that. I agree with your assessment, especially ICS which is definitely leaving me underwhelmed in terms of how "un-different" (new word!) it is to GB, especially after having used Honeycomb on my tablet for the past 6 months.
I've decided (with a feeling of I'm cheating on a loved one) to get a Note online, then I can return it under distance selling laws if I find it unbearable to live with. I suspect it wont be going back.
Genuinely, many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread. Your insight has been much appreciated.
Rob

I love the large screen and battery of the Note.
The S3 is more future proof, but only because of the processors. RAM is the same.
One thing in the s3's favor is the LED notification light! w00t! I have been missing this on EVERY device that wasn't a blackberry!
The s3 also has a large battery, but .. the Note takes the cake.
The One X is out of the picture. Why? Removable battery. Also, they pushed the device so fast to get it out on the market as one of the first quadcore devices that ... well, to me it doesn't seem that attractive. The s3 on the other hand looks mighty fine!
The Note is awesome for its screen and battery size (as well as the S-Pen).
It's really your call... Sometimes I wish my note were a tiny bit smaller, but I don't regret it when I'm actually using it! hehe.

I upgraded from DHD to galaxy note and can say it was the upgrade. Absolutely amazing display over DHD, much better battery life, faster, smoother, much better camera, etc. When I look back now to already my wife's DHD, it seems to be a nice small phone ... Was able to replace most of work on my laptop with note thanks to Swype ...
I have both on stock ROM, didn't find need to go for ICS on my note. Everything is working flawlessly, maybe will change my mind half year later when there will be more positive reaction from community ... my few cents .
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One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.

I've had my note since november and I love it!! The huge screen is so much fun and great to surf the web!!! It doesn't feel bigger in my pocket than my previous phone (iPhone). Even though it has a huge screen the battery life is really good (especially with my actual rom Criskelo)
I haven't tried the other phones you posted but I am still trying to understand why anyone would need a quadcore in his phone today!! I installed spy cpu on my SGN and my CPU almost never rises to 1400MHz so what could anyone do with the extra power maybe 3D games since I don't play any so can't tell about the performances but I doubt it since the note still has one of the best processors out there! The games I play are: solitaire, temple run, fruit ninja,...
joyork said:
One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.
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I don't really notice the sluggishness, everything seems smooth!! The rom I am using is lighter than the stock rom so there may be a difference! If you wan't to remove Touchwiz you'd better install a new rom on your phone would be easier than to modify the stock rom! In either case you need to root your phone! At first didn't want to do it but in the end I am happy and giving some good feedback about the rom I am using! And the bricking is pretty rare!!
To install a new rom if you literally follow instructions you can't run into problems!! A bit of research and in the end it just takes 10/15min to change rom!

joyork said:
One thing that's driving me mad is the sluggishness of the stock Gingerbread ROM. Is the official ICS ROM still sluggish?
If so, would rooting the phone and deleting some of the bloat help? Also, is it possible to remove Touchwiz from the official ROM? I'm a bit scared to try any other ROMs in case I brick my phone.
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That's an easy one. Root and install one of the stock rooted GB Roms. No need to 'remove' TW. Just install another launcher (let's not start the 'which launcher is best' argument here) and then set that as default. TW will fade into the background and won't be used and your Note will be faster.
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zkyevolved said:
The s3 also has a large battery, but .. the Note takes the cake.
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Only 2100mah I think? Not that big - nearly 20% smaller than the Note.

2) Samsung Galaxy Note

Thinking of buying the N700 (switching from Galaxy Nexus)

Hey guys, just looking for you opinion on what I should expect when switching from Galaxy Nexus to a Galaxy Note (N700) in terms of performance.
I mostly use the browser so I am most concerned with the browser performance. I have played a bit with one and could clearly see differences in performance compared to the buttery-smooth Galaxy Nexus. I think I could live with these minor shortcomings though, when I've got that HUGE screen. I also think I'd be better off with a bigger screen when I'm typing, because I type a lot, either in the browser or IM'ing with people. This is the main reason I want the Note.
Basically I want to know what you guys miss from your old phone, before the Note.

I've been toying with the idea of getting a Nexus just for the ability to switch between Tmobile and Att. What's stopping me is that I tried a S3 for a month but I kept coming back to the Note. The BIG SCREEN is really nice.
So far I have not found a JB rom for the Note that I like. They all seem so laggy compared to a CM9 rom with Apex and some minor UI tweeaks. Even stock TW roms that people swear a butter smooth seem laggy to me, ok not going between desktop screens but it is slow. If I were in your shoes, I would buy a used Note and give it a go but not be so quick to sell the Nexus.

The really big difference I can think of, switching from Gnex to Gnote is the very fast update that Google makes on the Gnex itself... When Google say that Gnex is their brand of phone to get the latest JB updates.. they really mean it to a tee. You get the best of both worlds that Google can deliver to your phone no question about that.
The only thing that's holding me from selling my Gnote and switching back to Gnex was and is still the fact on the WOW Factor that our phone makes to a lot of people. Whenever I stroll down Portsmouth to bars or drinking with my buddies.. it never fails to amaze me a stranger would right off comment and say.. " hey you got a nice phone there bud!".. I just smirked and smiled back at them.

I feel wait for note 2 bf4 taking any decision
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letters_to_cleo said:
The only thing that's holding me from selling my Gnote and switching back to Gnex was and is still the fact on the WOW Factor that our phone makes to a lot of people. Whenever I stroll down Portsmouth to bars or drinking with my buddies.. it never fails to amaze me a stranger would right off comment and say.. " hey you got a nice phone there bud!".. I just smirked and smiled back at them.
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And when there's noone around to WOW, I just pull it out of my jeans and WOW myself. Never fails.
Man, that screen............

tatkovladko said:
And when there's noone around to WOW, I just pull it out of my jeans and WOW myself. Never fails.
Man, that screen............
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lol.... ,
I can understand if a chick comes up to you and says.. hey.. you got a nice bulge on your pants, you bring out the phone and the chick says... Oh. I thought it's something else!
what a bummer!
anyway goin back, yeah the Note still a spectacle to have with.. I mean, it got a nice big screen, faster GPS and I can truly say, I had scribbled my signature once on an online cheque copy and sent it via email... how cool is that..,

Yeah, I'm definitely convinced now that I want it. And I'm ready to say (temporarily) good bye to Jelly Bean We are pretty sure that the Note 1 will be updated to Jelly Bean, right?

Given the scenario...yeah... But my constant rule is.. Never expect anything...if JB comes before this year ends then great! If doesn't, then that's good. At least there's something we can look forward to for early next year perhaps.
"Hope for the best, expect for the worst"
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teomor said:
Yeah, I'm definitely convinced now that I want it. And I'm ready to say (temporarily) good bye to Jelly Bean We are pretty sure that the Note 1 will be updated to Jelly Bean, right?
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Honestly, even if Jelly Bean does not trickle down to Note 1, I'm not bothered. Currently on Rocket ROM, previously used JellyCore v2 and I don't see any features that can sway me over. Even the "huge" upgrade from Gingerbread to ICS was a minor boost to me - only because of the feature to use voice-typing keyboard. I don't really see per-app notification settings or widgets that arrange automatically or Google Now or anything else particularly necessary. OK, "but what about project butter?!" some will say. I will say that on my 4.0.4 Note I don't feel sluggishness to make me want any speed improvements. And no, it's not a Note with the default apps that come with it - it's crammed with apps and I am a very heavy user.
Only gap-less audio playback and offline dictation might sway me over but definitely not a necessity.

I plan to use it with the stock ROM so Project Butter would probably make a lot of difference.

[Q] Should I get this phone as an upgrade?

Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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1GB is more than enough in most phones, I've never had RAM management problems with this one.
However, my answer is a big NO.
Let me elaborate;
>Battery life
With proper greenifying, wakelock detecting, and no more than 2% per 12h of battery discharge, it has a decent battery life, but it seems the screen and the tegra 3 chip draw a lot of power from it. An extended battery does fix that though, but don't expect more than 3h of screentime on a normal usage day and 60-70% brightness, on a normal battery.
>Stock ROM
Looks great, feels great, kernel is easily updated (if you got the bootloader unlocked, flash another one), and then works great too. This phone, in my opinion is meant to be the LG Optimus G's younger brother. I've tried a lot of custom roms, but stock is the one that takes it away from me, after properly kdz flashed (without the bloat apps and stuff).
>Heating issues
10 mins of playing, well, pretty much anything that's 3D makes the phone really hot, no thermal throttling though, but don't expect this phone to last if you play an hour of gaming or more. Even Subway Surf kills the battery.
>Tegra 3 incompatibility/unoptimized apps
Most games are made with Adreno in mind, needless to say, Adreno is not better than the T3, just has more optimizations done for it. Also some apps aren't available via the Play Store on this phone, but that can vary depending on your region.
In my opinion, I'd always go with an SGS3, even with stock touch wiz and bloat, because
a) it gets proper software updates, unlike LG and all of their devices, not just the 4X HD.
b) better modding support/community
c) apparently heats up a lot less and lasts a lot more, that also means given its support there's bound to be more extended batteries, cases, stands, cradles, docks, and equipment for it.
The only thing the 4X HD has going for it is the price, I've paid 180e for it, and it was a huge step up from an even worse phone than yours (Samsung Galaxy Mini, s5570), but so far, I'm not a happy camper.
And the screen has a dead pixel on it, which irks me a lot.
Oh and apparently someone took the KDZ repository on that one site down. Dunno what the deal with that is too.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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i would buy it, since it has good specs, and with custom roms you will have support for quite some time in future, i hope
1 GB of ram for me is enough, i don't play games on it, and after greenify hibernates apps, i got around 400 - 450 mb free, rom is latest vanir rom 4.3.1. dated 26.10.2013., and i am also using killjoy script
phone works really good, only little problem is with baseband_xmm_power wakelock, but devs are working on that and slow but surely this problem is getting reduced
camera is good for taking pictures, at least for me
i would only like that lock key is on the right side, current position is little awkward, but you get used to it
that's it from me

Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
More replies please.

Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?

Flying_Bear said:
Its showing its age, esp since its an lg device. Wait for nexus 5?
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Would love to have one, but they're pretty expensive for me.
After some 'extensive' research, I have finally found the Xperia ZR. Maybe I might get it once the price drops (next year perhaps). Had earlier found the Optimus G to my liking, but I just dislike the glass back and front . Well, both have CM support which is a good thing for me
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Do not buy this phone. I repeat DO NOT!
Battery life sucks, and it gets hot. It is a fricking smart frying pan. Seriously you can cook an egg on it. And it lags oh boy it lags like hell.
A good phone shouldn't need this much optimization to work better. I tried every CM, kernel etc but either you get good battery life and ****ty gaming performance or you get good performance and horrible battery life (like 2-3 hours max).
Get Optimus G or S3 but don't get this.

darthbii said:
Sorry if threads like this are not allowed or if I'm posting in the wrong section...
I need some opinions here. I am coming from a Galaxy Wonder and I would like an upgrade. Have currently earmarked this device on top of my wishlist. I would like to know if this phone's tech is able to last around 2-3 years.
I'm particularly concerned about the 1 GB RAM this phone has. Is 1 GB enough?
Thanks in advance guys.
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If you can get it for a good price and are willing to root and customize it, it's probably the best bang for a buck you can get at the moment.
The IPS screen is simply gorgeous. It's even more pleasing to the eye than my HTC One LCD screen if you ask me my honest opinion. Yes, it tends to drain the battery heavily, but with the right configuration you can get over 3 and even 4 hours of screen time easily. Oh, and I can't seem to get any scratches on it. Impressive since I don't use a case or any kind of screen protection and carry it around in my pocket all day. Only downside: fingerprints!
I like it's design and build quality. Even though it's all plastic, it neither feels nor looks (too) cheap. More important: all the buttons are in the right place for me. The ridged back provides some extra grip and looks quite OK (from a distance ) and so does the fake metal finish on the sides. It has to be the best fake metal in the business because it's still intact after dropping on my bathroom floor twice.
My biggest issue with this phone (besides being ignored by LG) has to be the sound quality. The silly speaker on the back is nearly useless when the phone is laying down. Picking it up doesn't improve anything.
I can't really comment on this phone's gaming capabilities. I don't really use my phone for that, sorry.
The only alternative I would consider in your position would be the Nexus 4. You should be able to pick it up for a fair price once Google releases the Nexus 5.
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Tough call
darthbii said:
Thanks for the replies guys.
Hmm.... really now debating which to get 4X HD or S3 really a tough decision. I would want the 4X HD as I'm just a little bored of Samsung, but the S3 looks like will get better dev support. Its hard.
More replies please.
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The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.

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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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If you don't mind me asking what GPS tweaks have you done?
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Sorry about the double post the xda app isn't playing well with my phone
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.

frankie_p said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325033
I got this link from this discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886999
I suggest you read all of the posts, make a nandroid backup and test. The one I ended installing was the agps.patch.google.build.nossl.v3.1 as suggested in the tread, and it did improve the GPS performance of my device.
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Oh I already did this a while back and now use topNTP from the play store to install it lol. I asked because even with thid I can only get about 4-6 satellites in about 15 mins
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frankie_p said:
The main reason I went for this device was due to price. If price wouldn't matter, then the Galaxy S3 is a better device IMHO. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my device, but since I am using custom ROM's to have JB 4.2.2 there are some things you need to accept if you use custom ROM's (LG has not had the decency to release a JB 4.2.2 ROM
1- Camera: 3rd party cameras using flash and auto focus have issues on custom ROM's not based on stock.
2- BT can be temperamental if you are on custom ROM's
3- The f****** wakelocks that just came out of nowhere on my device are driving me nuts and killing my battery
4- Gaming is a mixed bag depending on the game.
5- External storage can be problematic if for example you are on a custom ROM and try to sync 2000+ songs (17GB's) with Media Monkey.
6- Audio: This really pisses me off... I listen A LOT to music on my devices, and I use different types of good headphones like AKG 450's or some Senheissers PX-200's and the audio chipset on this thing is pathetic, read the review about it on PhonesArena. Even more frustrating is the fact that with the AKG 450's, every time I connect the headphones, the line gets a permanent noise that was not there before. I tested the headphones extensively to make sure they were no broken, and they are fine on all other type of devices except my P880.
On a positive side, it is smooth on most of the ROM's I tried, I like how it looks, it's quite sturdy, GPS works like a charm (after a few tweaks of course); the speaker is ok, the camera when it works is ok; the community is good; the specs are good; All the good ROM's and stuff is relatively recent since it took a while for the bootloader to unlocked and not that many devs were on board. It looks way better than the SGS3 which BTW also have a TON of issues, which is why I went for the P880. Overall, the issues I listed will be sorted by the great devs that have this device, but LG is not doing itself any favours by not releasing updates more often.
So, yes, I do love it, but I will definitely update in less than 2 years to another device. No more LG for me, thank you very much until they learn to support their devices or I would just get a Nexus device.
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lol this is disaster mine is just fine. the real disadvantage of this phone is only the low bitrate and framerate of the camera , but thats just how the lg made it. we cant change the hardware. besides that my phone works fine

So you are saying that:
- 3rd party cameras with autofocus and flash are working fine using a custom ROM as in CM based ROM? Which one please? so I can try it.
- No wakelocks at all? What kernel are you using and how do you use your phone? Gaming?, Internet (WIFI/3G) on all the time? FB/Tweeter/G+ on with auto updates all the time?
- Connecting to a car's BT to stream music works ALL the time?
- You can syncronize more than 10GB's in one go to the external microSD with no issues ALL the time?
You must be using either a stock ROM or one based on a stock ROM.

I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one

N4R4Y4N said:
I also am thinking about buying this phone...
I own a Desire HD and i think that it would be a huge upgrade anyways.
The battery is not a problem i think:
1)U can root and install custom roms and it would be better as almost every phone
2)It's removable so you can always get a extended one
What i would like to ask you and have your opinion guys is it would be a bit wiser to get the L9 II instead of this one
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this forum is for optimux 4x so i can only say about that one. the camera is bad. the bitrate and fps are low. so have in mind that and choose. about other phones u can check them in their forum. the reason is... because we dont own them all xD

What Lag?

I'm tired of so many reviews and people saying that the s5 is lagging. I'm not getting any lag on my s5 or any s5 I've played with. I'm starting to feel that people are just picking on the s5 because it's become cool to hate on samsung. Every little thing about the s5 has been hated on. I'm finding it absolutely pathetic. Am I the only one that feels like this?

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I'm tired of so many reviews and people saying that the s5 is lagging. I'm not getting any lag on my s5 or any s5 I've played with. I'm starting to feel that people are just picking on the s5 because it's become cool to hate on samsung. Every little thing about the s5 has been hated on. I'm finding it absolutely pathetic. Am I the only one that feels like this?
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I feel the same. Unfortunately, it's what happens to any company that's on top -- they'll always nitpick every little detail. Personally, I haven't experienced any lag either. To some people a few milliseconds of a delay is considered lag and they can't stand it and feel the need to complain about it. What I really find annoying are those who have already switched to a different device, like the M8, but continue complaining about the S5 in these forums. They're either complaining about lag or not having root...it's one or the other...or both.

I can feel the speed compared to my S4. But, it honestly just feels like a refined S4, like a S4.5 but I'm happy either way.

The device does lag... it's annoying. When first setting it up though it's fast as hell but once it's settled in it just becomes a lag fest
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People see what they want to see. Lag is perception. For one guy he may see no lag, the next will play with the same device and find a ton of lag.
I have owned every Samsung Galaxy device since the S2, and I can tell you that the S5 has some lag. It is greatly improved over the S4, but it does have lag.

Lag threads happen with every phone release. Not all phones are created equal, so some of the reports are probably true. Touchwiz can create lag in some cases and sometimes there are just bad phones or bad firmware flashes. That being said, I think a lot of it comes from people that have rival phones and they want to make themselves feel better by bad-mouthing the competition.

I wish I could say I agree with you, but not in the case of my device and XP. whatever the word means to you, to me the phone has 'lag'.
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Just as silly are threads of people proclaiming if they don't see it then it doesn't exist . And then convincing themselves it's because others are jealous or discriminating because it's made by a certain manufacturer
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No lag yet
I personally have not experienced any lag with my S5. Lag can come from many different places like unwanted apps, ATT bloatware! I have disabled all of that stuff. Coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, the S5 is a speed monster. Not that the Nexus was a terrible phone, but it can have fits of lag...even rooted with a custom rom. Hopefully someone will gain root to our S5 variant soon!

Almost humorous
To all those posting here complaining about "Lag" didn't you do any research before you bought it? didn't you go to the store and test it out? If you don't like the device take it back, you have 14 days to return it. I can sit here and compare this device to every device i have Dev'd for over the years and I can tell you this there is NO DEVICE MADE that doesn't have "lag" somewhere is part of the flaws of being designed and built by the human race, a very imperfect human race i might add. instead of posts like "It does Lag and it's annoying" how about a post with some logcats or detailed step by step methods to recreate the "Lag". As a developer I can tell you this there is nothing more annoying than people pissing and moaning and picking apart something and providing absolutely ZERO proof, ZERO reproducable steps, ZERO help, ZERO willingness to participate in any kind of troubleshooting.
Just my opinion, now that i have called you out on this, got some proof? a logcat? steps to reproduce? what app? did you try that app developers support site?

I have loaded about 100 apps and have multiple email accounts messenger apps and other services running and I get no lag at all. I think some people out there just got ****ty units and they're upset
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Coming from a Nexus 5, while the phone is smooth in almost every other respect, there is absolutely lag when bringing up the app switcher and dialing a number through the phone app. Coincidence that both of these apps are heavily skinned by Samsung? Anyway, I love the phone in every other respect, but I want the phone app and app switcher from the Nexus line.

Yea no lag here. I like the phone better than my note 3. Better reception lte speeds. Good job samsung.
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The lag is there, whether you want to admit it or not. There are delays of up to a few seconds for things as mundane as launching the camera or going from the camera to the gallery. Every single Samsung device with touchwiz had had them and people desperate to justify the purchase of their new Samsung phones always try to deny it.
Comparing it side-by-side with my Note 3 that I still have (and it still on 4.3), the Note 3 is actually snappier in some places, which is sad. Touchwiz needs some serious optimization and no amount of denial or fanboyism is going to change that.
Don't get me wrong: I like the phone. But I also don't have blinders on. I have turned off every animation or setting I can find that I think might be slowing the phone and there are still some really annoying delays. Nova fixed some of the launcher delays, but there are others.

greyhulk said:
The lag is there, whether you want to admit it or not. There are delays of up to a few seconds for things as mundane as launching the camera or going from the camera to the gallery. Every single Samsung device with touchwiz had had them and people desperate to justify the purchase of their new Samsung phones always try to deny it.
Comparing it side-by-side with my Note 3 that I still have (and it still on 4.3), the Note 3 is actually snappier in some places, which is sad. Touchwiz needs some serious optimization and no amount of denial or fanboyism is going to change that.
Don't get me wrong: I like the phone. But I also don't have blinders on. I have turned off every animation or setting I can find that I think might be slowing the phone and there are still some really annoying delays. Nova fixed some of the launcher delays, but there are others.
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This. Lag is there whether the fanboyz want to admit it or not. Many just don't know what lag is. The S5 experience is night and day though compared to the S4. Of course last year we had loki and custom roms which took care of the lag.
Now was the best time to re-do TW completely from bottom up. But they chose not to. This is why everyone on AT&T should just get the TMO version, so they can flash roms and not have to deal with this BS.

I've noticed lag in the gallery and sometimes when switching songs on the lock screen. Both my gallery and music are stored on the external SD card. Not sure if that is what is causing the issue. Coming from an S3 I love the screen, and camera difference and the phone is snappy otherwise. I usually had CM variants on my S3 so it takes some getting used to with the TW

Lag-free here, even in camera/gallery/dialer. While I think touchwiz needs to go...this iteration from Samsung is so much better than previous versions. Now if we could get the carrier bloat off these things they would be perfect.

I love my s5 yea some lag but it's very small the same kinda lad that's in the iPhone 5s but this is the best android phone I have had and I had every flag ship phone from sammy htc and every nexus phone, touchwiz is smooth and fast I just don't like the settings menu but everything else is great I haven't even had the urge to root or install a custom ROM even tho we don't have them yet but that's fine for me I'm truly happy with it so far

blackwrx02 said:
Lag-free here, even in camera/gallery/dialer. While I think touchwiz needs to go...this iteration from Samsung is so much better than previous versions. Now if we could get the carrier bloat off these things they would be perfect.
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Camera and gallery are where I've had the most lag. Like multiple seconds to open the camera or go from camera to gallery. I think my gs3 camera was actually faster. I do love it when it works, and it focuses insanely fast, but that initial run takes a bit long.
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natefish said:
Camera and gallery are where I've had the most lag. Like multiple seconds to open the camera or go from camera to gallery. I think my gs3 camera was actually faster. I do love it when it works, and it focuses insanely fast, but that initial run takes a bit long.
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If this is lag for you why don't you use regular camera.
All of You with lag complain do you know what is main priority of phone ...hmmmmm make call maybe. I don't see any lag. I think all of what you experiencing is just more in you heads then anything else. This is normal functionality of phone. Every program before opening have to be process first and this take time sometimes. Good you people not working in NASA and not communication with some robots on Mars, you will complain about lag then...

My personal opinion about Samsung's Lollipop release

I haven't seen much threads like this so I think people seem quite okay with samsungs Lollipop, but for me it seems to be even worse than Kitkat. Let me mention some things.
Wifi;
Nothing seems to work even worse than Wifi for me. I've changed some settings on the router, changed the auto change from 2.4 gHz to 5 to manual, yet I get this problem that the internet is terribly slow at some moments, and it stays there for like 30 minutes(Downloading a simple app from the play store like apex goes with 20 kb/s).
Functionality;
Everything pops in place as I was used to touchwiz, yet I miss the ambient display alot! Its the function that was very usefull on the stock Lollipop update, but yet Samsung decided to not add it to their software.
Performance;
Even while Antutu tells me my phone improved with the update, I can't see it back. some things just seem to be sluggish at some moments. Like the well known recent button problem which I don't really want to discuss as it is known. But also just opening the menu just seems to go with around 15-20 fps for me(Which just looks sluggish).
Now that might just be Eye candy, but I've installed "Sky Force" from the play store, and even that lags when too much happends in the game.
Batterylife;
From 7:00 AM to 19:00 PM I loose around 60-65% battery, I use my phone as a media player, got it connected with a Moto 360 and sometimes I play a game on it, check Facebook. Just the normal stuff I guess, yet I think this is way too much for my daily use, Battery stats pulls it on the Android system, and BBS doesn't seem to give clear answers to me, as there are crucial wakelocks happening which cannot be frozen.
The looks;
Now this is just something personal, as Touchwiz always had the look of a toy in a store with a big red button on it saying "Try me", I still do not prefer its new looks. Everything looks flat and all those colours just make me have a rainbow phone or something. Simply do not like it, but again; its personal.
Now where am I comparing this with?
As I've always used the note series, I remember my Note 2 being a beast of a phone, then after that the note 3 was impressive too.
When I had the Note 3, all I heared from people was the device being slow cause of bloatware, which never were a problem to me honostly. In these days Samsungs seems to try to improve that but I can simply not see it.
Also I've installed CM12 on the device, and when I see how butter smooth everything runs, switching from task to task, opening the menu. The expirience just enchances my idea of android. Yet it causes me to be limited with functions I cannot use.
Conclusion;
I always have thought that Samsungs software was ment to work better with their devices, but now I expirience the opposite. CM12 seems to work better for me, but yet I want to make use of the pen, pop up window and some s-health features.
So how do you think about the difference, I am curious how others think about my statements, and how you expirience CM12 <---> Touchwiz.

That's just the love hate relationship that most of us have with touchwiz. Love the extra features it offers over stock but hate the bloated memory hog with inconsistent performance it can be with even the most powerful hardware running it.
My Moto X 2014 lollipop is far smoother, faster, vastly more memory efficient allowing more apps to be open without refreshing content - and this is despite having slower processor, less ram and earlier version of Lollipop (5.0 v 5.0.1)
So yeah touchwiz annoys me, but as you say it offers some great additions over stock android that make you often overlook much of its uglier moments.

My Personal Opinion On This Thread That I'm Not Intrested In Buggy Lollipop Firmware I'm Happy With KK
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It's indeed strange this "update" release. I updated my n910f through Odin to Lollipop and also think to go back to KK again but for now I'm gonna keep Lollipop a little more and hope Samsung briefly release a "definitve" Lollipop update.

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zabumba said:
It's indeed strange this "update" release. I updated my n910f through Odin to Lollipop and also think to go back to KK again but for now I'm gonna keep Lollipop a little more and hope Samsung briefly release a "definitve" Lollipop update.
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Armazia said:
I haven't seen much threads like this so I think people seem quite okay with samsungs Lollipop, but for me it seems to be even worse than Kitkat. Let me mention some things.
Wifi;
Nothing seems to work even worse than Wifi for me. I've changed some settings on the router, changed the auto change from 2.4 gHz to 5 to manual, yet I get this problem that the internet is terribly slow at some moments, and it stays there for like 30 minutes(Downloading a simple app from the play store like apex goes with 20 kb/s).
Functionality;
Everything pops in place as I was used to touchwiz, yet I miss the ambient display alot! Its the function that was very usefull on the stock Lollipop update, but yet Samsung decided to not add it to their software.
Performance;
Even while Antutu tells me my phone improved with the update, I can't see it back. some things just seem to be sluggish at some moments. Like the well known recent button problem which I don't really want to discuss as it is known. But also just opening the menu just seems to go with around 15-20 fps for me(Which just looks sluggish).
Now that might just be Eye candy, but I've installed "Sky Force" from the play store, and even that lags when too much happends in the game.
Batterylife;
From 7:00 AM to 19:00 PM I loose around 60-65% battery, I use my phone as a media player, got it connected with a Moto 360 and sometimes I play a game on it, check Facebook. Just the normal stuff I guess, yet I think this is way too much for my daily use, Battery stats pulls it on the Android system, and BBS doesn't seem to give clear answers to me, as there are crucial wakelocks happening which cannot be frozen.
The looks;
Now this is just something personal, as Touchwiz always had the look of a toy in a store with a big red button on it saying "Try me", I still do not prefer its new looks. Everything looks flat and all those colours just make me have a rainbow phone or something. Simply do not like it, but again; its personal.
Now where am I comparing this with?
As I've always used the note series, I remember my Note 2 being a beast of a phone, then after that the note 3 was impressive too.
When I had the Note 3, all I heared from people was the device being slow cause of bloatware, which never were a problem to me honostly. In these days Samsungs seems to try to improve that but I can simply not see it.
Also I've installed CM12 on the device, and when I see how butter smooth everything runs, switching from task to task, opening the menu. The expirience just enchances my idea of android. Yet it causes me to be limited with functions I cannot use.
Conclusion;
I always have thought that Samsungs software was ment to work better with their devices, but now I expirience the opposite. CM12 seems to work better for me, but yet I want to make use of the pen, pop up window and some s-health features.
So how do you think about the difference, I am curious how others think about my statements, and how you expirience CM12 <---> Touchwiz.
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Hey dude!!
Nice work here.
Please, can you tell me where did you find the CM 12 to our Note 4 N910C?
I´d like to install, but i can´t find to download.
Thank you!

renanterzi said:
Hey dude!!
Nice work here.
Please, can you tell me where did you find the CM 12 to our Note 4 N910C?
I´d like to install, but i can´t find to download.
Thank you!
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I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)

Armazia said:
I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)
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Ok man.
Thanks any way!

Armazia said:
I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)
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It's also available for the 910T and 910W8

renanterzi said:
Ok man.
Thanks any way!
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Exynos variants very early builds are being developed by RaymanFX, but we're still far from daily-driver level.

KK is stable for me. I will wait for few more months until bugs have been sorted out.
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