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Trading my galaxy nexus for a Note

A friend of mine gives me the possibility to trade my galaxy nexus for his galaly note, I like the display and the s pen but I would lost the "nexus" support...I can't decide,what would you do?
p.s. with the galaxy nexus i can get 3h 30min of screen on,what about note?

@BurningKoala I had GNexus for some time (app developing) and it's a great phone, but I'm glad I chose the Note over it.
Disadvantages are SO & Hardware optimization (Note's fast and reliable but nothing rivals Nexus) and, maybe, size. If you are considering the Note, size might not be a problem to you. The huge screen is also it's main advantage; for navigation or reading it's just a BIG jump. I really enjoy it. There's a reason why new phones are getting near the Note's screen size...
About battery, it's not as good as the Note II but comparable to that of the GNexus. You'll get trough the day with a lot of use without problems.
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BurningKoala said:
A friend of mine gives me the possibility to trade my galaxy nexus for his galaly note, I like the display and the s pen but I would lost the "nexus" support...I can't decide,what would you do?
p.s. with the galaxy nexus i can get 3h 30min of screen on,what about note?
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You will feel the difference in smoothness if you intend to keep it stock. But coming from a nexus i don't think you will have any problems with CM or AOSP roms, wich are much faster than Samsung Touchwiz.
Go for it and do the trade
You won't regret it

Stay with the Nexus - the support from Samsung on the Note is terrible. The recent Jelly Bean update to the Note is a disaster, it is VERY slow. Laggy everywhere, ugly, unintuitive compared to AOSP.
Want to use the S-pen? Use the S-Note app which lags like hell. When you draw with it then it jumps, also the s-pen is not calibrated properly (you can get a payed app to calibrate it properly)
Want to phone someone? Press the phone icon on your launcher, wait 5s, then get a laggy animation and then wait another 5s for the phone to load.
Want to perform a factory reset on ICS? Do so and after that you will brick your phone. If you flash a kernel then there is a possibility you will loose your guarantee.
Want to get TW 4.2.2? Forget about it, it won't happen.
Want AOSP on it? Sure we have it. Some very good ROM's... it's a shame that Samsung hasn't released the exynos source code EVEN THOUGH they said they would by the end of of 2012. This means many developers are leaving the exynos based devices and we won't get as much support on new android versions. Also we have a broken hwcomposer meaning it has not got projet butter. And you can certainly see this.
Want to watch a movie on your phone? Great! watch how all yopur greys are replaced with pitch black, imagine what a horror movie looks like on our screen now. That is what the balck clipping/black crush issue is with it.
Anything good about the phone? Well... It has a nice screen size, that's it in my eyes.

XxPixX said:
Stay with the Nexus - the support from Samsung on the Note is terrible. The recent Jelly Bean update to the Note is a disaster, it is VERY slow. Laggy everywhere, ugly, unintuitive compared to AOSP.
Want to use the S-pen? Use the S-Note app which lags like hell. When you draw with it then it jumps, also the s-pen is not calibrated properly (you can get a payed app to calibrate it properly)
Want to phone someone? Press the phone icon on your launcher, wait 5s, then get a laggy animation and then wait another 5s for the phone to load.
Want to perform a factory reset on ICS? Do so and after that you will brick your phone. If you flash a kernel then there is a possibility you will loose your guarantee.
Want to get TW 4.2.2? Forget about it, it won't happen.
Want AOSP on it? Sure we have it. Some very good ROM's... it's a shame that Samsung hasn't released the exynos source code EVEN THOUGH they said they would by the end of of 2012. This means many developers are leaving the exynos based devices and we won't get as much support on new android versions. Also we have a broken hwcomposer meaning it has not got projet butter. And you can certainly see this.
Want to watch a movie on your phone? Great! watch how all yopur greys are replaced with pitch black, imagine what a horror movie looks like on our screen now. That is what the balck clipping/black crush issue is with it.
Anything good about the phone? Well... It has a nice screen size, that's it in my eyes.
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Wow... seems like we have two completely different phones.
I can't agree with 80% of what you say. Sadly the emmc brick bug is there, and there will never be enough soft&hw support from Samsung to get us all pleased, but hey...
- JB runs GREAT on this phone, the failure is the update process which ruins everything. Do a clean one and is as fast and estable as it should.
- No lag in phone app. 1 or 2 secs, maybe? Surely NOT 5 seconds. Again: JB clean installation?
- Not liking S-Note? Well, S-pen utility sure doesn't end there. Have 5 drawing apps which I just can't imagine myself using them without the S-Pen (calibrated, by the way, with simple rooting and easy tweaking).
- Black clipping problem, just for your information, is also present in the GNexus as it is in every pentile HD amoled screen. Maybe not as hard, but it is there. Check it for yourself.
- Assuming you want to live flashing new roms, you might get affected by the unreleasing of exynos source code. I never got affected by it, most surely will never be.
- And then, there comes the big screen: Gaming, browsing, typing, reading, showing pictures, watching videos... it is like half a tablet in your everyday life, which in terms of use to me changes EVERYTHING.
Don't get me wrong, you have all the right to be unhappy with any device in the world, but those words seemed like facts when they are not really that objective. As you can see, I didn't say Note was better than GNexus: I just offered my perspective, which is a really pleasant one.
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My decision will be the same, nexus 5 or note 3
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Drummyman said:
- JB runs GREAT on this phone, the failure is the update process which ruins everything. Do a clean one and is as fast and estable as it should.
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Trust me, I wouldn't be too surprised if I has flashed over 300 times on my phone. Maybe even 500. I know how to perform a full wipe and proper install, also I NEVER have a bloated device. i try to keep as little apps as possible (usually about 15 user apps, nearly all from google). What did I realise after about 3 days of use? The phone got very slow and laggy. Not even restarts helped.
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- No lag in phone app. 1 or 2 secs, maybe? Surely NOT 5 seconds. Again: JB clean installation?
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Clear the phone out of the memory, then you will see how slow it is. With me it is usually not in memory because I don't use it that much.
Certainly 5s after a clean install, add another 5s after you have installed a couple of apps.
Drummyman said:
- Not liking S-Note? Well, S-pen utility sure doesn't end there. Have 5 drawing apps which I just can't imagine myself using them without the S-Pen (calibrated, by the way, with simple rooting and easy tweaking).
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Although rooting is very easy on this phone, we should have had an already calibrated S-pen. As for alternative apps then yes, they do work. My favourite is Papyrus. However the samsung apps are real memory and CPU hoggers. When I was making my own ROM (Bare Bean) then the S-apps probably took up at least 150Mb... and I ask, on what? Alternative apps from google play take up 10x less space offering better functionality and speed.
Drummyman said:
- Assuming you want to live flashing new roms, you might get affected by the unreleasing of exynos source code. I never got affected by it, most surely will never be.
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You will be affected by it in a short while, once you say "hey, I want that feature of Android in Jelly Bean 4.3"
Drummyman said:
- And then, there comes the big screen: Gaming, browsing, typing, reading, showing pictures, watching videos... it is like half a tablet in your everyday life, which in terms of use to me changes EVERYTHING.
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Yes, the screen is nice. I must admit that... however that is one of the few things Samsung couldn't break after time with software updates.

I don't know, so many flashing overwhelms me. But I'm in Philz rooted stock spanish 4.1.2 LSZ, without removing any bloatware or anything touched (only rooted to calibrate s-pen and opened multiwindow to any app) and I can assure you my Note goes fluid, with no battery drains and there's no 5 second lag ANYWHERE. No restarting needed.
Sometimes, I get the feeling that removing too many - apparently harmless - stock rom apps and system files, causes unknown side effects. I really encourage rom developers, though - and I will not be praising Samsung work - BUT there's a lot of testing involved in stock roms that always make me more confident about them. In every phone I had, maximum estability and less problems have always been stock roms. Only talking about my own experience.
Good thing about Nexuses: Stock roms are always clean android, directly from OS developer.
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And a new flaming thread just started
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XxPixX said:
Trust me, I wouldn't be too surprised if I has flashed over 300 times on my phone. Maybe even 500. I know how to perform a full wipe and proper install, also I NEVER have a bloated device. i try to keep as little apps as possible (usually about 15 user apps, nearly all from google). What did I realise after about 3 days of use? The phone got very slow and laggy. Not even restarts helped.
Clear the phone out of the memory, then you will see how slow it is. With me it is usually not in memory because I don't use it that much.
Certainly 5s after a clean install, add another 5s after you have installed a couple of apps.
Although rooting is very easy on this phone, we should have had an already calibrated S-pen. As for alternative apps then yes, they do work. My favourite is Papyrus. However the samsung apps are real memory and CPU hoggers. When I was making my own ROM (Bare Bean) then the S-apps probably took up at least 150Mb... and I ask, on what? Alternative apps from google play take up 10x less space offering better functionality and speed.
You will be affected by it in a short while, once you say "hey, I want that feature of Android in Jelly Bean 4.3"
Yes, the screen is nice. I must admit that... however that is one of the few things Samsung couldn't break after time with software updates.
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You should change YOUR Galaxy Note with his Nexus then
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What Lag?

I'm tired of so many reviews and people saying that the s5 is lagging. I'm not getting any lag on my s5 or any s5 I've played with. I'm starting to feel that people are just picking on the s5 because it's become cool to hate on samsung. Every little thing about the s5 has been hated on. I'm finding it absolutely pathetic. Am I the only one that feels like this?

the co0kie said:
I'm tired of so many reviews and people saying that the s5 is lagging. I'm not getting any lag on my s5 or any s5 I've played with. I'm starting to feel that people are just picking on the s5 because it's become cool to hate on samsung. Every little thing about the s5 has been hated on. I'm finding it absolutely pathetic. Am I the only one that feels like this?
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I feel the same. Unfortunately, it's what happens to any company that's on top -- they'll always nitpick every little detail. Personally, I haven't experienced any lag either. To some people a few milliseconds of a delay is considered lag and they can't stand it and feel the need to complain about it. What I really find annoying are those who have already switched to a different device, like the M8, but continue complaining about the S5 in these forums. They're either complaining about lag or not having root...it's one or the other...or both.

I can feel the speed compared to my S4. But, it honestly just feels like a refined S4, like a S4.5 but I'm happy either way.

The device does lag... it's annoying. When first setting it up though it's fast as hell but once it's settled in it just becomes a lag fest
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People see what they want to see. Lag is perception. For one guy he may see no lag, the next will play with the same device and find a ton of lag.
I have owned every Samsung Galaxy device since the S2, and I can tell you that the S5 has some lag. It is greatly improved over the S4, but it does have lag.

Lag threads happen with every phone release. Not all phones are created equal, so some of the reports are probably true. Touchwiz can create lag in some cases and sometimes there are just bad phones or bad firmware flashes. That being said, I think a lot of it comes from people that have rival phones and they want to make themselves feel better by bad-mouthing the competition.

I wish I could say I agree with you, but not in the case of my device and XP. whatever the word means to you, to me the phone has 'lag'.
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Just as silly are threads of people proclaiming if they don't see it then it doesn't exist . And then convincing themselves it's because others are jealous or discriminating because it's made by a certain manufacturer
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No lag yet
I personally have not experienced any lag with my S5. Lag can come from many different places like unwanted apps, ATT bloatware! I have disabled all of that stuff. Coming from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, the S5 is a speed monster. Not that the Nexus was a terrible phone, but it can have fits of lag...even rooted with a custom rom. Hopefully someone will gain root to our S5 variant soon!

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To all those posting here complaining about "Lag" didn't you do any research before you bought it? didn't you go to the store and test it out? If you don't like the device take it back, you have 14 days to return it. I can sit here and compare this device to every device i have Dev'd for over the years and I can tell you this there is NO DEVICE MADE that doesn't have "lag" somewhere is part of the flaws of being designed and built by the human race, a very imperfect human race i might add. instead of posts like "It does Lag and it's annoying" how about a post with some logcats or detailed step by step methods to recreate the "Lag". As a developer I can tell you this there is nothing more annoying than people pissing and moaning and picking apart something and providing absolutely ZERO proof, ZERO reproducable steps, ZERO help, ZERO willingness to participate in any kind of troubleshooting.
Just my opinion, now that i have called you out on this, got some proof? a logcat? steps to reproduce? what app? did you try that app developers support site?

I have loaded about 100 apps and have multiple email accounts messenger apps and other services running and I get no lag at all. I think some people out there just got ****ty units and they're upset
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Coming from a Nexus 5, while the phone is smooth in almost every other respect, there is absolutely lag when bringing up the app switcher and dialing a number through the phone app. Coincidence that both of these apps are heavily skinned by Samsung? Anyway, I love the phone in every other respect, but I want the phone app and app switcher from the Nexus line.

Yea no lag here. I like the phone better than my note 3. Better reception lte speeds. Good job samsung.
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The lag is there, whether you want to admit it or not. There are delays of up to a few seconds for things as mundane as launching the camera or going from the camera to the gallery. Every single Samsung device with touchwiz had had them and people desperate to justify the purchase of their new Samsung phones always try to deny it.
Comparing it side-by-side with my Note 3 that I still have (and it still on 4.3), the Note 3 is actually snappier in some places, which is sad. Touchwiz needs some serious optimization and no amount of denial or fanboyism is going to change that.
Don't get me wrong: I like the phone. But I also don't have blinders on. I have turned off every animation or setting I can find that I think might be slowing the phone and there are still some really annoying delays. Nova fixed some of the launcher delays, but there are others.

greyhulk said:
The lag is there, whether you want to admit it or not. There are delays of up to a few seconds for things as mundane as launching the camera or going from the camera to the gallery. Every single Samsung device with touchwiz had had them and people desperate to justify the purchase of their new Samsung phones always try to deny it.
Comparing it side-by-side with my Note 3 that I still have (and it still on 4.3), the Note 3 is actually snappier in some places, which is sad. Touchwiz needs some serious optimization and no amount of denial or fanboyism is going to change that.
Don't get me wrong: I like the phone. But I also don't have blinders on. I have turned off every animation or setting I can find that I think might be slowing the phone and there are still some really annoying delays. Nova fixed some of the launcher delays, but there are others.
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This. Lag is there whether the fanboyz want to admit it or not. Many just don't know what lag is. The S5 experience is night and day though compared to the S4. Of course last year we had loki and custom roms which took care of the lag.
Now was the best time to re-do TW completely from bottom up. But they chose not to. This is why everyone on AT&T should just get the TMO version, so they can flash roms and not have to deal with this BS.

I've noticed lag in the gallery and sometimes when switching songs on the lock screen. Both my gallery and music are stored on the external SD card. Not sure if that is what is causing the issue. Coming from an S3 I love the screen, and camera difference and the phone is snappy otherwise. I usually had CM variants on my S3 so it takes some getting used to with the TW

Lag-free here, even in camera/gallery/dialer. While I think touchwiz needs to go...this iteration from Samsung is so much better than previous versions. Now if we could get the carrier bloat off these things they would be perfect.

I love my s5 yea some lag but it's very small the same kinda lad that's in the iPhone 5s but this is the best android phone I have had and I had every flag ship phone from sammy htc and every nexus phone, touchwiz is smooth and fast I just don't like the settings menu but everything else is great I haven't even had the urge to root or install a custom ROM even tho we don't have them yet but that's fine for me I'm truly happy with it so far

blackwrx02 said:
Lag-free here, even in camera/gallery/dialer. While I think touchwiz needs to go...this iteration from Samsung is so much better than previous versions. Now if we could get the carrier bloat off these things they would be perfect.
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Camera and gallery are where I've had the most lag. Like multiple seconds to open the camera or go from camera to gallery. I think my gs3 camera was actually faster. I do love it when it works, and it focuses insanely fast, but that initial run takes a bit long.
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natefish said:
Camera and gallery are where I've had the most lag. Like multiple seconds to open the camera or go from camera to gallery. I think my gs3 camera was actually faster. I do love it when it works, and it focuses insanely fast, but that initial run takes a bit long.
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If this is lag for you why don't you use regular camera.
All of You with lag complain do you know what is main priority of phone ...hmmmmm make call maybe. I don't see any lag. I think all of what you experiencing is just more in you heads then anything else. This is normal functionality of phone. Every program before opening have to be process first and this take time sometimes. Good you people not working in NASA and not communication with some robots on Mars, you will complain about lag then...

[Q] What's the fuss about Lollipop??

Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.

+1

but... but material... and ART...
j/k, honestly I'm waiting to try it mostly because of the lockscreen notifications and the status bar changing colors (lol)
and honestly in the Moto G WhatsApp group I noticed that mostly indians are super hyped for Lollipop, for some weird reason

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I guess lots of white and wasted ui space is the in thing right now. That along with lengthy animations. I am sorry to say this but take a look at the XDA website forums on pc you will understand what I mean.
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Exactly!
me_ankit said:
I guess lots of white and wasted ui space is the in thing right now. That along with lengthy animations. I am sorry to say this but take a look at the XDA website forums on pc you will understand what I mean.
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:good: I hear ya! Exactly my point. So I will stay on Kit-Kat and avoid Lollipop. I am hoping somebody will develop a nice Kit-Kat based custom ROM and/or kernel that will allow overclocking. I'm not an Android developer so I am not able to do so. But I am really quite happy with things as they are so I won't lose any sleep over it.
Thanks for your feedback.

I have to admit I was pretty excited for Lollipop but with some of the developments over the past few days such as the, IMO, inferior lockscreen (having to swipe to input the pattern/PIN) it's put a slight dampener on it, I'm still going to upgrade but I'm not going to rush first day it comes out.
And just found out they have removed the Normal, Vibrate and Silent toggles when you long press the power button, that's annoying!

Yup as you guys said, we Indians sure are excited. I'm just speaking for myself here, and not generalizing, but I do love the new design of Lollipop. IMO, KitKat had a very boring, flat design, which I always used to cover it up with some CM Themes with my old mobile. Whereas the new design gives a breath of fresh air to the OS, which I think Android greatly needed.
As for ART, what you feel or see is mainly just placebo on kitkat. In a sense I really don't think it makes much difference with 4.4.
Disclaimer: I maybe wrong here. Just quoting my experience.
So in short the OS is new, the design is beautiful and a complete overhaul, some new awesome features that weren't available on stock before, and other minor tid-bits are basically the reason why we, a bunch of android nerds (i'm saying this in a positive way) are excited when a new OS gets released.

pastorbob62 said:
Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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The Moto G 2014 has no custom ROMs out for it yet. We were stuck with the boring, rooted stock. We couldn't use a theme to make it look something like Lollipop. Instead, we used GravityBox.
Customs ROMs give much more than GravityBox since GravityBox cannot fulfill most of the things we all like about customs ROMs. Lollipop fixed a good amount of the small problems we had with stock 4.4.4; along with a new design and fluent animations. So we all hopped on the Lollipop train because there were no custom ROMs.
Now, had there been PA available for the Moto G 2014, I would have waited until there was a Lollipop version of PA.

well said!! We lack development and thus lollipop will give us a refreshed look...

I dont know, why do we still lack the much needed developments
However, on a bright note. take a look at the moto x 2014 dev section.
Much barer and scarce then here. lol
So Im not much disappointed xD

I'm most interested in projct volta. Read a test these days about lollipop on nexus 5, they increased screen on time about nearly 30 %. Not bad in my opinion...

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The Moto G 2014 has no custom ROMs out for it yet. We were stuck with the boring, rooted stock. We couldn't use a theme to make it look something like Lollipop. Instead, we used GravityBox.
Customs ROMs give much more than GravityBox since GravityBox cannot fulfill most of the things we all like about customs ROMs. Lollipop fixed a good amount of the small problems we had with stock 4.4.4; along with a new design and fluent animations. So we all hopped on the Lollipop train because there were no custom ROMs.
Now, had there been PA available for the Moto G 2014, I would have waited until there was a Lollipop version of PA.
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I agree that custom ROM development is totally lacking with this phone. But I disagree that Lollipop fills any void. As far as Lollipop fixing any problems , I guess that is based on one's own experience and I have not had any problems at all with 4.4.4. That is my whole point, Lollipop does not bring enough of ANYTING to inspire me to upgrade. I don't find 4.4.4 boring at all, I don't have any "problems" running it or using any of the apps I need, and it is very fast and responsive for me.
All of that said I do realize that we all use our phones in different ways that may make Lollipop appealing to many. It just isn't all that for me. Hopefully some motivated developers will come up with some decent custom ROM's for Kit-Kat. But until that happens I am sticking with the stock version I am currently running.

I've got Lollipop on my Moto G and I'm not particularly impressed.
-Unlocking takes longer.
-Pandora lockscreen controls are gone.
-Lockscreen notifications are not what I hoped for. If I get one text it will show some information about the texts. If I get 3 texts it just says I got 3 texts. So I have to unlock the phone anyways, and that takes longer.
-App-specific notification settings don't seem to work. I keep getting daily Subway Surfer notifications even though I turned them off.
-I DO like how the lockscreen camera controls are implemented.
Overall lollipop is meh for me. I guess some Android fanbois are like some Apple fanbois. They can't wait for the next thing that Google/Apple gives them, no matter what it is.

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I've got Lollipop on my Moto G and I'm not particularly impressed.
-Unlocking takes longer.
-Pandora lockscreen controls are gone.
-Lockscreen notifications are not what I hoped for. If I get one text it will show some information about the texts. If I get 3 texts it just says I got 3 texts. So I have to unlock the phone anyways, and that takes longer.
-App-specific notification settings don't seem to work. I keep getting daily Subway Surfer notifications even though I turned them off.
-I DO like how the lockscreen camera controls are implemented.
Overall lollipop is meh for me. I guess some Android fanbois are like some Apple fanbois. They can't wait for the next thing that Google/Apple gives them, no matter what it is.
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Okay, this I didn't read in any of the reviews.
-So only pandora lockscreen controls are gone or even play music?
-Hmm, and so we can't even expand those notifications? Maybe there's a setting for it? I don't know lol
-Well I'm sure this bug will get solved....hopefully
Anything else you didn't like?

pastorbob62 said:
Okay guys, I have to ask. I have read numerous posts about Lollipop, including several reviews on several devices. I even tried a custom ROM on my tablet that is Lollipop based. I have to say it, I don't see what all of the fuss is about. I promptly returned to my Kit-Kat based ROM on my tablet, and I have yet to see any pressing reason to upgrade (I use the term loosely) my Moto G 2014 to Lollipop. In fact most of what I have read from those who have has been negative. Okay so there is ART, but I have been running that since I got my phone and on my tablet for 7 months without issues. And from everything I have read, customization is going to be much more difficult with Lollipop.
So tell me, am I just missing something really revolutionary or what?? Is there some dramatic increase in performance or memory efficiency? Or is it simply a matter of just wanting the latest OS. I am truly befuddled by all of the hoopla.
I await enlightenment.
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I agree with some of your points here, but to be honest for me it isn't lollipop that is lacking it is the Moto g, deep in my heart i love this device (mainly because of the battery life) but i don't think i can bare the 1 Gb of memory anymore and lack of development, i think the Nexus 5 got way more improvements and that's where all the excitement is coming from. The Nexus 5 was plagued with bad battery life and sub-par camera, audio latency was still bad (well this was a whole Android thing), etc and lollipop solved that. I think most of the excitement you are hearing is people with Nexus 4s and 5s, also a lot of new api's for developers. Yes there are things Google was retarded on removing, i'm hoping they listen to the community and add them back in 5.0.1. Oh and for what it is worth, for me certain apps on my Moto G would stutter like going into menus etc, like Tinder for instance on lollipop the stuttering is completely gone also i have more free ram and i think the battery life improved a little bit more.
[edit] Okay i take back what i said, i just headed over to the Nexus 5 forum and a lot of negative reviews too. I don't know, i don't really have no complaints of it on the G just wish i had more memory, but i knew what i was getting myself into.

mykenyc said:
I agree with some of your points here, but to be honest for me it isn't lollipop that is lacking it is the Moto g, deep in my heart i love this device (mainly because of the battery life) but i don't think i can bare the 1 Gb of memory anymore and lack of development, i think the Nexus 5 got way more improvements and that's where all the excitement is coming from. The Nexus 5 was plagued with bad battery life and sub-par camera, audio latency was still bad (well this was a whole Android thing), etc and lollipop solved that. I think most of the excitement you are hearing is people with Nexus 4s and 5s, also a lot of new api's for developers. Yes there are things Google was retarded on removing, i'm hoping they listen to the community and add them back in 5.0.1. Oh and for what it is worth, for me certain apps on my Moto G would stutter like going into menus etc, like Tinder for instance on lollipop the stuttering is completely gone also i have more free ram and i think the battery life improved a little bit more.
[edit] Okay i take back what i said, i just headed over to the Nexus 5 forum and a lot of negative reviews too. I don't know, i don't really have no complaints of it on the G just wish i had more memory, but i knew what i was getting myself into.
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The memory issue is a big one for many folks, but I haven't seen any problems (so far) in the six weeks I've had my phone. I don't foresee it becoming a problem since the way I use doesn't tax the memory limits. The most demanding app I use is Hay Day, and it runs quite well. It does crash on occasion but it also crashes on my wife's Galaxy S-4, her TF-700 tablet and my TF-300T tablet as well, so that's an app issue not a device limitation. And I am extremely pleased with the phone performance. It is much improved over my previous phone.
But I can see how the memory would make a difference for many people. And if Lollipop helps then that is a good thing. However, it seems that we are giving up a lot to gain a little.

I was happy with JB & still like it. KK is a little better & I enjoy running it. However I don't care much for L. I tried hard to like it. It has a few features I liked but over all I didn't care for it. I think it is ugly for one & the bugs in 5.0 was driving me crazy.
I went back to KK for now.

I only hope that Lollipop helps bring some development to this phone, because it is really lacking and that is starting to make me want to sell it.

Hakkinan said:
I only hope that Lollipop helps bring some development to this phone, because it is really lacking and that is starting to make me want to sell it.
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I understand your frustration with the lack of development. Overall I am happy with my phone on stock Kit-Kat with it unlocked and rooted. I am able to remove some of the bloat which helps a lot. But it would be nice to see a custom ROM that allows overclocking and tweaking of the system to improve stability.
As it stands, I will stay with Kit-Kat and not upgrade to Lollipop. I have read way too many complaints about it, and as I said earlier, when I tried it on my tablet I was not at all impressed.

Just bought Tab S 10.5 - very dissapointed

I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm an Apple fan boy. I have an iPhone and iPad that run seamlessly. I wanted a little more freedom so I bought a Samsung tab s 10.5. I upgraded to the latest software and am very dissapointed. It is slow, sluggish, laggy, unresponsive, and just isn't in sync with my fingers. Chrome and wifi is like it's running on dial up. Apps Like Fifa 16 run perfect on my iPhone but are so choppy on the tab. VLC videos convulse every 10 seconds or so.
What can I do to speed this thing up? It has 3gb ram and 2gb is constantly being eaten by something. I always kill active programs.
Very unimpressed. Should have stuck to my ball and chain iPad.

After you upgrade your tablet do you make a hard reset? When i bought mine i make this and it's worked! But like a guy who loves custom roms, root and xposed i installed a custom rom called ironrom based on 5.0.2 and its very smooth and i recommend you to make this but instead of using the ironrom try SlimLP its a very cool rom and you will like it!
Sorry for my bad english!
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I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm an Apple fan boy. I have an iPhone and iPad that run seamlessly. I wanted a little more freedom so I bought a Samsung tab s 10.5. I upgraded to the latest software and am very dissapointed. It is slow, sluggish, laggy, unresponsive, and just isn't in sync with my fingers. Chrome and wifi is like it's running on dial up. Apps Like Fifa 16 run perfect on my iPhone but are so choppy on the tab. VLC videos convulse every 10 seconds or so.
What can I do to speed this thing up? It has 3gb ram and 2gb is constantly being eaten by something. I always kill active programs.
Very unimpressed. Should have stuck to my ball and chain iPad.
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I've found that the processor for T705 (Tab S 8.4) is a bit slow. I assume that Tab S 10.5 has similar processor. However, as soon as I installed CM12.1 on it - it's just as installing faster processor. On Antutu tests, my original Samsung was showing 34.6K mark. On CM12.1 it shows nearly 40K.

HARD RESET
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ditch the samsung rom and install the unofficial Cyanogemmod 12.1 from nvertigo, you will see a big change. Install the latest TWRP also. ( with ODIN) At first when I've bought the Tab S 10.5 I wasn't impressed neither, but i knew that with a new ROM on it, it would work much better. Don't install marshmallow 6 yet, it's not ready.
here it is, there is often a new version, so keep an eye on the thread.. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63655919&postcount=1537
Antutu benchmark : 39,607 Buy a decent microSD card, it worth it.

Jord7137 said:
I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm an Apple fan boy. I have an iPhone and iPad that run seamlessly. I wanted a little more freedom so I bought a Samsung tab s 10.5. I upgraded to the latest software and am very dissapointed. It is slow, sluggish, laggy, unresponsive, and just isn't in sync with my fingers. Chrome and wifi is like it's running on dial up. Apps Like Fifa 16 run perfect on my iPhone but are so choppy on the tab. VLC videos convulse every 10 seconds or so.
What can I do to speed this thing up? It has 3gb ram and 2gb is constantly being eaten by something. I always kill active programs.
Very unimpressed. Should have stuck to my ball and chain iPad.
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I'm on stock lollipop rom and I have no issues at all.
So you got to have something very wrong on your tab. Try hard resetting your tab and disabling stock apps you don't use.
Tab S is not a powerhouse, but it's not slow, sluggish, laggy or unresponsive.

If you're not going to root/install custom ROM, try Package Disabler Pro from Playstore. I used it before I rooted my SM-T700 and had 104 needless/useless/crap/bloatware apps disabled and my tab worked fine! That's 104!
......TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks)......
Galaxy Tab S | SMT-T700 | klimtwifi
..................AICP 5.1.1........................

pacc said:
I'm on stock lollipop rom and I have no issues at all.
So you got to have something very wrong on your tab. Try hard resetting your tab and disabling stock apps you don't use.
Tab S is not a powerhouse, but it's not slow, sluggish, laggy or unresponsive.
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In reality he is a powerhouse all you to do is reverted back to kitcat or use iron rom 1.97 and use nova launcher, the reason why the tab s suck now is because of lollipop 5.0.2 which is a epic fail because instead of extended battery life and lag fix you have the exact contrary and games like asphalt 8 looks good on kitcat but look like **** on lollipop if you dont believe me then try it

I have T805 and it is fast . Btw, I recommend that you use the feature Reading Mode for browsing internet, it is really good for your eyes . Only thing - when your browser updates itself to newer version, you have to always activate Reading Mode again for the browser .

I wanted to freshen up some things on mine too. However, I didn't want to trip Knox for warranty reasons, so any modifications I made needed to leave the stock bootloader and stock kernel in place. Here is what I did. It is a decent amount of work if you haven't done it before, but I'll gladly give more details on any of these points (if interested, just ask):
1. Odin flash back to KK, get root, Flashfire back up to L (keeping root) (although I suppose you could stay on KK if you prefer). Credit to @ashyx for his guides. (very easy to find those guides)
2. Deodex the stock rom in order to install xposed framework. Credit goes to @townsenk for his guide, @nghia0423 for a good tip, and some pointers I posted on that thread on page 11.
3. Install xposed framework. Credit goes to many people, but specifically to @arter97 for his guide for Samsung devices on Lollipop.
4. Install modules for customization. There are many out there. Just make sure that they are not only compatible with 5.0+, but also compatible with TouchWiz. There are some good lists out there.
5. I purged 70+ bloat system apks. You don't need xposed for this obviously, just root. Which ones to uninstall? It's a matter of research, but if you are interested, I could probably take a screenshot of my "recyclebin" that is build into the System App Uninstaller app.
6. Use Nova Launcher (you don't even need root or xposed for this) or another launcher that is known for speeding things up.
Yes, it's a lot of work, but I love being able to change and customize things while keeping the stock rom. If freedom is what you want, this is the way to go in my humble opinion. It comes at the price of time, reading, and risk of brick; but the freedom that xposed modules grant you is stunning. I personally like the stock multiwindow feature that Samsung added that lets you use two apps simultaneously. (There is an xposed module that lets you add ANY app to the multi window list). Just one simple example, there are many.
I will for sure consider going ahead and tripping the knox counter and flashing a custom ROM (even more freedom) on a couple conditions:
1. When my warranty is up in about 6 more months.
2.When there is as stable release build of CyanogenMod for this device.
For now, I'm happy with my setup. At idle, no apps running, it's at 45% RAM (1.23GB/2.71GB) which is not bad considering it's TouchWiz. I'm sure others out there could get this even better with Greenify or other tweaks.

Something you cannot do with an iPad when an Apple update renders it almost useless is to install a custom ROM so you can continue to enjoy your tablet. The choice of ROMs out there is plentiful so I suggest you explore the freedom, versatility and personalisation that Android allows you.

Go back to your ipad then

obsydian said:
Go back to your ipad then
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Well aren't you just a little ray of sunshine. Bell-end.

houstie said:
Well aren't you just a little ray of sunshine. Bell-end.
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Guess you'd know all about that tosser.

I use opera to browse and it is so much better than chrome. I disabled chrome. And yes after an update a hard reset is a must. The display does use a bit more power than the iPad but that's the price you pay for the display. That is probably why they have a lower rez display on the new Samsung tablets. Me I have no lag problems and tried the marshmallow rom, it was much smoother and a little more responsive.

What actually changed in the Htc Desire 626s Metro PCS Marshmallow Update?

I looked around to see if anyone else saw any major differences between the android 5.1 and android 6.0.1 update. I only found one video that explains it as best as possible. See link below to youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeoDt_6EWW0
What did we actually get besides optimization, google now on tap, and a few visuals here and there?
May-be it's just me, but the only time I get any battery optimization is only when i'm not using the phone. Other then that, while i'm using my phone, the battery still drains fast.
I really don't see the major point in having google now on tap since I really don't care to get a ton of info on sites I visit on my phone.
I was hoping to get a full blown OS upgrade. But after seeing the file size of the update, I was already disappointed from the start.
Am I the only one disappointed in the update?

s3llz said:
I looked around to see if anyone else saw any major differences between the android 5.1 and android 6.0.1 update.
What did we actually get besides optimization, google now on tap, and a few visuals here and there?
May-be it's just me, but the only time I get any battery optimization is only when i'm not using the phone. Other then that, while i'm using my phone, the battery still drains fast.
I really don't see the major point in having google now on tap since I really don't care to get a ton of info on sites I visit on my phone.
I was hoping to get a full blown OS upgrade. But after seeing the file size of the update, I was already disappointed from the start.
Am I the only one disappointed in the update?
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So, other things it got that I'm happy about:
Individual app permissions
Doze
Format SD card as internal storage
To me, these are the best things about upgrading to 6.0.1 that actually make a difference for me.
FYI, the battery life will be the same when you are using the phone, Doze only kicks in when the phone is idle, like really, really idle. Not using it, not in your pocket when you're walking around, nothing like that. It needs to be sitting still on a table/desk for a good while (like when you are sleeping and not constantly checking your phone) before it will kick Doze on.

I agree with @Rev_Pizzaguy...that's how Android M works by design. I have Evervolv Marshmallow running on my HP Touchpad and i get the slowest drain when Doze is running and my tablet is totally still and nothing runs.
Also, I personally have no regrets converting my 64GB SD card to internal. I weighed the pros and cons and made my choice, lol.

Rev_Pizzaguy said:
So, other things it got that I'm happy about:
Individual app permissions
Doze
Format SD card as internal storage
To me, these are the best things about upgrading to 6.0.1 that actually make a difference for me.
FYI, the battery life will be the same when you are using the phone, Doze only kicks in when the phone is idle, like really, really idle. Not using it, not in your pocket when you're walking around, nothing like that. It needs to be sitting still on a table/desk for a good while (like when you are sleeping and not constantly checking your phone) before it will kick Doze on.
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App permissions and SD card as internal storage is fine. I have no problem with these system updates, it's the fact that they didn't take full advantage of the ability to customize their particular os. HTC needs a little pep in their step when it comes to visual os upgrades. The themes engine is OK, but nothing compared to cyanogenmod, miui, oxygen os and flyme os. What I was referring to was the look overall not changing. Instead of calling it a Android 6.0.1 os update, they should have called it an Android 6.0.1 system update and made it perfectly clear that there would be no actual visual changes, just a few system changes. Text on a screen can be misinterpreted by the reader, so I want to make it clear. I'm not upset with what the update offered, I'm upset at the fact that there was no change to the look of the os. Maybe if there are future updates for this, things may change. But for now, just gonna sit back and be content with what I got and hope for the best going forth in the future.

rfoster2009 said:
I agree with @Rev_Pizzaguy...that's how Android M works by design. I have Evervolv Marshmallow running on my HP Touchpad and i get the slowest drain when Doze is running and my tablet is totally still and nothing runs.
Also, I personally have no regrets converting my 64GB SD card to internal. I weighed the pros and cons and made my choice, lol.
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For me, it's about the visuals. I never said I didn't like the update, I just wanted to see what HTC could do with visuals. That was a disappointment. Everything else that came in the update was fine. Wish I knew how to build roms. But since I don't, I must have hope in those who do and hope they will come through for us 626s users.

s3llz said:
For me, it's about the visuals. I never said I didn't like the update, I just wanted to see what HTC could do with visuals. That was a disappointment. Everything else that came in the update was fine. Wish I knew how to build roms. But since I don't, I must have hope in those who do and hope they will come through for us 626s users.
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HTC's latest version of Sense UI is 7.0 and their other phones that have been updated to Android 6.0.1 ran Sense 7.0 as well, so I wasn't expecting much UI change. I know Sense 8.0 is coming, but it's only in limited release on their new flagship (HTC 10). From the sounds of it, it sounds like they are decoupling Sense UI completely from the OS, though, so we may see it as an update later on. (Search for "HTC Sense 8.0 closed beta" and you'll find plenty of articles.)

Rev_Pizzaguy said:
HTC's latest version of Sense UI is 7.0 and their other phones that have been updated to Android 6.0.1 ran Sense 7.0 as well, so I wasn't expecting much UI change. I know Sense 8.0 is coming, but it's only in limited release on their new flagship (HTC 10). From the sounds of it, it sounds like they are decoupling Sense UI completely from the OS, though, so we may see it as an update later on. (Search for "HTC Sense 8.0 closed beta" and you'll find plenty of articles.)
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Thank you Rev for the info. Well, at least that gives me hope. I do develop themes on the side for HTC. But there's only so much you can do as far as customization. I'm only able to change the dialer, messages, wallpapers, icons, and color scheme and a couple other things. They now have what they call "Freestyle Themes." Which are not bad at all. I would just like to see htc themselves think outside of the box like they did with their own branded "Freestyle Theme" collection. But yeah, what you have told me gives me hope for the future. Once again, I thank you for your info. It is much appreciated.:highfive::good:
Check out a couple of my htc themes (links below)
1. Space Glow - Classic Theme
https://themes.htc.com/#/user/theme/com.htc.theme.t2cdf94df-7c57-4f39-976f-1cb48ee4341e
2. Hey Scotty! Vintage Man! - Freestyle Theme
https://themes.htc.com/#/user/theme/com.htc.theme.t29886eca-9024-4408-bda3-d784308c4745

"Freestyle themes" have been around for a while, I've been using them since they where first introduced on a Sense Home update in the play store.

Hey guys, nice forum and good topic. But I'm needing some help in updating my 626s s-off. I've been looking around for a compatible update of the 6.0.1 but keep getting alternate language. Any help or links anyone can provide is most appreciated. Thank you.

IsaacGuti said:
"Freestyle themes" have been around for a while, I've been using them since they where first introduced on a Sense Home update in the play store.
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Sounds great, which ones are your favs?