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[Q] Best Stable Rom for a new Tab Owner

I just got a Galaxy Tablet (t-mobile).
I am familiar with rooting (have a droid incredible running Lou's Revolution "Senseless" Rom and Kernels).
The tablet is going to be a family device. I want to avoid going through the process of trying Roms as I did with my incredible..
What is the most stable Rom that will provide good performance and battery life for running Launcher Pro? WiFi connectivity is very important - dialing or fancy phone agumentations are not necessary (only using this as a wifi device).
Thanks.

Overcome v1. 2
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siteexperts said:
I just got a Galaxy Tablet (t-mobile).
I am familiar with rooting (have a droid incredible running Lou's Revolution "Senseless" Rom and Kernels).
The tablet is going to be a family device. I want to avoid going through the process of trying Roms as I did with my incredible..
What is the most stable Rom that will provide good performance and battery life for running Launcher Pro? WiFi connectivity is very important - dialing or fancy phone agumentations are not necessary (only using this as a wifi device).
Thanks.
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I'm wondering this as well. So far, I have rooted, ran OCLF, and pretty much everything else is stock T-Mobile. I use my tab for surfing, blogging, streaming video and music from my media center, and ebook reading. I use it regularly all day every day.
It goes for about a day and a half before I charge it. I have an iPad that my daughter uses. It'll go 2 full days easily.
I have not had a single issue that required me to reboot since I got the tab over a week ago.
Realistically, Is there a single mod out there for the galaxy tab that can say this? Will Overcome behave this well?
Of course, I'd love it to be faster when I've got several web pages loaded. I'd love better battery life, too. I don't want either of these things if I have to wonder if/when the OS is going to explode, or reboot on me all the time. I guess I would consider a couple reboots a week to be acceptable.
Are these expectations realistic for modded firmware?

I've been using Overcome for a few weeks now, and haven't had a single reboot. My battery life is slightly lower, in that I use the Tab as my phone as well. So, the constant cell radio usage trims my battery life down to 24 hours or so.
Otherwise it's far snappier and responsive than stock (T-Mobile) especially overclocked to 1.4ghz and undervolted. Keep in mind, that flashing a Euro Rom (as you're thinking of doing) will change your Build.Prop... essentially changing how the Market and Apps see your device model listed. Which can be good and bad.
Gameloft for example, has more games available for the GT-P1000 than it does the SGH-T849 (T-Mobile Tab ID)...which is great, however I had to change my Build.Prop back to stock, to be able to use Samsung Media Hub on my device.

I have a similar question, but for the Sprint version.

Bandage said:
I've been using Overcome for a few weeks now, and haven't had a single reboot. My battery life is slightly lower, in that I use the Tab as my phone as well. So, the constant cell radio usage trims my battery life down to 24 hours or so.
Otherwise it's far snappier and responsive than stock (T-Mobile) especially overclocked to 1.4ghz and undervolted. Keep in mind, that flashing a Euro Rom (as you're thinking of doing) will change your Build.Prop... essentially changing how the Market and Apps see your device model listed. Which can be good and bad.
Gameloft for example, has more games available for the GT-P1000 than it does the SGH-T849 (T-Mobile Tab ID)...which is great, however I had to change my Build.Prop back to stock, to be able to use Samsung Media Hub on my device.
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I notice that you have a g-tablet. How would you compare the two tabs from a performance and stability standpoint?

Well...the Tegra2 in the GTab flies...for sure. I don't notice much performance difference between my overclocked Tab (and ext4) and it tho. Quadrant avg for GTab is around 1900-2100...Galaxy Tab hitting 1700-1900
Main issue I have with the GTab is the screen. Seems like they ripped an lcd from a netbook and put it in the GTab. Quality of the Galaxy Tab's screen is much better.
Battery life is good, considering. Had to replace the Rom immediately, cuz stock out of box made the device barely usable. Seems to handle video just fine, however my wife sitting next to me on a plane trip had a hard time watching the movie at an off angle.
Gaming is fluid, tho I haven't tried the Tegra games as of yet. The GTab is heavy with prolonged use...tho most 10 inchers will be. Otherwise, for the price...and with the support the devs are giving it...it's worth it. Although...I think my main device will end up being the 8.9 inch Galaxy Tab, the size just seems to be the perfect bridge between the 7 and 10 inch tablets.

I have not loaded any roms, only rooted and flashed MaDaCo kernel only. Its fast and everything works great. I have not found any ROMs that I would consider flashing. The stock ROM works fine with a new kernel. Problem is also that the Tab development section has come to a hault. Nothing really new for a long time

dubie76 said:
I have not loaded any roms, only rooted and flashed MaDaCo kernel only. Its fast and everything works great. I have not found any ROMs that I would consider flashing. The stock ROM works fine with a new kernel. Problem is also that the Tab development section has come to a hault. Nothing really new for a long time
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I agree...not a ton of NEW stuff coming along....but Alterbridge has been steadily updating his Overcome Rom & Kernel...it's a stable daily driver. And, one guy (not sure how legit it is) has been working on HC port for the Tab...and said he'd be finished with rough draft in another week or two. (crosses fingers)
The ONLY reason I flashed a Rom was to enable Phone activities on my Tab. Otherwise, not a huge reason to go beyond stock firmware...Kernel upgrade is a must, however! Effin Sammy won't pull it's head out of it's arse and get rid of RFS format, so converting to ext4 is a huge performance tweak.

Bandage said:
Well...the Tegra2 in the GTab flies...for sure. I don't notice much performance difference between my overclocked Tab (and ext4) and it tho. Quadrant avg for GTab is around 1900-2100...Galaxy Tab hitting 1700-1900
Main issue I have with the GTab is the screen. Seems like they ripped an lcd from a netbook and put it in the GTab. Quality of the Galaxy Tab's screen is much better.
Battery life is good, considering. Had to replace the Rom immediately, cuz stock out of box made the device barely usable. Seems to handle video just fine, however my wife sitting next to me on a plane trip had a hard time watching the movie at an off angle.
Gaming is fluid, tho I haven't tried the Tegra games as of yet. The GTab is heavy with prolonged use...tho most 10 inchers will be. Otherwise, for the price...and with the support the devs are giving it...it's worth it. Although...I think my main device will end up being the 8.9 inch Galaxy Tab, the size just seems to be the perfect bridge between the 7 and 10 inch tablets.
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You must have had some serious good luck with your gtablet. Apps on mine FC'd a dozen times a day, it randomly rebooted, and wouldnt sleep. I had vegan 5.1.1 loaded. It drove me nuts. Im a little 'rom shy' now. Lol.
On a side note, i dont notice much difference in performance between my unmodded tab and the gtablet. If anything, the tab is snappier and infinately more stable. The thing about a modded rom that scares me the most is lack of stability. Id blame my gtablet issues on myself, but i bought it already modded - from one of the vegan devs.
. . . sent from my iPad 2 running Windows Phone 7

No doubt...GTab FC's happen, and some of that can be attributed to the Roms...tho I daresay it's more about the device itself.
The only FC's or reboots I've had on the Tab is when I mess overly much with the voltage settings.

I have had zero issues with Overcome ROM/Kernel, even with OV/UV applied. I also like how he is constantly updating his work, as stated in a previous reply.
I added Roto's modem switcher and used the SIM hack, and I have full phone functionality with my G1 SIM on my tmo tab.

Yep, im a Overcome fan for both rom and kernel. Not a single problem so far.

My TMO tab is coming in tomorrow, is it still the consensus that the Overcome 1.2 ROM, or rather Overcome 1.6.3 now, is the best bet?
I'll be making a full Roto Backup before playing with it so hopefully it won't be a problem going back to stock from Overcome 1.2 if need be.

webvan said:
My TMO tab is coming in tomorrow, is it still the consensus that the Overcome 1.2 ROM is the best bet?
I'll be making a full Roto Backup before playing with it so hopefully it won't be a problem going back to stock from Overcome 1.2 if need be.
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Dude, you do realise that those posts where made 2 months ago?
We are up to Overcome 1.6.4 now.

Thanks, dude, post had been updated...anyway the question remains.

Overcome 1.6.4 ROM/Kernel are your best choice. You won't regret flashing it over.

Thanks, will do some downloading to be all set tomorrow when it comes in.

Agree, Overcome was rock solid easy to install. My SGT on tmous, is very stable.
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me and my tab stock rom running fine. No issues there.

Downgraded to 4.1.2 - Very Happy

I bought a Nexus 7 about a couple weeks ago, and was instantly disappointed by the washed out colors and lack of saturation. Also, I was having charging, lag, and Bluetooth issues. I tried the a custom ROM, kernel, hacks, and still wasn't happy with the performance or colors of the device. I had read all the threads, and pretty much decided to sell it. Before I did though, I decided to downgrade to the factory 4.1.2 OS, since many of the performance issues were caused by 4.2. Long story short: I will be keeping the N7 now. I haven't tested Bluetooth so far, but I haven't seen any of the performance issues so far. No lagging or glitchy behavior with any apps; especially when multitasking. I have all my apps, music, and videos loaded back on it, and all is good.
Interestingly enough, the colors actually look better as well. I noticed it pretty quickly, but since everything I read said it was an issue with the calibration, I didn't think it would be resolved by the downgrade. It was pretty much confirmed when I opened Facebook for the first time on 4.1.2. On 4.2, even the simple blue splash screen looked like it had a low bit rate. The best example would be the way a picture is degraded when saving in MS Paint, or when you set the display colors to 16-bit and get the circular wave pattern on the background. On 4.2, it was the normal smooth blue. Also, the colors don't look overexposed when the brightness is increased like before. Even when compared side-by-side with my RAZR M, the display looks more natural than it did on 4.2.
Its charging right now, and that is much faster as well. Yesterday, it was charging like 10-15% every hour, and now its charged about 10% in 20 minutes or so. I will update the thread as I continue to use it, but just wanted to put my experience out there. Also, it is rooted, but no custom ROM or kernel and I couldn't be happier.

What is the best method for downgrading?
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Search fof this on Google; its on the other forum: [GUIDE] Nexus 7 - Factory Image Restore by 2defmouze

If you are rooted you can install the Trickster Mod app from the Play store and turn Smart dimmer off. That should fix washed out colors.

ganovim said:
What is the best method for downgrading?
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Take your time, save & backup apps & data on your N7 first, move them to an external source or cloud (hint, hint - Goggle Drive & Dropbox) and always good idea to start with a fully charged (or, at least 80% plus) device.
Use one of the Nexus tool kits to help guide the steps in downloading & flashing the 4.1.2 factory image, then root it (bootloader should remian unlocked) and flash 1 of 2 custom recovery image - reboot & set up the device again, give it time to "settle" & restore - and you should be good to go in getting your Apps & previously saved data back on the device.
While you are at it - you might want to select an alternate browser that support Flash Player 11.x, and, add Beats Audio/DSP to boost the speakers volume, and get 720p video back on your camera - and use custom recovery to make a full backup and set it aside safely. Disable and ignore the "prompt" for software upgrade and enjoy.

Logan_M said:
If you are rooted you can install the Trickster Mod app from the Play store and turn Smart dimmer off. That should fix washed out colors.
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The Trickster Mod didn't work for me. Plus, its more to fix the washed out affect caused by playing videos. With that said, I play all videos through MX Player. It allows you to adjust the brightness of videos and overrides the auto-brightness feature that causes the wash out.
Also, as mentioned before, make sure you properly back up your apps and data. I saved all my info to my computer before downgrading. It will wipe everything and give you a clean slate.
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Going to have to downgrade too this week.
The Bluetooth problems are killing me. I am off on holiday soon, and want to stream music to my Bluetooth speakers, but 4.2 is totally broken in this regard.
Waited as long as I can for Google to release a 4.2.2, but it's not happened. It's such a crime that the media went ballistic over the December non-bug and gave that all the media attention, but the real problems get no press at all, and Google are allowed to drag their heels on a fix.

I'm stock and still haven't upgraded to 4.2.1. The stories are still bad so I have to stick with the stupid upgrade notification coming on every 5 mind. Small price I have to pay though
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I've update to 4.2.1 today, on 4.1.2 i have prob on bootloader->recovery, it's freeze.
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thevuman said:
I'm stock and still haven't upgraded to 4.2.1. The stories are still bad so I have to stick with the stupid upgrade notification coming on every 5 mind. Small price I have to pay though
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Nah, you don't have to deal with that nonsense every few hours or daily, just disable it or turn it off - it's been discussed & # of ways to do it - my stock Rom being rooted, I used the free Autorun Manager from the Store, edit the framework & bam, done in 30 seconds. No more reminder - 4.1.2 is great for me and it does all that I needed with a bit of customization - I don't need overclocking for fancy kernel, etc.
Here's the link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998378

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Nah, you don't have to deal with that nonsense every few hours or daily, just disable it or turn it off - it's been discussed & # of ways to do it - my stock Rom being rooted, I used the free Autorun Manager from the Store, edit the framework & bam, done in 30 seconds. No more reminder - 4.1.2 is great for me and it does all that I needed with a bit of customization - I don't need overclocking for fancy kernel, etc.
Here's the link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998378
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Same here. I used Autorun to kill the Update process under the framework.

4.2.1 is great if you get rid of all the bloatware. I'm running sgt7 with lean kernel and its faster than 4.1 was for me

I was a bit underwhelmed with 4.2 as well for a bit. Finally CyanogenMod released 10.1 (Android 4.2) nightlies, and that combined with a custom kernel and TricksterMod has my N7 running quicker than 4.1 ever did.
Only side effect is symlinking doesn't work. But I'd rather use my 16GB flash drive to play my old PS1 games instead of what's available from the Play Store anyways. Much more fun, but may be due to nostalgia.

Y downgrade ?
U got a Flagship nexus Tablet so you can get the fastest access to the updates and then you dont want the update or want to go back.
Why ?
I have no issues on 4.2.1 (just flash a good kernel and ur good to go).
P.S: Never look back unless ur at the end of the road

4.2.1 works great for me. Bluetooth to an external audio device works, colors are 'normal' (don't look any different than any other release of the OS) and battery life is great. Guess I'm lucky.
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Got my N7 last summer and installed 4.2 the day after it came out. Downgraded a week later. The deal killer for me was was the inability to run scripts to bind directories on my usb stick and then see them from my installed apps. Never tried Blue tooth as I only got a BT keyboard after I downgraded. But then there was also the volume nag screen when the head phone jack is active.
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Me too waiting for directory bind to work on 4.2.1 since the upgrade, figured that by this time someone might come out with workable solution. Guess I'm wrong. I've no use of multiple user, I'm seriously considering to downgrade now. Another issue is the random reboot, it ruin everything from gaming to watching movies.
Which stock rom you guys downgrade to? I'm on 4.2.1 JOP40D. Can I just backup everything in titanium backup, restore and expect everything to works. Any special step to follow?
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xateeq said:
Y downgrade ?
U got a Flagship nexus Tablet so you can get the fastest access to the updates and then you dont want the update or want to go back.
Why ?
I have no issues on 4.2.1 (just flash a good kernel and ur good to go).
P.S: Never look back unless ur at the end of the road
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That is such a narrow minded oversimplification. 4.2.1 is proving extremely buggy for Nexus 7 at the moment. The amount of issues and lag are tremendous. If an update means lag and bug in no way it is wise to update.
You don't have any issues, congrats. I for one has a close to useless device on 4.2.1.
Now, will you try to make posts that make more sense than "you have updates, update" please.

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That is such a narrow minded oversimplification. 4.2.1 is proving extremely buggy for Nexus 7 at the moment. The amount of issues and lag are tremendous. If an update means lag and bug in no way it is wise to update.
You don't have any issues, congrats. I for one has a close to useless device on 4.2.1.
Now, will you try to make posts that make more sense than "you have updates, update" please.
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There's a post like that in every thread. "Thousands of people suffer from documented bug/problems even acknowledged by Google but since I don't have any of the problems everyone including Google must be wrong".
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I've been on stock 4.2.1 since the update first came but I haven't liked it since it lags more than previous versions and also the tablet freezes and reboots from time to time (at least once a week). Lately I have been thinking about downgrade to 4.1.2 with the nexus 7 toolkit but then I read about the upcoming 4.2.2. Hopefully it will arrive soon(!) and fix all that were broken with 4.2. Otherwise I also will downgrade to 4.1.2. One of the reasons I bought a nexus device was to avoid rooting and flashing and still be using the latest that android had to offer. But as 4.2 turned out maybe I have to reconsider my decision
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Trading my galaxy nexus for a Note

A friend of mine gives me the possibility to trade my galaxy nexus for his galaly note, I like the display and the s pen but I would lost the "nexus" support...I can't decide,what would you do?
p.s. with the galaxy nexus i can get 3h 30min of screen on,what about note?

@BurningKoala I had GNexus for some time (app developing) and it's a great phone, but I'm glad I chose the Note over it.
Disadvantages are SO & Hardware optimization (Note's fast and reliable but nothing rivals Nexus) and, maybe, size. If you are considering the Note, size might not be a problem to you. The huge screen is also it's main advantage; for navigation or reading it's just a BIG jump. I really enjoy it. There's a reason why new phones are getting near the Note's screen size...
About battery, it's not as good as the Note II but comparable to that of the GNexus. You'll get trough the day with a lot of use without problems.
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BurningKoala said:
A friend of mine gives me the possibility to trade my galaxy nexus for his galaly note, I like the display and the s pen but I would lost the "nexus" support...I can't decide,what would you do?
p.s. with the galaxy nexus i can get 3h 30min of screen on,what about note?
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You will feel the difference in smoothness if you intend to keep it stock. But coming from a nexus i don't think you will have any problems with CM or AOSP roms, wich are much faster than Samsung Touchwiz.
Go for it and do the trade
You won't regret it

Stay with the Nexus - the support from Samsung on the Note is terrible. The recent Jelly Bean update to the Note is a disaster, it is VERY slow. Laggy everywhere, ugly, unintuitive compared to AOSP.
Want to use the S-pen? Use the S-Note app which lags like hell. When you draw with it then it jumps, also the s-pen is not calibrated properly (you can get a payed app to calibrate it properly)
Want to phone someone? Press the phone icon on your launcher, wait 5s, then get a laggy animation and then wait another 5s for the phone to load.
Want to perform a factory reset on ICS? Do so and after that you will brick your phone. If you flash a kernel then there is a possibility you will loose your guarantee.
Want to get TW 4.2.2? Forget about it, it won't happen.
Want AOSP on it? Sure we have it. Some very good ROM's... it's a shame that Samsung hasn't released the exynos source code EVEN THOUGH they said they would by the end of of 2012. This means many developers are leaving the exynos based devices and we won't get as much support on new android versions. Also we have a broken hwcomposer meaning it has not got projet butter. And you can certainly see this.
Want to watch a movie on your phone? Great! watch how all yopur greys are replaced with pitch black, imagine what a horror movie looks like on our screen now. That is what the balck clipping/black crush issue is with it.
Anything good about the phone? Well... It has a nice screen size, that's it in my eyes.

XxPixX said:
Stay with the Nexus - the support from Samsung on the Note is terrible. The recent Jelly Bean update to the Note is a disaster, it is VERY slow. Laggy everywhere, ugly, unintuitive compared to AOSP.
Want to use the S-pen? Use the S-Note app which lags like hell. When you draw with it then it jumps, also the s-pen is not calibrated properly (you can get a payed app to calibrate it properly)
Want to phone someone? Press the phone icon on your launcher, wait 5s, then get a laggy animation and then wait another 5s for the phone to load.
Want to perform a factory reset on ICS? Do so and after that you will brick your phone. If you flash a kernel then there is a possibility you will loose your guarantee.
Want to get TW 4.2.2? Forget about it, it won't happen.
Want AOSP on it? Sure we have it. Some very good ROM's... it's a shame that Samsung hasn't released the exynos source code EVEN THOUGH they said they would by the end of of 2012. This means many developers are leaving the exynos based devices and we won't get as much support on new android versions. Also we have a broken hwcomposer meaning it has not got projet butter. And you can certainly see this.
Want to watch a movie on your phone? Great! watch how all yopur greys are replaced with pitch black, imagine what a horror movie looks like on our screen now. That is what the balck clipping/black crush issue is with it.
Anything good about the phone? Well... It has a nice screen size, that's it in my eyes.
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Wow... seems like we have two completely different phones.
I can't agree with 80% of what you say. Sadly the emmc brick bug is there, and there will never be enough soft&hw support from Samsung to get us all pleased, but hey...
- JB runs GREAT on this phone, the failure is the update process which ruins everything. Do a clean one and is as fast and estable as it should.
- No lag in phone app. 1 or 2 secs, maybe? Surely NOT 5 seconds. Again: JB clean installation?
- Not liking S-Note? Well, S-pen utility sure doesn't end there. Have 5 drawing apps which I just can't imagine myself using them without the S-Pen (calibrated, by the way, with simple rooting and easy tweaking).
- Black clipping problem, just for your information, is also present in the GNexus as it is in every pentile HD amoled screen. Maybe not as hard, but it is there. Check it for yourself.
- Assuming you want to live flashing new roms, you might get affected by the unreleasing of exynos source code. I never got affected by it, most surely will never be.
- And then, there comes the big screen: Gaming, browsing, typing, reading, showing pictures, watching videos... it is like half a tablet in your everyday life, which in terms of use to me changes EVERYTHING.
Don't get me wrong, you have all the right to be unhappy with any device in the world, but those words seemed like facts when they are not really that objective. As you can see, I didn't say Note was better than GNexus: I just offered my perspective, which is a really pleasant one.
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My decision will be the same, nexus 5 or note 3
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Drummyman said:
- JB runs GREAT on this phone, the failure is the update process which ruins everything. Do a clean one and is as fast and estable as it should.
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Trust me, I wouldn't be too surprised if I has flashed over 300 times on my phone. Maybe even 500. I know how to perform a full wipe and proper install, also I NEVER have a bloated device. i try to keep as little apps as possible (usually about 15 user apps, nearly all from google). What did I realise after about 3 days of use? The phone got very slow and laggy. Not even restarts helped.
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- No lag in phone app. 1 or 2 secs, maybe? Surely NOT 5 seconds. Again: JB clean installation?
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Clear the phone out of the memory, then you will see how slow it is. With me it is usually not in memory because I don't use it that much.
Certainly 5s after a clean install, add another 5s after you have installed a couple of apps.
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- Not liking S-Note? Well, S-pen utility sure doesn't end there. Have 5 drawing apps which I just can't imagine myself using them without the S-Pen (calibrated, by the way, with simple rooting and easy tweaking).
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Although rooting is very easy on this phone, we should have had an already calibrated S-pen. As for alternative apps then yes, they do work. My favourite is Papyrus. However the samsung apps are real memory and CPU hoggers. When I was making my own ROM (Bare Bean) then the S-apps probably took up at least 150Mb... and I ask, on what? Alternative apps from google play take up 10x less space offering better functionality and speed.
Drummyman said:
- Assuming you want to live flashing new roms, you might get affected by the unreleasing of exynos source code. I never got affected by it, most surely will never be.
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You will be affected by it in a short while, once you say "hey, I want that feature of Android in Jelly Bean 4.3"
Drummyman said:
- And then, there comes the big screen: Gaming, browsing, typing, reading, showing pictures, watching videos... it is like half a tablet in your everyday life, which in terms of use to me changes EVERYTHING.
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Yes, the screen is nice. I must admit that... however that is one of the few things Samsung couldn't break after time with software updates.

I don't know, so many flashing overwhelms me. But I'm in Philz rooted stock spanish 4.1.2 LSZ, without removing any bloatware or anything touched (only rooted to calibrate s-pen and opened multiwindow to any app) and I can assure you my Note goes fluid, with no battery drains and there's no 5 second lag ANYWHERE. No restarting needed.
Sometimes, I get the feeling that removing too many - apparently harmless - stock rom apps and system files, causes unknown side effects. I really encourage rom developers, though - and I will not be praising Samsung work - BUT there's a lot of testing involved in stock roms that always make me more confident about them. In every phone I had, maximum estability and less problems have always been stock roms. Only talking about my own experience.
Good thing about Nexuses: Stock roms are always clean android, directly from OS developer.
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And a new flaming thread just started
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XxPixX said:
Trust me, I wouldn't be too surprised if I has flashed over 300 times on my phone. Maybe even 500. I know how to perform a full wipe and proper install, also I NEVER have a bloated device. i try to keep as little apps as possible (usually about 15 user apps, nearly all from google). What did I realise after about 3 days of use? The phone got very slow and laggy. Not even restarts helped.
Clear the phone out of the memory, then you will see how slow it is. With me it is usually not in memory because I don't use it that much.
Certainly 5s after a clean install, add another 5s after you have installed a couple of apps.
Although rooting is very easy on this phone, we should have had an already calibrated S-pen. As for alternative apps then yes, they do work. My favourite is Papyrus. However the samsung apps are real memory and CPU hoggers. When I was making my own ROM (Bare Bean) then the S-apps probably took up at least 150Mb... and I ask, on what? Alternative apps from google play take up 10x less space offering better functionality and speed.
You will be affected by it in a short while, once you say "hey, I want that feature of Android in Jelly Bean 4.3"
Yes, the screen is nice. I must admit that... however that is one of the few things Samsung couldn't break after time with software updates.
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You should change YOUR Galaxy Note with his Nexus then
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My personal opinion about Samsung's Lollipop release

I haven't seen much threads like this so I think people seem quite okay with samsungs Lollipop, but for me it seems to be even worse than Kitkat. Let me mention some things.
Wifi;
Nothing seems to work even worse than Wifi for me. I've changed some settings on the router, changed the auto change from 2.4 gHz to 5 to manual, yet I get this problem that the internet is terribly slow at some moments, and it stays there for like 30 minutes(Downloading a simple app from the play store like apex goes with 20 kb/s).
Functionality;
Everything pops in place as I was used to touchwiz, yet I miss the ambient display alot! Its the function that was very usefull on the stock Lollipop update, but yet Samsung decided to not add it to their software.
Performance;
Even while Antutu tells me my phone improved with the update, I can't see it back. some things just seem to be sluggish at some moments. Like the well known recent button problem which I don't really want to discuss as it is known. But also just opening the menu just seems to go with around 15-20 fps for me(Which just looks sluggish).
Now that might just be Eye candy, but I've installed "Sky Force" from the play store, and even that lags when too much happends in the game.
Batterylife;
From 7:00 AM to 19:00 PM I loose around 60-65% battery, I use my phone as a media player, got it connected with a Moto 360 and sometimes I play a game on it, check Facebook. Just the normal stuff I guess, yet I think this is way too much for my daily use, Battery stats pulls it on the Android system, and BBS doesn't seem to give clear answers to me, as there are crucial wakelocks happening which cannot be frozen.
The looks;
Now this is just something personal, as Touchwiz always had the look of a toy in a store with a big red button on it saying "Try me", I still do not prefer its new looks. Everything looks flat and all those colours just make me have a rainbow phone or something. Simply do not like it, but again; its personal.
Now where am I comparing this with?
As I've always used the note series, I remember my Note 2 being a beast of a phone, then after that the note 3 was impressive too.
When I had the Note 3, all I heared from people was the device being slow cause of bloatware, which never were a problem to me honostly. In these days Samsungs seems to try to improve that but I can simply not see it.
Also I've installed CM12 on the device, and when I see how butter smooth everything runs, switching from task to task, opening the menu. The expirience just enchances my idea of android. Yet it causes me to be limited with functions I cannot use.
Conclusion;
I always have thought that Samsungs software was ment to work better with their devices, but now I expirience the opposite. CM12 seems to work better for me, but yet I want to make use of the pen, pop up window and some s-health features.
So how do you think about the difference, I am curious how others think about my statements, and how you expirience CM12 <---> Touchwiz.

That's just the love hate relationship that most of us have with touchwiz. Love the extra features it offers over stock but hate the bloated memory hog with inconsistent performance it can be with even the most powerful hardware running it.
My Moto X 2014 lollipop is far smoother, faster, vastly more memory efficient allowing more apps to be open without refreshing content - and this is despite having slower processor, less ram and earlier version of Lollipop (5.0 v 5.0.1)
So yeah touchwiz annoys me, but as you say it offers some great additions over stock android that make you often overlook much of its uglier moments.

My Personal Opinion On This Thread That I'm Not Intrested In Buggy Lollipop Firmware I'm Happy With KK
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It's indeed strange this "update" release. I updated my n910f through Odin to Lollipop and also think to go back to KK again but for now I'm gonna keep Lollipop a little more and hope Samsung briefly release a "definitve" Lollipop update.

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It's indeed strange this "update" release. I updated my n910f through Odin to Lollipop and also think to go back to KK again but for now I'm gonna keep Lollipop a little more and hope Samsung briefly release a "definitve" Lollipop update.
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Armazia said:
I haven't seen much threads like this so I think people seem quite okay with samsungs Lollipop, but for me it seems to be even worse than Kitkat. Let me mention some things.
Wifi;
Nothing seems to work even worse than Wifi for me. I've changed some settings on the router, changed the auto change from 2.4 gHz to 5 to manual, yet I get this problem that the internet is terribly slow at some moments, and it stays there for like 30 minutes(Downloading a simple app from the play store like apex goes with 20 kb/s).
Functionality;
Everything pops in place as I was used to touchwiz, yet I miss the ambient display alot! Its the function that was very usefull on the stock Lollipop update, but yet Samsung decided to not add it to their software.
Performance;
Even while Antutu tells me my phone improved with the update, I can't see it back. some things just seem to be sluggish at some moments. Like the well known recent button problem which I don't really want to discuss as it is known. But also just opening the menu just seems to go with around 15-20 fps for me(Which just looks sluggish).
Now that might just be Eye candy, but I've installed "Sky Force" from the play store, and even that lags when too much happends in the game.
Batterylife;
From 7:00 AM to 19:00 PM I loose around 60-65% battery, I use my phone as a media player, got it connected with a Moto 360 and sometimes I play a game on it, check Facebook. Just the normal stuff I guess, yet I think this is way too much for my daily use, Battery stats pulls it on the Android system, and BBS doesn't seem to give clear answers to me, as there are crucial wakelocks happening which cannot be frozen.
The looks;
Now this is just something personal, as Touchwiz always had the look of a toy in a store with a big red button on it saying "Try me", I still do not prefer its new looks. Everything looks flat and all those colours just make me have a rainbow phone or something. Simply do not like it, but again; its personal.
Now where am I comparing this with?
As I've always used the note series, I remember my Note 2 being a beast of a phone, then after that the note 3 was impressive too.
When I had the Note 3, all I heared from people was the device being slow cause of bloatware, which never were a problem to me honostly. In these days Samsungs seems to try to improve that but I can simply not see it.
Also I've installed CM12 on the device, and when I see how butter smooth everything runs, switching from task to task, opening the menu. The expirience just enchances my idea of android. Yet it causes me to be limited with functions I cannot use.
Conclusion;
I always have thought that Samsungs software was ment to work better with their devices, but now I expirience the opposite. CM12 seems to work better for me, but yet I want to make use of the pen, pop up window and some s-health features.
So how do you think about the difference, I am curious how others think about my statements, and how you expirience CM12 <---> Touchwiz.
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Hey dude!!
Nice work here.
Please, can you tell me where did you find the CM 12 to our Note 4 N910C?
I´d like to install, but i can´t find to download.
Thank you!

renanterzi said:
Hey dude!!
Nice work here.
Please, can you tell me where did you find the CM 12 to our Note 4 N910C?
I´d like to install, but i can´t find to download.
Thank you!
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I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)

Armazia said:
I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)
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Ok man.
Thanks any way!

Armazia said:
I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)
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It's also available for the 910T and 910W8

renanterzi said:
Ok man.
Thanks any way!
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Exynos variants very early builds are being developed by RaymanFX, but we're still far from daily-driver level.

KK is stable for me. I will wait for few more months until bugs have been sorted out.
Note 4

Tip: Samsung is slowing you down.

So I got myself a shiny S6 at launch. I was upgrading from a Nexus5, which, if it weren't for positively atrocious battery life, I'd likely still be using. I have to say, performance-wise, using the S6 was underwhelming. I expected that 'wow this phone is FAST' feeling that I've gotten with every other phone upgrade I've gone through. Then I got used to it and went about my merry way...
Fast forward to a couple of days ago. I decided to repurpose my Nexus5 as my Home Theater remote using a Harmony Hub. I charged it, turned it on and was once again reminded at just how snappy the thing is. Made my S6 feel like a Prius. What I then realized was the the entire reason for this is TouchWiz. In comparing side-by-side, screen transitions, animations, etc. in vanilla Lollipop are either much faster, or simple not there. Samsung tries to add 'flair' and 'gee whiz' stuff which gives the user a false sense of sluggishness. So I fixed it...
TL;DR
In developer options - To get there, settings/about device, and tap build number 7 times. You'll then be a 'developer'. You'll then be able to access dev settings. From there, you'll find 3 options for 'animation scale'. Reduce this setting to either 0.5x or off. Sit back and marvel at how fast your phone ACTUALLY is. I also use Nova Prime launcher which has animation speed settings as well. Give it a shot and let me know what you think.

I think I'll leave my transitions as is, phone is plenty fast, coming from rooted LG G3.
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I have to agree, coming from many "fast" phones like the Nexus series and HTC One series, I don't see any "slow down" from Samsung on my S6. Blazing fast.

To each their own. Don't get me wrong, the phone is blazing fast at tasks, but the task switching animations, etc., are very noticeable to me. With the setting at .5x, it's still clean, but quicker to move around the OS.

My animations are all set to 0 and its blazing fast.

Unfortunately turning them down to 0.5 or 0 makes everything feel very abrupt and not fluid. The 1x makes the animations and transitions flow very nicely!

I came from a N6 to this device & honestly they are neck to neck. The one better thing is the damn camera. If on google would step up there game & would have put in one heck of a camera I would have sticked to my shamu.

I opened and read this thread expecting to see something regarding data speeds and Samsung modems. I thought the Android animation scale options were widely known...guess not. And yes I say Android because it is not Samsung. The HTC phones and LG phones (the only others I have checked) are also set to the default of 1X.

The S6 has been the fastest phone I have used, hands down.
Nexus phones maybe stock android but I find them pretty hideous and hate that they don't have capacitive buttons.
Calling a Nexus phone a Ferrari and and S6 a Prius is an exaggeration. Btw the camera on the Nexus doesn't compare with the S6 (which might arguable be the best camera on any smart phone right now), so the point of this thread is pretty useless.
Go with what you like and enjoy your Nexus 5.

I would say it is more like Nexus=Lotus and GS6=BMW i8. The lotus has no extra features, not even A/C or a radio so they can save on wieght. On the other hand the i8 has the power of a Ferrari but saves in energy with all the bells and whistles. I like all the bells and whistles on the GS6. Finally they got a cpu that can handle all the extras. It is for me the best I've used yet.

Here's a tip, sell your S6 and use your nexus 5.
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First thing I do after flashing or getting a new device is turn on dev options and kill all animations. Anything that appears to make things slower is bad. When I close something I want it GONE instantly. Ditto for PC and Mac. Leave the silly animations for cartoons and kids.

Stock Android is just better than Touchwiz in general. I love my S6. My battery life is phenominal. But damn I miss Cyanogenmod. I fired up my S4 and it does transition faster and smoother than my s6 does so OP has a point. Mind you this doesn't translate to processing power because in that regard my s6 completely demolishes my s4 but when an app is already open and loaded on memory my s4 is faster.
Please lawd please I'm begging you dev gods bring us CM12. I've been reading things about Cyanogenmod not liking exynos. If that's the case and they decide not to make CM for the s6 I'm giving this phone up when jump comes back around in six months.

i have apex launcher running with animation set to .05 everything smooth

H3adru5H said:
Stock Android is just better than Touchwiz in general. I love my S6. My battery life is phenominal. But damn I miss Cyanogenmod. I fired up my S4 and it does transition faster and smoother than my s6 does so OP has a point. Mind you this doesn't translate to processing power because in that regard my s6 completely demolishes my s4 but when an app is already open and loaded on memory my s4 is faster.
Please lawd please I'm begging you dev gods bring us CM12. I've been reading things about Cyanogenmod not liking exynos. If that's the case and they decide not to make CM for the s6 I'm giving this phone up when jump comes back around in six months.
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Yep, that's the same trick that Apple uses too. Short duration animations or better yet, none at all, equal a faster (Appearing) Os. But that's just visual appeal. Luckily like anything on android, we can change that!
X2 on the need for Cm (or other aosp, I loved paranoid android myself) on this phone.
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