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I haven't seen any ROM updates or development news in some time. I was planning on getting the Nexus anyways, but I at least wanted the phone to have life after I passed it on.
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I've been waiting and hoping. I like my bionic a lot.
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We have liberty, that's enough for me. Liberty was all I ran (I tried others but always went back) on my Droid X, with my thunderbolt I only ran BAMF roms. I would like to see more customizable options like power control widget in the notification pull down.
Unfoetinitaly I agree. Having had the evo 4G and the thunderbolt, Dev for this phone seems dead.
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I disagree. Liberty was released just a few weeks ago, the the30ry dev has released two new ROMS, one of which was just updated yesterday, and eclipse will have a 5.7.893 update here soon. In addition, there are devs working to get ICS working on the bionic, and a CM7 project (although I don't know if that's in the works any longer as they have announced CM9 for January). I will say that few of these devs seem to be active on XDA any more, they're all on droidforums and rootzwiki. But they're out there.
It sounds more like the OP is abandoning the Bionic, not the devs.
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It sounds more like the OP is abandoning the Bionic, not the devs.
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And I never tried to deny it. However, I'm passing on the phone to my girlfriend, and I didn't want her to be SOL when it came to the best part of owning an Android device.
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I think this is just part of the "downtime" between releases. We have an OTA on the way that may or may not have additional compared to whats leaked so a lot of devs IMO are waiting for that OTA to come out and then will update their Roms accordingly.
In addition a lot of 3rd party Roms use CM as a base so until CM is finished being ported to the Bionic, this front will probably remain dead. Once we see CM7 done and CM9 starting, i think you'll start to see a bunch of new roms pop up.
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I think this is just part of the "downtime" between releases. We have an OTA on the way that may or may not have additional compared to whats leaked so a lot of devs IMO are waiting for that OTA to come out and then will update their Roms accordingly.
In addition a lot of 3rd party Roms use CM as a base so until CM is finished being ported to the Bionic, this front will probably remain dead. Once we see CM7 done and CM9 starting, i think you'll start to see a bunch of new roms pop up.
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You're probably right.
Surely the parade of better more exciting devices isn't helping.
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I agree I feel UN loved
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Hmm.....
We're supposed to get the OTA and ICS....No???
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I feel the same way about the Photon, but we are making progress too.
Have you guys been able to unlock your bootloaders without loosing LTE? If so, you are at an advantage, but how many of you have developers with this phone?
There is a locked bootloader. The excellent devs have done most of what can be done without that being unlocked. They are not lazy, they just did so well that there is nothing to change until the bootloader is unlocked or motor/Verizon push ics.
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I understand, I am going through the same thing with my Photon, on Sprint, the Now Network.
The devs definitely haven't given up, the Th3ory T3am is working on getting CM9 to boot and a couple of devs over at DF are going through the source code to see if they can unlock the bootloader right now.
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There is a locked bootloader. The excellent devs have done most of what can be done without that being unlocked. They are not lazy, they just did so well that there is nothing to change until the bootloader is unlocked or motor/Verizon push ics.
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A locked BL isn't as big of a hindrance as people think ... really all it stops you from doing is running a custom kernel. You can still make custom roms and over/underclock. Sure it's not ideal bc you have to deal with 2nd init to run CM but otherwise there is still a lot of flexibility. Liberty, Th3ory and eclipse are perfect testaments to that.
it isn't as long as Motorola continues to create roms with kernals for the newest version of android and only as long as it is rootable. The min one of those two things stop happaning we will need kernel access to continue on
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it isn't as long as Motorola continues to create roms with kernals for the newest version of android and only as long as it is rootable. The min one of those two things stop happaning we will need kernel access to continue on
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That's a good point. I would hope that at that point they would at least have the decency to unlock our BL... but who.knows. I'm holding out hope for project cheesecake ... yum I can smell the creamy goodness...
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The Razr came out, all hyped up, and now half of what you see on the forums is talking about how it's not that much different than the Bionic, and it clearly becomes a subjective issue, mainly based on form factor and pentile rgbw/lcd (bionic) vs pentile rgbg/samoled (razr).
The Gnex will likely be similar once it comes out and people realize that its not that much better either. It has pure ICS, but I bet we'll be seeing some of that by the time the Gnex is released anyway - at least some roms based on that source anyway.
Droid 4 is literally a Razr with a kb.
Rezound is great as well, but nothing tremendously better than these others.
My point is this... All of these new phones have something positive and something negative about them. I don't see any good reason why developers would stop supporting the bionic, as it is technically in the same league as all of these other phones. I don't think I'm being too much of an idealist ... at least that's my hope
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I mean, is the d4 going to be overlooked due to the new razr hype?
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i have faith in the Devs that we will see stuff. Even if at first it is ports from the Razar as the hardware is almost identical. Right now there are a few ROMs that are out, but without the files to factory restore a lot of us are not yet wanting to take the risk of loading custom ROMS.
Thats where i stand. Ive only rooted thus far. I went to motorola without doing my homework. Ive had htc phones in the past and loved the roms available for sense. But when i look at the droid roms it seems they must not be as "popular" as the ones for htc sense. But then again i havent participated in the forum scene enough to research yet.
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Sometimes it just take a little longer for them to come out on Motorola but we do get custom ROMs. Once the recovery files are leaked for the Droid 4 fast boot system then I believe we will start to see many more ROMs.
CM9 for Droid 4
I know that the CM9 ICS ROM that hashcode is developing is still in beta stage but honestly that ROM is very stable. I have been using it for over a week testing all the various hardware functions and they all work fine. I was very impressed with it. No major issues with it at all. Just some very minor issues with the software.
whiteout is right.... hashcode's ICS (both CM9 and AOKP) work almost flawlessly for me. I have used both, and they both have everything working, including front facing camera now! with only little bugs here and there that will be worked out shortly.
keep in mind, this phone has only been out for a month, and there are no stock recovery files out there for us if we really eff somthing up.
dont know about you, but i am thrilled with the development so far and LOVING my ICS experience on the droid4.
I know how you feel; this happened to the Droid 2 thanks to the Droid X, but I think it's safe to say that is not the case here. Actually, for there to be a nearly stable ROM for a phone within a month of it being released, is pretty darn awesome! I think the only reason we haven't seen, say, a CM7.1 ROM yet is because everyone is busy working on CM9.
Side note; since we do have all the drivers, is it possible for someone to get CM7.1 compiled for the phone? I suspect this would not take much work for someone who knows what they're doing, and it would be a nice step up from stock for those of us who actually need to keep a stable phone until CM9 is ready.
I really like roms that also add alot of visuals like change the look of the phone
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I can tell you that at the moment we have two good Android ICS roms in the works, I don't know if those will have many visual options.
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Sometimes it just take a little longer for them to come out on Motorola but we do get custom ROMs. Once the recovery files are leaked for the Droid 4 fast boot system then I believe we will start to see many more ROMs.
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I sure hope we get a good stock recovery file soon. I boot-loop bricked my D4 with careless use of Titanium Backup PRO (moving around system Dalvik cache, deleting rather than freezing stock bloat apps, etc.). Since factory resetting hasn't help, I assume I've trashed the system core and need to reflash from stock... which I guess hasn't been released yet. Sigh.
I just got my Droid 4 a few days ago, and quickly tried the ICS/CM9 ROM, and while it still has some kinks to work out, it definatly has a strong following, and Im sure we will get more things in the future.
Whats the newest, most bug free ROM out there for Bionic, thats still getting updates?
I've had the Bionic for a couple of weeks and already got disapointed.
back when i rocked the DX2 i was die-hard Eclipse.
well on bionic i notaced many bugs, and i re-flashed, redownloaded, the works. had the same issues.
anyway. nitro sold his bionic, so no more Eclipse. so i swung to the other side to try Liberty. its cool. no where neer as boss as Eclipse. but they both have pros and cons. anyway.
come to find out Liberty devs stopped for the bionic too. so, my question is, what is the newest, bestest rom, thats still getting updates, and lots of themes? preferably a boss ICS theme D
Active Bionic Roms
There are several alpha and beta Roms out for the Bionic however most of them still have bugs ranging from no 3G/4G to the front facing camera not working. From what I can tell the only stable Rom for the Bionic is gummy. This may be due to the Bionic having a locked boot loader. Hopefully either Nitro will get a used Bionic and continue development or development will increase when or if ICS is officially released on the Bionic.
i hope he does too. i really enjoyed Eclipse. besides the fact thant when i held down the power button to get the reboot options it would just straight up reboot. (very annowing when wanting recovery)
i think the AOKP ICS rom thats out looks mighty spiffy, but i dont know what all doesnt work, and i dont want to risk having to go back to my old old devour. (sold the DX2)
anyway. thanks for your input!
here is me and @insanemods rom mainly his but working on fixing all the bugs stuck at f.c.'s at the moment but mostly works themes galore lockscreen changes and such... here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535293
I'm in the same boat as you, trying to find a stable ROM rather than go back to de-bloated Blur. The only other recommendation I can give besides those already mentioned is dhacker's April 5th nightly of CM9.
I obviously haven't been using it for long, but it has so far has a pretty consistent data connection.
DroidHive -> Downloads -> Bionic -> CM9 SELFKANG BIONIC ICS
I've been running CM9 Unofficial since it dropped. Currently I am on 04-04 and have had stable data and WiFi since I flashed it. HW accel and video are the only things really missing for me. Give it a shot.
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I've been running CM9 Unofficial since it dropped. Currently I am on 04-04 and have had stable data and WiFi since I flashed it. HW accel and video are the only things really missing for me. Give it a shot.
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can you post a link to the rom
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thats sounds really nice. so theres CM9, and CM7.....wheres 8??
but a link would be helpful.
i just want something super stable, that will work with safestrap, and will be getting updated frequently, i like having all the bugs worked out, and having cool new additions
because i liked the option of going into recovery upon each boot.
and is anyone using http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527544 ?
i want a straightforward review of it. dont sugar coat it xD
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here is me and @insanemods rom mainly his but working on fixing all the bugs stuck at f.c.'s at the moment but mostly works themes galore lockscreen changes and such... here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535293
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ive never found MIUI appealing, its not really my cup of tea. it reminds me too much of apple. i really dislike apple stuff
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I'm in the same boat as you, trying to find a stable ROM rather than go back to de-bloated Blur. The only other recommendation I can give besides those already mentioned is dhacker's April 5th nightly of CM9.
I obviously haven't been using it for long, but it has so far has a pretty consistent data connection.
DroidHive -> Downloads -> Bionic -> CM9 SELFKANG BIONIC ICS
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it'd be pretty cool if they had a bug list, and screenshots...
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ive never found MIUI appealing, its not really my cup of tea. it reminds me too much of apple. i really dislike apple stuff
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i can see apple as first install install like nova launcher or apex and the "apple" is gone dude simple as that super customizable at that point.. just sayin' but do what you want..
I do prefer the AOKP ICS rom port over the CM9 just for the little details, but they're rather similar.
Being new to this stuff, I don't know what "Repo Sync & Build" means. But I've used the rom linked below, and in my eyes, it was merely the March 13th nightly of the AOKP rom port--also on droidhive, their latest is april 8th.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527544
Both the AOKP and CM9 4.0.3 roms have the same bugs as mentioned above.
No HW accel. Games crash.
Video has issues.
Data is intermittent. I'll have rock steady data all day, but then the next day it won't work at all.
AOKP:
http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/files/file/37-aokp-selfkang-bionic-ics-403-r1-nightlies/
CM9:
http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/files/file/38-cm9-selfkang-bionic-ics-403-r1-nightlies/
Is there any consensus on which is the most stable ROM with a solid 4G connection?
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Is there any consensus on which is the most stable ROM with a solid 4G connection?
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im with this guy.
even 3G
im using the one on her the repo sync and build ICS AOKP.
well, one thats getting updates like the ICS roms.
like is CM9 or the AOKP better?
or pretty much the same, but with one with 'rom controll"
hell, i wouldnt mind just a port of stock ICS with boss data connectivity.
oh, with the AOKP can i update between nightlys just by wiping cache and flashing, or do i need to factory reset everything?
I use eclipse 2.2 after using liberty for .901. I tried gummy but had issues.
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anyone have a link for a stock 902 thats deodexed and flashable?
The Gummy ICS rom is VERY good and is only missing a working camcorder...and that's it. I ran it for days and ZERO issues, except for that. Eventually I just got too uncomfortable not being able to use the video camera and went back to stock. It just updated yesterday as well, but still no video recording:
http://goo.im/devs/TeamGummy/Roms/Targa
For that gummy ROM do you only flash that one, becsuse the Gapps are part of it?
no there is also a Gapps package for it as well....i'm sure its on their site.
I did not see it unless it isin a different slot than the ROMs. A link would help
I'm wondering If there are some roms that are fully functional. But it wouldn't bother me if the camera or goods doesn't work. And please give me links to the threads.thank you
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I've been running Droid Th3ory's Axiom AOKP Rom for a while now and it's solid. Same stuff doesn't work, like full camera functions and hw acceleration but besides that I've had no issues. Here's the link: http://www.droidhive.com/forums/index.php?/topic/357-romaokp-m4-axi0m-kang-bionic/
Eclipse. I'm sure it will be easier for you to type bionic eclipse into Google to find the link than it will be for me to copy and paste it from my phone.
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Gummy ICS 1.0, everything works except for camcorder and HDMI as far as I can tell. HW acceleration works, data works, 3D games exceptionally well...faster than my Xoom OC'ed to 1.6Ghz running stock speeds on the Bionic.
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Gummy ICS 1.0, everything works except for camcorder and HDMI as far as I can tell. HW acceleration works, data works, 3D games exceptionally well...faster than my Xoom OC'ed to 1.6Ghz running stock speeds on the Bionic.
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HW acceleration works on Gummy now? Last I heard it did not. So does that mean Chrome Browser works now?
Bionic Eclipse is where the good life is at. The 2.2 version based on system .902 is absolutely incredible. Eclipse has been my daily for over 6 months now.
Also, it's bad form to bust into a forum and command people to pass you links. You're already on the internet. This forum has search boxes. You know how to get to google.com. You can do things on your own.
I will say that Eclipse 2.2 is stable to use full time.
I stand corrected, no HW acceleration (feels like it, it's pretty snappy) on Gummy yet. Chrome opens and you can type URLs...but nothing is displayed.
+1 on Eclipse 2.2.
I have not yet tried any of the ICS roms, which, while they have some limitations on camera functions I never use or HDMI, which I never use or will use, are reported to be stable. Droid Hive has those.
As Eclipse is very fast, very stable and has excellent battery life, I see no reason to switch. However, I would love to see a post where someone explains how much improvement I'd see over Eclipse by switching to AOKP, Gummy, etc. I realize that Eclipse is static and that further development is DOA. It is what it is, whereas some incredibly talented developers are tweaking the ICS roms on a daily basis.
eclipse is the best custom room I have ever used. I love it. Every thing works great
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eclipse 2.2
Eclipse 2.2 is also my "daily driver" and it is very stable, one of the most stable "custom" roms I have used on ANY android phone.........but your mileage may vary.
and i like kinetx .902 compatible the best. had my bionic for about 2 months and i always go back to kinetx. the only catch is the dev doesnt work on it anymore. passed it on to someone else. good data/battery life/speed in general. i did come from a droid inc that had hardware issues, though, so maybe its not as great as i think. most of the ics roms (havent flashed one since the end of march) felt buggy and crappy. plus i hate cyan/turquoise. but heres some link love: droid hive http://rombot.droidhive.com/ROMs/targa/
the other 3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455888
in the second link, it tells you about safestrap which avoids bootstrap, but takes away rom manager functionality for flashing roms but gives you a good chance of never fully bricking. it makes a copy of your stock rom and partitions it away, then gives you a partition to play with. read all directions carefully. if ya have bootstrap,uninstall it before you safestrap. have fun.
Zero ICS ROMs for the bionic are fully functional. Eclipse and a few other GB ROMS are the only fully functional ROMS available.
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I have the droid3, thinking about getting the droid4. I see that ICS has leaked, why don't the custom ROMs have full function yet then ?
There are a few reasons:
The leaked ICS builds have only been out for about a week.
The primary Droid 4 AOSP developers (i.e. Hashcode) work on ROMs for multiple devices and only have so much time.
The current ICS ROMs are based on the D4 Gingerbread kernel. There is a new kernel in the leaked ICS builds and the ROMs will likely have to be modified accordingly.
cool man thanks. you think it will be updated fully soon ? are there any major hurdles that would have to be jumped?
Hash code is working on a d4 ics version of safe strap as well as an improved ics rom. I am not sure on the specifics of which one or if its going to be all or a totally new rom based on the leaks. the big difference is everything will work, hardware acceleration, face unlock and basically what does not work in the current roms. I would say in about a week or less we should start to see the ics based roms getting pumped out.
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yeaaa awesome. Hash is the best furreal aha. If he makes all the features i know the AOKP rom (fully functional) will be made by someone eventually. thanks for all your help
I would totally upgrade. I had both as well. Screen is better. Keyboard is better. Form factor is better. And it is getting official ics
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I just recently upgraded to the Droid 4 from the Droid 3. It looks and feels better in the hand though there is allot of extra bessel which is kinda annoying (atleast to me) to look at.
Though the new keyboard is sweet, the new shift posistion still messes me up. Plus it's going to be supported more than the Droid 3 because it has 1 gig of ram (official ICS ) and it's 4G (So verizon approves)
4G has been great, so has been playing games. Haven't tried the GPS yet.
So yeah, its worth the upgrade.