Since the One S C2 (The one with the Snapdragon S3 which has the same architecture as out devices) has gotten its JB leaked, i was wondering how hard would it be to port it over. I have an Incredible 2 but since the 2 and the S are essencially the same device, and you guys are more active, i was wondering if one of you would have any idea on how to.
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Since the One S C2 (The one with the Snapdragon S3 which has the same architecture as out devices) has gotten its JB leaked, i was wondering how hard would it be to port it over. I have an Incredible 2 but since the 2 and the S are essencially the same device, and you guys are more active, i was wondering if one of you would have any idea on how to.
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Hi
It doesn't work that easily We will neeed a booting kernel with ion support (which jb sense needs) not to mention a proper ramdisk and compliant rom.
Yes the base rom is there (For Desire X too which is the same screen res as us) but we will still need a modified kernel
Whether it is ported from a newer device or completely hacked up from ours, it doesn't matter as long as it works I guess
But there are a lot of variables
Just wait....
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Just wait....
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Hey szeso just letting you know, HTC ONE SV is scheduled to get sense 5/JB but when is anyone's guess. I was talking to a HTC dev on twitter and even he confirmed so
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Just wait....
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thaat tells me that you are already cooking somethin Ha ha ha..
Yeah not to mention.. I am waiting for it from long time
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Hey szeso just letting you know, HTC ONE SV is scheduled to get sense 5/JB but when is anyone's guess. I was talking to a HTC dev on twitter and even he confirmed so
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I don't want to wait that much. At first, a Sense 4+ is better from DX, after that the Sense 5 comes.
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I don't want to wait that much. At first, a Sense 4+ is better from DX, after that the Sense 5 comes.
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YOU'RE A LEGEND !
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So I looked at the HTC article of who's getting ICS and Salsa wasn't, but Desire C does. There reason for not updating it is because ICS requires more than 512mb RAM... The same amount of RAM on the Desire C! And we have a faster processor bigger screen and more internal storage! So I email them with this contradiction and get back something along the lines of, we only update our phones if it will improve the user experience...
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That's HTC for u.....
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That's HTC for u.....
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Haha, but do u think ICS will run smooth on salsa? It runs alright on the Desire c
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Haha, but do u think ICS will run smooth on salsa? It runs alright on the Desire c
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i shouldn't see why not..
****ty HTC has not supported salsa,hero,chacha......
but other devs have brought Jelly Bean and Ice Cream Sandwich on the HTC Hero.....
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/jelly-bean-and-ice-cream-sandwich-on-the-htc-hero/
this hero phone had got only 1.5 ver. of android from htc,and the devs ported cm10...... AMAZING !!!!!
so lets learn and together bring ice cream sandwich to salsa!!!!!!
amazing work done by bigbear and razor to work so hard and bring us different great roms till now and also other devs who helped us before...
lets show what we can do to ****TY HTC and what they cant or they wont !!!!!!!
The Kernel is whats stopping the development of the Salsa
They'd have to rewrite the all HTC Sense 4 library files to ARMv6 instead of ARMv7. ARMv6 isn't supposed to run ICS anyway by default (thanks CyanogenMod)
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They'd have to rewrite the all HTC Sense 4 library files to ARMv6 instead of ARMv7. ARMv6 isn't supposed to run ICS anyway by default (thanks CyanogenMod)
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Yeah Gwyn but we can run on them they have the capabilities..I would retrieve my phone back to life within this month
I have got the mail Id of the Taiwan branch ... will extract something from them.
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POSTED MAIL ID IN GENERAL FORUM TOPIC ANY UPDATES ABOVE 2.3.5 FOR HTC SALSA.
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So I looked at the HTC article of who's getting ICS and Salsa wasn't, but Desire C does. There reason for not updating it is because ICS requires more than 512mb RAM... The same amount of RAM on the Desire C! And we have a faster processor bigger screen and more internal storage! So I email them with this contradiction and get back something along the lines of, we only update our phones if it will improve the user experience...
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Mail them back saying I will never let myself or anyone buy a HTC for this indifferent behavior.....
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I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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lol! Cyanogenmod ROM comes first before stock ROM? Ain't believing it buddy
useful ROM = Stock ROM
Nono, the evo 3d has unofficial cyanogenmod at least 3 months after the epic 4g receives official. Two, unofficial AOSP roms seem to be more stable (and released earlier) on galaxy s devices than htc devices why is that? Both being flagships, what leaves htc behind in custom AOSP roms?
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My galaxy s would be on. 2.3, it is now on 4.2. The evo would be on 4.0 with outdated sense, it is now on 4.1. Nexus 7, stock 4.2. I use stock until the phone ages, and stock isn't good enough. I plan to have my next phone for 2 years, I might as well choose a phone that will stay current throughout those two years.
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HTC supports the flagship in every way possible, look at the One X. Even the newly released One is getting OTA at a crazy rate. And for custom rom developers, my Desire HD has fully stable 4.2.2 CM, AOKP and even paranoid. I hope this was helpful
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I really think that the One is getting a huge developer community. Look at the android development thread. 4 ROMs already released (with tweaks) while only a few have got the device till now
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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Some comparison videos on YouTube might help
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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I've never owned a Samsung, but I've owned 2 HTCs, and my device is great in durability. I have this phone for about 2.5 years and I drop it around once every 3 days (obviously not intentionally) and it still runs good, no issues. For Samsung, you should read Samsung forums.
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Ohh ok I got it now. Unfortunately there's won't be any CM or AOSP ROMs until kernel source code is out. Thing is Stock kernel is not compatible with AOSP/CM ROMs and the other way around since both custom and stock has some functions added to the kernel for it to work.
And the thing here is samsung releases kernel source code earlier than HTC. So it really depends on the situation. And by the way samsung is not releasing opening up it's exynos to developers. And now that samsung implemented octa core & big little architecture on their new processors. I doubt they would be able to make a CM/AOSP ROM anytime soon on S4.
I know cm10.1 runs slow as heck on my wife's one x as a custom sense rom works smooth as butter. On my note 2 cm10.1 actually runs better than any touchwiz rom. My advice is to wait until there both out and go see them in person. Both phones will get a good bit of development.
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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You don't need s-off to run aosp. You just need to unlock on htc dev or buy the dev edition one that htc will offer. But yes I'm sure in time we will get s-off for everyone. Lol.. I remember the wire trick, I used to own a rezound, horrid phone. No I just did s-off on my wife's new one x and its just a command line hack and software.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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I dunno as I've run aosp on a few htc's I've had and it ran fine.
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Good question and I have no answer. My hopes is it will get a 4.2.2 update soon after launch.
I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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Doubt that, it's not unusual for phones to ship a version behind. But with the s4 shipping with the latest I'd hope htc will push an update ASAP.
Anyone working on a AOKP rom for this device. As soon as I get it on 4-19 I'll be working on it. Is someone gonna beat me to it.
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this is a noob question, but does the kernel sources they released a few days ago help with the porting of AOKP?
The one doesn't even have S-off yet as the device is fairly new ,so I wouldn't expect anything soon
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S-off has nothing to do with it
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S-off has nothing to do with it
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yes i know, i was making the point that the phone is new and not everything is available yet. Give it time for the right people to play around with the phone 1st.
Best of Luck:thumbup:
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Hey guys.I just get my N4 a few days ago,coming from HTC device.I am a Sense fan.I want to start a project porting Sense 5 from Droid DNA.Searching for team members,who know something about porting.Who's in ?
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Hey guys.I just get my N4 a few days ago,coming from HTC device.I am a Sense fan.I want to start a project porting Sense 5 from Droid DNA.Searching for team members,who know something about porting.Who's in ?
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I don't know anything about porting or making ROMs but I would love to see a port of sense 5
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About time! In the nexus 7 forums someone made a touchwiz rom and I asked about sense and was told it's impossible. Given the similarities in the htc one x, and htc one architecture vs our chipset I don't think it's impossible, not at all. I'd love to help if I knew how to develop, but best of luck to ya!
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Count me in for testing and applications, but as for coding, I'm a lost cause, even with a masters in tech. I can show someone how to USE or APPLY a product in the field once its created, but creation, I'll leave it to the pros! If there is anything I can do on the application/UI/FAQ/Help side that doesn't require coding, let me know.
I can definitely do any testing you need
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About time! In the nexus 7 forums someone made a touchwiz rom and I asked about sense and was told it's impossible. Given the similarities in the htc one x, and htc one architecture vs our chipset I don't think it's impossible, not at all. I'd love to help if I knew how to develop, but best of luck to ya!
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The issue has nothing to do with chipsets or hardware. It is all software. Sense requires HTC frameworks and drivers to work. Many have tried and in the end things like data, wi-fi, GPS and things like that dont work. Trust me many high level devs have tried it and all have failed.
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The issue has nothing to do with chipsets or hardware. It is all software. Sense requires HTC frameworks and drivers to work. Many have tried and in the end things like data, wi-fi, GPS and things like that dont work. Trust me many high level devs have tried it and all have failed.
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I get that but it's not impossible. Usually if you can find a device with the same chipset, it can be done. Devs in the HTC Flyer forum got ics with sense 4.0 ported because of the HTC One V having the same chipset. For us, DROID DNA would be the best place to start.
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I get that but it's not impossible. Usually if you can find a device with the same chipset, it can be done. Devs in the HTC Flyer forum got ics with sense 4.0 ported because of the HTC One V having the same chipset. For us, DROID DNA would be the best place to start.
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They were both HTC devices. The first nexus from HTC got a sense port as well.
Does htc modify their hardware in some way? You'd think underneath it all they would be identical to everything else. Forgive me I'm not a developer.
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Does htc modify their hardware in some way? You'd think underneath it all they would be identical to everything else. Forgive me I'm not a developer.
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It is mostly a driver issue. The drivers are only made to work with HTC hardware. While the base hardware is the same things like the radio antenna, wifi, antenna, and things like this are different depending on the device. They are also programed very differently depending on the OEM. Without any of the Sense drivers for the OS those things dont work. This is how OEM keep their version of Android on their devices alone.
It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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Have a look at the other Dev threads about this. They maybe able to help and save you alot of trouble. Good luck.
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Have a look at the other Dev threads about this. They maybe able to help and save you alot of trouble. Good luck.
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Thanks.I've already talked to a good porter,he also ported Sense 5,he will help me.
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It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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If you need anyone to test let me know
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Tried to port sense this way some days before I saw this.
I was pretty sure it would fail, but I gave it a try.
The only thing I reached was a bootloop
Is sense 5 in the future of HTC incredible s?
I mean the HTC butterfly just got it officially
So does this mean it can be easily ported in the future to our device ? And if so when will it possible ?
I am a little newbie when it comes to developing Roms and porting
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Adding to that HTC one s got a beta Rom of sense 5 too thanks to xda community of course (great developers everywhere)
So what we are waiting for is the ion kernel which I think is almost done working and what next?
Please advice
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Is sense 5 in the future of HTC incredible s?
I mean the HTC butterfly just got it officially
So does this mean it can be easily ported in the future to our device ? And if so when will it possible ?
I am a little newbie when it comes to developing Roms and porting
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Adding to that HTC one s got a beta Rom of sense 5 too thanks to xda community of course (great developers everywhere)
So what we are waiting for is the ion kernel which I think is almost done working and what next?
Please advice
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Yes its true that we still need a kernel for Jellybean Sense. We can hope for it this month (or the next).
However, all the devices that have received Sense 5 beta or what not are all the 1080p devices so for a team of HTC developers, it might not be too difficult to just port it over since there (shouldn't) be any re-sizing to do. For our device, its possible although I can't imagine what single person would spend the time re-sizing all the HTC apps and what not.
Sense 4+ would be significantly more realistic because there are devices with Sense 4+ that have the same resolution as our phone, so (I'm not a developer so don't take my word for granted) I'd assume that it would be just exchanging libs, correcting frameworks here and there, make modifications to make it run smoother and better etc.
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Yes its true that we still need a kernel for Jellybean Sense. We can hope for it this month (or the next).
However, all the devices that have received Sense 5 beta or what not are all the 1080p devices so for a team of HTC developers, it might not be too difficult to just port it over since there (shouldn't) be any re-sizing to do. For our device, its possible although I can't imagine what single person would spend the time re-sizing all the HTC apps and what not.
Sense 4+ would be significantly more realistic because there are devices with Sense 4+ that have the same resolution as our phone, so (I'm not a developer so don't take my word for granted) I'd assume that it would be just exchanging libs, correcting frameworks here and there, make modifications to make it run smoother and better etc.
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I see but HTC one s got sense 5 and it's not 1080p so you were saying?
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I see but HTC one s got sense 5 and it's not 1080p so you were saying?
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One s has resizing issues
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One s has resizing issues
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Explain please. Issues like what exactly?
I know that there are problems considering the rom itself like Bluetooth not working and other stuff
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Explain please. Issues like what exactly?
I know that there are problems considering the rom itself like Bluetooth not working and other stuff
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One s is qHD
It was ported from One which is fHD
It can be resized but there are problems as is
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