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[Q] Good time to buy a new phone?

I hate to make another good bye thread, but I think its time for me to upgrade. Our dev community is all but dead (besides for the CM10 JB Rom), and I think I just need a new phone.
Is it a good time to get a new phone? Im looking for a top of the line high end phone on AT&T. I was looking at the One X+ but the Tegra 3 chip seems like its a little old. Im also not a big fan of the LG Optimus. Im really liking the Droid DNA but the fact that there is 16gb non expendable storage and the off contract price is $600 (it comes unlocked so it works on AT&T) is kind of a deal breaker.
Should I Wait for CES and hope that more Snapdragon 4 Pro, 1080p phones will come? Or should I just get the One X+?

I would just buy a Nexus 4. I just did. It isn't here yet, but it is going to be aweeesome.

As soon as Google gets more, I'm buying a nexus 4 also! I'm still going to keep this phone as a backup/tethering device (I need LTE speeds to tether).
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gotzaDroid said:
As soon as Google gets more, I'm buying a nexus 4 also! I'm still going to keep this phone as a backup/tethering device (I need LTE speeds to tether).
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But then Im stuck with no lte, 16gb of storage, and its still $300. I would rather go with the one x+ then.
My question was really if it seems like there will be a new wave of android phones in the near future (CES.)

thekalby said:
But then Im stuck with no lte, 16gb of storage, and its still $300. I would rather go with the one x+ then.
My question was really if it seems like there will be a new wave of android phones in the near future (CES.)
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I guess I can overlook those things because I hate the bull **** of skins like sense and touch wiz. Also too, I can't stand the service providers bastardizing the software with their bloat.
But to better answer your question, CES always has new stuff rolling out, but it's really up to what you want. This ain't like the iPhone where there's only one phone a year to look forward to. There's always a new phone coming out with Android on it. Look at how fast the one X+ came out after the one X.... If there's not a phone right now that makes you want to run out and buy it, wait till that one comes around... Or until your current phone breaks!
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gotzaDroid said:
I guess I can overlook those things because I hate the bull **** of skins like sense and touch wiz. Also too, I can't stand the service providers bastardizing the software with their bloat.
But to better answer your question, CES always has new stuff rolling out, but it's really up to what you want. This ain't like the iPhone where there's only one phone a year to look forward to. There's always a new phone coming out with Android on it. Look at how fast the one X+ came out after the one X.... If there's not a phone right now that makes you want to run out and buy it, wait till that one comes around... Or until your current phone breaks!
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Thats the problem, my Vivid is slow as anything and is getting awful battery life running desensed. With a new phone im either going to sacrifice LTE and storage or processor and ram.

There is stock based, miui or desensed roms it's not that bad
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ZeRo2o9 said:
There is stock based, miui or desensed roms it's not that bad
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there all stockbased, or have a bit of the htc frameworks in them since htc takes googles code, f*cks it up, moves everything around, and then releases it

XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
there all stockbased, or have a bit of the htc frameworks in them since htc takes googles code, f*cks it up, moves everything around, and then releases it
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My vivid isnt slow at all..... But my phones running 1.5 ghz. Try raidcity. It is a really smooth Rom and I have not had any problems at all.. but make sure u use kozmiks kernel instead of the stock and the s3 gpu drivers

nexus 4
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I ain't going to lie, I would rather have a phone with more storage or an sd, a removable battery, and lte, but I just don't trust carrier phones anymore so I bought a nexus 4 and I am patiently waiting for it to get here, but figured the sacrifices would be worth it to not have to deal with the hurdles modern phones have just to delete unwanted bloatware, and have wifi tethering with no bs monthly charge.
I really love the one X plus, but I am a bit afraid of it. Afraid it's this year's vivid, a filler phone with locked down hardware and piss poor support. Honestly with my impatience over the nexus 4, I played with all the carrier phones and the answer is a no brainer. Galaxy s3!
Galaxy S3 is as close to a no compromise phone as it gets. Sure its only been dual core, but it's a bad ass dual core, and it's got 2 gigs of ram, and it just got its jelly bean update, and development is off the chain, hell its practically the flagship for the cm team! Accessories are on the level of apple products.. In fact by all means it's the anti iphone.
It looks good, and if you can't deal with TouchWiz, you have most likely an overwhelming amount of options.
Only downsides to it is if your a screen perfectionist you'll probably hate the pentile 4.8 inch 720p AMOLED screen. I personally think it's gorgeous and I can't even tell the difference between pentile and non pentile anyway and I prefer amoled anyway for better brightness, deeper blacks, and better battery life.
My other gripe with it is the dated button layout. I do like physical buttons over the nexuses virtual buttons as the virtual buttons sacrifice screen real estate, but I prefer the new layout as menu is just useless after ics.
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To summarize if you can't deal with the sacrifices that come with the Nexus 4, then the Galaxy S3 is the ONLY phone worth buying! Okay well the note 2 as well if you're into ridiculously stupid large phones, a personal preference thing, I don't care for it myself
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Good time to buy a new phone?
I know you posted this awhile ago, but, if you were to get a new phone this week, you'd literally be getting a new phone the week the main CM10 ROM issue for Holiday (AT&T in-call microphone) is solved.
So, no, if you're thinking of getting a new phone this week, I'd wait. We're going to have a ton of roms pouring in over the next few weeks.

Want to kill the lag? Put wcx's stock rom on, and leave it be! Seriously, any mods will just add lag, deal with sense 3.6 and put that rom on and you'll be happier. Trust me it's worked for me
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Or run any of the cm10 builds...
I like PACMan...
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I bought a optimus. Best phone ever. No bull****. Fast. Fast. Fast. Can have up to 80 gig storage. Most powerful quad core. Most powerful GPU. Most ram (2gigs). Fast. But I still play with this phone still Cuz I really like it.
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Not a bad choice, it's the same phone as the nexus 4 but with lte, and an sd slot, and of course LGs customized version of ics instead of raw android 4.2. I considered one but am worried about development on it
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Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA

Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.

rault18 said:
I had to do it.. It was needed specially after the iphone 5 comparison video I got a lot of pms and requests so I had both of them at home and said..why not?
Remember..this is not stock vs stock, however a ROM'd s3 but for the purpose of the video I think it works just fine
Well enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
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Great review. Wow, the nex 4 screen looks beautiful.
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Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.

TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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If it wasn't for the nex 4 I would have gotten either an gs3 or a note2. The GS3 is definitely a decent phone. Still for the money I think the nex wins.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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SO DAMN TRUE!!!
And you see people saying oh look how fast it is, and the previous device was a nokia with flashlight or an iphone
WTH! -_-

For my two pence worth I had the s3 went back to my gnex awaiting the n4. I love just stock. Also I agree with the comment above about going back to operator logos on handsets. Its hideous. I know why they do it but its horrid. As for the s3 it was very very fast and more than enough for most but after 4 months of use and adding all my stuff to the device it did slow a bit. Not a huge amount by any means but for hard core users it was there plus I couldn't live with the dismal redraw issue when coming out of apps yo the home screen . I know the Gnex is far from perfect but besides battery life I would have the Gnex as my every day phone anytime. So I decided to go for the n4 as my main phone for the next year as it should perform just the same but look better and have a bit more use with the bigger battery although I know tests don't show it being much better. A little would do me. Anyway awesome video and thank you for taking the time to do it
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manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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+1 on this.
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TrueBrush said:
Galaxy s3 is for a general population who are inclined to buy stuff form ads but have no idea what an Android is.
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I wouldn't necessarily agree with that. For a user like myself in the states, the lack of LTE was the deciding factor for me between the GSIII and N4. I wouldn't call myself general population and I know what Android is, lol.
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Galaxy series is brilliant, but touchwiz is a piece of shyte next to stock android. Also there's no substitute for getting updates on time.

The Nex 4 looks nice, but not having a removable battery like my old EvoLTE and only having 16GB of storage without the ability to upgrade are killers for me. The GS3 development community is Legit as well. I only have 4GB left on my microSD and 3GB left on my onboard 16GB GS3. The battery and storage issues are a Fail IMHO for the Nex4. There is no way I could use it as my everyday camera, video recorder, offline music player, and document storage device. Also, when traveling out of town, you realize how much having extra batteries around makes things a whole lot easier, especially when you are using your phone as a GPS and listening to your offline music on flights (I did have the mobile battery juice device when I had the EvoLTE but it really didn't help).
I use Nova Launcher and HD Widgets so no need for TouchWiz. I will say the Sense and TouchWiz Calendar and Appointments look and function way better than the stock Android Calendar.
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That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google. It's nice to be able to call someone within a text conversation just by putting the phone to your face or to have the screen automatically stay on as long as you're looking at it. These are features that I actually consider highly useful in the real world. Flame away, but with today's processing power and Samsung's openness to bootloader unlocking and dev community, I actually consider pure Google to be a step backwards FOR ME.
Glad that you guys are starting to get your phones though. I canceled after I received the bo email.
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I got a SGH-I747 from Telus. Paid $0 for it.
It's "only" a dual core, but it has 2 gigs of RAM. And not a single logo on the front.
I'm running CM10 on it. With the 4.2 keyboard and camera/gallery. So maybe I don't know what Android is all about.
I might still get a N4 if Google ever allows me to buy one. But for now, I'm enjoying my S3 very much.

I can't wait for my n4 please please let it arrive this week!!
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I love my Nexus and exclusively buy Nexus brand phones ever since the Nexus S, but I wouldn't call the GS3 just a device for the general consumer. Its component sheet is very good and is still considered a high end phone several months after its release. It does have some good dev support (though Samsung could be a lot more helpful with getting more info about their processors out there) and considering many chose that device after the Galaxy Nexus failed to impress when it was finally announced. Personally I prefer stock Android but there are a couple features I wouldn't mind cherrypicking from the S3 like screenshots, tap to top, and not having the screen go to sleep when you're looking at it. Having sais that, the phone I chose is definately the right one for me and I belive it to be superior to the S3. Also it will be supported longer than the S3 from Google and the dev community.

manlisten said:
Call me superficial but I don't think I could go back to using a phone with logos on the front.
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That's exactly what I just thought.. Though I don't have the nexus 4 right now, I will never go back to a device with a ****ty logo on the front.
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barondebxl said:
Its not only for them. Also for the android enthusiasts. It has an unlock boot loader and great Dev support.
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Yeah, no. How is that Exynos 4 without any kind of documentation treating you?

powerwagon said:
That is truly one of the most ignorant statements I've seen on xda in quite some time...and there have been a bunch lately. Besides having more storage, LTE, removable battery, nicer camera and more options...yea, I'll stick with my "general population" phone...Lol. I had the Galaxy Nexus for a while and just left the One X for the Note 2 (similar to the S3...that's why I chimed in)...the first thing I do with any of my Android phones (this is my 6th) is change to Nova Launcher...so while pure Android had it's advantages a year or more ago, that is far from the case now with the heavy duty processors being offered in combination with these launchers. I have debloated my phone, run Nova and also have all the little motion gadgets that are actually useful that are not options on pure Google.
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i have played around with my friend's Note 2 for a whole day and i decided to install Nova to see if stock Android isn't worth it anymore. it turns out it is. Nova + Touchwiz was not as stable or fast (by that i mean touch responsiveness) as my Galaxy Nexus. i wanted to believe it since i am paying almost as much for the Nexus 4 and i really appreciate the Note 2's battery but i just wasn't convinced.

Hmmm... I've sold my SGS2 and waited for N4 but.... SOLD OUT...
This gave me more time to think about and I've realized that getting N4 was like step back to me.. Didn't want to end up like all iPhone users... Easy to break glass all around, very limited storage and non-removable battery.. I'm Not saying N4 is bad but it's Not perfect... (to me not even close to perfect...)
Android Support will be better for N4 and the Hardware is slightly better but I'm very happy with what I've got. It runs super smooth, using GO launcher, 2GB RAM makes a huge difference comparing to S3 tho.
To me GT-I9305 FTW
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No More Nexus 4.

I tried to like this phone, but I have come to the realization that I just don't. No bumper, charging mat or screen protector has helped me enjoy it anymore. Getting this device to work correctly on at&t is a nightmare, I'm having connection issues to this day. No apn, imei or change of plan has fixed it. The phone has light bleed, which is frustrating to look at and buzzing which is annoying to hear. Rma is not my thing it takes to long and I've heard to many horror stories.
Stock android is nice though I feel the experience of say the note 2 is better. I'd rather have a skinned version of android and then when I am looking for a vanilla look and feel I can ROM aokp or cm 10 which seems to be the better version of stock android anyway with added utility and customizations.
Think my run with at&t and my nexus is over. Time for a new beginning with Verizon LTE which is available 100% in my area where at&t is not and I think I'm going with a droid DNA.
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Cool story bro. Tell it again..:thumbup:
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Good choice man! this device is not for everyone :good:
As for me AT&T works fine in my area, never had any problems. Had a few friends not getting signal earlier with their sprint iphones and I let them use mine to make a call :silly:

Hey man, it's your choice! Pure capitalistic decision here. You are not satisfied with the device, which you have every right to feel that way. It doesn't fit your needs and you like the Note 2. You don't need some AOSP zealots approval to move on. I hate AT&T personally. They treat you like crap, and though they are the No.2 carrier, with GSM, I wouldn't go back to them for all the tea in China. If I was a high roller, I might consider Verizon as they hands down have the best coverage in the USA. Their 3g is slower than my T-Mobile... and even sometimes their LTE, but good luck getting ANY 3g coverage in upstate NY (aunt lives there) on T-Mobile outside Rochester proper. If you would be served better with a Verizon Note 2, go there brother and be happy with your purchase! I personally don't want to go back to touchwiz (been AOSP too long), but the phone is awesome! Has a beautiful screen, expandable storage, great processor, 2nd best Android battery life (Razr HD Maxx being No.1), S-Pen, multi-window multitasking, etc.
Don't think you have to have a Nexus or the acceptance of the Nexus crowd. Vote with your bucks and your feet. Wish you well with the Note 2.

Are you going to sell the Nexus?
I personally have had zero issues on AT&T via Straight Talk and love this device. I would highly recommend sticking with a GSM provider though, if you have service in your area, T-Mobile perhaps? As GSM unlocked devices gives one much more freedom to move carriers, plus, I suffered hell with Verizon, they are by far one of the worst companies I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with; never again.
Either way, good luck.

It's called T mobile?
I honestly never see the purpose of these threads. The forum isn't your personal blog. And I don't think any body necessarily has any care what you're saying (as mentioned previously by the person who said cool story bro). If you don't like the phone that's fine, just be on your way. Not being mean or anything but the general forum isn't ones blog
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We don't need a thread to be made just because someone is either new to the device or if they're selling it. Just move along quietly and it will be better for everyone.
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how much for the n4???

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how much for the n4???
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Buying a device on xda is against the rules
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Guys, we should band together and hold a candlelight vigil in an attempt to convince the OP to stick with the Nexus. That's what a good community does, right?
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The beauty of android is, there are tons of devices out there and great choices. Ill suggest the note 2.
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thegregulator said:
Guys, we should band together and hold a candlelight vigil in an attempt to convince the OP to stick with the Nexus. That's what a good community does, right?
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Nah, we'll just tie him up to a log and send him off in a viking funeral.......except that he is still breathing when we light the first torch.

inseconds99 said:
I tried to like this phone, but I have come to the realization that I just don't. No bumper, charging mat or screen protector has helped me enjoy it anymore. Getting this device to work correctly on at&t is a nightmare, I'm having connection issues to this day. No apn, imei or change of plan has fixed it. The phone has light bleed, which is frustrating to look at and buzzing which is annoying to hear. Rma is not my thing it takes to long and I've heard to many horror stories.
Stock android is nice though I feel the experience of say the note 2 is better. I'd rather have a skinned version of android and then when I am looking for a vanilla look and feel I can ROM aokp or cm 10 which seems to be the better version of stock android anyway with added utility and customizations.
Think my run with at&t and my nexus is over. Time for a new beginning with Verizon LTE which is available 100% in my area where at&t is not and I think I'm going with a droid DNA.
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Feel sorry for you, love mine N4!
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Damn, how much is that Verizon plan going to cost a month?
Enjoy your new phone though Droid DNA looks like a great phone too.

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We don't need a thread to be made just because someone is either new to the device or if they're selling it. Just move along quietly and it will be better for everyone.
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This.
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Any phone announced at CES that destroy the N4?

Like the title says, anyone see anything so far that completely blows away the N4? There are quite a few brands I am not familiar with and am wondering if they take as long to get updates like samsung, htc, etc. If a phone had significantly better specs but also got quickly updated would price be the only advantage the N4 had?

There are no major flagship phones being announced as CES. That really isn't the show for mobile.

What is the show for mobile then? I saw a few from CES that looked like it would be that manufacturers flagship.

Just the Sony Xperia Z. But everyone who's done a comparison with that phone vs Nexus 4 was a little :silly:
I dont think the Xperia Z will get any faster updates than the Nexus 4. It will promise the consumers, but in the end not provide them with the results.
Design looks cool for it. I still prefer the Nexus 4 over that. The camera sensors on Son'y phones aren't that great even pushing 13 megapixels.

The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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kioshi said:
Just the Sony Xperia Z. But everyone who's done a comparison with that phone vs Nexus 4 was a little :silly:
I dont think the Xperia Z will get any faster updates than the Nexus 4. It will promise the consumers, but in the end not provide them with the results.
Design looks cool for it. I still prefer the Nexus 4 over that. The camera sensors on Son'y phones aren't that great even pushing 13 megapixels.
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Sony has botched updates before. The Nexus 4 will definitely get updates first, if the Xperia Z even gets them.
Samsung didn't announce a new phone, I don't even believe HTC is there. Asus may have something.
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Ace42 said:
The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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Current technology will always get murdered by newer technology.
Stick to one and buy the next new thing 1-2 years later.
The Nexus 4 will handle the next 3 updates easily as well as new games.
My Incredible is rocking 4.2.1 rom. Everything works on it, but i use it as a Google Music stream machine and the N4 as a daily phone.
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Sony has botched updates before. The Nexus 4 will definitely get updates first, if the Xperia Z even gets them.
Samsung didn't announce a new phone, I don't even believe HTC is there. Asus may have something.
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True, and they wonder why they are doing bad in the smartphone era. Maybe if they brought some of their high end lineups from Japan to other parts of the world, they'd be able to hold up to Samsung and others.
Asus i think has a new 7in tablet and something else i read.

kioshi said:
Current technology will always get murdered by newer technology.
Stick to one and buy the next new thing 1-2 years later.
The Nexus 4 will handle the next 3 updates easily as well as new games.
My Incredible is rocking 4.2.1 rom. Everything works on it, but i use it as a Google Music stream machine and the N4 as a daily phone.
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I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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Ace42 said:
I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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thought you were going to upgrade this year haha,
I mean, core2 duo isn't that bad vs i5. I can run all my design applications + 2012 Solidworks application easily.
2014 will be a interesting year for the smartphone wars. Sprint will go away and Softbank will enter US market w/ supposedly 2500mhz band.

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thought you were going to upgrade this year haha,
I mean, core2 duo isn't that bad vs i5. I can run all my design applications + 2012 Solidworks application easily.
2014 will be a interesting year for the smartphone wars. Sprint will go away and Softbank will enter US market w/ supposedly 2500mhz band.
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I love this thing too much to let it go. I much rather get a pc/console for gaming and wait for octocore or little.big phones.
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Ace42 said:
The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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What phone has this chip? Or will? ....
I hate all tegra chips. I doubt the 4 will be anygood either.
Lets not even talk about the lack of games for Andriod. I still aint seen a game thats worth a damn, and none of them are graphically intense.....
But ok we all seem to need 50 core death phones. With fricken lazers on thier back sides.
Muwahahaha

Ace42 said:
I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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Wait, what? Are you saying tegra3 to krait is a downgrade?

NoL1m1tZ said:
What is the show for mobile then? I saw a few from CES that looked like it would be that manufacturers flagship.
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The show for mobile is Mobile World Congress scheduled on February 25-28.
Also some large manufacturers can host an individual event for a single flagship release.
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I haven't seen any real phones announced yet, but who cares it'll just be more carrier crap complete with locked bootloaders, outdated versions of android with skins. And the new snapdragons and tegra 4 are beasts but I have a hard time believing at this point you'd actually notice a difference, as everything is literally instant on the nexus 4
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I think I saw an XDA booth at the show?

Cor-master said:
I haven't seen any real phones announced yet, but who cares it'll just be more carrier crap complete with locked bootloaders, outdated versions of android with skins. And the new snapdragons and tegra 4 are beasts but I have a hard time believing at this point you'd actually notice a difference, as everything is literally instant on the nexus 4
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:silly: that's why you buy it unlocked instead of buying a branded carrier locked model

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:silly: that's why you buy it unlocked instead of buying a branded carrier locked model
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Not in the states. At least not for a reasonable price.
At any rate for any real good phone ever get announced at CES? Usually ces guarentees a bust. The xperia ion was a big phone at CES last year, but by the time it came out, it was old news and much weaker than the competition. IMO the best phones come out in the second half of the year, the filler crap gets announced at CES
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They did announce a phone with some sandpaper taped to its back.
Word on the street is it has the potential to destroy the N4.

Factor in price and constant updates and I don't think anything comes close. A faster processor and other things like that are less important.
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jmcsk8 said:
They did announce a phone with some sandpaper taped to its back.
Word on the street is it has the potential to destroy the N4.
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He he he
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Nexus 4 Backlash

I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.

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I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I don't think you're gonna find anyone who dislikes the Nexus 4 here bro

jlbanks said:
I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I have a note 2, gs3, gs2, galaxy nexus, droid RAZR, iPhone 5, and a nexus 4. Guess which one is my favorite? The nexus 4!!
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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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I don't know, people like to nitpick. My problem with the Nexus 4 is the same as the Galaxy Nexus I previously owned, its never 100% perfect, even after an RMA, there is still a bit of black light bleeding, a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, my wireless charging orb stopped working, had to RMA that, and so on, the Nexus line to me has always had some flaws in terms of hardware reliability.
That being said, the Nexus 4 is among the most beautiful phones, up there with the high end Xperia phones, and with amazing hardware, so asides from the hardware imperfections that one might encounter if unlucky, its a great phone.
I cannot think of a single phone other than the new Xperia (if aosp) that is coming out that I would trade my Nexus 4 for.

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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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People bash it because they don't have it
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People bash it because they don't have it
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you just might be right sir. This is actually my first nexus device. I honestly was really close in getting the S3 until I saw this technological beauty being demoed at a local T-Mobile store. I swear I heard the phone calling my name lol. I immediately forgot all about the S3 and purchased the N4 full price.

Where is this so called backlash at?
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Don't pay attention to ***** ratings.. Nothing but a popularity contest.. Read the conclusions and see if the `cons' are anything you deem a problem. They focused on lack of LTE which is a legit gripe no matter how you spin it and how well HSPA+ works.. It is a technology that is sort expected now a days. But.. Unless it personally affects you.. Then it doesn't matter..
They also focused on calling it "uninspiring" "not expanding the Nexus brand".. That's when I stop taking them seriously.. When reviewers start getting all Martha Stewart on you.. It's time to stop reading.

It is just not flawless: back glass, which can crack in any day, noise from earpiece, non-vibrant screen - these spoil impression from the phone. It is my first nexus devise (I had xperia Ion before it) and I expected much more from it. I still haven't decided which one to sell - Nexus or Ion. Ion is flawless except that hardware quite old.

And that's what makes the difference between the nexus 4 and everything else. It will constantly get updates before any other phone. I can totally understand the glass back being fragile.
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?

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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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For me it doesn't matter how much it costs - I could buy iphone 5, but I don't like iOS. Price is just a good bonus. Having top hardware specs is good, but will not you feel disappointed if your back glass is cracked? And this state of waiting and checking if it is cracked or not... I hate being in situation like this. Maybe in some time I will stop thinking of this. Will not you be disappointed if you had another device with worse specs, but with so much better display?

That's a good question...
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I'm not saying cost should be a factor, but rather value. Look at what u get for such a low cost. I can understand the glass back being an issue. But I'd rather have the back shatter then the display itself. Luckily I have a case. Either way I would be disappointed. But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?
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I'm not sure as of yet. From what I've read it hasnt been that much of an issue unless you're doing extreme multitasking. So far Ive played Need for Speed Most Wanted while listening to music and it hasnt shut down yet. It does heat up though but not bad enough to shut the entire phone down.

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But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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I spent 475$ for 16 GB version - that is its price in the UK. And i spent about 100$ for different accessories for it (skins, cases, etc). Maybe if lived in US and bought it for 300 I would have a different opinion