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If anyone can help, I just need to know one thing before I get one of these.
How long does the battery last with direct mail on all the time using a 3G connection.
My Touch keeps it going for 2 days (at a push) on GPRS.
I dont think it can last that long.
I took off from the power source at 9.00 saturday morning and used couple of times for 3G internet browsing, trying configurations, browsing again. And was turned off during saturday evening.
When I back at home, Sunday 19:00, it was 9% left.
Btw, I dont use push mail and not always connected to 3G.
If you dont have GPS/constant GPRS connections active, then I'm fairly sure the life will be respectable once the battery is conditioned.
Currently, under heavy use mine lasts from 9am to about 11pm. The battery has only had three days of charging though, and wont be optimal just yet.
I think thats where the problem is going to be, if direct push keeps the data connection going all the time its going to last about 3 hours, maybe more with the screen off.
Anyone doing this on a daily basis? Its a shame 3G uses so much power, as I said GPRS/direct push can go almost 2 days on my Touch/Elf.
Might have to give this a miss then, which is a shame.
mattpark,
Interesting ... How to make it optimal then?
By fully charging it several times?
Or by connecting it to a power source all the time?
Thanks
gogol said:
mattpark,
Interesting ... How to make it optimal then?
By fully charging it several times?
Or by connecting it to a power source all the time?
Thanks
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Make sure you always charge the battery completely full (ie till the light comes on green) the first 5 to 10 times...
FULL means charging it double the time it takes for the light to become green. Green light means 90% (although indicators show 100%), and the last 10% takes the double the time to 'squeeze' in there
A battery has to 'set'.... So be sure you to follow this guide
Mt 8525 would last *most* of the day with direct push.
If I spoke on the phone more than a couple hours the batter would be dead or at least turning its self off by 5pm.
I'm wondering if the 8925 will be the same?
I purchased an extended battery which lets me use the phone all day.. but for a 3600 batter that's huge and requires a custom back it only lasts 2 days at best so far. I've been testing 2 weeks.
I may not get an extended battery because this huge backing is anoying and ruins the look of the phone. I love how the kaiser looks and would hate to ruin that. I would get an extended if it fit into the case itself.
Bottom line though I think an extended battery of some sort of absolutely required if you use push mail.. the only question is how long it will last.
Oh balls, Ive just bought one - So thats nokia e65, tytn1, htcs710, htc touch and tytn2 all inside 5 months!!
If you're concerned w/push email and less with web surfing, you can change the band the phone uses to plain GSM (EDGE) and that would allow you to use it for days at a time.
Using 3G/HSDPA, mine lasts from around 7AM to about 3PM with push constantly running and at least 2 hours of web surfing and about 1/2 hour of phone usage.
Hope that helps.
is it possible to disable 3g under configuration settings?, It is not really needed most of the time!
Disabling 3G
Go to Phone, settings, select band, i think choose GSM only, that should do it. There are some apps too that can do this for you on the TYTN.
your battery will go from 8-12 hrs to 24+, and thats w/ push email, i really couldn't care if a 16k email comes in 6 seconds or 2???
do you?
Battery life so far has been okay (only been using for about 2 days). I have direct PUSH activated but I am only using edge. I take a couple of calls per day + 10 min internet browsing. Battery is about 10-15% at 10 pm at night. My day starts around 9 am.
PS- just a reminder to uncheck the "receive incoming beams" in Settings menu if you don't use that function to save some battery life.
drunkm3nky said:
PS- just a reminder to uncheck the "receive incoming beams" in Settings menu if you don't use that function to save some battery life.
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There's no infrared support on this device, so I'm not sure if that option does anything. Strange that they kept the .cpl though (had assumed it was accidentally left in the as-yet-unfinished AT&T roms).
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If you don't want your data connection open all the time, try installing GBSoft's GPRS & Audio Tweak program. Get it here: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
You can set it to turn off your GPRS connection every x minutes.
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rolandrat said:
If anyone can help, I just need to know one thing before I get one of these.
How long does the battery last with direct mail on all the time using a 3G connection.
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For the first week I was playing with the phone a lot, so battery was draining quickly. But last two days I've got easier, so after ~25 hours since disconnecting charger, I still have 57% battery left.
Generally, I think battery life would be more or less like Hermes' - ~2 days with 3G, and ~3 days with 2G-only.
eva_d said:
For the first week I was playing with the phone a lot, so battery was draining quickly. But last two days I've got easier, so after ~25 hours since disconnecting charger, I still have 57% battery left.
Generally, I think battery life would be more or less like Hermes' - ~2 days with 3G, and ~3 days with 2G-only.
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Do you have push email enabled all the time?
mlekas said:
There's no infrared support on this device, so I'm not sure if that option does anything. Strange that they kept the .cpl though (had assumed it was accidentally left in the as-yet-unfinished AT&T roms).
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It also applies on BT incoming transfers I think
ID64 said:
It also applies on BT incoming transfers I think
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Yes, it does.
pepeto2001 said:
Do you have push email enabled all the time?
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No, I don't use push e-mail. I've set up automatic e-mail checking every 15 minutes once, tough - but I got rid of it for now, as data connection stays open after checking email, which is not quite nice, regarding battery life...
Can I charge the battery using my old HTC Magician charger?
It has the same input and output (at least from what I read).
The reason that I want to use the HTC Magician charger because I live in NL (charger has 2 legs) and I bought the Kaiser from UK (charger has 3 legs).
I've had my Galaxy S for a week and of all the reported problems the worst for me is the phone gets hot sometimes in use and while charging. I checked in the application system I downloaded from the android market and it showed temperatures up to 53 degrees celsius. This makes the phone impossible to hold to the ear for a phone call and even internet browsing difficult as it gets too hot to touch.
As a side note unless the carphonewarehouse offer you a 7/14 day return policy don't buy from them. I'm having problems now because of it.
I can't post links to the pictures I took showing this as my account is still new, but it's on picasa web album under galaxy s temperatures and I can send you the link in a message if you want.
Has anyone else experience this problem?
I did notice that the phone can get quite warm at times. But for me even after 1hour in the sun outside the phone wasn't uncomfortable to touch. Much less to hot to hold to the ear.
My phone is charging right now and temp is 44 degrees centigrade. But considering the room-temp is almost 35, its not that bad. I'd rather have my phone becoming a bit warm than it taking forever to charge.
Ive only noticed this when gaming and charging from AC, its not that big a problem for me really, all smartphones suffer from this to some degree. My old Touch HD would get really hot if just wifi was active which is more annoying than this.
Well I have the desire as well and had many smart phones in the past that got warm but never as hot as the galaxy s, nor as frequently when used. It doesn't stay hot, but when it gets hot I can't put it to my ear to phone people. It happens mid call after I've use the phone for awhile.
Well that doesnt sound right, mine doesnt get hot like that, so perhaps yours is faulty?
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Ive only noticed this when gaming and charging from AC
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Same here (USB also)
but other than that the phone remains colder than my HTC Magic.
It does get hot sometimes during calling but not that much.
I just got a new one (old one replaced) and I'm disappointed I'm suffering from this problem also. Mine also reaches up to 53 degrees.
have same problem but....
I downloaded a app "Advanced Task Killer" and killed all the apps that were working in background and i use from time to time, like YMessenger, Mail....
now the phone even if its charging the temp is between 35C and 40C. and maybe the battery will not discharge that fast
well it gets warm here 2 . but i had the same with my iphone 3g .i think its the working of the processor that makes it hot .its the same as with a pc when you run it to its high performance it gets hot 2
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Well I have the desire as well and had many smart phones in the past that got warm but never as hot as the galaxy s, nor as frequently when used. It doesn't stay hot, but when it gets hot I can't put it to my ear to phone people. It happens mid call after I've use the phone for awhile.
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that sounds like normal
my old HTC Athena, gets really hot after long sessions of WiFi, 3G, or GPS, and in the SGS i get similar temperature when using the same stuff.
no heat from Bluetooth, or at least it's not noticeable
but ALL cell phones gets hot after long voice conversations.
Some times
Allways when im playing games my SGS gets pretty hot but not in AC .
From the troubleshootig section of the manual -
Your device is hot to the touch
When you use applications that require more power or use
applications on your device for an extended period of time,
your device may feel hot to the touch. This is normal and
should not affect your device's lifespan or performance.
It gets quite hot sometimes. Battery might rise from 33C in idle to around 45C on load.
I think it is the GPS chipset doing really weird calculations. That happened to me in the hardest math classes in college. Whenever I was totally lost and clueless about something during a calculus test I'd always get nervous and hot and sweaty.
Never killed me tho. I think the SGS will be fine even while hot.
I had the VIbrant for a week now.. i can't really say its gotten hot... maybe once.. but its not something severe, because i can't really remember how hot it was...
but from my research... iPhone4 is doing it, people complained they couldn't hold it close to their face while talking..... All the 1ghz SnapDragon's been doing it...there has been reports of the device too hot to even charge....even the underlcocked Acer Liquid E....
I've actually overused it the first few days...i can't really recall this happening to my phone...
Charging with screen on made my SGS rather hot. So now I try to leave the screen off when charging. Come winter that might change, not always a disadvantage to have something hot in a cold car
Seems to get hot in a location around the SIM card area on the phone when charging from USB or AC.
Not worried about it though.
Today try out the Fancy Widget, but later uninstalled it, I already disabled auto refresh everything, but my SGS get overheated and battery down by 50% just in 5 hours.. ......Anyone know why?
charging time
How long does your phone takes to charge ?
Mine takes about 3-4 hour hours on pc usb and about 3 hours on power adapter come with the phone.
My HTC tytn2 with extended battery 2800 only takes 2.5 hours to charge over the pc usb charge.
Mine's getting a little bit hot after trying some 3d games (asphalt i.e, i don't play too much) or clips (few minutes). it seems to have a particular "hot spot" at the portion of the sim card/sd card, the rest of the phone feels quite cool, and i can hold it without any hassle.
Charging the phone at the moment. 42 celcius.
Are you using setcpu? 10 mins ago I was using setcpu and noticed my phone gotten hot suddenly - I didnt do any sort of ocing. Checked the temperature and was shocked to see 53c Uninstalled it and the temperatre returns to a more acceptable level
Just received this in the mail, thought I would upload some pics.
Obviously this is being used in the Australian version (Telstra HTC Velocity 4G) and the Battery is advertised for the Vivid/Raider/Holiday
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Back of Battery Reads
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Long Lasting
High capacity Li-ion Battery
BARCODE
RDHT0010020111130 (30 November 2011 maybe)
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For HTC Raider 4G/Holiday/X710E
3.7VDC---3600mAh
Model:BH39100
Rechargeable Lithium-ion Battery.
+ usual warning sticker about fire being hot and try not feed it to babies or yourself and try not to crush it with your monster truck or puncture it with a pick axe.
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I will be charging it overnight (I sat the battery in the phone for the pics but have not used or charged it yet) and I will let you guys know how it goes
It cost US$12 with free postage
Already I can tell you that the larger back plate is flimsy and will probably unclip 50 times a day, I have ordered several soft cases for the phone and I intend to cut one to fit the new battery hump, that soft case should stop the flimsy case from sliding up. It's also a finger print magnet, but so is the rest of the phone so meh.
Anyway, enjoy the photo's and let me know if you would like some more info.
If anyone is interested in the inside of it, I am happy to pry it open for science.
how long dose it last
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how long dose it last
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I will let you know how long it lasts when I charge it up tonight, and let it run, do you have a preferred battery monitor you would like me to collect statistics from?
UPDATE: **** it, I popped it in and managed to get it up to 100 percent at work in 1 go, I have reset my batt stats and we shall see how long she lasts I'm syncing 2 gmail accounts in push, 1 exchange account in push and my facebook and twitter accounts and leaving wifi and bt on even though bt I only use in the car for a2dp and wifi I use when I am in range of home... so it should be searching all day long
Well I'm up to 17 hours and I'm at 57% battery... going from 7PM Australian-DST when I pulled it off the charger after the first charge to what is now 12:24PM , I've kept syncing exchange and gmail, and got about 30 sms messages, made a few calls, used gps for 10 minutes with google maps in car turn by turn, rebooted into recovery and ran a backup, took a few minutes of video footage, drove for around 2 hours using A2DP to stream music to my car using PowerAmp as the player.
So Far the big ones are
44% display
15% cell standby
12% wifi
8% phone idle
6% google maps
4% android OS
4%voice calls
2% PowerAmp
2% com.htc.bgp
2% ADW.Launcher
1% Bluetooth
It seems better than the original battery, usually I charge it in the car when I use GPS and A2DP but I wanted to avoid chargers until I deplete the battery for this test, it doesnt seem to have hammered the batter as much as I thought it would of.
I am in a 3G area, there is no LTE available here yet.
Looks promising. Thank you for posting. I may have to try one.
At about 3pm, the battery percentage started plummeting quickly, its 6pm now and I'm at 8%, I haven't done anything special its just been sitting ticking over some emails and sms's coming in, haven't made any calls or anything, so the dramatic drop in battery is kinda indicating to me that its just a **** battery, I do not forsee much more battery time out of this than the standard battery, infact it might even be worse by the end.
so 50% of the battery lasted 20 hours, and then 42% of the batter left in 3... bleh
okay ran completely flat at 7:24
so thats like 24 hours, I dont know if that is good or not
It's not terribly unusual for a battery to underperform for the first few charge cycles. I wouldn't jump to any conclusions just yet.
My Raider didn't make it through the first few days (understandable for the first day, though, since I was constantly playing with it), but now I regularly find it has 30-50% left 16-18 hours after unplugging it, depending on usage.
fair enough, I'm taking it through a few power cycles over the week and I'll report my results
makes the phone look UGLY
chachin said:
makes the phone look UGLY
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Personally I think the phone looks ugly to begin with lol... I find the Galaxy S2 or even the nexus prettier, but I love the holiday for its technical specifications, if I wanted a fashion accessory, I'd get an iphone... or a bracelet.
Have gone a few days with this, the phone feels too thin when it has the normal battery pack on it now... I find I miss the hump on the back, I also like the feel of the smooth glossy finish against my palm as opposed to the standard metal backing... of course if my phone covers EVER get here from the land of ebay (aka Shangzen, China) this will of course change again
The look of the hump on the back has actually really grown on me, and when its on its back on a table its now much easier to pick it up without it slipping in your fingers as you can get your fingers right under it before you lift it.
I did some testing with that batt a while back.. about 8 hours of netflix w/ wifi, bluetooth on.
I like not having to change the battery every day. Though I have to make a case work also.
battery is working pretty well for me, I'm going to do a full test and see what I can get out of it again now I have worn the battery in.
FYI - I'm getting a big jump in time on the stock battery after flashing - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22480315&postcount=167
Well, this run I got 1 day 20 hours out of it im guessing cause the last 24 wont last long, which I am impressed by, however the phone does not appear to really register the battery level properly it still spends forever in the top 50 percent ie 1 day 17 hours for the first 50 then it blasts through the last 50 percent in a few hours.
yea.. I reported that a while ago. Mine stays at 100% for half the day then starts dropping.. once to about 15% it will go quick. haha I cant see to get apps to really show the right info.
These batta are suppose to have a chip in it.. but I dont know how it all works with the apps.
My basic impression with the battery is , YES, it does last longer, however it's impossible to tell how much charge you have left as the phone cannot tell properly how full the battery is
hi.. where do i get that circle battery theme? thanks
to get that, you need to have a rooted phone, I used
http://uot.dakra.lt/kitchen/
you pull some files out of your phone (they are different for each rom, so if I gave you mine, they would just break your phone) and upload them to this site, make the changes you want (ie the circle battery indicator) and then this website cooks it into a recovery ZIP file, put that file on your /sdcard directory, reboot intop recovery and flash the zip onto your phone, clear your cache, clear your dalvik cache, then reboot, done
let me know if you need more help, basically before you can do this you need to follow the suerguide and have your phone at least rooted and have recovery installed. This is the only way to really change that icon, you can install an app from the market that will give you second battery meter, but yeah it looks crap
I use an app called "Screen Filter" to turn down the screen brightness whenever I'm indoors. This saves my battery tremendously. I see your VIVID Display also kills your battery. I'm getting over 24hrs on the stock battery with the screen brightness set to 50% with the app, but I have autosync and push turned off for all programs. I make a few calls and text about 10-20 times per day. I check facebook and gmail about once every couple of hours. This is pretty stellar with the stock battery. Oh ya, I have the SafPWR Fusion2 but only use it only when taking business trips. It's only 1800mAh but it gets me another day of power.
I'm very tempted to get your battery pack especially since it's so cheap! I'm sure the performance will improve over a few more weeks of use. 2 days of usage with full autosync and exchange sync is pretty impressive!
i just got my Moto X updated last night (11/22/13 ) and so far i like it. I'm not sure if i plugged the phone back up overnight to charge it since i moved it from my normal spot on my night stand next to my bed to the kitchen counter when i started to download and update the phone. (wanted to be closer to the wifi for the download) so im not sure if the battery drain was from the new update or not plugging it in. I'm on At&t network btw. so far i haven't really noticed anything different except for the changes in the icons for locations service and settings button. the lock screen looks a bit "squattier" but i may have must not paid enough attention to it before. i normally use my phone as my music player at work and it has so far lasted me all day and not dropped to the 10% mark till way past time i should have been in bed having to be at work so early. so i will be interested to see if it makes better or worse battery life monday. when i noticed the battery was drained today i had been playing candy crush for about 45 mins and my normal usage for weekend and it was only down to 39%. oh and for the record i keep all the radios on except Bluetooth since i don't have any bt devices with auto brightness turned on as well. the notification bar icons are now all white. (formally they were blue with the signal bars and 4g icon turning white when it switched off Lte) lastley the "touch sounds" seem to be muted now to low to be noticeable if your not listening for them now. that's something i don't like as i dont have the greatest vision and the sounds actually helped me a lot. the update went smoothly and had actually forgotten about it until i got a call so i cant say for certain if the update took more than the 20 mins it said it would. how was your experience?
That's quite a wall of text there.
I'm also on ATT and just finished my first day with Kit Kat after the update last night.
I've not experienced any explicit problems.
After 17 hours my phone is at 31%, but I also had it on the charger for a short while this afternoon while i was exporting some photos. typically I'd be at about 30% by bed time with moderate use. I did use the GPS briefly and spent more time than usual away from wifi though. I also enabled android runtime. I'd give it a few days before I pass any judgement on battery life. Prior to the update I'd had a couple days which I had near 5 hours of screen time. That's impressive by it's self and I hope it continues, but those kind of days are rare for me.
Lol I typed it out on my computer originally. It didn't look like much but after seeing it on my phone...your right. Anyway I'm happy to report a full day of use and battery was only down to 19%.
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My idle battery drain went way down on both my Nexus 7 and Moto X after the KitKat upgrade.
That's huge for me, because I often get busy at work and won't be able to touch/use my phone for long stretches, so it's nice to be able to carry my phone around for 6 hours but not have my battery life drop by 25% during that period.
Other than that, I'm happy. I wish they had kept the up/down arrows on the wifi signal. I do like the modifications to the haptic feedback, though - before, some of the vibrations were kind of rough and loud, many of them have been toned down.
Not liking kitkat, the dialer from jellybean that easily slid from logs to dialer to contatcs is gone. Im not likng the new dialer at all, the white theme it has drains more battery and is less easy on the eyes, google got it right with ics and jellybean theming most of the UI black, dialer also doesnt search for nearby places numbers like Nexus 5's dialer does, email app is good but again themed white, and a huge problem....setting the brightness all the way down isn't as low as jellybean was, this is a bug that needs to be fixed, the lowest brightness setting isnt low at all.
Recently, my phone has started running really hot in some circumstances, and the battery runs down really quickly.
Additionally, when the battery gets down to 21%, the phone immediately shuts down and then takes 10-15 minutes, at least, to charge enough that I can boot it back up.
I had a One XL that started experiencing similar issues after a year or two. Do these phones seriously only last that long?
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Recently, my phone has started running really hot in some circumstances, and the battery runs down really quickly.
Additionally, when the battery gets down to 21%, the phone immediately shuts down and then takes 10-15 minutes, at least, to charge enough that I can boot it back up.
I had a One XL that started experiencing similar issues after a year or two. Do these phones seriously only last that long?
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i had no problems with my battery so far, might be worth checking what app is using the battery or accessing the web. I found thats where the most usage occurred.
Oh, it's only while I'm actually doing stuff with my phone, it doesn't just happen in the background. If I leave the screen off, I'm fine. But if I watch videos on YouTube, say, the phone gets so hot it's painful to hold, which wasn't happening before.
Plus the phone shutting off at 21% battery. Which would previously last a good 15-20 minutes, at least, even using it a bit.
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Oh, it's only while I'm actually doing stuff with my phone, it doesn't just happen in the background. If I leave the screen off, I'm fine. But if I watch videos on YouTube, say, the phone gets so hot it's painful to hold, which wasn't happening before.
Plus the phone shutting off at 21% battery. Which would previously last a good 15-20 minutes, at least, even using it a bit.
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i would contact HTC. Since its hardware failure, they usually fix for free (at least in UK) even off warranty.
it could be more than just battery...