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So, what are the differences between these ROM types? Any particular advantages to either of them?
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Zamboney said:
So, what are the differences between these ROM types? Any particular advantages to either of them?
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Nice article by a friend-
http://knowmydroid.com/blog/what-is-aokp-rom-how-is-it-different-from-cm9
Sounds like they are mostly cosmetical, although choice is good of course. Hopefully we'll have both!
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May the KANG be with you guys!
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AOSP means android open source project.. Any rom that derivates from that it's an AOSP rom...
AOKP team named their rom that way implying that they are "kanging" AOSP like many people kangs cm7/9/10
Kang means cook a rom based on other people's work so in a way every rom its a "kang" from AOSP, even TW roms as TW its just a "skin" but under the hood its just plain and simple Android.
If a developer doesn't modify the AOSP code they would be releasing Google's roms Wich its stock Android.
But there's differences between cooking and developing and that's why you see 2 sections in development the original Wich should be developers whom modify and support roms straight from AOSP being able of actually fix bugs and issues and the regular development Wich its people that uses kitchens and scrips to create roms.. No actually developing code..
So at the end AOKP its a rom based on AOSP, as cm10 and every single rom that derivates from AOSP, go and check development section in galaxy nexus forum and you will see what's development.. There's no less than 100 different rom's all coded from AOSP.. AOSP is the mother of every rom that exist
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msedek said:
AOSP means android open source project.. Any rom that derivates from that it's an AOSP rom...
AOKP team named their rom that way implying that they are "kanging" AOSP like many people kangs cm7/9/10
Kang means cook a rom based on other people's work so in a way every rom its a "kang" from AOSP, even TW roms as TW its just a "skin" but under the hood its just plain and simple Android.
If a developer doesn't modify the AOSP code they would be releasing Google's roms Wich its stock Android.
But there's differences between cooking and developing and that's why you see 2 sections in development the original Wich should be developers whom modify and support roms straight from AOSP being able of actually fix bugs and issues and the regular development Wich its people that uses kitchens and scrips to create roms.. No actually developing code..
So at the end AOKP its a rom based on AOSP, as cm10 and every single rom that derivates from AOSP, go and check development section in galaxy nexus forum and you will see what's development.. There's no less than 100 different rom's all coded from AOSP.. AOSP is the mother of every rom that exist
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Thanks a lot, that was really helpful!
doctorgallo said:
Thanks a lot, that was really helpful!
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I was reading different threads and found this one. Great explanation! Why is it that some features like wi-fi calling dont work on aosp?
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tytngasman said:
I was reading different threads and found this one. Great explanation! Why is it that some features like wi-fi calling dont work on aosp?
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The AOSP roms are often unofficial and are made by our cool developers, so there are some features that don't work. But those are usually fixed sooner or later
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Read this thread too, Will help
http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/541600-aokp-vs-aosp.html
dasunh said:
Read this thread too, Will help
http://androidforums.com/triumph-all-things-root/541600-aokp-vs-aosp.html
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Thanx
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im looking for a kernel with lots of features
DizzlePro said:
im looking for a kernel with lots of features
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I'm using the stock one that came with trick droid.
AFAIK sources haven't been released for 4.2.2 so everyone's using modded 4.1.2 ones. With that in mind there's not that many great ones out there. Lots of features that were present on 4.1 aren't there.
Just so you know, this thread will probably get closed. There's no which is the best this or that threads allowed on xda.
Just so u know.
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Until HTC releases their source for 4.2.2 you won't find anything really other than a modded stock, as mentioned above. Your best bet is to bookmark a few threads in the Android & Original Android development forums and check back frequently. I'd assume by the end of the month we'l see new kernels.
Can't wait for some real custom kernels.
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Just wondering why we have 2 different development forums? Seems they both have similar content but I have to go from one to the other and I'm not sure there's any reason for having both? Anyone else think this is annoying?
We have 2 one for AOSP based Roms and one for touch wiz roms. The one for touchwiz is Roms that are based on the phones original firmware. The other are based on stock android.
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Read the stickies in each one. It explains it well.
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We have 2 one for AOSP based Roms and one for touch wiz roms. The one for touchwiz is Roms that are based on the phones original firmware. The other are based on stock android.
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Not true. Read the stickies. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257061
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Hmm now I feel dumb...been here forever and this is the first time I've seen those touchwiz and aosp separated in different forums. Thanks for letting me know!
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We have 2 one for AOSP based Roms and one for touch wiz roms. The one for touchwiz is Roms that are based on the phones original firmware. The other are based on stock android.
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NO this is very wrong! Read the sticky in Original development. Only ROMs created from ground up like CM and AOKP are original. Any clone or cherry picked ROM does not belong in Original Development.
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NO this is very wrong! Read the sticky in Original development. Only ROMs created from ground up like CM and AOKP are original. Any clone or cherry picked ROM does not belong in Original Development.
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So what your saying is we have a second development forum for 2 roms. All other AOSP roms are clones of them aren't they?
cruise350 said:
So what your saying is we have a second development forum for 2 roms. All other AOSP roms are clones of them aren't they?
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Also for kernels, ROMs with custom kernels, ROMs built from the ground up. Definitey not for someone who just follows CM's instructions on how to build from their source and they change one thing. That is not original. The huge misconception that one is for TW makes no sense on Google devices...then nothing should go in Android Development? The Original Development section was created to reward developers and teams who have created or modified 100's of lines of code and put a lot of original work into their release.
Between z1 android development and z1 original android development?
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Between z1 android development and z1 original android development?
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Original android development is aimed at AOSP and AOKP Rom's like Cyanogen mod and paranoid android.
Android development is aimed at the way the company who made the phone intended it to be, ie: stock and custom based roms based around a stock base.
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Between z1 android development and z1 original android development?
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Android Development : Roms Super Tweaked, Superior Kernels, Fast, Clean, you can fly.
Original Android Development : Modified Stock Roms, close to ORIGINAL but rooted and some tweaks.
I will try to remember, but what grinds my gears now is what the f PA is doing in the Android section?
Thanks for the answer guys.
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maybe he just posted in the wrong forum
dladz said:
Original android development is aimed at AOSP and AOKP Rom's like Cyanogen mod and paranoid android.
Android development is aimed at the way the company who made the phone intended it to be, ie: stock and custom based roms based around a stock base.
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Was , quite a few other ROM's crept into Android Development the other day (about 5) that should have been in the other section, and Paranoid Android ROM seemed to stay in the wrong place .
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Was , quite a few other ROM's crept into Android Development the other day (about 5) that should have been in the other section, and Paranoid Android ROM seemed to stay in the wrong place .
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Exactly
Here's the real answer
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Not at this time as it is an untested, blind build and unofficial...so best if not in OD at this time.
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Can you explain me what's the difference to android development and original android development then?
From what I've heard and what other people here, at xda told me original development is a stock based roms section and android development is a place for AOSP roms. Could you shed some light on this?
Thanks.
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Absolutely not. If that was the case what would be the difference between Original and Android Development on Nexus devices? Here is the explanation and guidelines for Original Development
And in this case Paranoid Android itself would classify as Original Development with Halo and Pie included but it is still basically a CM clone. The other requirement would be that the OP needs to be able to support the build. In this case Oblikas does not even own the device and therefore cannot test or support it. Let me know if you have anymore questions...I will do my best to answer.
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dladz said:
Original android development is aimed at AOSP and AOKP Rom's like Cyanogen mod and paranoid android.
Android development is aimed at the way the company who made the phone intended it to be, ie: stock and custom based roms based around a stock base.
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Not exactly. There is what is quoted in the previous message and there has to be something original about it...not just compiled from AOSP or CM clones. Maintainers for ROMs that are considered Original such as CM and post official builds would get to post in OD. If there were no official version of CM and someone got it working with an unofficial version it can go in OD until the Official version comes along. Because he did something original by getting it working on a device that had no CM. Hope this helps.
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Not exactly. There is what is quoted in the previous message and there has to be something original about it...not just compiled from AOSP or CM clones. Maintainers for ROMs that are considered Original such as CM and post official builds would get to post in OD. If there were no official version of CM and someone got it working with an unofficial version it can go in OD until the Official version comes along. Because he did something original by getting it working on a device that had no CM. Hope this helps.
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I'm not disagreeing with you here, that's just the way it's always seemed, plus the fact that the vast majority of rom's that have derived from CM and the like have always been in Original development, never seen a stock (as intended by the company who made it ie: HTC, Samsung, Sony) rom in there no matter how modified and vice versa, I can't say that i've ever seen paranoid android and the like - original or modified in Android development either.
At least that's my experience anyway, taking a look at the HTC sections will show you what i'm talking about, namely HTC One and EVO 3D.
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I'm not disagreeing with you here, that's just the way it's always seemed, plus the fact that the vast majority of rom's that have derived from CM and the like have always been in Original development, never seen a stock (as intended by the company who made it ie: HTC, Samsung, Sony) rom in there no matter how modified and vice versa, I can't say that i've ever seen paranoid android and the like - original or modified in Android development either.
At least that's my experience anyway, taking a look at the HTC sections will show you what i'm talking about, namely HTC One and EVO 3D.
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You are correct. So far except for a mod, Xposed Framework, there is not anything thrown on a stock ROM that would be considered Original Development. However the first rooted stock ROM for a new device would be. Also the opposite of what you say is not true...CM clones do not belong in Original Development unless they bring something new and original to the table.
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You are correct. So far except for a mod, Xposed Framework, there is not anything thrown on a stock ROM that would be considered Original Development. However the first rooted stock ROM for a new device would be. Also the opposite of what you say is not true...CM clones do not belong in Original Development unless they bring something new and original to the table.
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Yea I agree with that m8, i'm not saying where any of them belong, i'm just saying that that appears to be the way of it.
As intended roms in android development and non as intended roms in original, i'm not saying they're the rules, just that it seems that way, and as I said, looking over other forums on XDA it certainly tells a tale.
Isn't the whole point of having a nexus that you get a stock AOSP build anyways?
Why do I see people posting links (eg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/build-guide-rom-build-aosp-source-t2973610) if you can get it straight from google. I understand in his guide he was showing how to build a rom from source, but why bother going to the effort of flashing a rom thats the same as stock? I'm switching from IOS so people forgive any mis-information
AOSP does not ship with proprietary Google Applications which can be sideloaded with gapps is the main difference. It is the base for custom ROMs to build on top of it as ROMs are constructed from AOSP base and not stock base.
Oh ok thanks that makes sense, but why would someone not want the stock apps? So I would only need to flash an AOSP if I was creating a rom, or wanted stock without gapps?
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I ask myself the same question. I came from iPhone to the Nexus because of the Google ecosystem. I don't know what I would do with the phone if it didn't have GAPPs.
Audaces said:
Oh ok thanks that makes sense, but why would someone not want the stock apps? So I would only need to flash an AOSP if I was creating a rom, or wanted stock without gapps?
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Not all of the stock apps are useful, for example... Google Fit, Google Earth, Google Books, etc aren't useful to many of us.
You flash gapps.
You don't construct a ROM based off stock ROM, you have to base it off AOSP.
The AOSP ROM without any features was released as a base build since it is relatively a early build and features werent available yet. Nothing more.
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I ask myself the same question. I came from iPhone to the Nexus because of the Google ecosystem. I don't know what I would do with the phone if it didn't have GAPPs.
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It does have gapps you just flash to a additional zip to have the gapps.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me
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You have to look at the change log in the op of the said rom ...... Most aosp ROMs are going to give much more functionality and options for themes etc
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