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I know this isn't really a development D) but is it possible to run iOS 4 or iPhone OS 3 on the HTC Legend??
Gaillimh_Abú28 said:
I know this isn't really a development D) but is it possible to run iOS 4 or iPhone OS 3 on the HTC Legend??
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If you can buy Apple and force the iOS4 developer team to do it... than it's possible.
yeah ??!!
tomorrow i try !
Why bought a Legend? Go get an iphone!
Gaillimh_Abú28 said:
I know this isn't really a development D) but is it possible to run iOS 4 or iPhone OS 3 on the HTC Legend??
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Come on, get a grip... if you want iOS buy an iphone or itouch or even iPad, if windows mobile, you should get another htc. Its like I'm gonna ask can I get android on my Nokia 3310? ...
Please don't give such an appropriate question.
Come on, get a grip... if you want iOS buy an iphone or itouch or even iPad, if windows mobile, you should get another htc. Its like I'm gonna ask can I get android on my Nokia 3310? ...
Please don't give such an appropriate question.
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Yes, +1.
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Wrong thread, BTW...
paviol said:
Come on, get a grip... if you want iOS buy an iphone or itouch or even iPad, if windows mobile, you should get another htc. Its like I'm gonna ask can I get android on my Nokia 3310? ...
Please don't give such an appropriate question.
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Yes but I think he asks because its possible the other way. Android OS has been ported to run on the iPhone afaik. Something many also thought was impossible.....
cryshop said:
Why bought a Legend? Go get an iphone!
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I bought a legend because of it's specs, screen, finish (aluminium casing),it cost way less than an iPhone, and finally because of Sense. The only reason i wanted to see would it work is because im sick of Google waiting to open the Paid market in Ireland (i know this is the case in alot of other contries aswell)
Come on, get a grip... if you want iOS buy an iphone or itouch or even iPad, if windows mobile, you should get another htc. Its like I'm gonna ask can I get android on my Nokia 3310? ...
Please don't give such an appropriate question.
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The HTC Legend has simular specs to the iPhone and you cant put the compare the Nokia 3310 in any way to the HTC Legend. As s7yler pointed out it the iPhone has been ported to Android. Im sorry if i took 2 minutes of your time but i was just curious if it would work, or if we could see it in the future! Hell i haven't even rooted my Legend yet! So thanks for your reaction, as i said i was just curious.
Wrong thread, BTW...
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Sorry about that, i had second thoughts the minute i posted it here.
Mod close if you wish.
s7yler said:
Yes but I think he asks because its possible the other way. Android OS has been ported to run on the iPhone afaik. Something many also thought was impossible.....
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true even android can be run on some of the WM devices, because of the boot process, and phone spec. But iOS has completely different boot system/process though its not possible to run it on other devices (for now) , besides have you seen iOS run on any other devices then Apple's ? don't thinks so mate..
Also one big thing to remember...
The only reson android runs on ipod/iphone is because android is open source... and that is more easy to handle and port (Not that i am saying it was easy for them to port Android to the i devices as apple hardware is also keep as close source) then a closed source system as iOS....
It will be the same as porting Windows 7 to ARM or PowerPC cpu.... not something you can do without having access to the source code of windows...
Hmm i have run MAC OS on a pc so it is possible tbh
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Hmm i have run MAC OS on a pc so it is possible tbh
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to be nice i wont say how many ways that statement is wrong...
but most of osx IS open source... NONE of iOS is open source...
And the only reson it is possibel to run osx on a pc is because the basic part of osx is open source and that is the kernel so it can be modded and rebuild to work on diffrent cpu's....
I know there are bin patched versions of the mach_kernel but they are never as good as the one that they make when apple release the source and that normal happens 14 days after the os update...
(to end this with a statement why i can say all this i can tell you i have been a active osx86 user the last 5 years, been really involved in the help channels and know a lot of the devs)
Gaillimh_Abú28 said:
I bought a legend because of it's specs, screen, finish (aluminium casing),it cost way less than an iPhone, and finally because of Sense. The only reason i wanted to see would it work is because im sick of Google waiting to open the Paid market in Ireland (i know this is the case in alot of other contries aswell)
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There is a solution to paid market not available. When I had android on my Diamond I used it for a while and the paid application were still unavailable in canada at this time so I made a little search on this and I found something.
There is an application that can make the market think you are from UK or US and then you have acces to all the paid application. You still need to pay but you have acces to buy them at least.
I don't remember the name but it was something like "market enabler". Sorry I erased all android data of my phone cause there is no more development in this direction and GPS, bluetooth and camera were still missing. I can't even think of living without google maps with AGPS and speeking while driving is illegal over here unless using a bluetooth headset or an hands free system.
Good luck with that.
hey,guys
look this
http://www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885&highlight=ios
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk5NjExMjYw.html
Gaillimh_Abú28 said:
The only reason i wanted to see would it work is because im sick of Google waiting to open the Paid market in Ireland (i know this is the case in alot of other contries aswell)
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just install market enabler app and u can use paid market, i live in Sweden and we don't have paid market enabled here yet, but with the magic of a rooted Legend and market enabler i bought an app yesterday and have installed and it's working 100%
As far as it comes to your question about if it's possible to run ios4: i think it's not nice of people to make fun of you for just asking, technics-geeks as we all are many of us just want to know IF it's possible.. people shouldn't be flamed just for asking.
i agree with the last post as well. and as i was seeking some answers i was disapointed when i saw some ppl who are making fun of the first post and playing smart as they aperently dont know **** about the question and dont even care about sharing knowlage (i dought they have any). instead all they do is sit there and ***** about being smart and thats so childish.
since im a new to this forums this gives me a perspective on what cind of ppl are hanging out here...and that usualy not a good sign to see
makedonii said:
i agree with the last post as well. and as i was seeking some answers i was disapointed when i saw some ppl who are making fun of the first post and playing smart as they aperently dont know **** about the question and dont even care about sharing knowlage (i dought they have any). instead all they do is sit there and ***** about being smart and thats so childish.
since im a new to this forums this gives me a perspective on what cind of ppl are hanging out here...and that usualy not a good sign to see
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Aah, poor baby.
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hey,guys
look this
http://www.hiapk.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=419885&highlight=ios
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk5NjExMjYw.html
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o.o is that real? I cant tell...
The second link won't stream out of China, and the first link wasn't loading for me at all.
danishnicooo said:
Hmm i have run MAC OS on a pc so it is possible tbh
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Not going into the legalities, but OSX is based on the same CPU's as ordinary PC's now days and has been for the past 3 - 4 years.
Hey, just read the new features in ios5...they really are behind the times innit :-0.
Apparently coming in Autumn to most newer idevices is a pull down notification menu, ota updates, ota syncing, camera shortcut on lockscreen, top volume rocker can be used to snap pics, iphones own version of bbm just for iPhone devices.
I read it and thought wow, they really playing catch up with android, I used to have an iPhone but got bored really quick with their locked down rules and such.
I love my android phone and will be sticking with android for a good while yet but each to their own as is said.
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i read that to and started laughing..... iOS5 = fail
I know but yet the sheep will all say how magical and revolutionary it all is with those updates.
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It just made iOS a worth contender to Android IMO.
iMessage was the only thing that i would deem "magical".
Completely slaughters BBM.
What's perhaps the most frustrating is that Apple is suing Android phone producers left and right, down to the packaging being to similar on phones like the Nexus S.
Yet here, they even copied the 3 little bars! It's a flat out copy of what Android has been doing for years.. they mixed in some WebOS with the swipe to clear, but who knows they could of gotten that feature from CyanogenMod.
Notifications on the lock screen? TouchWiz and Sense 3.0 anybody? It's even more ironic because of the lawsuit with Samsung over "copying".
I mean... come on.
I honestly don't understand why iphones are so hyped up, I'm not the only person to say that they boring, but if u look at the sales sheets u will see that they still flying off the shelves, I know its Apple
But surely just a name can't make that many people go out and buy one?? Like I said I used to have an iPhone, and that probably happened cos I didn't know much about phones, but once I switched over to android and found out all the great stuff u can do with ur phone... It just makes sense to have an android device innit??
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TheDub said:
What's perhaps the most frustrating is that Apple is suing Android phone producers left and right, down to the packaging being to similar on phones like the Nexus S.
Yet here, they even copied the 3 little bars! It's a flat out copy of what Android has been doing for years.. they mixed in some WebOS with the swipe to clear, but who knows they could of gotten that feature from CyanogenMod.
Notifications on the lock screen? TouchWiz and Sense 3.0 anybody? It's even more ironic because of the lawsuit with Samsung over "copying".
I mean... come on.
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Ahh, the irony. I believe Google could probably sue Apple for the notification bar.
dazza_84 said:
I honestly don't understand why iphones are so hyped up, I'm not the only person to say that they boring, but if u look at the sales sheets u will see that they still flying off the shelves, I know its Apple
But surely just a name can't make that many people go out and buy one?? Like I said I used to have an iPhone, and that probably happened cos I didn't know much about phones, but once I switched over to android and found out all the great stuff u can do with ur phone... It just makes sense to have an android device innit??
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Had a pal switched form a Desire to a iPhone 4, don't know why he did it.
(before I got myself the Captivate)
1. Brand name, idk (stylish, herd mentality, Job's distortion field)
2. Some want things to just work. They don't bother to tinker and what not.
That's about it IMO.
I see nothing in the iOS update that even a horse talking out its ass could call revolutionary. The Notifications are from Android, without the necessary clear all button, the camera button on a lock screen is still one more button away from a camera then winphone 7, my calander, gmail, and contacts are already all synced OTA to my thunderbolt, G-Tablet, Netbook, and desktop, and the "magical" messaging service will be just like facetime. Nobody I know has ever facetimed in this whole year. Dropbox is also fine for my documents, and no new hardware at all, so I get happier and happier with my thunderbolt with every day.
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What's perhaps the most frustrating is that Apple is suing Android phone producers left and right, down to the packaging being to similar on phones like the Nexus S.
Yet here, they even copied the 3 little bars! It's a flat out copy of what Android has been doing for years.. they mixed in some WebOS with the swipe to clear, but who knows they could of gotten that feature from CyanogenMod.
Notifications on the lock screen? TouchWiz and Sense 3.0 anybody? It's even more ironic because of the lawsuit with Samsung over "copying".
I mean... come on.
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I was thinking the same things as well. They blatantly copied Android notifications yet they are quick to sue others over icons.
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I've got an iPhone 4 and the reason I switched from Android to iOS was basically because iOS does everything I need it to do and it does it very smooth. The apps look ten times better on iOS IMO too. I'm still a huge Android fan but iOS just works the way I want my phone to work. Nice and simple.
The only thing I'm looking forward to is the iMessage or whatever. Everything else has no real effect on me. I do think the reminder thing is pretty cool though but I'll never use that.
No doubt iFanboys will argue that the notifications are better on iOS now when clearly Android is miles ahead. Seems like Apple are just following behind now. Sure most of the apple fanboys don't even care about that, after-all, it's Apple right?
One thing I was dissapointed in was no change to multi-tasking. Oh well, there's always jailbreaking.
Reading these updates strangley annoyed me... Hmmm
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MacaronyMax said:
Reading these updates strangley annoyed me... Hmmm
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+9999999999000!
-Remember, Android hell is a real place and you will be sent there at the first sign of defiance-
Remember though "If you don't have an iPhone 4, you don't have an iPhone 4" which gives you an idea of what their target market is...
Lmao xD
xaccers said:
Remember though "If you don't have an iPhone 4, you don't have an iPhone 4" which gives you an idea of what their target market is...
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Also... What next?! How about Wallpapers, which get this..... Move!!!
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Except they will call them animated wallpapers instead of live wallpapers.
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still no flash support=epic fail
All I gotta say is lame
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Definatly underwhelming. Not a single thing announced for iOS today that I can't currently do with my thunderbolt, dropbox, and google services.
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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The ability to make phone calls and text are two of my favorite features. I don't know what I'll do without these two important features.
mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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dude any android high-end is basically a computer/ game system. i really hate the fact that this phone doesnt have a micro sd but i got over it. if usb on the go gets better oh mann ps1 and gba emulator heaven. i love the freedom with keboards and mice i can do a lot of school work on office suite pro 7. gaming is amazing with my dualshock 3. screen calibration is like the best thing ever since everyone can get the screen the way THEY want. andddd uhh, how thin and sexy the phone is. yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
i want OTG >
btw hows the hdmi out .. the slimport or whatever? is it laggy or smooth
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The ability to make phone calls and text are two of my favorite features. I don't know what I'll do without these two important features.
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I'm guessing you use a headset/headphones?
Does anyone else have any tips for what android can really do?
It can be better than an Iphone at half the price.
I'll go with Android in general.
The communities these devices generate.. All the way back from lurking SDX Developers to present day to being a heavy poster on XDA.. I've enjoyed every minute I lurk and post on these boards. You meet some interesting folks, you have some great laughs, some not so great arguments, and more importantly constantly learning... If you're willing to listen.. There is always someone around here willing to help another person out.. All you gotta do is ask.. And if you get bored.. You can pick any thread in the development section, start from page one and just read.. You're bound to learn something new..
The best feature of Android is IMO that it is open source and the best feature of the Nexi is IMO that they run clean Android and have full fastboot support.
having used an Android phone since the OG Galaxy S (Captivate), i've really come to love that the Nexus isn't locked to any particular carrier, and has no bloatware. in the past, i've always felt like i had to root and ROM my phones the moment i got them, just to get rid of AT&T's craptastic pre-loaded apps. i've had my N4 for nearly 3 whole months and haven't found a NEED to mod it at all (i still may in the future because of a desire to, but the need isn't there).
that's why i love the Nexus...
The Dev community.
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Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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Off contract, unlocked, open file system.
I've been firmly entrenched in Apple's ecosystem for almost 30 years, and while most apps still exhibit more polish on iOS... Android is catching up.
Nexus 7 was the first Android device that impressed me, and Nexus 4 is more of the same. While I initially missed the ability to communicate via AppleEvents to my server, I managed to solve that problem and there is now very little iOS abilities I miss on Android.
best feature is that i bought one for $220 from a friend of mine
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AlexWekell said:
Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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Agreed coming off att sg2 and have been fighting with the bloatware since having it, can't wait to install only the programs that I use and that is it
styckx said:
I'll go with Android in general.
The communities these devices generate.. All the way back from lurking SDX Developers
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Wow, an sdx reference. Didn't see that coming. They were instrumental in making the SPH-M920 aka Samsung transform aka god awful slider phone halfway decent. Vampirefo was the kernel developer I followed. Ahhh memories. Anyway, my favorite feature as far as the nexus is concerned is the updates.... Like all of them. On time and with a quickness.
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Although I've been strictly nexus since the galaxy nexus, these devices do have bloatware (to me)
I hate having Google plus and these other useless Google apps, can't even uninstall them, still love the nexus devices better than any other, but this is my only complaint
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subxero123 said:
Although I've been strictly nexus since the galaxy nexus, these devices do have bloatware (to me)
I hate having Google plus and these other useless Google apps, can't even uninstall them, still love the nexus devices better than any other, but this is my only complaint
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You can by taking advantage of one of the highlights of owning a nexus are..... Rooting it.
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mufc09 said:
What do you think are the best features that your nexus 4 is capable off.
Personally I think the fact you can use it as a gaming console (ps3 controller and hdmi output) is a fantastic feature of the phone.
Also the fact I can use it as a tablet type device by reading pdfs (essential for work) and as a media centre with the music and films.
What are your favourite features of this phone and of android in general?
This could be a useful thread for people to learn about things they weren't aware of . So what aspects do you enjoy the most?
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The ability to watch porn secretly
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quick updates , great developer support and calling and texting hah
AlexWekell said:
Stock Android
No MotoBleh
No CrapWiz
No HTC ****
No LG what-ever-the hell they use
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co-sign. I really dislike every "skinned" theme that carrier phones come with. Although if I HAD to be stuck with one I guess Id choose sense....I guess lol
I love how easy it is to access Google Now. On the Galaxy S3, you have to hold the home button, then two the Google Now icon.
Keyboard is pretty cool too.
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Compared to say the S5, or Note 4 ?
I was shocked last weekend when my friends and I had some bbq afternoon... All 10 of them had a shiny iphone 6 !
Mind you these people don't know sh ite about rooting and stuff like that, they just take pictures and post them on instagram and sh itbook, even my cousin and her husband... am I the only one who loves Android and Samsung? or they have not seen the light yet????
Lol. I just look at the sheeple and laugh.
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Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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[/COLOR]Mind you, these are the same people that will take their laptop to an "expert" when they have a virus.
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exactly right, they abuse me when they get a virus on their laptop...
iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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iPhones are just popular because they are easy to use and are updated often and quickly. It's a painless process to upload your music, movies and photos. iOS has a huge app library with very nice quality apps. The phones look great and perform well. Using one iPhone means you pretty much know how to use any iPhone. This is unlike Android where music management is a nightmare. The Play store is flooded with low quality apps and poor support. Using one Android phone means you know nothing about all the other Android phones. In short, to the non tech geek iPhones are the go-to. They are popular because they are easy to use. It also helps that Apples products are usually a status symbol.
The downside to not having Android is your limited in customization of ROMs or kernels. That doesn't mean you can't customize iOS. You just can't go as far as you can with Android.
Android Phones gives you more freedom.
Apple iPhones gives you less headaches.
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Could not have said that better IPhone is perfect when you just want the phone that works without much hassle. Android is perfect when you love tweaking and playing with your phone and not actually use it that much Because with a android you are never satisfied, there is always something more to tweak, change rom and other stuff so for me it always ends with just messing with it. To much time tweaking and flashing to find the perfect setup
Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Although the tweaking and flashing is a massive plus with Android for me, an even bigger plus is the ability to download files like mp3s and pdfs etc from the net or a torrent and play them straight away. With IOS you can't. Android is much more like a true mini pc compared to IOS. That's why I could never go back to IOS.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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Oh yeah, the mp3 download is a big factor for me. My friends ask me where I buy music. I said it's free and I use my phone, and showed a friend once... he just kept quiet. If you reverse the situation, I'm sure they'd be bragging.
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you dont have to buy anything
tmac31 said:
you dont have to buy anything
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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RISHI RAJ said:
Ive a app called xender which sends all the mp3 & videos from android to iphone without any hassle otherwise I would have said bye bye iphone.I think iphone should reduce some restrictions,would gather more android users.
What do you guys think?
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Me, NOT at the moment. I am so used to android, just like my PC vs Mac, and my Canon DSLR vs Nikon...
But time will tell, now that Samsung started rolling phones that have irreplaceable battery and no SD card support...
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Yep it's called stealing ....
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Nope i meant it goes same for both os.
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Given the way the OP phrased his post - I think we were both accurate But yes you are right. There are plenty of people accessing content they haven't paid for on iOS too.
as an ex-iphone user (went from S1 to iphone 4 then iphone 5, back to S3 and every samsung since then) i have a similar view on them.
iPhones are simple to understand - not simple to use. there is always one way to do something, and thats it.
For many people thats preferable to feeling like an idiot when there is 10 ways to do something. go to android and watch a movie "oh it didnt work" - you tell them to try BS player or MX player and they just throw their hands in the air, because the built in video player is holy and sacred.
The reason for the simplicity is simple: On apple, every last thing is designed to come from itunes, and be played by the apple stock apps. there is one source to get the content, one app to play them, and the only thing that seperates the users is how much money you have to throw at the apple ecosystem - once someone has spent a few hundred bucks on iTunes content they'll never leave, because they add that value to offset the cost of a new phone. $900 iphone? pfft,i have $2K in iTunes, it might as well be free!"
on android, you can buy them from a dozen sources, pirate them, copy them from your PC - and you have infinite playback options. its simply too complex for people who bought the phone without knowing *WHY* they bought that phone, since they dont use most of its capabilities anyway. These are the common iSheep, the people who bought it because it's cool and looks fancy, but use it like a nokia.
Everyone i've converted from apple to samsung has followed the same path as well "why? this does the same things as my iphone, but the iphone is prettier and has itunes" - they do a direct comparison without even considering what the phone can do BEYOND the iphones capabilities. Showing them the S-pen, or directly playing files off my NAS/PC over wifi, or MHL/HDMI, or the note 4's super fast charging blows them away.
the iphone is the baseline, and they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same.
"i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?" - this also goes for themes, keyboards, stock apps and so on.
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they're so used to having just ONE choice that when presented with two or three or 10, they simply treat all the options as the same. "i hate android" means "i used one android phone once, and they're all the same right?"
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Pretty much. I was really over whelmed when I came back to Android. I was used to things just working out of the box. Now I have to rebuild my music collection from Google Play as that is eaiser then attempting to transfer from iTunes. Took a few days before I got the hang of flashing and building from source. Things have changed as if you keep in mind my iPhone is now just a really expensive GameBoy Advance and remote. My Note 4 is my daily driver.
So, on iPhone there is no proper PGP support, no NFC APIs (so no support for secure tokens such as Yubikey, or even NFC tags), no low level network APIs (so you can't implement your own protocol, such as OpenVPN).... (I could go on and on)
It seems like a no-go to me, it is pretty much locked down as well, even though you actually purchased the device you can't do anything on it that's not endorsed by Apple, that's why I strayed away from the iPhone in the first place (I used to own an iPhone 3GS, that's until I swiched to android and never came back).
As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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As someone that works in IT, and need to handle sensitive data, iOS is just not the system for me.
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But that's the thing of course. If you work in IT, you most probably want an android. However if you don't know sh*t about IT, which 98% of the people don't, an iphone really might be the better option. You dont have to worry about battery drains, wakelocks, background apps running, viruses, etc. It just does what it's supposed to do when a monkey operates it.
But if you're in IT, you most likely want to do some more stuff, go more in depth and then Android is clearly the OS of choice.
I like iphone coz everybody knows when u have an iphone.But you have to tell that you have a Note 4 coz there are hell lot of samsung mobile with similar looks.Also there is atleast 1 year surity that apple will not release another phone with similar looks.Also with some restrictions removed like access to files or install from external source could make apple on top.But guess this is how ios will be.Although I can now play movies & songs from external source by an app called xender atleast making it usable
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problems in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
I am not insulting them, I just want them to not blind and open eye, Technology is changing, iPhone is good but not perfect, android is good but not for normal user same as window phone.
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For me is simple, if I use iPhone I will become dump, if I use android I will be generous because android is for geek not for dump. Yes lol most of the people use apple iPhone but they are totally useless in technology. There are a lot of iPhone user who even don't know simple problem problem in smart phone world. My company have a lot of previous ios user try to use android and return back to iPhone because very simple problem in android (simple problem for android user) is bothering them, that android user can solve the problem in just few second. I have a lot of friends using iPhone and always come to me with some simple problem I just laugh and says only one word..... useless guys. They always says iPhone is very smart.. ha ha.. i always says ..yes you are dump and go study first.
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I do not intend to be rude, but in english the word dump means something different to the way you are using it. Perhaps you meant the word dumb?
I was thinking of taking a year off from Android development and see what IOS is like. I doubt it would be permanent, but am curious as to people's opinions. A developer mentor is switching to an IPad and this got me thinking.
have fun dealing with crApple :silly:
I wouldn`t change to an iPhone even if i got it for free tbh. No root, no costumisation and no app drawer.
Im one of the biggest android nut swingers around (talking **** about apple when the opportunity presents itself.)
That being said, let me be the first to say....
GO FOR IT.
You dont know how much greener the grass is over here until your looking back at it.
As far as something simple that works out of the box as it should, its a great device. your never going to have "facebook crashed" or launcher redraws. Simple and amazingly fluid UI, especially since they come with a single gb of ddr3 ram. (Amazing right?)
Kind of like hondas. every one talks crap about them, but that efficent little 4 cyl will ride on some v8's
The iTunes store was nice when it first came out, but it really draws back on the phone. The google play store is great being able to browse apps and then install them right from the web. Backing up is easier and you aren't tied to one computer. I had the original iPhone then got the iPhone 4 before switching to the Galaxy SIII
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The iTunes store was nice when it first came out, but it really draws back on the phone. The google play store is great being able to browse apps and then install them right from the web. Backing up is easier and you aren't tied to one computer. I had the original iPhone then got the iPhone 4 before switching to the Galaxy SIII
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You can not install apps directly from the ITunes store?
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I was thinking of taking a year off from Android development and see what IOS is like.
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When you like the white-ui design iOS is a good choice, because Apple does not use amoled displays. That means less battery drain and better reading.
Google refuses to give users the option of a dark ui, but with root and layers it is customizable and cheaper.
iOS is nice if you can jailbreak but you still cant modify CPU and GPU or under the hood stuff like you can with Android. You can install unofficial apps from cydia like tweaks but its a different ball park. Android lets you do basic things that you cant do on an Iphone.
Just get an iPad and keep your Android. iPads are still a lot better IMO and you can test iOS throughly.
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iOS is nice if you can jailbreak but you still cant modify CPU and GPU or under the hood stuff like you can with Android. You can install unofficial apps from cydia like tweaks but its a different ball park. Android lets you do basic things that you cant do on an Iphone.
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Jailbreak is carrier unlock not root or bootloader unlock?
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Jailbreak is carrier unlock not root or bootloader unlock?
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A jailbreak is modifying the system with a custom OS that's been changed. Carrier unlock requires you to be jailbroken. Most LTE phones are unlocked by carrier anyway. Root and jailbreak are similar but not the same. It's like running with administrator privileges on a Windows based system.
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A jailbreak is modifying the system with a custom OS that's been changed. Carrier unlock requires you to be jailbroken. Most LTE phones are unlocked by carrier anyway. Root and jailbreak are similar but not the same. It's like running with administrator privileges on a Windows based system.
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There's a lot of f-u-c-k-e-r-y in that post.
First of, both of you need to go here and read up some.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking.
If you're to lazy, then I'll just tell you. Jailbreaking is VERY similar to root. It allows access and modification to the system. With this you change basic or advance features. You CANT and never will be able to install a "custom OS" on an iPhone. There is maybe 1 semi working Android port. Everything else is all iOS.
Also carrier unlocked does not require you to be jail broken. You can have your carrier unlock it, or pay and give someone your imei for a network unlock code.
And another thing, most LTE phones are NOT carrier unlocked. For example, look at almost everyone of Verizon's phone. Sprint also likes to carrier lock things. But just like an iPhone, the carrier can unlock, or you can pay and give your imei code to get an unlock code.
Please do not try to pass off your assumptions as facts.
I been thinking the same thing, something different. Why not ???
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I been thinking the same thing, something different. Why not ???
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That is my current idea, maybe for a year. Might depend on the fall Nexus models.
Also depends on what jailbreak tools exist here for IOS 9.
Read about jsilbreaking, so there is some potential for modding. Anyone else with suggestions or advice?
Both of my older kids (college age) have iPhones, but I don't think I could ever go that route. That being said, if you just want a phone that works, has unparalleled 3rd party support with an excellent warranty, then an iPhone is the phone for you. I wouldn't recommend buying one if you plan on dinking around with it like we all do with our Android phones. Jailbreaking is sketchy and honestly doesn't get you that much. Most people go to Apple for the excellent ecosystem (and not to mention the warranty that jailbreaking will void), but jailbreaking pops you right out of that and basically puts you completely on your own, sort of defeating the purpose for an iPhone. A lot of carriers have really nice "iPhone for Life" type programs where every year you automatically get the latest iPhone. It's actually all a pretty sweet deal, but it's just not what I want from a phone. I'm a 20 year career network engineer, so anything and everything Apple has been the bane of my professional existence for a really long time, so I don't really care for anything Apple. But opinions vary!
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There's a lot of f-u-c-k-e-r-y in that post.
First of, both of you need to go here and read up some.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking.
If you're to lazy, then I'll just tell you. Jailbreaking is VERY similar to root. It allows access and modification to the system. With this you change basic or advance features. You CANT and never will be able to install a "custom OS" on an iPhone. There is maybe 1 semi working Android port. Everything else is all iOS.
Also carrier unlocked does not require you to be jail broken. You can have your carrier unlock it, or pay and give someone your imei for a network unlock code.
And another thing, most LTE phones are NOT carrier unlocked. For example, look at almost everyone of Verizon's phone. Sprint also likes to carrier lock things. But just like an iPhone, the carrier can unlock, or you can pay and give your imei code to get an unlock code.
Please do not try to pass off your assumptions as facts.
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Notice I said changed not installing a custom OS. By jailbreaking and modifying with tweaks and other tools, it's definitely not stock once you change it. I also stated that you cannot do any under the hood changes like CPU or GPU in an IPhone. Jailbreaking is similar to root by gaining access but not the same. I have Verizon and I have always been able to take the phones I bought with them to any carrier with the exception of Sprint because they suck. The att iPhone I had once only had GSM chip in so not CDMA carriers for it. I was told when I had my iPhone that I could unlock it from my carrier (which is hell) or do the other way, but was also told that I need to jailbroken for anything. I have modified the ipcc file before and when you backup your stuff, its a custom ipsw file. This is why I have an Android again.
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Moving to iOS ? Sounds more like a punishment than a benefit.
The nice thing about iOS is that they pre-determine everything in advance for you like icon layout, interface, etc, etc without giving you option b/c obviously they know what's best for you. Being told what's good for you.....reminds me of the Federal Government actually.
This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?
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This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?
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Why do you want to modify in the first place?
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This sounds like good advice. Is the claim that even with jail breaking, I will not be satisfied?
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Why do you want to alter the system to start with?
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