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Hi, my HTC Incredible S heats up easily when i am just surfing the web or playing games. Sometimes my phone heats up till 40 degree celcius that i can't touch the phone So could it be a battery problem?
40 degrees and u cnt touch the phone? u must be made of butter lol
i had my phone up to 43 degrees before
so it is normal for phone to be so hot?
lerx said:
so it is normal for phone to be so hot?
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it's not normal for it to be hot all the time, if it heats up when browsing or playing games then it's normal
I too see this overheating thing while using Maps on Miui and HTC Locations on Sense. The phone reaches u pto 41 degrees Celsius. By the way, can anyone tell me what is the safe range for an IncS for a high temperature.
Also, I have heard that the touch screen might become faulty due to high phone temperatures. The reason given for this is that the digitizer is glued in HTC phones and at high temperatures the glue softens leading the digitizer displacement and static discharge. Can anyone confirm this theory?
That theory may be true but for phones made of higher quality components like HTC and Nokia ... It's not.... I experience heating while using sygic.... But not any other time... Also heating is aggravated by surrounding room temp... If its already hot then phones heat up easily...don't worry just try to keep your phone cool or give it in the service center for inspection...
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Are you overclocking too high?
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Maybe a little off topic but my HTC Desire ran very HOT! when browsing the web and stuff.... I was very surprised when I got my Incredible S ... it gets a little warm but nothing that can compare to the Desire... I had my Desire for abour 1 and a half year, sold it about a month ago when I bought my Incredible S and it was still just as new, never had any problems with it so I don't think you need to worry about the heat...
i think u over clock CPU to high.try another kernel or change your Rom...
be careful may it damage your battery or phone hardware..
if heats again turn off phone and remove battery for 5 min..
Nope i did not overclock my CPU at all
I work in a cell phone shop ( Technician Manager ) so i fix phones everyday. Most of the people on xda and the internet have noticed the nexus 4 getting warm, I myself thought so too. I did stress test's on Three devices 1.) Nexus 4, which was mine Rooted no stock rom. 2. Galaxy nexus, GT-I9250 rooted stock rom. 3.) Samsung Galaxy III, T999. Rooted running Cm 10.1 latest nightly. Out of the three I found that the nexus 4 had the lowest temperature overall.
. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus got 50-58 C, basic web browsing and watching a short clip on YouTube. 60-68 C Gaming. Game used Eternal Warriors
The Samsung Galaxy S III got almost the same temperatures as the Galaxy Nexus 45-50 C with basic web browsing and watching a short clip on YouTube. Gaming 50-60 C. Game used Eternal Warriors
The nexus 4 with basic web browsing got 35-48 C. Gaming it got 50-62 C
All of the Three Devices ran for 45 minutes and used the same Game/ video to watch.
Just Wanted to share this information, hit the thanks if I've helped you out in anyway
My Nexus 4 gets so toasty if im running Spotify & GPS nav at the same time on long road trips. (And its charging at the same time.)
Kinda surprised to see your results.
IMHO the glass on the back may feel more warm that the plastic back of most other phones because glass conducts heat better than plastic. That is possibly why this phone has the overheating perception in most peoples minds.
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My Nexus 4 gets so toasty if im running Spotify & GPS nav at the same time on long road trips. (And its charging at the same time.)
Kinda surprised to see your results.
IMHO the glass on the back may feel more warm that the plastic back of most other phones because glass conducts heat better than plastic. That is possibly why this phone has the overheating perception in most peoples minds.
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That's what came to my conclusion, for the glass that's on the nexus 4. Notice that I don't have it on the charge it's just on the battery. I think you will get higher temperatures when it's charging
The glass is good in a way or another. This way, it helps the phone's internal components cool down by conducting the produced heat outside.
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The glass is good in a way or another. This way, it helps the phone's internal components cool down by conducting the produced heat outside.
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So, when the temperature outside is hot the device get's cooler ? Is that what your implying ?
Wow,how did you managed to go to 66 C on the gs3. I,even with the charger plugged in and playing heavy games(MC4,NFSMW) i couldn't make it even to 45 C
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Wow,how did you managed to go to 66 C on the gs3. I,even with the charger plugged in and playing heavy games(MC4,NFSMW) i couldn't make it even to 45 C
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Ooops, was a typo. 45-50 C
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So, when the temperature outside is hot the device get's cooler ? Is that what your implying ?
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Yes. The glass absorbs, theoretically, some of the heat inside, and helps keeping the device cool.
Hi,
I agree... I had the 3 phones.
Maybe a thread that can help user about temperature or "pseudo" overheating...
When I see a thread like "My Nexus 4 is overheating, help me" it annoys me. No CPU / battery temperature indicating to see, just a "it feels hot, it overheats" or "I see some threads about Nexus 4 overheating, mine is also overheating, I read it " (it's real ).
Plus people confuse CPU / battery temperature...
Or people complain about "overheating" when playing a game or browsing while charging their phone...
Even 70°C for the CPU temperature is (almost for the the stressed people) nothing and there is a thermal protection in any case. Thermal throttling that reduces the CPU freq according to the CPU temp, same thing for the battery. And in case of extreme temperature -> shutdown.
I remember the max CPU temp for the Galaxy Nexus: 120°C before shutdown , it's not the same CPU but it can give an idea... The max for mine was about 90°C with some benchs, I see some people (simms22 if I remember right ) with something like about 110°C...
With my Nexus 4 (about 21°C room temperature):
Iddle temperature: 24 / 26°C for the CPU and 21°C for the battery
Light use after 15 / 20 mins (XDA app in 3g, homescreen setting): about 38 / 42°C (about 45°C with only XDA app) for the CPU and about 26 / 28 °C for the battery.
Hard use (browsing in 3g, Youtube, camera): about 55°C for the CPU and 31 / 32 °C for the battery (for this I don't remember exactly).
Extreme use (multiple benchs): about 72°C as far as I see for the CPU and about 38 / 40°C for the battery (maybe 42,**°C once).
Browsing while charging the battery is about 44°C and the CPU about 60°C +.
With _motley kernel, no undervolt, 486 Mhz / 1.51 Ghz, and CPU temp set to 70°C before thermal throttling.
I do agree that some people can have an overheating problem but not all the users / phones like we can read in different threads... and people that claims their phones overheats... when tey post the temperatures all is normal...
The feeling of warmth and real heat are two different things and it's very subjective to say "my phone is very hot".
Hi Viking37,
I feel fortable after reading your post.
I have been using Nexus 4 for a month on 4.2.2. and feel very bad on the heating and warm. (compared with previous Desire HD temperature)
I am based on Bateria App, showing only the Battery Temperature.
On Light use after 15 / 20 mins (Chrome or Dolphin browser on 3G): about 30 to 42°C on Battery, but i do not have CPU readings.
On Hard use after 30-45 mins (Youtube, Waze on 3G): about 30 to 42°C on Battery, but i do not have CPU readings.
I noticed i do not gets battery temp reading more than 42°C....
Hope you can advise what app you use to check the Battery and CPU temperature.
Thanks.
Hi ykit88,
You're welcome
For the CPU temperature I use System Tuner pro (on the Play Store and there is a free version), you can add a widget or download for free an "extension" to add the CPU temperature reading in the notification bar (you can set different update time).
There is also at least one more app (I mean that it works perfectly but I don't remember the name).
Your battery temp seems normal to me, it depends also of the room temperature and if you have a case (even if it does not have much influence).
@OP I don't know maybe is just because of Easter but I can't understand your first post, - is just too many Galaxies and I don't think there's Galaxy Nexus 4? But I may be as well wrong.
On the other hand phone getting hot is not an issue for me as HTC Desire used to get a lot hotter just with some browsing where you could smell a little bit of plastic
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Hi,
I agree... I had the 3 phones.
Maybe a thread that can help user about temperature or "pseudo" overheating...
When I see a thread like "My Nexus 4 is overheating, help me" it annoys me. No CPU / battery temperature indicating to see, just a "it feels hot, it overheats" or "I see some threads about Nexus 4 overheating, mine is also overheating, I read it " (it's real ).
Plus people confuse CPU / battery temperature...
Or people complain about "overheating" when playing a game or browsing while charging their phone...
Even 70°C for the CPU temperature is (almost for the the stressed people) nothing and there is a thermal protection in any case. Thermal throttling that reduces the CPU freq according to the CPU temp, same thing for the battery. And in case of extreme temperature -> shutdown.
I remember the max CPU temp for the Galaxy Nexus: 120°C before shutdown , it's not the same CPU but it can give an idea... The max for mine was about 90°C with some benchs, I see some people (simms22 if I remember right ) with something like about 110°C...
With my Nexus 4 (about 21°C room temperature):
Iddle temperature: 24 / 26°C for the CPU and 21°C for the battery
Light use after 15 / 20 mins (XDA app in 3g, homescreen setting): about 38 / 42°C (about 45°C with only XDA app) for the CPU and about 26 / 28 °C for the battery.
Hard use (browsing in 3g, Youtube, camera): about 55°C for the CPU and 31 / 32 °C for the battery (for this I don't remember exactly).
Extreme use (multiple benchs): about 72°C as far as I see for the CPU and about 38 / 40°C for the battery (maybe 42,**°C once).
Browsing while charging the battery is about 44°C and the CPU about 60°C +.
With _motley kernel, no undervolt, 486 Mhz / 1.51 Ghz, and CPU temp set to 70°C before thermal throttling.
I do agree that some people can have an overheating problem but not all the users / phones like we can read in different threads... and people that claims their phones overheats... when tey post the temperatures all is normal...
The feeling of warmth and real heat are two different things and it's very subjective to say "my phone is very hot".
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this. im sooo tired of telling people that their cpu temp is normal. it bugs me to see people posting that their phone is overheating at 45C, lol. someone even claimed that their 36C phone is overheating, when body temp is 37C
Very good explanation don't forgot the desire has only a single core. While the nexus 4 has 4 cores . It's only natural that it would get warm
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this. im sooo tired of telling people that their cpu temp is normal. it bugs me to see people posting that their phone is overheating at 45C, lol. someone even claimed that their 36C phone is overheating, when body temp is 37C
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i can barely feel the warmth of my phone at 34°C and i never even reached 40° due to uv
The really only reason why everyone has this idea of overheating is because the glass. It was mentioned a thousand times because glass conducts heat :
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Has anyone felt the phone get hotter with a case on rather than it being naked?
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Has anyone felt the phone get hotter with a case on rather than it being naked?
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Well, if you think a bit about it, it makes a lot of sense.
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Has anyone felt the phone get hotter with a case on rather than it being naked?
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Depends on what case your using.
Thin_Bezel said:
Wow,how did you managed to go to 66 C on the gs3. I,even with the charger plugged in and playing heavy games(MC4,NFSMW) i couldn't make it even to 45 C
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He said t999 your on the 9300 different phones. The s3 T999 does heat up pretty quick but compared to my g2x that really did overheat occasionally thee's run cold
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Anyone having lag issue playing with real racing 3 while charging? Btw the phone is quite hot too.
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That is exactly your problem... You should NEVER play intensive games when it's charging.. You're just doing harm to the battery and increasing temps thus more frequent throttling.
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Anyone having lag issue playing with real racing 3 while charging? Btw the phone is quite hot too.
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throttling, when the device heats up it will throttle, never game on the charger is a smartphone and not Sega Game Gear :laugh:
also custom kernels like ElementalX deals much better with throttling
Ok noted
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I'm still trying to figure out what is the reason behind not gaming while charging.
Temperature isn't a concern since this phone will throttle at the same temperature, regardless of charging or not. In one game, the phone will play to 42 degrees and keep it from going over. The phone reaches this temperature both plugged and unplugged. I do notice that the phone throttles more when plugged, but it successfully keeps the phone from getting any hotter than normal gaming temps.
So what is the reason not to game when plugged?
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I'm still trying to figure out what is the reason behind not gaming while charging.
Temperature isn't a concern since this phone will throttle at the same temperature, regardless of charging or not. In one game, the phone will play to 42 degrees and keep it from going over. The phone reaches this temperature both plugged and unplugged. I do notice that the phone throttles more when plugged, but it successfully keeps the phone from getting any hotter than normal gaming temps.
So what is the reason not to game when plugged?
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The battery heats up faster when charging
hamdir said:
throttling, when the device heats up it will throttle, never game on the charger is a smartphone and not Sega Game Gear :laugh:
also custom kernels like ElementalX deals much better with throttling
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Yeah, the One has better on screen time than the GG. LOL Man, those 6 AA's
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The battery heats up faster when charging
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The battery heats up fast even when not plugged in. Try it yourself.
Does anyone know, definitively, given what I wrote above, why we should not be gaming while plugged?
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The battery heats up fast even when not plugged in. Try it yourself.
Does anyone know, definitively, given what I wrote above, why we should not be gaming while plugged?
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Rapid charge and discharge while gaming is probably the biggest reason. Really burns through the miles on the battery.
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Rapid charge and discharge while gaming is probably the biggest reason. Really burns through the miles on the battery.
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But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
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But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
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Laptops are made to withstand heat, and the way laptops stay on when on the charger is different. Most laptops use half battery and half charger power. When it's plugged in, you can yank the battery out and the laptop will stay on while phones run primarily on battery regardless if it's plugged in or not (THIS IS BASED SOLELY FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE SO WILL PROBABLY BE HIGHLY INACCURATE)
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But on the charger you wouldn't be discharging, just a slower charge. With Dungeon Hunter 4, the phone will burn through the battery when unplugged, but it doesn't tax the system enough to discharge when plugged in.
I know previously, with my One X, super heavy games would cause it to slowly use up battery when plugged in. So I'm surprised I haven't seen that with the One. Maybe DH4 isn't as heavy as RR3.
But I'm starting to wonder if playing while plugged in is bad at all... consider laptops: If I wanted to play a game on my laptop, I would definitely have it plugged in. I don't think I've ever questioned whether that was bad or not. True, laptops have fans to keep it cool, but we already know the One will keep the battery below 43 degrees (at least for mine).
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My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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That's how it will be, and it kinda proves my theory too. Phones run on battery even when they are plugged in, and charging it while it's also rapidly discharging leads to a very hot and very slow charge.
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My One charging VERYY.......SLOW when I was playing real racing 3. It tooks sometime to increase by 1%. While on battery very fast.... drop few % in a short while....
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NEVER do a heavy task while you're charging your phone bro. Believe me, your phone "will not be happy".
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Also, I imagine laptops would be different as their power draw is so much greater than a phone. A laptop charger provides much more than ours, even tablets are this way. So then the question also extends to tablets: are you not supposed to game while plugged in on a tablet?
It would be nice if we had a technical answer to this from HTC or someone in the field. I hate having to constantly recharge my phone because I played a game on it for an hour... Especially this phone, it takes so damn long to charge!
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Just wondering who uses this to increase battery life? If so, what do y'all have checked?
I want to increase battery life but wonder if it's noticeable.
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Just wondering who uses this to increase battery life? If so, what do y'all have checked?
I want to increase battery life but wonder if it's noticeable.
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I don't use it I get 1 1/2 -2 days with light to moderate use with around 3 hours of screen on time
I use it and get the same as bigdaddy test it out see if you notice a difference each phone is defferent
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I use it with just couldn't and display checked. Get great battery but it also helps reduce the overheating problem slightly. I don't notice any difference in performance whatsoever.
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I use it and get the same as bigdaddy test it out see if you notice a difference each phone is defferent
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To be more accurate, each user is different. The phones are identical.
Power Saver mode will not save you any remarkable amount of battery unless you are maxing out the CPU or GPU (like playing games). Since what it does under the cover (besides what it advertises in the options) is downclock the CPU, this can actually be a detriment to battery life. It is better for battery life for the CPU to run at max speed for very short periods, and then go to sleep. It uses more power by running slower (and thus staying awake longer).
Again, it'll take a lot to really notice a change in either direction, though.
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To be more accurate, each user is different. The phones are identical.
Power Saver mode will not save you any remarkable amount of battery unless you are maxing out the CPU or GPU (like playing games). Since what it does under the cover (besides what it advertises in the options) is downclock the CPU, this can actually be a detriment to battery life. It is better for battery life for the CPU to run at max speed for very short periods, and then go to sleep. It uses more power by running slower (and thus staying awake longer).
Again, it'll take a lot to really notice a change in either direction, though.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the jury's still very much out on race-to-finish style processor governors. Sometimes they do well, sometimes they do badly. Either way, it depends on use case.
I would also hazard that it's very much an oversimplification to say that the phones are "identical." It's hardly unheard of for different production batches to use slightly different components. However, the impact from this is probably negligible compared to variations in user habit (and if it's not, then someone in QC/QA needs to go).
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the jury's still very much out on race-to-finish style processor governors. Sometimes they do well, sometimes they do badly. Either way, it depends on use case.
I would also hazard that it's very much an oversimplification to say that the phones are "identical." It's hardly unheard of for different production batches to use slightly different components. However, the impact from this is probably negligible compared to variations in user habit (and if it's not, then someone in QC/QA needs to go).
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Race-to-finish is pretty much the de-facto standard for every decent mobile device right now. It's even getting pushed onto laptops and their associated CPUs (like Haswell).
And I don't think it's an oversimplification if the differing components are only ones that are using on the order of micro-amps of power. They're not using different spec CPUs or something. That would be insanity.
Thanks Vincent for specifying that for me, I guess it's only roms because I have heard that each phone acts different. But this is new to me the phone uses more battery when it's at low speeds? I usually underclock to save battery while screen on as well as during sleep.
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SkinnyBiggs said:
Thanks Vincent for specifying that for me, I guess it's only roms because I have heard that each phone acts different. But this is new to me the phone uses more battery when it's at low speeds? I usually underclock to save battery while screen on as well as during sleep.
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When your phone is asleep, underclocking does nothing, because it's not really even running at all. This mostly applies when the screen is on as well, for any cores not active. 0mhz > any underclock you can manage
Hi,been on moto x for 20 days loving the phone,althogh i have a query regarding phone heating.whenever i charge the phone,phone nd charger get super hot and im kinda scared it would damage my phone,so i charge for 1 hour only,do your phone also geta hot.
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Think this is normal coz my Moto x also does that.. The charger becomes too hot and the phone too, but lesser than the charger..
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Its normal. Whenever I'm charging the phone and using it at the same time, the phone heats up as well as the charger. It happened with my last Motorola phone as well. No worries.
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I don't know, I mean OP is in Delhi, India, which is pretty hot, I am in Calcutta, hot here too, but still I can say after Galaxy S2 this is the coldest phone I have ever got. I mean yesterday I was charging at 1500 mA and playing Riptide simultaneously for more than an hour but still the heat was very manageable. On S4 while I charged that phone forget about gaming I could not even hold the phone to my ear in case of a phone call, it was that hot (the earpiece) that it seemed like it would burn by ear!
So I have zero complaints about the heating issue of this, because from my POV there is none. Also I am Overclocked at 1.9 GHz. So I really wonder when I see these heating issues, maybe different batch, don't know.
To be honest im at office which is centrally air conditioned and i charge my phone there in like crazy cold (our facilites manager suck ) and still its hot and i have been android user for quite long and i know what is normal hot like all android phones are and crazy hot . . do you guys think i should ask for replacement
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To be honest im at office which is centrally air conditioned and i charge my phone there in like crazy cold (our facilites manager suck ) and still its hot and i have been android user for quite long and i know what is normal hot like all android phones are and crazy hot . . do you guys think i should ask for replacement
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Well there are two ways to look at it. AC is on, and you saying crazy cold, so I am guessing below 25°C, and if ambiance is that low then when you touch the phone it will feel hot, cause when the phone is being charged the battery will definitely reach 35+ degrees, so anything higher than ambiance will feel hot.
From another point, if the ambiance is low then phone should not reach high temperatures, so it should not be hot.
Maybe use the phone in normal conditions? At around 30°C and check if you still feel it hot? If you still do then definitely ask for replacement.
Hi guys got my Moto X a week back... I was just wondering the optimal temperature range for X. I am usually getting 34°-39°C in normal use without using any heavy apps. Even when I use whatsapp or open play store this is the normal temperature range is 35°-39°C. While charging it goes upto 42°-46°C. I just want to know whether its normal for you guys as well. I also played reptile gp2 which can't be considered a very heavy game. The temperature clocked was 46°C.
Are all these temperature range normal. Please suggest if I should go for replacement. I could easily get a replacement since the phone is not even a week old.
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That should be fine even I am getting the temp levels
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35-39 is normal i guess
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