[Q] Can't decide to root or not to root - LG Optimus 4X HD

I am new to this phone, I have browsed through this forum yet I find it hard to decide whether to root my phone or not.
Currently I am on stock V10e with some service or pre-installed LG-ware disabled, and I have around 3.5 on-screen time with wifi and data off most of the time. My main usage of phone will be for texting and reading ebooks in text format. While the phone was in stand-by mode, it dropped 2-3% for an 8 hours sleep which I found to be superb.
My purpose of rooting would be to greenify the stock bloatware so as to extend the battery life. I found it hard to decide to root or not because I don't know if I could further extend my battery through rooting. The other concern is that I am afraid that if I XXXX up the rooting process, I might lose my warranty. So please help me with this. Thanks so much.

b886b said:
I am new to this phone, I have browsed through this forum yet I find it hard to decide whether to root my phone or not.
Currently I am on stock V10e with some service or pre-installed LG-ware disabled, and I have around 3.5 on-screen time with wifi and data off most of the time. My main usage of phone will be for texting and reading ebooks in text format. While the phone was in stand-by mode, it dropped 2-3% for an 8 hours sleep which I found to be superb.
My purpose of rooting would be to greenify the stock bloatware so as to extend the battery life. I found it hard to decide to root or not because I don't know if I could further extend my battery through rooting. The other concern is that I am afraid that if I XXXX up the rooting process, I might lose my warranty. So please help me with this. Thanks so much.
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Rooting will not do anything to your battery but rooting to unlock bootloader and flash custom rom will surety extend your battery life.
You'll also be able to freeze or delete LG's bloatware to improve your battery life.
If you root you will inevitably lose your warranty but you do not have to worry. You are not even on V20A (which is curious btw, why don't you update to jelly been) so rooting will be very easy.
I rooted my phone at least 20 times and never had problems. I still have my IMEI, my phone is working better than ever with custom rom and kernel.
Honestly rooting your phone should not be a problem and that's the first step into the customization of your phone
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ectoplasma22 said:
Rooting will not do anything to your battery but rooting to unlock bootloader and flash custom rom will surety extend your battery life.
You'll also be able to freeze or delete LG's bloatware to improve your battery life.
If you root you will inevitably lose your warranty but you do not have to worry. You are not even on V20A (which is curious btw, why don't you update to jelly been) so rooting will be very easy.
I rooted my phone at least 20 times and never had problems. I still have my IMEI, my phone is working better than ever with custom rom and kernel.
Honestly rooting your phone should not be a problem and that's the first step into the customization of your phone
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I am still on V10e because I got the phone 2 months ago and at that time JB hasn't been released yet. I am the type of wait-and-see guy, didn't want to jump into JB directly after it officially released. After JB was released, I noticed that many complained about the battery draining problem in stand-by mode and so here I am still on v10e.
Thanks for the reply man~ But I am curious, I have read on some thread that SuperSU has some sort of un-root mechanism. Is there any way that I could keep my warranty using this function? Or I have heard that making a system backup before rooting can help. However, I couldn't find any detail about this like what kind of software should I use to backup and restore the backup??

b886b said:
I am still on V10e because I got the phone 2 months ago and at that time JB hasn't been released yet. I am the type of wait-and-see guy, didn't want to jump into JB directly after it officially released. After JB was released, I noticed that many complained about the battery draining problem in stand-by mode and so here I am still on v10e.
Thanks for the reply man~ But I am curious, I have read on some thread that SuperSU has some sort of un-root mechanism. Is there any way that I could keep my warranty using this function? Or I have heard that making a system backup before rooting can help. However, I couldn't find any detail about this like what kind of software should I use to backup and restore the backup??
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rooting doesn't void your guarantee, as you can easily unroot. yes, the option is there.

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[Q] How to Unroot Lg Thrill?

Hello everyone,
It's nice to have a reason to be back in xda.
So recently I traded my iphone 4s for an LG Thrill + $150. So naturally, I made out of the deal. Anyway, upon receiving the phone, I noticed Superuser in the app drawer. Now I have never rooted an android before, so I would very much appreciate if someone could walk me through on how to do it, or link me to a thread that may explain it. The reason I am making my own thread about this is because Id also like a few questions answered if possible.
First of all, I want to unroot because I'm not sure if the previous owner installed any kind of tracking software on the phone, unlikely, but you never know. Also because I figure I will have to do it to update to ICS when it gets released for the Thrill. So I guess one of my questions are how do I tell what kind of stuff is installed on my phone from a rooted perspective. I noticed that for one unroot you need to have cwm installed, and i don't know how to go about to see if it is. I don't see it in the app drawer, so I'm not sure. Like I said, Ive never owned a rooted android before, only my jailbroken iphones.
Another question I had is that when I signed into my android email (I previously owned a motorola Xoom) it released an arsenal of unwanted emails and contacts into my phones contacts, I'm going to imagine there is a setting in the settings to untoggle this, and I will try to hunt it down, but if anyone could give me a heads up on where it is, thatd be ridiculously awesome.
Then another thing id like help with, is since im late in the game with the Thrill, maybe you could post any interesting threads youd think a newbie would like to see. I will spend my own time looking over xda (so please don't come in here and hate on me and tell me to look for it myself) I just figured you kind people that are in here a couple times a week would already know of some great stuff I could look at. It does get time consuming reading through the Troll posts and whatnot.
Anywho, Thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to talking to you all in the coming days!
If anyone could help me, I have never been rooted like stated, and I'm just trying to gushed what I should do. I found out he used super one click method to root. And I see superuser in the apparently drawer, but I don't see clockwork recovery at all (and I don't even know what that is/does, but I know its important.) If anyone could just start a dialogue with me to help me get some of this figured out I'd be very appreciative. I just don't want to ultimately brick my phone.
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I would check to see if clockwork mod recovery is installed first. If it is, then just install a different rom and you will know that any tracking stuff the previous user may have installed is gone.
To check for clockwork recovery, power your phone down completely. Hold the volume down button and the 3d button down, then press the power button until the phone vibrates and starts booting. If the phone boots normally, you don't have clockwork recovery. If you do have clockwork recovery, then install a custom rom from the development section and you're on your way. I like thriller and doomed froyo.
Enjoy!
-q
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Yes! I booted into an android recovery system, so I'm taking that I do have certain thanks, now I will have to look into the Roms.
Two side questions though, I will have to unroot before ICS right?
And when I turned off and booted like you said, once I got into the recovery attempt I just rebooted again, my battery was at 70 percent before the initial reboot and somhow now displaying it at 26 percent. Any ideas on that? I'm going to reset again to see if it drags back up. I am confused
EDIT: After turning it off on the battery is still reading in the twenty percent. I know for a fact that it should be up in the sixty seventy range. Does loading into recovery really destroy your battery like that? I had already done a full life cycle on the battery so I can't imagine that the batteries the issue
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So I just removed then replaced the battery and now its reading at 35 percent. Is this normal?
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Hey... haven't been checking this forum for a few days. It sounds like your battery stats are hosed. In cwr there is an option to wipe battery stats. That should do the trick.
You do not need to un-root in order to install a custom rom. The only thing to watch out for is what baseband the rom was developed for. The thrill ships with "froyo", Google's android 2.2 operating system and that's the only OS version that the baseband will function with. It is possible to flash the baseband from another country where "gingerbread" (2.3) has been released. Unfortunately this means that you may lose quite a bit of functionality on your phone. This is because the frequencies used in the country where that baseband was used are different. You are pretty much guaranteed to lose 4g and might get horrible signal on 3g.
Personally I will be waiting for at&t to roll out gingerbread for the thrill before I go down that path. You can still flash froyo based roms like Thriller and Doomed Froyo. Look for them in the "android development" subforum here.
Good luck!
-q
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It may be that the stats are shot, or it may be a glitch that (I think) the Thrill has. I remember reading at one point that simply turning the phone on and off would drain 10-20% of its battery, and mine has seemed to do the few times that I actually watched it... It's really annoying when you just want to restart the phone to apply something and then have to live with a smaller battery life for the rest of the day.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the input, and I will check that out in clockwork recovery.
I was worried about unrooting to install ics when it comes out, but I figure that may be a year or so :rolls eyes: but i think I found the forum for unrooting in the development section.
Also thanks for the warning on the baseband, I'm really glad I haven't gotten around to putting a rom on my thrill because I was looking at a gb one. You just saved my phone!
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I realise this wont answer your question but it might help you in a general since. I was in your position few months ago. I did play with roms some. I found what worked for me was ordering a higher capacity battery (link found in the accessory section), and the Doomed Froyo rom. Gave me the control I was used to from jailbreak ios and the extra battery life helps. Do a few searches for essential root apps before you play with roms. You need basics like root file explorer and titanium backing and so on. Enjoy your thrill
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Installing Paranoid Android ROM

I purchased my Samsung Galaxy Note around 1.5 months ago and, whilst the device like all of its many competitors has undeniable flaws, I have been relatively impressed so far. Yet, as a replacement for both my phone or tablet (which is what I originally purchased it as), I felt it hasn't quite filled the slot of a tablet entirely for me. The Nexus 7 Google unveiled yesterday is extremely tempting; there are some amazing specifications on offer for the money. Yet, for just 2 inches extra of screen real estate, I find it hard to justify the cost. I'm looking to optimise my device as a tablet, whilst retaining phone functionality in full, and Paranoid Android looks to fill that. But, first I have some questions.
The S-Pen was a big appeal to me when purchasing the Note, as I use S Planner, S Memo and S Note to effectively manage my school homework tasks. It's proved really helpful and I'd hate to lose it. So, will it be possible to get the S-Pen apps mentioned above working in full with the S-Pen on Paranoid Android? Is it possible to also get the screenshot functionality using the secondary button on the pen working on this ROM?
I am running the stock ICS, which is infected with the brick bug. Being only 14, I don't have much technological know-how and ruining my phone would get me in serious trouble with my parents (I can't afford another phone if I were to break it). How difficult is it to safely install this ROM? I assume it isn't affected by a dodgy kernel?
How is the performance and battery life for this ROM? Is it an improvement or decrease in terms of battery from the stock ROM? Does running in tablet mode on this ROM use more battery?
When you install this ROM, do you then have to still root it? If so, how can I root this ROM? Also, can you over-clock and under-clock the processor on this ROM?
Finally, is it possible to still use Kies with this ROM installed (both Air and plugged into computer versions)? I also would like a way to back-up and restore my main contacts too should I successfully install this ROM.
I have always wondered this, but could you find a phone shop who'd do this for you for a price obviously?
Phone shops.... maybe ??
Ebay.. Hell yes !!
OR..... You could just read the guides, take your time and do it yourself Save you some money and you will learn A LOT too !!
Its really not as hard as it looks, Its overwhelming at first, But slowly take your time and it will all make sense
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Phone shops.... maybe ??
Ebay.. Hell yes !!
OR..... You could just read the guides, take your time and do it yourself Save you some money and you will learn A LOT too !!
Its really not as hard as it looks, Its overwhelming at first, But slowly take your time and it will all make sense
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So, what guides do I begin with? And, I'm not sending my phone off to somebody on eBay to have it flashed...
Brad387 said:
[*]The S-Pen was a big appeal to me when purchasing the Note, as I use S Planner, S Memo and S Note to effectively manage my school homework tasks. It's proved really helpful and I'd hate to lose it. So, will it be possible to get the S-Pen apps mentioned above working in full with the S-Pen on Paranoid Android? Is it possible to also get the screenshot functionality using the secondary button on the pen working on this ROM?
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You will lose all S pen apps and features, Your S-pen will become a stylus, However there are similar apps to the S note ect. on the market, Just have a look around and check the themes and app sections, Also ask what other users are using
[*]I am running the stock ICS, which is infected with the brick bug. Being only 14, I don't have much technological know-how and ruining my phone would get me in serious trouble with my parents (I can't afford another phone if I were to break it). How difficult is it to safely install this ROM? I assume it isn't affected by a dodgy kernel?
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For me, its easy, Because i know how to do it, If you dont know, READ, READ, READ, DO NOT RUSH !!. If in doubt..........ASK !
If you are on GB already, the process is much simpler
[*]How is the performance and battery life for this ROM? Is it an improvement or decrease in terms of battery from the stock ROM? Does running in tablet mode on this ROM use more battery?
[*]When you install this ROM, do you then have to still root it? If so, how can I root this ROM? Also, can you over-clock and under-clock the processor on this ROM?
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The performance is epic ! AOSP is a absolute beauty, Battery life is good, 99% of battery drain is down to the user and their setup. So get it right and you'll be fine. Tablet mode doesnt use any more battery than phone mode would, The ROM is pre-rooted so thats another thing you dont have to worry about. Also, You *CAN* over clock if the kernel supports it. However, I really doubt you will need any OC on this ROM as its immensely fast.
[*]Finally, is it possible to still use Kies with this ROM installed (both Air and plugged into computer versions)? I also would like a way to back-up and restore my main contacts too should I successfully install this ROM.
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Kies is a samsung app, So it will not work on an AOSP ROM, google backs up your contacts, and if you are rooted, Titanium backup will also back them up, along with all your apps, messages, data and pretty much anything else for that matter.
EDIT: start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
So, if I'm not mistaken, this is what I have to do...
Root the stock ICS.
Flash back to Gingerbread.
Flash on Paranoid Android ROM.
Is there absolutely no way to transfer over the S-Pen apps? Also, are there any apps which allow you to capture screenshots on Android as that is a pretty useful feature for me. If anyone would be willing, perhaps I could add them on Google+ or alternatively message them on here as this is all very intimidating to me, yet the shown results for this ROM look amazing. The idea of using the tablet version of my apps, which are often the better versions, appeals to me.
On a side note...
Also, is there any news of Samsung releasing a fix for the brick bug and, if we are a sufferer of it, wouldn't the update be a danger as it would need to wipe data?
Brad387 said:
So, if I'm not mistaken, this is what I have to do...
Root the stock ICS.
Flash back to Gingerbread.
Flash on Paranoid Android ROM.
Is there absolutely no way to transfer over the S-Pen apps? Also, are there any apps which allow you to capture screenshots on Android as that is a pretty useful feature for me. If anyone would be willing, perhaps I could add them on Google+ or alternatively message them on here as this is all very intimidating to me, yet the shown results for this ROM look amazing. The idea of using the tablet version of my apps, which are often the better versions, appeals to me.
On a side note...
Also, is there any news of Samsung releasing a fix for the brick bug and, if we are a sufferer of it, wouldn't the update be a danger as it would need to wipe data?
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You can pm me.
No need to root ics just flash gingerbead using odin pc. Then root and install cwm then yes flash paraniod.
The s apps require samsung frame work which is only in stock roms sorry but there other apps on the market and yea there aee plent of screen shoot apps to
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zacthespack said:
You can pm me.
No need to root ics just flash gingerbead using odin pc. Then root and install cwm then yes flash paraniod.
The s apps require samsung frame work which is only in stock roms sorry but there other apps on the market and yea there aee plent of screen shoot apps to
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Sent you a PM.
Worst case scenario? Could I permanently ruin my phone if I messed this up?
yes but you wont
you could potentially die crossing a road, but you're careful so you dont lol, same method applies
azzledazzle said:
yes but you wont
you could potentially die crossing a road, but you're careful so you dont lol, same method applies
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I suppose so, but I'm still not sure if it is worth the risk. Anyone here tried Paranoid Android by the way? Does it work well?
Damn! I really want this ROM, but I see my attempts to install most definitely not ending well...
Don't know what to do?
In your situation I would not attempt to do anything flashing, rooting, etc. to your phone until you have read, read, and read enough to the point where you feel that you have a pretty good understanding of what you're doing and you're confident enough to make the attempt to root, flash, etc. You and you alone are responsible for any errors occurred during the rooting, flashing process and that's why it's VERY IMPORTANT TO READ AND UNDERSTAND BEFORE DOING ANYTHING TO YOUR DEVICE!
I did this myself a few days ago. First i thought it is very difficult. After i did it, i thought it is very easy.
Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802
Problem is, the instructions are not really step by step, and they are not very clear either.
The basic steps:
Note that you should probably backup your internal memory like contacts, smses, apps, etc.
Use google account to sync, SMSbak, APPbak, and titanium backup, all from google play store.
Then:
Install GB 2.3.5, links in post above. This is totally safe using odin. You can't brick your phone by this.
Then, get the cf-root kernel that matches your selected GB kernel, from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Unzip and merge with the install script and then Flash as per instruction.
Now you have a rooted GB kernel with the required 'CWM recovery console'.
Download the PA rom as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802 and save to internal memory [or maybe to sd card].
Reboot into recovery console by pressing power+ vol up+ home button until samsung logo appears. Let go and you are in CWM.
Flash as per PA post above. Then select the several options to clear the various caches, as per PA post.
That's it. Reboot.

[Q] Is rooting/flashing worth it?

Hello!,I've had the Atrix HD for a little under a year now, and I was just wondering if rooting the phone is worth it. I've looked at the Development section and all that, but this is my first Android phone, and I'm worried about messing up and bricking my phone with no warranty. So is it worth it?
boredperson said:
Hello!,I've had the Atrix HD for a little under a year now, and I was just wondering if rooting the phone is worth it. I've looked at the Development section and all that, but this is my first Android phone, and I'm worried about messing up and bricking my phone with no warranty. So is it worth it?
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Its worth it.
I just rooted one yesterday its easy if you read
boredperson said:
Hello!,I've had the Atrix HD for a little under a year now, and I was just wondering if rooting the phone is worth it. I've looked at the Development section and all that, but this is my first Android phone, and I'm worried about messing up and bricking my phone with no warranty. So is it worth it?
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if you love custamisation, and want to make full use of it, it is worth, else, go with the original one...
boredperson said:
Hello!,I've had the Atrix HD for a little under a year now, and I was just wondering if rooting the phone is worth it. I've looked at the Development section and all that, but this is my first Android phone, and I'm worried about messing up and bricking my phone with no warranty. So is it worth it?
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You will be amazed what this beast is really capable of once you root and get a custom ROM which have no bloatwares.
In my case games like subway surfer used to lag on the stock JB but after rooting it is all smooth ride .
Go ahead and install mythtools ( say thanks to the dev) and unlock the bootloader and root it.
Bricking your phone is really difficult even if you intend to do so . So get going and post back when you are rooted.
boredperson said:
Hello!,I've had the Atrix HD for a little under a year now, and I was just wondering if rooting the phone is worth it. I've looked at the Development section and all that, but this is my first Android phone, and I'm worried about messing up and bricking my phone with no warranty. So is it worth it?
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Rooting has essentially no chance of bricking your phone. What you do after you get root? That's a different story...
Unlocking your bootloader actually makes you safer if you have no warranty anyway. If you flash a custom recovery then you can back up your stock ROM and recover at any point or flash to a much nicer custom ROM. I'm running XenonHD personally and I'm very impressed with it. They recently added the option to overclock the processor to 1.9GHz and I've had a huge performance jump in games and multitasking. Now I just need the EB40 to support it.
If you're a new user then READ EVERYTHING THOUROUGHLY before you proceed. I consider myself rather skilled and even I have had a couple "OH SHI-" moments because I didn't read enough.
tldr: DO IT! But be careful.
Rooting was definitely worth it. Enabled tethering (on T-Mobile, so it would never have worked otherwise), AdFree, Screen Standby (while streaming video on hotel TVs).
Bootloader unlocking I haven't done it. I've lost a phone before and the idea that someone can get through the lock screen, access my data and use the phone bothers me.
diamond12 said:
Rooting was definitely worth it. Enabled tethering (on T-Mobile, so it would never have worked otherwise), AdFree, Screen Standby (while streaming video on hotel TVs).
Bootloader unlocking I haven't done it. I've lost a phone before and the idea that someone can get through the lock screen, access my data and use the phone bothers me.
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If that's what you're afraid of then don't root...seriously. All that's necessary is adb with root access and all your info is mine.
adb root
adb pull /data /local/directory
adb pull /sdcard /local/directory
adb pull /external_sd /local/directory
some things are encrypted, some not. Not sure if its still this way, but WiFi passwords used to be stored as unencrypted text files on /data....CM7, btw.
Anyone of us here could steal your data if we had physical access to your device, some of us if you are on stock, no root, no unlocked bootloader.
The safest way is to have an unlocked bootloader, a password protected recovery (we don't a have one), and disable adb completely. Even then, I could get around that and access your stuff (snap-fastboot flash recovery non-protected-recovery.img ). There is no way to fully lock out an android power user from an android phone, simple as that.
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Hello!,I've had the Atrix HD for a little under a year now, and I was just wondering if rooting the phone is worth it.
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Ohhh boy. I can't wait to see all the comments on this lol.
Yea its definitely worth it. Rooting/unlocking boot loader makes it so you can: 1) flash roms. 2) change the CPU speed at which you phone runs. 3) change you boot loader image (the animation that happens when you phone turns on/off). 4) and the most appealing one (to me), get ride of all that #!*[email protected]!-+ blootwere (apps that come preinstalled that you don't use but aren't able to delete, thus freeing up a lot of memory/ram)
If your worried about bricking you phone, its become pretty hard to permanently brick It as long as you have the determination to fix it.
The MythTools will help you root/unlock bootloader/flash cwm for you so no worries about screwing up
Hit "thanks" if this helps!
Sent from my PACman Atrix HD
I think rooting my atrix hd was well worth it in terms of de bloating all the junk off my phone that just slowed it down.
Not to mention with the PACMAN rom which I LOVE!!!!, you can also overclock the cpu to 2GHZ which is insane fast my girlfriend has the same phone and hers is so slow compared to mine now.
With the PACMAN rom and all the customization available like for example, under the launcher settings I set the transition effect in both the homescreens and apps drawer to cylinder out effect, which pretty much gave the phone a almost complete 3d UI effect along with HD Widgets.
I wouldn't take back rooting mine.
I rooted, unlocked the bootloader, and downgraded back to ICS so I could use the lapdock my dad got me for my birthday. I'm still on stock but I liked the stock look, just had to get rid of that horrible bloatware eating up my space. It was all worth it and I was a afraid to do it at first and just waited. Mythtools came out and it took no time at all to get it done. Try it, I think you'll like it
Rooting is well worth the trouble. It took me 6hrs to root my galaxy s3 and I flashed cm 10.1. I love the customization, speed, themes, boot animations etc... The main thing about it is you have to do back-ups quite a bit.
Sent from my brain to your eyes, to your brain, using my Galaxy S3, running Cm 10.1. I'm in your head now.

Rooting NIGHTMARES!

Hi all,
So my Nexus 4 arrived today and I'm umming and ahhing as to root or not.
I've heard all the good things about doing it but I'm interested in peoples rooting nightmares. What's gone wrong? When have you wanted to throw your phone out the window?
Look forward to reading!
noahdev said:
Hi all,
So my Nexus 4 arrived today and I'm umming and ahhing as to root or not.
I've heard all the good things about doing it but I'm interested in peoples rooting nightmares. What's gone wrong? When have you wanted to throw your phone out the window?
Look forward to reading!
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It really takes a tremendous effort to screw it up, it really does.
Cliff's Notes/summary, not an actual guide:
1. Learn to do it the old fashioned (and easiest way) by installing the drivers and using fastboot.
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
4. flash your SU binaries zip
5. b00m!
CMNein said:
It really takes a tremendous effort to screw it up, it really does.
Cliff's Notes/summary, not an actual guide:
1. Learn to do it the old fashioned (and easiest way) by installing the drivers and using fastboot.
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
4. flash your SU binaries zip
5. b00m!
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In that case I'll lower my requirements. Anyone done it and thought 'You know what, I prefer the stock experience.'?
noahdev said:
In that case I'll lower my requirements. Anyone done it and thought 'You know what, I prefer the stock experience.'?
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Yes actually. I thought rooting it was great and all, even went for custom kernels. The thing is, when you get all the updates that Google provides on a near instant basis, there is no need to root and rom your phone. Also, I feel like it doesn't provide too much extra for the experience. On a side note, when I had an HTC Sensation, I would root and rom just to get the newest and greatest from Google.
Your choice, but I like getting OTA's and don't run any SU apps.
Drebin 894 said:
Yes actually. I thought rooting it was great and all, even went for custom kernels. The thing is, when you get all the updates that Google provides on a near instant basis, there is no need to root and rom your phone. Also, I feel like it doesn't provide too much extra for the experience. On a side note, when I had an HTC Sensation, I would root and rom just to get the newest and greatest from Google.
Your choice, but I like getting OTA's and don't run any SU apps.
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Rooting means you are:
- able to make nandroid and Titanium Backups
- run a good custom kernel for color and sound control, better batterylife and performance and lower cpu temperatures
- install adblockers and other usefull apps.
If these aren`t improvements i don`t know what is and you might as well buy an iPhone for stock xperience, just my 2 cents.
BTW: @OP: rooting nightmares only occur with mis and badly informed users.
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Rooting means you are:
- able to make nandroid and Titanium Backups
- run a good custom kernel for color and sound control, better batterylife and performance and lower cpu temperatures
- install adblockers and other usefull apps.
If these aren`t improvements i don`t know what is and you might as well buy an iPhone for stock xperience, just my 2 cents.
BTW: @OP: rooting nightmares only occur with mis and badly informed users.
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Yes, but I feel like I don't need them on my phone. I don't need to back up apps as I am not switching roms, I like getting the OTA updates, and I don't care about ads on mobile because I never see them anyway, either through paid apps or little browsing.
Drebin 894 said:
Yes, but I feel like I don't need them on my phone. I don't need to back up apps as I am not switching roms, I like getting the OTA updates, and I don't care about ads on mobile because I never see them anyway, either through paid apps or little browsing.
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Too each his own bro
I fully agree to each his own but if you do not see the advantages and personalization rooti g gives you then most likelyyou are the type tthat is satisfied with what you get. For me T9 calling alone is worth it, adjusting scree colors, raising the sound level,showing actual dBm signal strength, removal of all apps I don't want that were preloaded, darker ui experience. Now if you never try this then you wont miss it but its not lime you can't root it then unroot if you are not happy.
Bottom line updates will come the same day here whether rooted or not and these updates can also come with goodies...
Edit: Also lets be honest in a forum of 100.000's of members and rooter you will find maybe a few hundred or so that may have an issue and most of them I guarantee you was because of them not following directions properly. Thats what makes for rooting nightmares. Remember even non rooters from time to time have to restore their phones for one crazy reason or another. Now you have to restore back to 1 year ago when you first got the phone...SMH
I am having some trouble rooting and puting a custom recovery on my new Nexus 4, I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed the custom recovery through fastboot, but its not sticking, I don't know whats wrong.
UNless youir getting deadlocks letting your phone charge overnight, I would stay on stock.
CM is great, but there are just always broken things and bugs that will eventaully piss you off when you want to do something.
noahdev said:
Hi all,
What's gone wrong?
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Absolutely nothing, except for the very slight inconvenience of having to re-root or re-install TWRP after doing an Android operating system OTA update. Not only that, but I now have several "root only" apps that I needed, I have full access to the Linux command line programs which I use, and I am learning a lot about the Android OS lower level stuff. For me anyway, I really have no desire to install custom ROMS, as stock rooted Android does everything I want it to do.
There are stock based custom roms with CM type customization's... Again unless you have tried a stock customized rom with advancements you should not be judging. Also you don't have to use each cutsomization you can actually leave it stock and only use 1 or 2 custom items. Check out PSX 4.1 bone stock with a handful of customizations
There is really only one thing that annoys me about stock and that is the oversized Nav bottons. I just wished they made them smaller or gave us the otion to change the size. This is available on custom Roms and gives you more screen real-estate which definitley makes a difference.
That is one thing that keeps pulling me to custom Roms. I was running AOKP which seemed to run pretty good. I restored my phone back to stock because I thought I was having an issue with the notification light but then saw it just needed an app to make it work the way I was expecting it to.
So I have my phone rooted on stock 4.3 right now and I just wish I can make those Nav bars smaller! There are definitley cool features on some of the custom Roms though and it most certaintly can enhance your experience.
If ur not using the toolkit, then you should be.. If ur using and still manage to screw things, you should leave ur phone stock... The toolkits are already noob proof..
Connect phone to PC
Unlock boot loader
Root
Install recovery
Install ROM....
Its all 1 click each or some toolkits does it all in 1 click...
Rooted and running Paranoid Android + franco.kernel
my nightmare came from me going to fast... i missed a step and screwed up my phone...
i was able to get a stock image and reflash it, but it was a grueling 2 hours with a soft-bricked phone.
read all the stuff you can, and don't rush it.
Lucke said:
my nightmare came from me going to fast... i missed a step and screwed up my phone...
i was able to get a stock image and reflash it, but it was a grueling 2 hours with a soft-bricked phone.
read all the stuff you can, and don't rush it.
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Please don't take this the wrong way... but you being the only person with a real horror story is quite comforting!
noahdev said:
Please don't take this the wrong way... but you being the only person with a real horror story is quite comforting!
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no offense taken thats what i get for trying to root it while at work dealing with an Exchange upgrade
You can't really screw up a nexus device. It's not like Samsung where you hard flash the wrong version for the wrong phone and end up with a paperweight. If you mess up with nexus you can always return back
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My last nightmare with rooting was from htc desire hd, lots of bullcrap to be done, lots of s**t pre requisite..goldcard, emmc etc., ugh gives me headaches for days :/
Just use wugfresh toolkit and its a breeze
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Lollipop battery life.

Please post how battery life is working versus kitkat.
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Mine isn't noticeably different. In fact I haven't noticed any issues whatsoever (yet). It's only been a few days though.
Going from jelly bean to kitkat killed battery life... Took the sacrifice because of GPS bug, Wife was hoping this update would help it.
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Mine is horrible....weather app GPS stays on constantly...I can't get a whole day anymore. Weather app and some Daemon something says battery usage high. I even put weather refresh to every 3 hours and GPS icon constantly pops up in notification panel
I surprisingly get better battery life on Lollipop I came from Firekat and that ROM is better in terms of battery life from stock 4.4.2, but this Lollipop kills it all for me!
My battery life is better than it was, but the thing I'm really happy about is that my GPS locks MUCH faster than it was.
I am really liking lollipop. My battery life was good previously on firekat but I am sitting over 10% more battery and used it more than usual.
iblakejames said:
I surprisingly get better battery life on Lollipop I came from Firekat and that ROM is better in terms of battery life from stock 4.4.2, but this Lollipop kills it all for me!
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I wanna pull the plug on this, also from FireKat. How did you do it? Did you just accept the OTA somehow? or did you use the Lollipop backup recovery method?
I don't know what should I do.
Thanks in advance...
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I wanna pull the plug on this, also from FireKat. How did you do it? Did you just accept the OTA somehow? or did you use the Lollipop backup recovery method?
I don't know what should I do.
Thanks in advance...
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I flashed back to stock unrooted NC2 with odin. I did lose all my stuff though so I would backup before you do. Or you could odin to stock OC1 and save all the trouble of OTA.
iblakejames said:
I flashed back to stock unrooted NC2 with odin. I did lose all my stuff though so I would backup before you do. Or you could odin to stock OC1 and save all the trouble of OTA.
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Thanks a lot. I was thinking of trying to keep the root. But it's a very involved procedure. I'll just ODIN back and accept the OTA...
I would safestrap if you desire root. Worst case scenario you then use odin to stock.
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Battery life has been great with 5.0, disable all ATT bloat and Greenify all your user apps. Pushing 10 hours of on-screen time with stock battery.
My battery life has taken a nose dive. I am stock not rooted and barely make it 8-9 hours before I am at 5%. Before the OTA I was easily a day and a half. Something has changed. I have disable some "Unified Daemon (EUR)" but it didn't help much at all.
Can anyone help. After updating battery life sucks. Having issue with interest as well. If I turn WiFi then 4G let won't work.
Well an update or something changed last night as now my battery life is ba c k to normal if not better. For the past week I was lucky to get 8 hours on a charge even in power save mode. Today after 8 hours I am still at 88 percent, battery meter now projects 3 days left before recharge. The offending app must have been discovered and corrected. I am on stock.
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