Original Android Development - what belongs here? - Galaxy S Advance I9070 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

We will be more strict about what belongs in Original Development Section.
So it is possible your ROM will be moved.
For more information about this section you can read this article.
The following are most likely “Original Development”:
Official releases of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them
Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.
A significant “first” in development for a device. Significant is subjective, but it is likely something which took considerable time/effort, and is generally accepted by developers to be significant and non-trivial.
Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available. Some element of original work is expected.
Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.
Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to users of the target device. The port should be beneficial (a port from two virtually identical devices isn’t original development, it’s winzipping, and nobody really benefits from this, as it’s not development)
The following are most likely not “Original Development”, and should be posted in the “Android Development” subforum:
Your own “unofficial” stock build of your favourite original, source-built (or otherwise) ROM, particularly where an official or maintainer-endorsed thread exists already.
Minor derivatives of other ROMs with little or no changes, or ROMs consisting of “placebo” features as a main constituent or claim.
Renames or rebadges of others’ work – these don’t belong on XDA at all! Refer to rule 12 for more information.
Reposts of existing ROMs with small changes (i.e. kitchen work, such as adding a couple of apps). If you could realistically distribute your changes as an “addon pack” above and beyond a ROM, you should do so. In addition, your “ROM” would not be original development as it would be substantially identical to the original ROM.
A thread created with unrealistic goals that are clearly unachievable by those starting the thread. This is not intended to discourage high aspirations, rather to prevent threads porting Windows Phone 8 to the HTC Wallaby. This is pretty much common sense.
A ROM where a main or significant claim/feature is graphical changes to the user interface (ie. Themed ROM)
If some of ROM/kernels/mods mentioned above are in the different section, please contact the moderator and request moving either by PM or report button.
Thank you.
I thought this should be here. Probably the mods forgot to put it here.

Cool, now I don't have to type it all out :good:
I've left a redirect to the general forum so you all have a place to discuss it. If there are any you are unsure of or think we've missed please report it or feel free to PM one of us.
@efrant, @graffixnyc, @veyka, @The-Captain, @Jonny, @xHausx, @Steve0007, @a.cid, @Aquethys, @Towle, @TheDeadCPU

I guess MIUI work by Fede and kernel flash tool should be moved to that category according to this
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frapeti said:
I guess MIUI work by Fede and kernel flash tool should be moved to that category according to this
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I think This Kernel Flashing Program by Chry_Gigio should also be moved to that category imho
And I think this topic should be a sticky...

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Maybe some other PA rom, could be Mr.xD97's right?. To categorize. I don't know about it's origins but i think it should be moved there.
P.S. Original Android Developement guide thread moved to general section lol. Isn't it supposed to kept where it was?
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AnMotass said:
Maybe some other PA rom, could be Mr.xD97's right?. To categorize. I don't know about it's origins but i think it should be moved there.
P.S. Original Android Developement guide thread moved to general section lol. Isn't it supposed to kept where it was?
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No mr xd's rom isn't built from source but based on already built cm
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AnMotass said:
Maybe some other PA rom, could be Mr.xD97's right?. To categorize. I don't know about it's origins but i think it should be moved there.
P.S. Original Android Developement guide thread moved to general section lol. Isn't it supposed to kept where it was?
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and that's the bad thing about tapatalk and sticky threads

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[Library] Optimus Black ROM Library

As said in the title, this for everyone who have troubles looking for a ROM of you choice.
First things first, the first post shall be putting ROMs under its base. (Eg. CM. Etc)
At the bottom of this post shall be ROMs grouped under speed
Second post shall group ROMs under stability
Third category (In 2nd post after Stability) shall group ROMs under popularity
-ALL GROUPINGS ARE MADE THROUGH COMMENTS OF EACH OT
START
Grouped By Base
CyanogenMod7 (CM7)
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Official CM7
Boype's Modded CM7
Temasek's KANG
SEMC Debrand Engine
MIUI
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MIUI v2.4.1 | v2.3.7 By Tantrums
MIUI v2.1a | Aroma
ShenduOS
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Official ShenduOS
Mercurified
MokeeOS
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CICI ROM
Stock Froyo
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NOVA
Pays-ROM
Stock Gingerbread
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Zues
Noa V5 Sense + SE
SUPRESSED ROM
Many more... adding time by time
Stock ICS
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Nope. Not yet
CM9
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Free Optimus Project | FOP CM9
PARANOIDANDROID | CM9HYBRID
AOKP
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Unofficial AOKP
CM10
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Not yet
[/QUOTE]
Grouped according to speed
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EXTREMELY FAST
Zues v6.39
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Fast
Above-Average
Normal
Below Average
Unacceptable
Grouped By Stability
Grouped by Popularity
TOP is most popular
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Zues v6.39
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No links? Btw, look into my noob how to... I already made a list of availible ROMs Stability is relativ, so ranking ROMs according to it, doesnt make sence, since it is different for almost every user, as you can see in all of the ROM threads. And why would you wanna rank them according to popularity? Everyone has to choose on his own, if he likes a ROM or not. So I think, this is just another obsolete post of you...
N00BY0815 said:
No links? Btw, look into my noob how to... I already made a list of availible ROMs Stability is relativ, so ranking ROMs according to it, doesnt make sence, since it is different for almost every user, as you can see in all of the ROM threads. And why would you wanna rank them according to popularity? Everyone has to choose on his own, if he likes a ROM or not. So I think, this is just another obsolete post of you...
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Nooby, By popularity
I mean by downloads
By stability, i see the consumer satisfaction (Number of reported problems)
Please get your thinking right. Always think positive.
Peace
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I also agree with nooby. This is ..... well just doesn't make any sense ! Users experience is different with almost everyone. What's stable for you could not be for me regardless of reported problems or whatever. And I think the best way to find popularity is simple...start a poll with a list of the roms and ask what rom everyone uses as a daily driver can't go buy downloads or post count or however you plan to figure that out.
There were already lists of ROMs and polls with ROMs.
Most of the ROMs get abandoned soon after release, so there's no point to install such ROM - no bugs will be corrected, no future improvements will be introduced.
I doubt you will be able to maintain this list...
Which is the Zues ROM? I don't know that one, but I know the Zeus ROM though
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Could you regularly upload roms which are not contained on xda? For example official Mokee OS, ShenduOS and other Asian roms and those which are contained on other forums.
That would give this thread some much needed depth, but in saying that it is also missing something. This thread has already been done by N00BY and needs something extra so ppl won't ask for it to be closed.
Maybe do some research into each rom and note changes or benefit/problems with each from in comparison to its base.
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I don't think there's any harm in having this thread. If he has the time, it's admirable that he wants to contribute to the community.
P.S Not taking sides or anything, but some people do go by popularity in choosing ROMs/customization (eg. no. of downloads of an app).
2c
Again, just looking for some THANKS, why don't stop being an Attention Hoe, this is again an useless topic. There is a Search bar and Developer Sub Forum, thats the reason for everything.
Mexickano said:
Again, just looking for some THANKS, why don't stop being an Attention Hoe, this is again an useless topic. There is a Search bar and Developer Sub Forum, thats the reason for everything.
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You too are looking for attention. Many people thanks when they think its right. So you are also. Face the mirror and reflect on yourself before mentoring others. I want to help the community, not like you, flaming. If you notice. I have never flamed.
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XDA isn't a popularity contest site, it's a development site. What appeals to one may not appeal to the other, comparisons do nothing but cause problems. We have ROM listings, that's all we need.

JellyBam Rom

So I stumbled upon a rom today that I have heard of in the past and just randomly went to there new revamped site to find out that they have new stable builds out. I flashed the latest build and wow, very impressed.....I have no idea why they have no presences on XDA for MAKO. So I posted on their Facebook to inquire as to why they don't have a development thread here. Doesn't make any sense at all since it appears to be an awesome rom and very much up to date with the latest changes to PA, AOKP, etc. Just thought I would share since most people might not be aware of the dev support for this rom but on their official site.
Mod Edit on links
Thanks dude. Downloading now. Will post any issue if i met.
I think he is not the developer. He just tries to show us this ROM, cause it's not represented here on xda.
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Constantly said:
I think he is not the developer. He just tries to show us this ROM, cause it's not represented here on xda.
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Correct.
That's because the maker and said ROM are banned from XDA.

What are the newest most stable rom releases?

Hi
I must say I am a bit disconnected from the Android world since I get to university and I must ask how all have evolved. I'm looking for the newest most stable custom roms at the moment of this post. I think it would be a good idea to maintain a post like this to keep track of what roms have reached a stable, proven state without having to dig too much.
Cheers!
16bitboy said:
Hi
I must say I am a bit disconnected from the Android world since I get to university and I must ask how all have evolved. I'm looking for the newest most stable custom roms at the moment of this post. I think it would be a good idea to maintain a post like this to keep track of what roms have reached a stable, proven state without having to dig too much.
Cheers!
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Well there's the RC4 build (release candidate 4) of cyanogen mod 10.1 that's quite good. Its based on android 4.2.2.
Take note that you should ask questions in the questions section and ROM discussions are generally frowned upon so do venture into the development section to learn more about them.
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ballsofsteel said:
Take note that you should ask questions in the questions section and ROM discussions are generally frowned upon so do venture into the development section to learn more about them.
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OOPS!! I forgot the Q&A section totally. I would like to move this post or delete it but I don't see how I should do it. The Edit/delete button just drives me to the edit section and I don't see any way of deleting the post.
No worries, a mod will lock or move this thread eventually
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I recommend roms with Mackay kernel, they are often stable and durable in battery but less powerful than Devil kernel. By the way, no one has moved or deleted this post yet =))
latest official samsung firmware tend to be the fastest most secure and stable ... try it maybe [ROOTED / 3FILE] XWJWB#_XEEJW2_XWJW1 by stock+
somator said:
latest official samsung firmware tend to be the fastest most secure and stable ... try it maybe [ROOTED / 3FILE] XWJWB#_XEEJW2_XWJW1 by stock+
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Latest official firmware for this phone is it 4.1 or 4.2?
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epulrevo said:
Latest official firmware for this phone is it 4.1 or 4.2?
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that particular 2.3.6 (XWJWB_XEEJW2_XWJW1)

2 development forums?

Just wondering why we have 2 different development forums? Seems they both have similar content but I have to go from one to the other and I'm not sure there's any reason for having both? Anyone else think this is annoying?
We have 2 one for AOSP based Roms and one for touch wiz roms. The one for touchwiz is Roms that are based on the phones original firmware. The other are based on stock android.
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Read the stickies in each one. It explains it well.
killakarl said:
We have 2 one for AOSP based Roms and one for touch wiz roms. The one for touchwiz is Roms that are based on the phones original firmware. The other are based on stock android.
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Not true. Read the stickies. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257061
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Hmm now I feel dumb...been here forever and this is the first time I've seen those touchwiz and aosp separated in different forums. Thanks for letting me know!
killakarl said:
We have 2 one for AOSP based Roms and one for touch wiz roms. The one for touchwiz is Roms that are based on the phones original firmware. The other are based on stock android.
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NO this is very wrong! Read the sticky in Original development. Only ROMs created from ground up like CM and AOKP are original. Any clone or cherry picked ROM does not belong in Original Development.
kennyglass123 said:
NO this is very wrong! Read the sticky in Original development. Only ROMs created from ground up like CM and AOKP are original. Any clone or cherry picked ROM does not belong in Original Development.
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So what your saying is we have a second development forum for 2 roms. All other AOSP roms are clones of them aren't they?
cruise350 said:
So what your saying is we have a second development forum for 2 roms. All other AOSP roms are clones of them aren't they?
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Also for kernels, ROMs with custom kernels, ROMs built from the ground up. Definitey not for someone who just follows CM's instructions on how to build from their source and they change one thing. That is not original. The huge misconception that one is for TW makes no sense on Google devices...then nothing should go in Android Development? The Original Development section was created to reward developers and teams who have created or modified 100's of lines of code and put a lot of original work into their release.

What's the difference

Between z1 android development and z1 original android development?
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olokos said:
Between z1 android development and z1 original android development?
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Original android development is aimed at AOSP and AOKP Rom's like Cyanogen mod and paranoid android.
Android development is aimed at the way the company who made the phone intended it to be, ie: stock and custom based roms based around a stock base.
olokos said:
Between z1 android development and z1 original android development?
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Android Development : Roms Super Tweaked, Superior Kernels, Fast, Clean, you can fly.
Original Android Development : Modified Stock Roms, close to ORIGINAL but rooted and some tweaks.
I will try to remember, but what grinds my gears now is what the f PA is doing in the Android section?
Thanks for the answer guys.
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maybe he just posted in the wrong forum
dladz said:
Original android development is aimed at AOSP and AOKP Rom's like Cyanogen mod and paranoid android.
Android development is aimed at the way the company who made the phone intended it to be, ie: stock and custom based roms based around a stock base.
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Was , quite a few other ROM's crept into Android Development the other day (about 5) that should have been in the other section, and Paranoid Android ROM seemed to stay in the wrong place .
danw_oz said:
Was , quite a few other ROM's crept into Android Development the other day (about 5) that should have been in the other section, and Paranoid Android ROM seemed to stay in the wrong place .
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Exactly
Here's the real answer
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This is an automated response to indicate that the case surrounding your report has been closed. The acting moderator in charge of your case has marked the issue as resolved due to the following reason(s):
Not at this time as it is an untested, blind build and unofficial...so best if not in OD at this time.
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If you continue to have an issue, please re-report the post or simply reply to this PM.
XDA Moderation Team
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Can you explain me what's the difference to android development and original android development then?
From what I've heard and what other people here, at xda told me original development is a stock based roms section and android development is a place for AOSP roms. Could you shed some light on this?
Thanks.
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Absolutely not. If that was the case what would be the difference between Original and Android Development on Nexus devices? Here is the explanation and guidelines for Original Development
And in this case Paranoid Android itself would classify as Original Development with Halo and Pie included but it is still basically a CM clone. The other requirement would be that the OP needs to be able to support the build. In this case Oblikas does not even own the device and therefore cannot test or support it. Let me know if you have anymore questions...I will do my best to answer.
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dladz said:
Original android development is aimed at AOSP and AOKP Rom's like Cyanogen mod and paranoid android.
Android development is aimed at the way the company who made the phone intended it to be, ie: stock and custom based roms based around a stock base.
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Not exactly. There is what is quoted in the previous message and there has to be something original about it...not just compiled from AOSP or CM clones. Maintainers for ROMs that are considered Original such as CM and post official builds would get to post in OD. If there were no official version of CM and someone got it working with an unofficial version it can go in OD until the Official version comes along. Because he did something original by getting it working on a device that had no CM. Hope this helps.
kennyglass123 said:
Not exactly. There is what is quoted in the previous message and there has to be something original about it...not just compiled from AOSP or CM clones. Maintainers for ROMs that are considered Original such as CM and post official builds would get to post in OD. If there were no official version of CM and someone got it working with an unofficial version it can go in OD until the Official version comes along. Because he did something original by getting it working on a device that had no CM. Hope this helps.
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I'm not disagreeing with you here, that's just the way it's always seemed, plus the fact that the vast majority of rom's that have derived from CM and the like have always been in Original development, never seen a stock (as intended by the company who made it ie: HTC, Samsung, Sony) rom in there no matter how modified and vice versa, I can't say that i've ever seen paranoid android and the like - original or modified in Android development either.
At least that's my experience anyway, taking a look at the HTC sections will show you what i'm talking about, namely HTC One and EVO 3D.
dladz said:
I'm not disagreeing with you here, that's just the way it's always seemed, plus the fact that the vast majority of rom's that have derived from CM and the like have always been in Original development, never seen a stock (as intended by the company who made it ie: HTC, Samsung, Sony) rom in there no matter how modified and vice versa, I can't say that i've ever seen paranoid android and the like - original or modified in Android development either.
At least that's my experience anyway, taking a look at the HTC sections will show you what i'm talking about, namely HTC One and EVO 3D.
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You are correct. So far except for a mod, Xposed Framework, there is not anything thrown on a stock ROM that would be considered Original Development. However the first rooted stock ROM for a new device would be. Also the opposite of what you say is not true...CM clones do not belong in Original Development unless they bring something new and original to the table.
kennyglass123 said:
You are correct. So far except for a mod, Xposed Framework, there is not anything thrown on a stock ROM that would be considered Original Development. However the first rooted stock ROM for a new device would be. Also the opposite of what you say is not true...CM clones do not belong in Original Development unless they bring something new and original to the table.
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Yea I agree with that m8, i'm not saying where any of them belong, i'm just saying that that appears to be the way of it.
As intended roms in android development and non as intended roms in original, i'm not saying they're the rules, just that it seems that way, and as I said, looking over other forums on XDA it certainly tells a tale.

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