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It's the latest paid app for $.99.
Anybody know where this app is donating to? Is it a fake charity?
Looked like some suckers actually fell for it.
I'm assuming that it's just some random guy who's in college who needs money and is saying that it's donating to help children in college (in other words, himself).
Also, just because there are comments doesn't mean that people bought it. You're forgetting that Google allows users to refund their apps within 24 hours. This is especially handy when you want to try out an expensive app.
He/She states in the app description that you are donating to android developers (i.e. him/her)
I cant buy any programs at all.
Its many progs I would like to pay for the full version off.
Why cant I do this?
When will this be available in Norway?
Currently Norway is not a supported region for paid apps (see http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138294 ).
Try the beta version of the market enabler ( http://code.google.com/p/market-enabler/ ) which I believe allows you to select which region you want to "appear" to be in so you can access the apps from that region.
Regards,
Dave
This is bull**** by google.
I have to have a rooted phone to do that, and I want to wait for a easy way to root my phone. This I haven't found.
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This is bull**** by google.
I have to have a rooted phone to do that, and I want to wait for a easy way to root my phone. This I haven't found.
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rooting your phone is kinda easy... but i admit it's a pain in the ass to have to mod it just for one or two apps
Pissing me off to.
syklitengutt said:
I cant buy any programs at all.
Its many progs I would like to pay for the full version off.
Why cant I do this?
When will this be available in Norway?
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I live up in Troms, Norway and I am a bit miffed at the ristrictions imposed on the market place too. I'm searching for a workaround and will post any easy solutions.
Hello to the Hero group too. I have come over from the Athena forum. I'm a WM6.5 traitor.
Hopefulle Google will change the way they support norwegians in the marked. It`s a shame!
To be fair, I believe that it is technically simple, but legally complicated to offer up something like the market in a new territory.
Essentially, Google is acting as a middle-man for all the application developers, who are selling you their apps. Depending on where they are physically located, there are all sorts of issues that may need to be taken into consideration (e.g. VAT, tax, payment processing etc) before they can open up the paid apps market to a new territory.
Not really much help to those of you in unsupported regions, and I do believe that a company the size of Google (and with resources to match!) should be able to do this much quicker!
Regards,
Dave
Have you been to Norway?
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To be fair, I believe that it is technically simple, but legally complicated to offer up something like the market in a new territory.
Essentially, Google is acting as a middle-man for all the application developers, who are selling you their apps. Depending on where they are physically located, there are all sorts of issues that may need to be taken into consideration (e.g. VAT, tax, payment processing etc) before they can open up the paid apps market to a new territory.
Not really much help to those of you in unsupported regions, and I do believe that a company the size of Google (and with resources to match!) should be able to do this much quicker!
Regards,
Dave
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It's not legalities that are the problem here but bureaucracy and people sat on their arse drinking coffee and eating cake all day at work. It takes so damn long to get anything done in Norway. Take a look at the XBox 360 update - streaming movies and tv available but switched off in order to let a Norwegian company take control of the content. (But the contracts, and therefore the service, were not ready because everyone was on summer holiday!)
Don't hold your breath for a paid app Marketplace here until at least end of the year.
This is exactly the sort of area where the EU should step up to the plate to harmonize the laws across individual member states. I''m not talking about taxation, or tax rates, but it should be much easier to do business with the EU as a "bloc". Trouble is the bureaucrats seem to spend more time thinking up legislation to complicate and hinder, rather than make things simpler and easier for the people they represent!
Regards,
Dave
Ermmmm.
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This is exactly the sort of area where the EU should step up to the plate to harmonize the laws across individual member states. I''m not talking about taxation, or tax rates, but it should be much easier to do business with the EU as a "bloc". Trouble is the bureaucrats seem to spend more time thinking up legislation to complicate and hinder, rather than make things simpler and easier for the people they represent!
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Dave
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Norway's not in the EU and that's it's main problem.
Well, that comes as a surprise to me! I just assumed that it was!
Regards,
Dave
I understand your frustration very well, My country is in European region and IN the EU community and we can't buy payed apps on marketplace either. Our mobile providers have to make deals with google before they can enable it.
Typical Belgium, always steps behind.
These new smartphones and app markets are what makes these new generation phones appealing.
Hope it wont take to long, otherwise people start pirating soft like on WM.
at least you guys in the EU can see the light at the end of the tunnel, im in the middle east and know for a fact that ill never be able to buy an app for my phone ,how come Apple managed to do it with the Iphone ???
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at least you guys in the EU can see the light at the end of the tunnel, im in the middle east and know for a fact that ill never be able to buy an app for my phone ,how come Apple managed to do it with the Iphone ???
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so the light doesn't shine here in Luxembourg, no way to buy an app in the android store, just the free ones. Better than nothing
Rooted my phone. Now buying what I want when I want.
The same here , I'm from Saudi Arabia and I can't buy any app , I had the iphone before and I was able to buy anything also the had Arabic support !! even though apple is known for bad Arabic support , so google ; shame on you !!!!
androidplayground (link removed to comply with forum rules, google and take the first result, it's the ****hole in question)
This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
They do have a contact page, why not let them know how much you appreciate your hard work being stolen?
Looks pretty shady anyway, I'd much rather use the Android Market.
I agree. Charging people do get software you stole is worse than stealing it in the first place IMO.
I feel like I just took a trip back to a 1997 Geocities website
this is pretty much a site that leads to warez and shouldnt be posted. i am just saying.
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this is pretty much a site that leads to warez and shouldnt be posted. i am just saying.
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And changed.
It's being hosted by hostedsolutions, their contact info is here:
http://www.hostedsolutions.com/contact/
I'm sure they'd like to know what's on their servers.
Wow that's ballsy.
They even link back to the xda forums for formatting and rooting info.
And Dev's they are taking paypal payments. File a complaint with Paypal too.
They used a privacy company to hide who they are.
And then they used Tucows address as their domain registration address?
The whois phone number rings to a looped recording telling you to go to the privacy companies website. Which does not seem to work.
To bad these A$$munchs didn't also make the stupid Android7 Flash Player. We could have killed 2 birds with one stone.
If the site ever starts 'offering' SetCPU, I will do whatever is in my legal power to take them down. I can't do anything about those Chinese or Russian websites, but if it's hosted in the USA, they're going down.
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This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
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Piracy is piracy. Don't think somehow a for-free piracy distribution site is any more justified than a paid one. If anything, for-free distribution sites hurt developers more than paid sites: which one do you think attracts more pirates? (Note: Don't somehow come to the twisted conclusion that I support piracy of any kind; I don't.)
The difference between the two jashsu is that there is a large contingent of the "try before you buy" type of pirates out there. They'll get a warez version of an app, and if they like it, they'll often uninstall it and pay for the market version. However, if they pay for it through a third party website, the original developer never sees that profit.
Thats not to say I support piracy, because I dont. I fully believe that people should be compensated for hard work. I'm more than willing to pay for an app up front, and if it sucks, the dev will find out by reading the refund notice when i uninstall it within 24 hours.
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The difference between the two jashsu is that there is a large contingent of the "try before you buy" type of pirates out there.
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Please show me some numbers. To get the ball rolling, i'll post a link.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...-more-serious-than-first-though-on-iphone.ars
"The numbers that developers might find most interesting are the ones that show "conversion rates" from "lite" versions to full. Only one out of every 14 average users tends to purchase the paid version of an app after using the lite version, which is just under 7.5 percent. For pirates, the conversion rate is less than half a percent, or one out of every 233."
I download apps. If I like 'em, I pay for them. I'll usually go for a "lite" version if one exists. Anyway, rather than have this thread derailed into a debate about piracy, can we get back to the topic at hand?
I've notified the host, lets see if that does anything.
Sigh. Nothing like a little bit of piracy to set a forum on fire. Doesn't matter what forum you're visiting, could be a forum for food - and the first mention of piracy is bound to bring up what I like to call the forum nazis. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and no amount of gestapo trolling will change that. I find it interesting that people break various laws of various countries / cities / states daily and of course, it's overlooked. Someone makes mention of piracy and all of a sudden you've got the ePolice regime banging on your every post as if it were going to change something. What's my point? None, really. (But there again, there's also no point in bashing piracy, it's not going to make it any less existent.)
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Someone makes mention of piracy and all of a sudden you've got the ePolice regime banging on your every post as if it were going to change something.
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I hope you don't think that I assumed my post would change ThrashWolf's perception on piracy. I was merely pointing out how humorously sad this statement is:
This actually disgusts me.
I won't lie, I'm pro-piracy, and don't mind sites that host apps for free download, but profiting off someone else's work is frankly, sickening.
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I mean.. maybe i'm the only one who finds that just a bit hypocritical? I would have been completely okay if he/she just said "hey dudes, theres a paid piracy site, lets get it shut down" or "I like piracy". But to go and say "I am a pirate, but these other pirates disgust me".. idk.. maybe it's just me, but that's just ridiculous.
Then again what do I know?
Also they spam the android market with there links so make sure if you see it report it as spam.
Doesn't anyone pay for their apps anymore ...
I'll admit it, I pirate apps too, but only to either try it or if I have no other way to even purchase the application.
The thing is, being a high-schooler, I have a cheap, prepaid credit card that only allows transactions in USD. Many apps aren't available in the Market in currency other than Euros or Pounds so I have no other choice to use the apps than to pirate them.
This kind of behavior where people are selling pirated copies instead of just making it available for people who otherwise can't even buy them is really annoying though... anybody thought of a way to get them shut down?
I'm honestly debating to pay for a membership and email every dev that has an app on their. The other known site I've already found 6 apps from me on their and they were removed. But since this place charges just to get a peak I'm very tempted to pay and make sure every company knows and can write C&D's to them and the host.
Piracy is always going to be an issue. Always. I have pirated apps before, usually to test out an app update I have already downloaded and refunded from the marketplace. If the update fixes things I had issues with, I will buy it. If not, then I delete it. I have bought and kept 21 apps from the marketplace so far. I believe my use of pirated apps is fair.
I am not trying to justify piracy, but merely stating it is a great tool for me. I am aware that a lot of people pirate apps just so they don't have to pay for them. I believe that is wrong. However when comparing those who distribute an app for free to those that charge for an app that is not theirs, I believe that the one who distributes for free is the lesser of the two evils. The one who distributes for free is going to reach out to more of the potential market yes, but the scumbags who actually charge for apps that someone worked hard on are the true thieves IMO. They affect a lesser share of the potential market, but keep in mind their "share" is willing to make a purchase in the first place, while the freeloaders "share" is questionable in that department.
Just my 2 cents.
Maybe it is a good idea to make a petition of some kind, to send to google and maybe they will clear things up. With clearing things up I mean the problems with the already ordered Nexus 4's and the zero info about restocking. Share your thoughts here :victory:
In the UK thread "sirwilliams" already sums up a good list! Credits to him for that!
"* an acknowledgement that this has been wrong in so many ways
* an explanation as to why orders had not been shipped in the correct order
* an apology for the above
* details of how they plan to make it up to the customers whose trust in them has been left in tatters
* a commitment that orders will in future be processed and shipped to customers on a first-come, first-served basis
* clear accountability for the above - so that if it is clear this commitment has not been kept, we know exactly who to contact to provide a further explanation
* a significant change in their customer support "service" - CSRs in the country where the order was placed, a transparent "chain-of-command" so that problems can be escalated to people who will have the relevant information at their disposal
* an overhaul of the Play store, so that it does not tell misleading information, does not show duplicated orders, but instead shows more details information of the status of their order.
* acknowledgement that their CSRs have been telling untruths - an explanation as to why this is the case, and an apology.
* acknowledgement, apologies and an explanation for the customers who have waited months for their order only for Google to cancel it and then blame them
* accuracy in their documentation, ie. the correct amount which will be placed as an authorisation in advance of charges being applied rather than $1, using the word "estimate" on pages before an order is placed if that is what the quoted time is.
* a clear complaints procedure, allowing us to get in touch with people whose job is to provide an actual explanation and resolution for problems"
Signed
Seconded!
I just want to know when they will restock
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That's not bad but I think two things should be highlighted out of all those points:
1. Future orders will be delivered on schedule .
2. Future orders will be handled more professionally, keeping customers in the loop at all times and serving fifo order system.
Otherwise I'll be more reserved when ordering from them again. It was a painful 7-8 weeks for us! :banghead:
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That's not bad but I think two things should be highlighted out of all those points:
1. Future orders will be delivered on schedule .
2. Future orders will be handled more professionally, keeping customers in the loop at all times and serving fifo order system.
Otherwise I'll be more reserved when ordering from them again. It was a painful 7-8 weeks for us! :banghead:
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Many are still waiting for restock
Hi guys, looks like it might just about be ready!
Just in case you didn't know, after the first batch of Nexus 4s went missing I created the "Where's my Nexus 4 - Register your Complaint" site to get Google's attention, it appeared to work and opened up a dialogue with us.
We promised we would track their progress and now mkII of the site is up and running. It has nothing to do with Google, but should allow us to track the new orders, and provide a unified voice if there are problems.
If you manage to place an order for a new Nexus 4 device, please think about signing up - www.axiopo.com
If you have any questions, get in touch through the site.
Thanks
Andy
Taiwan
I take any opportunity like this where there may be direct Google consumer feedback to request they resume paid apps in the Play store in Taiwan. The government, doing it's job to protect consumers, requires a 7 day return policy for all goods purchased in Taiwan. This means software too. When this policy was enforced well over a year ago, Apple changed it's policy quickly to allow the mandated 7 day refunds. Google has not restored paid apps here. If Apple was able to do it I see no reason why Google can't. Whenever I need to install a paid app I contact the dev and highlight this to them, they are usually unaware of this,a dn of course unhappy, and say they send feedback to Google about this. Some have mentioned the 7 day policy may allow users of some games to play the game to completion, delete/"return" it, and get a refund. For those inclined to cheat this is of course safer and easier than installing cracked .apk's, but it may not be higher or lower here than anywhere else. I don't know how the payment system works, so I don't know if there is penalty to devs for "returns", but I'm betting that the impact on a dev for returns would be somewhere between barely noticeable and non-existent. However, what is unquestionably a measurable cost to devs is the loss of revenue from not allowing 24,000,000 users in an affluent, and extremely wired country (home notably to Asus, Acer, and HTC) to not buy apps at all! Of course this also means we can't buy Nexus devices as well. If possible, could this serious grievance please also be addressed in your petition?
I agree with everything here. Mine came alot sooner than planned but I consider myself lucky I was even able to get in line for one. The whole thing was just a big mess and its ridiculous that they've been sold out for 2 months.
Also they need to be more readily available in general. Sell them unlocked in retail stores. Sell them on contract for every carrier. Everyone should have the opportunity to own a real google phone imo
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It was a mess, and a response and apology from Google is needed.
I am nearing the finishing and release phase of an app I've been working on and so I was going through creating a Merchant Account since it will be a paid app. There were two things that stopped me, however. One was the website which I have created and will be uploading in a bit.
The thing that caused me to pause creating the Merchant Account was the "Legal Business information" section. Do I need to be aware of anything here, legal-wise? I mean, I'm just a software developer for my 9-5 and work on this Android app in my spare time. Do I need to have anything setup, legally (I dunno, an LLC? Or whatever)? Can I just use my full name for the "Business Name?"
Sorry if it's a dumb question but I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I jump into it. Thanks for any help, I appreciate it guys.
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I am nearing the finishing and release phase of an app I've been working on and so I was going through creating a Merchant Account since it will be a paid app. There were two things that stopped me, however. One was the website which I have created and will be uploading in a bit.
The thing that caused me to pause creating the Merchant Account was the "Legal Business information" section. Do I need to be aware of anything here, legal-wise? I mean, I'm just a software developer for my 9-5 and work on this Android app in my spare time. Do I need to have anything setup, legally (I dunno, an LLC? Or whatever)? Can I just use my full name for the "Business Name?"
Sorry if it's a dumb question but I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I jump into it. Thanks for any help, I appreciate it guys.
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From what i know you do not need to be a business in order to submit app's to the play store and can use your name as the developer/business name
Ma$etas said:
From what i know you do not need to be a business in order to submit app's to the play store and can use your name as the developer/business name
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Thanks for the reply. Last night after posting this I looked at the "Create Merchant Account" form and I didn't see anything to do with tax, either there or the other places I looked in the Developer Console. I swear I had saw something to do with tax when I first looked at the process but maybe I'm getting confused with something else I've read.
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Thanks for the reply. Last night after posting this I looked at the "Create Merchant Account" form and I didn't see anything to do with tax, either there or the other places I looked in the Developer Console. I swear I had saw something to do with tax when I first looked at the process but maybe I'm getting confused with something else I've read.
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NO problem.. Good luck with your app.
Im currently trying to learn how to create/write code . I have some ideas for some apps that i think would be good. Which is why i looked up the info on how to submit apps to the playstore.
clamum said:
Thanks for the reply. Last night after posting this I looked at the "Create Merchant Account" form and I didn't see anything to do with tax, either there or the other places I looked in the Developer Console. I swear I had saw something to do with tax when I first looked at the process but maybe I'm getting confused with something else I've read.
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Just like to add something here.
Google in general takes a "it's up to you" approach when it comes to taxes. That is, you are supposed to determine whether anything is taxable, and remit them by yourself if it is.
I heard some countries have a sales tax/VAT that's applicable even you don't have any business physically located in that country. But I haven't heard of any dev having trouble with this and so this is kind of in a grey area.
The good news is that for EU countries and Brazil (they DO have the above-stated VAT), Google will pay it for you. The bad news is that the tax will be deducted from your income. I usually set the price for EU and Brazil higher to compensate for this.
Also, you may also need to pay income tax and/or state tax etc. I don't live in the US so I don't know much about this.
It'd be better if you can find a decent tax advisor for this. But I know it's difficult.
Good luck and happy publishing on Google Play
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Just like to add something here.
Google in general takes a "it's up to you" approach when it comes to taxes. That is, you are supposed to determine whether anything is taxable, and remit them by yourself if it is.
I heard some countries have a sales tax/VAT that's applicable even you don't have any business physically located in that country. But I haven't heard of any dev having trouble with this and so this is kind of in a grey area.
The good news is that for EU countries and Brazil (they DO have the above-stated VAT), Google will pay it for you. The bad news is that the tax will be deducted from your income. I usually set the price for EU and Brazil higher to compensate for this.
Also, you may also need to pay income tax and/or state tax etc. I don't live in the US so I don't know much about this.
It'd be better if you can find a decent tax advisor for this. But I know it's difficult.
Good luck and happy publishing on Google Play
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Hmmm. Do you think a tax advisor would understand or have sufficient knowledge about mobile apps on the Google Play store to give advice?
So it sounds like for EU countries and Brazil I'd want to do the same thing (raise price a bit for the app). I doubt many people are even going to download this thing but I like to know what I'm getting into before I just jump into something. Thanks for your help.
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Hmmm. Do you think a tax advisor would understand or have sufficient knowledge about mobile apps on the Google Play store to give advice?
So it sounds like for EU countries and Brazil I'd want to do the same thing (raise price a bit for the app). I doubt many people are even going to download this thing but I like to know what I'm getting into before I just jump into something. Thanks for your help.
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Well this is Google's official recommendation.
But I don't really know if a tax advisor will help, because I jumped in before finding one.