Now that the Moto X is getting a fact, and more and more is known about specs and prizes (http://www.thefullsignal.com/motoro...rola-x-moto-x-specs-price-release-date-rumors) I wonder:
1, will Moto give us also the 4.3 update (and if yes, when?)?
2, if no 4.3 update for the Razr-i: do you think it is worth to trade our beloved Razr i for a Moto X; pretty cheap, with the newest Android version, fancy sensors -but with a lower clock (benchmark?) speed than the Razr i?
Any ideas/ feelings about?
I think there will be no 4.3 for razr i. And about Moto X - I will wait until it´s available and well tested. I will not give up the advantages of my razr i like excellent signal reception and long standby. If the Moto X can do better (or at least equal), I will think again.
bmszabo said:
Now that the Moto X is getting a fact, and more and more is known about specs and prizes (http://www.thefullsignal.com/motoro...rola-x-moto-x-specs-price-release-date-rumors) I wonder:
1, will Moto give us also the 4.3 update (and if yes, when?)?
2, if no 4.3 update for the Razr-i: do you think it is worth to trade our beloved Razr i for a Moto X; pretty cheap, with the newest Android version, fancy sensors -but with a lower clock (benchmark?) speed than the Razr i?
Any ideas/ feelings about?
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my motorola experience with updates is bad (i was a defy owner and only thanks cyanogenmod and quarx (the dev) i could realize updates to jb4.1 (cm10)).
mabe motorola will change this behaviour now because owned by google, but i don't believe it. i believe the razr i hardware can run jb4.3 and maybe even the future android 5, but my motorola experience makes me fear, that we will never see those updates.
Well I hope at the time when 4.3 is released. cyanogenmod will hopefully be available for the razr i :fingers-crossed:
+1
Any real custom rom would be great.
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it does not depend on 4.3 but on porting CM to Intel-cpu.
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ICuaI said:
it does not depend on 4.3 but on porting CM to Intel-cpu.
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Which brings up the next question :
Would the multi-core CPU of the Moto X beat our Medfield CPU in terms of speed, snappiness? As for me: fastest phone (Iphone/android) I ever had!
Why wouldn't they? Intel's got libs ready, Motorola is about to come back to life and this phone is not even a year old... It should be updated, and if it doesn't, they should at least release the libs so cm can do it. Now Motorola is owned by Google, things should change
If not 4.3 i'd be happy with 4.2
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....and Droid 3 is missing. Could still be coming down the pipeline, but it looks like we are out of luck for the first wave (not that surprising).
http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2012/03/bl2012-03-06.html
I know I have forwarded this theory before - but at first glance, the list does only have devices (among all manufacturers) that are well over 512MB of RAM - I think Dinc2 is the lowest at 768MB. I may be wrong - don't have all specs memorized.
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I know I have forwarded this theory before - but at first glance, the list does only have devices (among all manufacturers) that are well over 512MB of RAM - I think Dinc2 is the lowest at 768MB. I may be wrong - don't have all specs memorized.
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It's because the people at motorola that make these decisions don't even know what RAM is and haven't even heard of kernel or XDA-forums.
They think... Hm..1024 is more than 512.. lets not give 512 mb phones ICS.
If they'd at least unlock the damn bootloaders so people like hashcode can do it for them ffs
Part of me wants to never buy another motorola device, but this keyboard is just too nice. Motorola does a good job on the hardware but between the bloatware and the locked bootloader the software part can be disappointing. So we have an os released less than 6 months after our device was released and motorola basically says screw you. Verizon is just the messenger here.
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Some of those phones are almost the same hardware as the droid 3 so I'm hoping that those vzw roms can at least be reverse engineered to figure out what's still missing in the cm9 alpha, like the camera.
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I want the hardware acceleration front facing camera and face unlock.... then I will jump ship from stock on my xt860.
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Reporting the full Motorola update schedule site: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
interesting that bionic and d4 are still listed as evaluating. But even in best case, that droid 3 is only left out of the ics fun for the first rollout (vzw does say more updates are coming, and droid 2 did get updates almost 2 years after release), it looks like it will be a while - even some brand new devices that were in the vzw press release are scheduled for q3...
spunker88 said:
Part of me wants to never buy another motorola device
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Our only hope is the Google takeover of Moto will change their bootloader policy. This then, I can't bring myself to buy another Moto phone.
By the time it comes to the Droid 3, it will be upgrade time...
Droid 3 is one of the best phones with android and qwerty and motorola dont plan to update to ICS?? Motorola in software decisions sucks!!! They never listened to the users
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Some of those phones are almost the same hardware as the droid 3 so I'm hoping that those vzw roms can at least be reverse engineered to figure out what's still missing in the cm9 alpha, like the camera.
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The big constraint is going to be the locked bootloader.
It don't mean that droid 3 will never has ICS... just it not going to be on this first group... I'm sure in a couple of months we will see it on the list.
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It don't mean that droid 3 will never has ICS... just it not going to be on this first group... I'm sure in a couple of months we will see it on the list.
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Well if they wait much longer:
A) people have upgraded to a newer phone
B) all people who actually care about having ICS rather than gingerbread already use hashcode's ICS
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Well if they wait much longer:
A) people have upgraded to a newer phone
B) all people who actually care about having ICS rather than gingerbread already use hashcode's ICS
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I think that in Q1 of 2013 we might have an oficial ICS support, i don't believe sonner than that...
First it's motorola who decide, if our droid 3 can have ICS, then VZW if it will have.
Motorola should still be evaluating if ICS will going to run fine on our Droid 3 and if it's they will update his "ICS Update Schedule" and VZW his own.
Cya
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I think that in Q1 of 2013 we will have an oficial ICS support, i don't believe sonner than that...
First it's motorola who decide, if our droid 3 can have ICS, then VZW if it will have.
Motorola should still be evaluating if ICS will going to run fine on our Droid 3 and if it's they will update his "ICS Update Schedule" and VZW his own.
Cya
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Well I don't think it'll take hashcode 'nd crew 1 year to fix hw codecs/video recording and some bug fixes
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Well I don't think it'll take hashcode 'nd crew 1 year to fix hw codecs/video recording and some bug fixes
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Neither myself, I just talking about an Oficial ICS support by Motorola...so cheers to Hashcode!
A question to the society (any inside info?) : do you think there is a chance that our Razr i gets the Moto developed, stock 4.3?
On paper, it would fit within the magic 18 month Android dev horizon.
Any ideas on this?
bmszabo said:
A question to the society (any inside info?) : do you think there is a chance that our Razr i gets the Moto developed, stock 4.3?
On paper, it would fit within the magic 18 month Android dev horizon.
Any ideas on this?
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I've searched and found nothing about Razr i being updated to android 4.3, but I think it will. There's no excuses to not update our smartphone.
lol, i would be happy if they give us at least JB 4.2.2
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lol, i would be happy if they give us at least JB 4.2.2
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Intel has finished porting 4.2 to x86 this year. It's just a matter of Motorola to start to work with. There's planty of chance that Moto will update our device to 4.2. 4.3 it's hard to say,but if you see any news about intel porting 4.3, it's a hope.
4.2 is officially on Motorola's plans, and the last released schedule mentions it coming by October. Let's see if they can do it as promised.
Hey guys,
does anyone have any infos if there will be an update to JB 4.2.2?
THX
When no official info over a device's official update is available, one may estimate it (whether the update will be coming out sometime) this way:
From the manufacturer's point of view, one may estimate how much is it worth it to invest on an update for a specific device with the following formula for approximation, in a scale from 0 to 100 or a percentage if you may:
{[(Developer Salary per Hour)*(Number of developers in update team)*(Number of effective hours needed to roll update, including testing and debugging) / (number of devices for the specific model divided by your overall number of current devices in the market)]^-1}/(.000001)
So assuming for instance that:
Developer Salary per Hour = $10
Number of developers in update team = 5
Number of effective hours needed to roll update = 240
number of devices for the specific model divided by your overall number of current devices in the market = .1 , in the case of the XT890 (this represents pretty much the market share of the particular product)
We would have:
((10*5*240 /.1)^-1)/.000001 = 8.33333333333
Thats 8.33 out of 100!
Now a lot of these numbers are a "guesstimation" but I think they should be close to the real thing, and if I was Motorola and saw this number I would most definitely not invest in rolling out yet another update.
Sad, huh?
I don't think Moto will waste time and money updating to 4.2. JB 4.3 is arround the corner.
What's the difference between 4.1 and 4.2 ? Photosphere ? It's not worth all the hard work.
Do you remember RAZR D1 and D3 launched in Brazil ? It came with JB 4.1 with the promisse to be updated to the next version of Android, but Motorola hasn't specified WHICH version of Android and there's no date to be launched. All RAZR devices are now on JB.
Looking this way : They'll update straight to 4.3 and launch new RAZR devices (the support for the current RAZR generation will be over), or, wait until Key Lime Pie in the end of 2013.
Just a matter of information, Intel has already ported 4.2 to x86 in the beginning of this year.
As long time Moto User i can tell you, that Moto is extremely slow, when it comes to Updates. We waitet for ICS on the XT910 almost one year (atleast for the official Release)
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HSD-Pilot said:
As long time Moto User i can tell you, that Moto is extremely slow, when it comes to Updates. We waitet for ICS on the XT910 almost one year (atleast for the official Release)
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Initially, yeah. But the 4.1 update didn't take as long for the XT910. In fact, the XT910 had 4.1 before some HTC models got it (and some populaur HTC models still don't have 4.1 or 4.2, including the One). So that's not slow at all. I agree, they are still lagging behind but they're not as slow anymore as they used to be. They're improving.
Was just searching the net for past 2 days.... as soon as android 5.1 was released, there is not even a single news/ Rumors about moto x and android 5.1, So i figured
Lets Start a new thread, and something or the other is bound to come up!, got my android L update for MOTO X european version from right here so i figured lets start here.
if anyone has any information let us hear it
from what i found, there's some news on moto g running android 5.1, moto x 2013 being considered.
does that mean, we have lost the top priority :fingers-crossed:
i seem so eager coz this 5.1 is REALLY stable, i have got a nexus 6, just updated it... its smoother, some pesky bugs before, nothing now.
~~~~my moto x is suffering from bluetooth audio stuttering , among other bugs.
Did you see any change in camera quality on your Nexus6?
I mean do you think the new 5.1 will make the MotoX able to shoot in RAW and Camera-2 API will now be supported? Because that is the biggest thing which needs improvement in MotoX, and performance boost will be a boon, rest it seems stable on 5.0 as well.
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Did you see any change in camera quality on your Nexus6?
I mean do you think the new 5.1 will make the MotoX able to shoot in RAW and Camera-2 API will now be supported? Because that is the biggest thing which needs improvement in MotoX, and performance boost will be a boon, rest it seems stable on 5.0 as well.
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Interesting, i can check it out , if someone can guide me how to .
P.s. the camera sensor itself is older version so don't expect it to be too good, samsung, oneplus one , oppo , nexus 6 all high end devices in latter 2014 use IMX 214 or IMX 240.. which are both 2014 released sensors ... On the other hand MOTO X uses IMX 135, which is released on JANUARY 2013, 2 years old now, Motorola has a reputation for increasing their, profits by using atleast one old part in their fabulous devices (HINT: moto 360, ti processor is sooo old, its parent company stopped supporting it and it drains battery too, could have easily used snapdragon400 but.... moto)
Moto X Pure Edition ( XT1095)
Well I'm searching daily for Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update but I'm not able to find anything. I had Nexus 6 I sold one week before 5.1 update, but I've tried it on my brothers Nexus 5 and its was really fast, especially the dialer app feels snappy now(but that was factory reset so not confident about that yet)..
Would love to hear more about Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update
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Well I'm searching daily for Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update but I'm not able to find anything. I had Nexus 6 I sold one week before 5.1 update, but I've tried it on my brothers Nexus 5 and its was really fast, especially the dialer app feels snappy now(but that was factory reset so not confident about that yet)..
Would love to hear more about Moto X 2014 android 5.1 update
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Motorola contacted people about a week ago about participating in a soak test for the Pure Edition. So far the update hasn't rolled out to anyone.
See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/xt1095-pure-edition-5-0-5-0-2-t3037580
Just leaving this message here, if anyone stumbles upon this question....
how to update XT1092 to android 5.1
as now android 5.1 is released for XT1095, and in future too XT1095 will be the first to receive any updates.... this is what my plan is.
I am Converting My XT1092 to XT1095 and then flashing the modem (google it).
TADA! thats it, that simple.
5.1 hasn't been released for any Moto X yet
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Just leaving this message here, if anyone stumbles upon this question....
how to update XT1092 to android 5.1
as now android 5.1 is released for XT1095, and in future too XT1095 will be the first to receive any updates.... this is what my plan is.
I am Converting My XT1092 to XT1095 and then flashing the modem (google it).
TADA! thats it, that simple.
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chrisrozon said:
5.1 hasn't been released for any Moto X yet
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As @chrisrozon says, there is no oficial release out yet of 5.1 for any victara (xt1095, xt1097, xt1092, etc). What is "out there" is a leaked soak test OTA. It's working but clearly unfinished; it has some serious battery draining wakelocks for some people.
Anyway, as soon as 5.1 is officially released (or after a few days if you're cautious), most people with non pure versions will be able to flash it and use it without reflashing original modem, since the new baseband of the xt1095 has been modified to work internationally. At least in latinamerica many of us could use the 5.1 soak with no baseband modification.
So if you're planning to convert your moto x to pure edition, i advice to do it once the 5.1 official release is out.
Cheers!
Manuel.
I want to know whether moto x 2013 will get offical android 6.0 update or not bcause most of the websites doesnt include moto x 1st gen in the list of devices expected to get android 6.0
I think many would tell you it barely got 5.0 and likely won't get 5.1
VZW still on 4.4.4.
So basically very little chance.
Most likely the only official way to get 6.0 would be through Cyanogen. It's gotten old and carriers are already showing signs of cutting out support. But hey I see no reason why the hardware can't support it.
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bushako said:
Most likely the only official way to get 6.0 would be through Cyanogen. It's gotten old and carriers are already showing signs of cutting out support. But hey I see no reason why the hardware can't support it.
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Cyanogen isn't official...
In other news, I highly doubt Motorola/Lenovo will go to 6.0. They had to do all the hardware programming to make Lollipop work, and with the phone now 2 generations behind the latest, they probably won't devote any further resources to it unless there is another highly critical security update needed.
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**** no.
imnuts said:
Cyanogen isn't official...
In other news, I highly doubt Motorola/Lenovo will go to 6.0. They had to do all the hardware programming to make Lollipop work, and with the phone now 2 generations behind the latest, they probably won't devote any further resources to it unless there is another highly critical security update needed.
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For cyanogenmod users such as myself it is considered official interms of constant support and latest updates.
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For cyanogenmod users such as myself it is considered official interms of constant support and latest updates.
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Maybe it is official in the eyes of the CM team since there is a maintainer, but it is not an official update. Call up any carrier and tell them you have official CyanogenMod install on your phone and see what they tell you.
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Maybe it is official in the eyes of the CM team since there is a maintainer, but it is not an official update. Call up any carrier and tell them you have official CyanogenMod install on your phone and see what they tell you.
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Yes obviously it isn't the official update from Moto, I was only referring it to be official with regards to CM users which in my case is good enough regardless of whether Moto releases their own updates.
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Battery drain issue fix
Will they provide any update to fix the battery drain bug occured after the offical android 5.1 ???????????
Actually there is quite a big chance that this phone will get 6.0 at some point, may come very fast or xtra slow as it happened with lp, but since MM is essentially the same crap as LP, it probably won't take them that long.
It's too early to tell, but I don't think the Moto X will have a chance