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Droid 4 will get Jelly Bean OFFICIAL

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Not that most people here are really bothered since you use the custom ROMs, but now this means there will be an official Jelly Bean template to make a sweet CM JB ROM off of.

Hopefully they won't cancel the upgrade.
Do you think we will get 4.1 after 4.2 is released?
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Prob 4.1
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I don't trust moto.

olegfusion said:
I don't trust moto.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.

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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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I ordered already other device, not sure if I'll 100% move to it, but I plan to get rid of moto after that happened with my previous device motorola photon. I couldn't wait more and decided to try droid 4. After this politics I plan to go out of moto once I'll find good device. Hope, that found already.

I'm posting this from a D4 on Jellybeans but I'm still glad to hear this. I think it will go a long way towards making people feel they can trust Motorola again, which as we can see from a few other posts here many people do not.
The real question in my mind is, what will come first, the DROID 5 or the official JB upgrade? What I want to see are updates the drop shortly after AOSP does, not a year later...
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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maddeath said:
Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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At this point I would be happy with that. 4.3 in screen + S4 (AKA the Photon Q)= fine with me.

The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013

I wonder if the old cheesecake method would work if Motorola does start working on official Jellybean updates.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly

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The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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I'd ditch moto in a heartbeat if there was another phone with a physical keyboard. Too bad there'll never be a nexus with a keyboard.

AreEvenSackingMySack said:
I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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I don't mean to change the subject but which ROM are you using? The cyanogen 10 has no camera, Bluetooth issues, and crashes (not that I'm complaining, I'm grateful to even have it), but I thought that was pretty much the situation for all of them at the moment?

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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
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where did you read that?

I'd be more than satisfied to get 4.1 in Q1 of next year.

ovelayer said:
where did you read that?
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It's been around for a while at http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...2-2-key-lime-pie-upgrade-timeline-razr-x.html
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Steve.

Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys

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Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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I'm pretty sure this article was labeled as untrue rumor. Android 4.2.2 won't be a the next codename of android. I'm pretty sure we will be getting JB 4.1 since that's what Moto promised to us earlier this year. Honestly, I don't think any devices with less than 2GB will get Android 4.2 other than stock Android devices.
It's been a good run the the D4, I'm pretty happy with CM10 on here right now, much less bloated! I just miss the power off animation (CRT)...
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4.3 delayed?

I know there was a system dump of 4.3 on t Mobile, but it was said to still be in development. Some people were thinking the moto x would get faster updates being so close to stock android. However at this point we're getting close to when the heavily customized galaxy s4 is *supposed* to get its update.
Could the major camera firmware update have delayed them on 4.3? Or are we looking at another phone that will still be several months delayed getting android updates?

From what I've seen there were 3? leaks of 4.3 engineering builds so far to date for the Moto X. In addition to the standard 4.3 features, they seem to also be updating Touchless Controls, Active Display and the Camera App. Now I saw that 4.3.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 7 LTE and I'm sure we will see it released to AOSP "soon" with a list of changes as well as 4.3.1 updates for the other Nexus devices.
What I think happened is Motorola was told that 4.3.1 would be rolling out "soon" so rather than keep working on fixing bugs in 4.3.0 that could be fixed in 4.3.1, Motorola tackled the main issues such as the camera, call quality, etc for the OTA and will resync their builds with AOSP so they can go straight to 4.3.1 for their OTA.
Now I could be totally wrong but given Motorola's previous update history, the Bionic for example went from Gingerbread straight to 4.0.4 and skipped 4.0.2 and 4.0.3, from there it went straight to 4.1.2 and skipped 4.1.1. I know Motorola is rebranding themselves right now but I guess they made a calculated decision to get the biggest issues fixed first, then release the big update which will take more testing.
I also think that because Samsung and HTC released Google Play Edition devices, they got earlier access to 4.3 than Motorola did so this would explain how they've had additional time to work on integrating their UI's into 4.3. I think Google is just playing it a bit too safe in trying to ensure no one thinks Motorola is getting prefered treatment over other companies.

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From what I've seen there were 3? leaks of 4.3 engineering builds so far to date for the Moto X. In addition to the standard 4.3 features, they seem to also be updating Touchless Controls, Active Display and the Camera App. Now I saw that 4.3.1 is rolling out to the Nexus 7 LTE and I'm sure we will see it released to AOSP "soon" with a list of changes as well as 4.3.1 updates for the other Nexus devices.
What I think happened is Motorola was told that 4.3.1 would be rolling out "soon" so rather than keep working on fixing bugs in 4.3.0 that could be fixed in 4.3.1, Motorola tackled the main issues such as the camera, call quality, etc for the OTA and will resync their builds with AOSP so they can go straight to 4.3.1 for their OTA.
Now I could be totally wrong but given Motorola's previous update history, the Bionic for example went from Gingerbread straight to 4.0.4 and skipped 4.0.2 and 4.0.3, from there it went straight to 4.1.2 and skipped 4.1.1. I know Motorola is rebranding themselves right now but I guess they made a calculated decision to get the biggest issues fixed first, then release the big update which will take more testing.
I also think that because Samsung and HTC released Google Play Edition devices, they got earlier access to 4.3 than Motorola did so this would explain how they've had additional time to work on integrating their UI's into 4.3. I think Google is just playing it a bit too safe in trying to ensure no one thinks Motorola is getting prefered treatment over other companies.
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That was my other thought. Maybe have to wait longer but be better off with 4.3.1 over 4.3
Hopefully 4.4 is quick though!

mikeosu said:
That was my other thought. Maybe have to wait longer but be better off with 4.3.1 over 4.3
Hopefully 4.4 is quick though!
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or it could be skipped over for 4.4, google does have more control over it now. I am getting my moto x tomorrow I can't wait.

Maybe the S4 having been released months in advance also has something to do with it....
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enigmaco said:
or it could be skipped over for 4.4, google does have more control over it now. I am getting my moto x tomorrow I can't wait.
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Very true. I would be ok with that if it meant an earlier update! I'm probably getting one soon with that best buy deal. Too good to pass up!

The biggest fix in 4.3 was the trim support (and SE Linux, but you won't notice that)... Moto X already has trim built in so there really isn't much rush on the 4.3 front.
I'd prefer a skip to 4.4 if that makes it a faster release.

x86 libs ????

razr if i receive the update to 4.4 will be easier to build a custon rom really??

edvicent said:
razr if i receive the update to 4.4 will be easier to build a custon rom really??
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most likely, yes but the chance that we get it or get it in a couple of weeks is very small. I think that if they work on it t will be next year around summer or later. But they already got a 4.2 working on the chinese phone.

Very likely we will update this
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most likely, yes but the chance that we get it or get it in a couple of weeks is very small. I think that if they work on it t will be next year around summer or later. But they already got a 4.2 working on the chinese phone.
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I personally asked a motorola ™ attendant and she told me that i have the razr but the update can only hope they just release an update when a much younger version of android have a razr xt916 d1 and it upon himself to announce the motorola says he will have the update and he is very modest ... More motorola said it will update to the whole line razr work confirmed my razr phone i have spare capacity to run then I guess so uu more this should only happen in the first quarter of 2014: p even if that happens we will have brand new libs and everything will be much more easy to get a stable rom

Android L on X b4 Nexus?

I just thought i would pass this along. Jerry, over on Android Central, stated yesterday in the podcast that the people he knows at Moto said that their goal was to release the update on the x before the nexus 5 got it..... again. if you remember last year they managed to do it. it ruined the phone, and only happened because Google stopped the rollout to the n5 to fix some bugs, but they did it anyways.
The moral of the story? If you want L really fast, the x is the way to go.

Let's hope just like 4.4.4 Verizon doesn't slow them down

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Let's hope just like 4.4.4 Verizon doesn't slow them down
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i think they are mainly talking about the pure edition. they can literally upload the os and send it out to all pure editions the moment they get the code. last year though... verizon was the first to get kitkat. so who knows.

pretty much one of the biggest pluses of the X and why i'm on board. very good to hear this is going to be a continued trend with this device.

phermey said:
I just thought i would pass this along. Jerry, over on Android Central, stated yesterday in the podcast that the people he knows at Moto said that their goal was to release the update on the x before the nexus 5 got it..... again. if you remember last year they managed to do it. it ruined the phone, and only happened because Google stopped the rollout to the n5 to fix some bugs, but they did it anyways.
The moral of the story? If you want L really fast, the x is the way to go.
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this is good news. i didn't know that the old Moto X updates were really quick. it is quicker than i thought. now for the new Moto X, it is going to be good!
will the old Moto X be getting L too?

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pretty much one of the biggest pluses of the X and why i'm on board. very good to hear this is going to be a continued trend with this device.
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i completely agree.
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this is good news. i didn't know that the old Moto X updates were really quick. it is quicker than i thought. now for the new Moto X, it is going to be good!
will the old Moto X be getting L too?
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the old one started with 4.2.2. when kitkat was released, some of the n5(s) got the update, but google immediately stopped the roll out because encrypted devices were getting bricked. a few days later (nine days after the announcement if i remember), the verizon phone got it. they ran the soak test side by side with the update to everyone else on verizon. then the next week att and tmo got it. sprint followed shortly thereafter. and i still had kit kat on my x for a 'minute' before my n7 got it.
the important thing to note is the og moto x was absolutely flawless on 4.2.2. then moto releases an update that they did not test and introduced all kinds of annoying bugs. it took seconds just to unlock and such. the app updates came a week later. and then were finally fixed, pretty much, a couple of weeks after that. but the og x has never been as good as it was when it was on 4.2.2.
another problem is that moto likes to tout how many of their customers are on the latest and greatest. so the way they make sure that 96% of their devices are running the current update is they pop up the update notification page on literally every click you make on the phone. the shove the update down your throat so to speak. i personally like to find out what problems peopl are having first... and then download. but i do realize that i am in the minority on that one.
the other updates that we have received on the moto were properly tested before released. in the end... fast updates have their pros, but they also have their drawbacks.

phermey said:
i completely agree.
the old one started with 4.2.2. when kitkat was released, some of the n5(s) got the update, but google immediately stopped the roll out because encrypted devices were getting bricked. a few days later (nine days after the announcement if i remember), the verizon phone got it. they ran the soak test side by side with the update to everyone else on verizon. then the next week att and tmo got it. sprint followed shortly thereafter. and i still had kit kat on my x for a 'minute' before my n7 got it.
the important thing to note is the og moto x was absolutely flawless on 4.2.2. then moto releases an update that they did not test and introduced all kinds of annoying bugs. it took seconds just to unlock and such. the app updates came a week later. and then were finally fixed, pretty much, a couple of weeks after that. but the og x has never been as good as it was when it was on 4.2.2.
another problem is that moto likes to tout how many of their customers are on the latest and greatest. so the way they make sure that 96% of their devices are running the current update is they pop up the update notification page on literally every click you make on the phone. the shove the update down your throat so to speak. i personally like to find out what problems peopl are having first... and then download. but i do realize that i am in the minority on that one.
the other updates that we have received on the moto were properly tested before released. in the end... fast updates have their pros, but they also have their drawbacks.
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thanks for that deep info. it makes sense, fast isn't always better. I did read that 4.4.4 screwed up the OG Moto X, which was kind of a letdown. but I really feel that Android L is going to be complete, in a sense of no major bugs when it releases. I want that quickly. having a L preview definitely helps in squashing the bugs, which is why I am more confident in the L update being rolled out quickly not destroying the phone than all the other Android updates

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i think they are mainly talking about the pure edition. they can literally upload the os and send it out to all pure editions the moment they get the code.
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That isn't true. Google ships Motorola the final Android L code before the public. But it will take time to merge their changes. People incorrectly assume Motorola runs stock android. They use a custom kernel and have a good bit of changes under the hood. I'm sure they will push L quickly after Google announces it, but it is not a simple process.

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That isn't true. Google ships Motorola the final Android L code before the public. But it will take time to merge their changes. People incorrectly assume Motorola runs stock android. They use a custom kernel and have a good bit of changes under the hood. I'm sure they will push L quickly after Google announces it, but it is not a simple process.
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i am assuming the preview and the pdk that they have their hands on will allow for them to have the kernel ready. and moto gets it the same time we do...according to the htc infographic.

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i am assuming the preview and the pdk that they have their hands on will allow for them to have the kernel ready. and moto gets it the same time we do...according to the htc infographic.
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Venders get the code before the public does. Google announced this quite a while ago to speed up releases.

ANDROID L aosp

Hey any devs out there will skills ,resources and the time PLEAAASE PLEAAAASE make an AOSP build for the Moto X.... I know Motorola will be quick with their updates but i just cant wait!!! I am just refreshing the Development sections of the Forum every hour hoping for a ROM build....

I believe devs would have to make a whole new kernel since L was not released for the moto x yet. Not sure if someone will do that before it is officially released for us.

I just want it! Caaant wait! i really hope some dev is already working his ass off to bring us some Lollipop!

Gundabolu SC said:
I just want it! Caaant wait! i really hope some dev is already working his ass off to bring us some Lollipop!
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Without kernel and binaries = No deal. It was already tried with KitKat, I tried with the AOSP sources but without a Kernel developer dedicating it's precious time and the binaries/drivers, just give up on your dream.

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Without kernel and binaries = No deal. It was already tried with KitKat, I tried with the AOSP sources but without a Kernel developer dedicating it's precious time and the binaries/drivers, just give up on your dream.
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Its definitely NOT impossible!!! When other devices like S3 mini,s3,Xperia Z can run without the binaries.... Why cant the Moto X? People have just given up on this phone!
I mean till now we were in the spotlight, but after Moto X 2014 we have been pushed back... We always have run the latest versions of Android till date n have never faced the need for porting n stuff... but i guess this will change when Motorola stops supporting us, then OSs would be ported withot Binaries!

Gundabolu SC said:
Its definitely NOT impossible!!! When other devices like S3 mini,s3,Xperia Z can run without the binaries.... Why cant the Moto X? People have just given up on this phone!
I mean till now we were in the spotlight, but after Moto X 2014 we have been pushed back... We always have run the latest versions of Android till date n have never faced the need for porting n stuff... but i guess this will change when Motorola stops supporting us, then OSs would be ported withot Binaries!
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They worked on other devices because they have common parts inside of them. Commom snapdragon chips, when the Moto X has the "powerful futureproof Moto X8 Mobile Computing System", it still a snapdragon, yeah, but heavily modified. As I said, until we see sources we won't get it. Why? The work to make a KitKat kernel (specially the Moto X one) work on Lollipop isn't worth the effort. Unless you pay someone for it...

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They worked on other devices because they have common parts inside of them. Commom snapdragon chips, when the Moto X has the "powerful futureproof Moto X8 Mobile Computing System", it still a snapdragon, yeah, but heavily modified. As I said, until we see sources we won't get it. Why? The work to make a KitKat kernel (specially the Moto X one) work on Lollipop isn't worth the effort. Unless you pay someone for it...
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As far as I understand the modification to the processor is not to the Main processor itself but its just the addition of further coprocessors... I doubt if Qualcomm would keep quiet if Motorola messed with their processor and called it their own! Aaand.. Even with the sources we are not allowed to use the coprocessors right? So they are pretty much useless! I STILL don't think its THAT HARD! yeah it might be hard... But others have done it... People here just don't try as much I suppose!

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As far as I understand the modification to the processor is not to the Main processor itself but its just the addition of further coprocessors... I doubt if Qualcomm would keep quiet if Motorola messed with their processor and called it their own! Aaand.. Even with the sources we are not allowed to use the coprocessors right? So they are pretty much useless! I STILL don't think its THAT HARD! yeah it might be hard... But others have done it... People here just don't try as much I suppose!
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It's not worth porting over just so 50 people can have Lollipop on their Moto X 2013 when it's going to come within the next month anyway.'
Those other devices will probably either never get Lollipop or well get them much later.

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It's not worth porting over just so 50 people can have Lollipop on their Moto X 2013 when it's going to come within the next month anyway.'
Those other devices will probably either never get Lollipop or well get them much later.
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I agree... Anyways... Already OmniROM seems to have started merging Lollipop...
I don't think it will be long b4 other pitch in too!