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Motorola europe just announced the official Froyo for our milestone at facebook.
Motorola Europe
Many of you have asked again for an update on the FroYo upgrade for Milestone, so we wanted to let you know that we have now entered the operator testing phase. We will give you more information as soon as we can.
I wonder why GOT´s leak hasn´t been updated while motorola devs work on the image ?
Fantastic news! Thank you!
Yeah...Proper Flash on the MS finally.... Hope it comes out soon
Great news...Was waiting for this for a lot of time...Now the developer can focus on the official to make the best 2.2 roms
i wonder how much they've fixed up the final kernel.
really an exciting news!!!
Hope flash video can be played properly on the final version
And the next post
Motorola Europe
Good news. We can confirm that Flash will be part of the FroYo upgrade, we have now entered the operator testing phase of our FroYo testing schedule. This update is still going ahead and we will continue to keep you informed of further developments
för 16 timmar sedan ·
Here is the pictures from facebook too
Yeah!!! Can't wait to see official custom ROMs!!!
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Read This:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
European Milestone Update Rollout in Q4
http://www.facebook.com/motorolaeurope
No info for carrier froyo rollout mate
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I wonder why GOT´s leak hasn´t been updated while motorola devs work on the image ?
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you might think about where nadlabak got his newer leaked kernels from....just an idea
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Great news...Was waiting for this for a lot of time...Now the developer can focus on the official to make the best 2.2 roms
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suddenly i feel this is the best thing of the whole world
thx for our devs 4 the wonderful works
cant find a way to express my,our ,er,i dont know,maybe someone may add
so when they will release this ...? we are waiting already for so long....next time I don't think I will buy again a Motorola...
Who cares about the build Motorola is giving us. We just want the kernel, kernel libs, and prop. files anyhow oh yeah and kernel sources..
Ah and ofc unlocked bootloader!!
I Don't care, as this will be my last Moto, will change to HTC/Samsung before x'mas
What I don't get is why it takes Moto so damn long to give us the exact same thing that Verizon Droid customers got in July-August!!
chambo622 said:
What I don't get is why it takes Moto so damn long to give us the exact same thing that Verizon Droid customers got in July-August!!
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You should delete this post because actually, its not the same thing.
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You should delete this post because actually, its not the same thing.
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yeah, but it kind of is. Same software, different drivers. And the reality seems to be to me (Sorry if I'm wrong) that the software can be ported easily from one to the other, and the 2.1 drivers and bootloader just need to be updated for the 2.2 os and kernel.
Call me a conspiracy theorist - but I still think that Moto's dragging their feet because the Milestone 2 is almost exactly the same phone as the Milestone - it just has 2.2, which, conveniently Milestone owners can't upgrade to themselves.
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yeah, but it kind of is. Same software, different drivers. And the reality seems to be to me (Sorry if I'm wrong) that the software can be ported easily from one to the other, and the 2.1 drivers and bootloader just need to be updated for the 2.2 os and kernel.
Call me a conspiracy theorist - but I still think that Moto's dragging their feet because the Milestone 2 is almost exactly the same phone as the Milestone - it just has 2.2, which, conveniently Milestone owners can't upgrade to themselves.
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i agree on this.
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What I don't get is why it takes Moto so damn long to give us the exact same thing that Verizon Droid customers got in July-August!!
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The reason is : they want you buy a milestone 2 instead of upgrade your os.
So guys, what do you all think ? What are our chances to receive ics from motorola? I would say we got some pretty decent chances since our phone is "Evaluation & Planning" on https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c it could only take a while... But i still believe in it, what are your oppinion guys ? Will we get it after all ?
I highly doubt that the D3 will ever see an official ICS update. We were lucky to get .906 to be honest. The closest thing we will get is CM9 and AOKP. But hey, there's always that little glimmer of chance though.
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So guys, what do you all think ? What are our chances to receive ics from motorola? I would say we got some pretty decent chances since our phone is "Evaluation & Planning" on https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c it could only take a while... But i still believe in it, what are your oppinion guys ? Will we get it after all ?
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I think we will get it... Probably not until December or something crazy like that. They probably won't make an announcement until July or Aug as to which phones will receive it.
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Im being optimistic about the update too, Droid 3 is powerful enough to run the ICS smoothly... Why shouldnt they do it ?
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Im being optimistic about the update too, Droid 3 is powerful enough to run the ICS smoothly... Why shouldnt they do it ?
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I think Verizon won't allow the D3 to be updated. They are focusing more on 4G LTE devices as well as devices that have at least 1 Gig of ram. Since the D3 has neither, I doubt that we will see ICS officially released from Verizon.
Most of the devices in the market today have 512ram and are running ICS Smoothly.. Officialy.
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Most of the devices in the market today have 512ram and are running ICS Smoothly.. Officialy.
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But do those devices have heavy bloatware and a heavy custom UI like MotoBlur running on them? These are things that you have to take into consideration. There's still hope for an official ICS update, but I just don't see it happening.
Our phone runs just fine without them. All we need is hardware codecs and the big stuff with ICS will be pretty much done.
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Our phone runs just fine without them. All we need is hardware codecs and the big stuff with ICS will be pretty much done.
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Im' awaare, but an official release of ICS would have the bloat and custom UI.
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Im' awaare, but an official release of ICS would have the bloat and custom UI.
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and no one on XDA ever created a rom based on "official" updates without removing bloat or UI?
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and no one on XDA ever created a rom based on "official" updates without removing bloat or UI?
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I'm not talking about custom roms like CM9 or AOKP. I am talking about a stock ICS rom from Motorola and Verizon for the D3. An official update. I am simply stating that since the D3 has no 4G LTE and only 512 mb of ram, Verizon and Motorola most likely won't bother updating it to ICS. Also, being that it has 512 mb of ram, ICS, along with all of Verizon's bloat and Motorola's custom UI, won't run as smoothly as a custom rom.
Isn't there a internal moto dev version of ics that supposedly ran beautifully? thought I remembered reading about that a while ago.
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Heres an email i received from Motorola support.
Dear Vytautas,
Thanks for reaching out to Motorola. I’ve reviewed your e-mail and I’m ready to help.
We do understand that you are excited with the latest Android Ice Cream Sandwich update and we are very sorry for the inconvenience. However, at this time, we do not have any further details, yet, if the Droid 3 will be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich.
As soon as we have the information, it will be shared to all users. Do not worry, your concern has already been noted.
We hope that you find this information useful and we look forward to assisting you in the future.
For information about Motorola products and services, please visit us at http://www.motorola.com/
Thank you for contacting Motorola e-mail support.
Best Regards,
Brian
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I think that support guy knows something, but he just cant tell anything... Do not worry, your concern has already been noted. This fraze makes me think about that...
I've got a feeling Moto will be working on D3/Milestone3/XT883 or whatever its called and possibly release the files for ours or similar devices, but the sticking point will be Verizon.
Shouldn't matter if the other carriers/similar devices get ICS, Id guess porting what we'd need wouldn't be a problem then
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I think Verizon won't allow the D3 to be updated. They are focusing more on 4G LTE devices as well as devices that have at least 1 Gig of ram. Since the D3 has neither, I doubt that we will see ICS officially released from Verizon.
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An HTC Droid Incredible 2 update has already been announced, so it's not that. (The DInc 2 has 768 MB of RAM; perhaps that is enough to make a difference? I doubt it, though.)
It's probably 50/50. Clearly Moto will focus on getting the Razrs, Bionic and Droid 4 updated before they move on to other phones. The D3 seems a natural upgrade - unlike the X2, it has the same processor as those other phones; it's basically a Bionic with a keyboard, no LTE, "world phone" capability and half the RAM. Is that enough to make it a difficult upgrade? I guess we'll know when we know.
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Heres an email i received from Motorola support.
I think that support guy knows something, but he just cant tell anything... Do not worry, your concern has already been noted. This fraze makes me think about that...
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Being the downer I am, I feel like he meant to say "SHUT UP ALREADY! We know you want ICS! We just like watching you all squirm!"
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So, today I got bored and decided to pick Moto's brains a bit about this topic. (Yes, this is what I did with my free time today.)
I got slightly off topic myself do to his ignorance, but in the end it went well I'd say... You can pretty much skip to the last 5 or so lines.
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Rez: Hi, my name is Rez. How may I help you?
Me: I just have a question about the Droid 3 getting Andorid 4.0. I see that older devices (from other companies) with less powerful internals are scheduled to receive an ICS update. Is it likely that the D3 will receive 4.0?
Rez: That's a good question, Redsox985. Let me check that out for you.
Me: Thanks.
Rez: Thank you for waiting, Redsox985.
Rez: I can see that the ICS update for Droid 3 is under evaluation and planning. We will keep you posted thru our website for updates.
Rez: https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c
Me: What does "evaluation and planning" mean? Can you say if it'll happen or not based on this?
Rez: We are waiting for information about the update, Redsox985. It is pending. It should pushed thru since we send updates to most of the Motorola
smartphones from time to time.
Me: Also, I know that independent developers have made a handful of ROMs built from source that run smoothly on the D3. Is it a matter of if the phone can run ICS or is its age an issue?
Rez: Are you referring to a different software for Droid 3 or get the phone rooted, is that what you mean?
Me: Yes, by rooting, you can flash independently built ICS rom's from android source. They run on the phone, but some issues exist between the gingerbread kernel (locked boot loader) and ICS features like hardware acceleration, video camera, and flash.
Me: Adobe flash that is.
Rez: The problem later is the phone will not be able to receive updates once the phone is rooted.
Me: It can be unrooted and restored back to stock software with an SBF.
Rez: It can be unrooted but the updates will not work anymore.
Me: I just did it. I was running 5.6.890 rooted with an open source ICS rom. The 5.7.906 update had started to be pushed OTA. I ran RSD Lite and restored the phone to box stock 5.6.890. I then accepted and installed the OTA. Then re-rooted it.
Rez: It may be working for now but we don't the after-effect of it. I have that case earlier that his phone was rooted before. After trying to unroot it, the phone will not boot up. He's trying to update the phone but it cannot be updated anymore since the phone is not on. suggested to send it to our repair center but I set an expectation to him that it will be considered to be out of warranty already.
Me: RSD Lite will flash all partitions of the phone (radio, system, etc.) back to box stock as if it was purchased new.
Rez: That's a good experiment, Redsox985. How do you want me to help you with that?
Me: It's not an experiment. It works. I just used it. It unrooted my phone and flashed all partitions allowing me to accept the latest OTA.
Me: If I'm able to return to the OTA path, then how could receiving an ICS update (if one even comes) be any different?
Rez: ICS has not yet been announced, we don't have the list of enhancements yet what are included on the ICS. We don't have the information also what will not work once the ICS is installed on the phone that was rooted. We will keep you posted thru our website at www.motorola com for updates.
Me: It can be unrooted and restored to stock software to the point where an OTA will not be able to detect anything different. It's possible to flash box stock software to the phone. It rewrites all partitions.
Rez: I see. That's a good idea.
Me: So, can you speak on the likelihood of the D3 receiving official ICS? It can run it, it's been done. Why won't Moto even consider it?
Rez: We are following what's being updated to us. As I mentioned earlier the ICS update for Droid 3 is under evaluation and planning. If you have successfully done it by rooting, it's not from us.
Me: I know it's not official, I'm just wondering why it hasn't been done being that it's possible.
Rez: Because we are working on updates thoroughly. We don't want that we just send out updates with glitches.
Me: So, ICS for the D3 is being worked on?
Rez: Yes. That's part of evaluation.
Me: But it's possible that the update will just be killed internally before it ever is released?
Rez: I cant say that unless it happens. I don't want to give any false hopes. Because we are also waiting for that update.
Me: Can you estimate the D3's chances of receiving ICS?
Rez: 90 per cent it will receive it.
Me: Wow. I'm impressed. Thanks.
Me: Is that a hopeful or conservative estimate?
Rez: Hopeful.
Lolz I think you know more about the phone then your rep did
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Endoroid said:
Lolz I think you know more about the phone then your rep did
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Undoubtedly. But he has the internal update info I don't. So I dealt with his stupidity and kept pressing.
Android Police article
Not that most people here are really bothered since you use the custom ROMs, but now this means there will be an official Jelly Bean template to make a sweet CM JB ROM off of.
Hopefully they won't cancel the upgrade.
Do you think we will get 4.1 after 4.2 is released?
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Prob 4.1
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I don't trust moto.
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I don't trust moto.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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I ordered already other device, not sure if I'll 100% move to it, but I plan to get rid of moto after that happened with my previous device motorola photon. I couldn't wait more and decided to try droid 4. After this politics I plan to go out of moto once I'll find good device. Hope, that found already.
I'm posting this from a D4 on Jellybeans but I'm still glad to hear this. I think it will go a long way towards making people feel they can trust Motorola again, which as we can see from a few other posts here many people do not.
The real question in my mind is, what will come first, the DROID 5 or the official JB upgrade? What I want to see are updates the drop shortly after AOSP does, not a year later...
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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At this point I would be happy with that. 4.3 in screen + S4 (AKA the Photon Q)= fine with me.
The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
I wonder if the old cheesecake method would work if Motorola does start working on official Jellybean updates.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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I'd ditch moto in a heartbeat if there was another phone with a physical keyboard. Too bad there'll never be a nexus with a keyboard.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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I don't mean to change the subject but which ROM are you using? The cyanogen 10 has no camera, Bluetooth issues, and crashes (not that I'm complaining, I'm grateful to even have it), but I thought that was pretty much the situation for all of them at the moment?
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
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where did you read that?
I'd be more than satisfied to get 4.1 in Q1 of next year.
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where did you read that?
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It's been around for a while at http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...2-2-key-lime-pie-upgrade-timeline-razr-x.html
Cheers,
Steve.
Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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I'm pretty sure this article was labeled as untrue rumor. Android 4.2.2 won't be a the next codename of android. I'm pretty sure we will be getting JB 4.1 since that's what Moto promised to us earlier this year. Honestly, I don't think any devices with less than 2GB will get Android 4.2 other than stock Android devices.
It's been a good run the the D4, I'm pretty happy with CM10 on here right now, much less bloated! I just miss the power off animation (CRT)...
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A question to the society (any inside info?) : do you think there is a chance that our Razr i gets the Moto developed, stock 4.3?
On paper, it would fit within the magic 18 month Android dev horizon.
Any ideas on this?
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A question to the society (any inside info?) : do you think there is a chance that our Razr i gets the Moto developed, stock 4.3?
On paper, it would fit within the magic 18 month Android dev horizon.
Any ideas on this?
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I've searched and found nothing about Razr i being updated to android 4.3, but I think it will. There's no excuses to not update our smartphone.
lol, i would be happy if they give us at least JB 4.2.2
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lol, i would be happy if they give us at least JB 4.2.2
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Intel has finished porting 4.2 to x86 this year. It's just a matter of Motorola to start to work with. There's planty of chance that Moto will update our device to 4.2. 4.3 it's hard to say,but if you see any news about intel porting 4.3, it's a hope.
4.2 is officially on Motorola's plans, and the last released schedule mentions it coming by October. Let's see if they can do it as promised.
I just thought i would pass this along. Jerry, over on Android Central, stated yesterday in the podcast that the people he knows at Moto said that their goal was to release the update on the x before the nexus 5 got it..... again. if you remember last year they managed to do it. it ruined the phone, and only happened because Google stopped the rollout to the n5 to fix some bugs, but they did it anyways.
The moral of the story? If you want L really fast, the x is the way to go.
Let's hope just like 4.4.4 Verizon doesn't slow them down
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Let's hope just like 4.4.4 Verizon doesn't slow them down
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i think they are mainly talking about the pure edition. they can literally upload the os and send it out to all pure editions the moment they get the code. last year though... verizon was the first to get kitkat. so who knows.
pretty much one of the biggest pluses of the X and why i'm on board. very good to hear this is going to be a continued trend with this device.
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I just thought i would pass this along. Jerry, over on Android Central, stated yesterday in the podcast that the people he knows at Moto said that their goal was to release the update on the x before the nexus 5 got it..... again. if you remember last year they managed to do it. it ruined the phone, and only happened because Google stopped the rollout to the n5 to fix some bugs, but they did it anyways.
The moral of the story? If you want L really fast, the x is the way to go.
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this is good news. i didn't know that the old Moto X updates were really quick. it is quicker than i thought. now for the new Moto X, it is going to be good!
will the old Moto X be getting L too?
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pretty much one of the biggest pluses of the X and why i'm on board. very good to hear this is going to be a continued trend with this device.
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i completely agree.
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this is good news. i didn't know that the old Moto X updates were really quick. it is quicker than i thought. now for the new Moto X, it is going to be good!
will the old Moto X be getting L too?
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the old one started with 4.2.2. when kitkat was released, some of the n5(s) got the update, but google immediately stopped the roll out because encrypted devices were getting bricked. a few days later (nine days after the announcement if i remember), the verizon phone got it. they ran the soak test side by side with the update to everyone else on verizon. then the next week att and tmo got it. sprint followed shortly thereafter. and i still had kit kat on my x for a 'minute' before my n7 got it.
the important thing to note is the og moto x was absolutely flawless on 4.2.2. then moto releases an update that they did not test and introduced all kinds of annoying bugs. it took seconds just to unlock and such. the app updates came a week later. and then were finally fixed, pretty much, a couple of weeks after that. but the og x has never been as good as it was when it was on 4.2.2.
another problem is that moto likes to tout how many of their customers are on the latest and greatest. so the way they make sure that 96% of their devices are running the current update is they pop up the update notification page on literally every click you make on the phone. the shove the update down your throat so to speak. i personally like to find out what problems peopl are having first... and then download. but i do realize that i am in the minority on that one.
the other updates that we have received on the moto were properly tested before released. in the end... fast updates have their pros, but they also have their drawbacks.
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i completely agree.
the old one started with 4.2.2. when kitkat was released, some of the n5(s) got the update, but google immediately stopped the roll out because encrypted devices were getting bricked. a few days later (nine days after the announcement if i remember), the verizon phone got it. they ran the soak test side by side with the update to everyone else on verizon. then the next week att and tmo got it. sprint followed shortly thereafter. and i still had kit kat on my x for a 'minute' before my n7 got it.
the important thing to note is the og moto x was absolutely flawless on 4.2.2. then moto releases an update that they did not test and introduced all kinds of annoying bugs. it took seconds just to unlock and such. the app updates came a week later. and then were finally fixed, pretty much, a couple of weeks after that. but the og x has never been as good as it was when it was on 4.2.2.
another problem is that moto likes to tout how many of their customers are on the latest and greatest. so the way they make sure that 96% of their devices are running the current update is they pop up the update notification page on literally every click you make on the phone. the shove the update down your throat so to speak. i personally like to find out what problems peopl are having first... and then download. but i do realize that i am in the minority on that one.
the other updates that we have received on the moto were properly tested before released. in the end... fast updates have their pros, but they also have their drawbacks.
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thanks for that deep info. it makes sense, fast isn't always better. I did read that 4.4.4 screwed up the OG Moto X, which was kind of a letdown. but I really feel that Android L is going to be complete, in a sense of no major bugs when it releases. I want that quickly. having a L preview definitely helps in squashing the bugs, which is why I am more confident in the L update being rolled out quickly not destroying the phone than all the other Android updates
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i think they are mainly talking about the pure edition. they can literally upload the os and send it out to all pure editions the moment they get the code.
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That isn't true. Google ships Motorola the final Android L code before the public. But it will take time to merge their changes. People incorrectly assume Motorola runs stock android. They use a custom kernel and have a good bit of changes under the hood. I'm sure they will push L quickly after Google announces it, but it is not a simple process.
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That isn't true. Google ships Motorola the final Android L code before the public. But it will take time to merge their changes. People incorrectly assume Motorola runs stock android. They use a custom kernel and have a good bit of changes under the hood. I'm sure they will push L quickly after Google announces it, but it is not a simple process.
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i am assuming the preview and the pdk that they have their hands on will allow for them to have the kernel ready. and moto gets it the same time we do...according to the htc infographic.
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i am assuming the preview and the pdk that they have their hands on will allow for them to have the kernel ready. and moto gets it the same time we do...according to the htc infographic.
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Venders get the code before the public does. Google announced this quite a while ago to speed up releases.