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I am very interested in getting balls deep into the development/"porting" of the Sense UI to CM6 or a vanilla 2.2 kernel for the Moto Droid. I realize that none of the Sense UI based official source is available at this time - but it will be. I am willing to invest time and money into this effort. I think it will be a great learning experience too. Please let me know if you're interested and what your current skillset is.
My android experience is limited to compiling kernels and medicore java development. I've been doing *nix development for ~5 years now and would like transition deeper into the android (low level) development world.
Thanks.
sounds great i am a huge fan of zusedroid and 2.2 i swich between the to all the time and seeing that someone is willing to work on it is great because i saw the zd team slowly fall apart or as it seems i think they just gave up on it or somthing or they all just got a droid x but great news i would be willing to healp but i dont know what i would have to offer o well i think u should port frome the droid incredible because it is gsm and not cdma like the diser or the nexusthiss one should be hard but easyer than what zd had to put wp with
id love to see this go into a full port. i've been using the zeusdroid for now, the drawbacks suck but i love the htc sense so i put up with the flaws.
helping financially is tough as i am a full time student, however i am upon my last year of electrical engineering, but no major programing or developing experience however if there's something i can tackle i'll be happy to try
monty_boy said:
To all:
I am very interested in getting balls deep into the development/"porting" of the Sense UI to CM6 or a vanilla 2.2 kernel for the Moto Droid. I realize that none of the Sense UI based official source is available at this time - but it will be. I am willing to invest time and money into this effort. I think it will be a great learning experience too. Please let me know if you're interested and what your current skillset is.
My android experience is limited to compiling kernels and medicore java development. I've been doing *nix development for ~5 years now and would like transition deeper into the android (low level) development world.
Thanks.
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umm i just started a thread where i have PORTED sense 2.2 to the droid it IS NOT fully working and i need more devs to help me.
Does it boot up fully or boot loop because if it fully boots I would love to try
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Does it boot up fully or boot loop because if it fully boots I would love to try
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It boots up fully to sense ui but it's not fully functional yet.
i would LOVE a completely working 2.2 sense rom for the droid. i think the droid incredible would definitely be the thing to work with to make it happen. I cant help do it, but i will definitely donate a ton AFTER a completely working rom is made, and i think a lot of other people would too.
maybe you could recruit someone from the original zeusdroid team.
please please make this work, that would be amazing. good luck, and donations would come, if its completed
Just a bit of random knowledge - CM is an EXCELLENT rom, as a project of its own. It is built from source and heavily modified. With great power, comes great responsibility. It can be further modified, but is in no way a good start point for porting a pre-built rom. I am speaking from experience in saying that it is a VERY customized build. You are FAR better starting with sense, and a stock rom to splice in. I made the mistake of thinking I could use a CM build as a start when porting sense to the mytouch. 3 Migraines later, I realized what the issue was, and while parts of CM could be ported to sense, sense was not being ported to CM.
Example - Take the stock 84B Boot image and slap it on any rom and you will see that all of them function except CM. The boot and system are built together, which is efficient when it is released as a complete package, but again, not good for using as a start to any hack and slash project.
That said, the best option is to get parts from Zeusdroid Alpha, parts from Milestone MotoSense, and have a chat with barak and eugene about how they ported the original Milestone firmware to Droid, and combine this knowledge
Hey guys, you already knew that Gingerbread announced officially yesterday. So what do you think about booting this yummy gingerbread on our hTC Touch Diamond2? Is it even possible?! (before saying that it's bootable or not!)
If it is, when our beloved devs will get started to build us some systems and kernels?
It's really more worthy than Froyo. Much faster and more reliable...
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Hey guys, you already knew that Gingerbread announced officially yesterday. So what do you think about booting this yummy gingerbread on our hTC Touch Diamond2? Is it even possible?! (before saying that it's bootable or not!)
If it is, when our beloved devs will get started to build us some systems and kernels?
It's really more worthy than Froyo. Much faster and more reliable...
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I think it possible, but only with upgraded kernels.
We just have to wait and see.
Porting gingerbread will be possible as soon as google posts the 2.3 source code up.
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Porting gingerbread will be possible as soon as google posts the 2.3 source code up.
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I got the first answer, but what do you think about it's stability? More than current Froyo builds? Or less?! And what do you guess about linux drivers? Could they work properly? (The most important one is 3D driver and after that, camera)
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I got the first answer, but what do you think about it's stability? More than current Froyo builds? Or less?! And what do you guess about linux drivers? Could they work properly? (The most important one is 3D driver and after that, camera)
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Well, the OS stability depends on the drivers if they are written properly there will be no problems ( like on our pcs, if drivers are not written properly the pc will crash often ). I think they can work properly
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Well, the OS stability depends on the drivers if they are written properly there will be no problems ( like on our pcs, if drivers are not written properly the pc will crash often ). I think they can work properly
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Yes... But I don't understand... Topaz Android Port project started since last year and it started with Shadowline. And HD2 Porting started about 4-5 months ago. But HD2 has now a fully functional android and we are facing basic issues!! (still!)
Why HD2 got developed this fast and we are developing slow?
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Yes... But I don't understand... Topaz Android Port project started since last year and it started with Shadowline. And HD2 Porting started about 4-5 months ago. But HD2 has now a fully functional android and we are facing basic issues!! (still!)
Why HD2 got developed this fast and we are developing slow?
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Because the HD2 has a bigger following and the drivers were easier to develop.
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Yes... But I don't understand... Topaz Android Port project started since last year and it started with Shadowline. And HD2 Porting started about 4-5 months ago. But HD2 has now a fully functional android and we are facing basic issues!! (still!)
Why HD2 got developed this fast and we are developing slow?
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HD2 has a much bigger community + many more developers then us and the 2nd thing is that XDAndroid is developing/porting Android to several devices not only one ( like topaz, blackstone, raphael, rhodium, ... ).
Topaz Android ROM
When the Android porting-project will be a compleated, - all of the RHODIUM's phones will be a very old and non perspective stuff's!
HTC have a special softvare and drivers source codes to make an device! XDA developers not have it! Without 1 million dollars - Topaz Android (pay to developers) not have a chance! ))
Magdac, - wher a you!?
I tried gingerbread 2 days ago. Neopeek build.
Gingerbread Confirmed
Yes, I confirm too... I installed Neopeek build on my Topaz... And my experience:
Well, it's a LOT, I mean it!, A LOT faster than any builds before. But...
It needs a lot of developments and tunings.
What works and what works not:
WiFi=Yes
Sound=Yes
GSM=Yes / CDMA=?
Data=Yes
PPTP VPN=NO!
G-Sensor=No
3D=Not completely... No Textures on NeoCore (But scores 22.1 fps without any gralloc drivers) but Angry Birds runs faster and without problem.
Boot=Faster than FroYo.
Camera=As expected, No!
Bluetooth=No, makes your device reboot.
Power=Not bad, but you'll see battery leaks.
Well, it's really worth to try and don't forget... It's just an Alpha build... JUST ALPHA and it can beat FroYo in this very version! But, we need to wait and see what developers will bring for us... I'm impatiently waiting for 3D and Camera... These two are the most important ones IMAO.
Dear ReWind402 and other devs, Speed up the XDAndroid please! We want NAND flash!!!
When I got my Diamond 2, I practically instantly regret I hadn't wait for the first Android release. A few days ago I bought an Android phone for my day to day usage. Since I just couldn't stand windows anymore!
I'm trying to sell my Diamond 2, but until then, I just can't wait also for the next XDAndroid!
And I'm starting to get dizzy with all Android releases from Google folks!
Feels like we're always waiting on the next big thing and that will never get the full experience!
Anyway... I would rather have full/near to full android on D2 than the sort of crappy and cheaper LG I bought
But... I just had to do it! Man! I do HATE windows mobile!
Where we can download it?
go to....
google "neopeek oops we did it again gingerbread" and boom your there
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Yes, I confirm too... I installed Neopeek build on my Topaz... And my experience:
Well, it's a LOT, I mean it!, A LOT faster than any builds before. But...
It needs a lot of developments and tunings.
What works and what works not:
WiFi=Yes
Sound=Yes
GSM=Yes / CDMA=?
Data=Yes
PPTP VPN=NO!
G-Sensor=No
3D=Not completely... No Textures on NeoCore (But scores 22.1 fps without any gralloc drivers) but Angry Birds runs faster and without problem.
Boot=Faster than FroYo.
Camera=As expected, No!
Bluetooth=No, makes your device reboot.
Power=Not bad, but you'll see battery leaks.
Well, it's really worth to try and don't forget... It's just an Alpha build... JUST ALPHA and it can beat FroYo in this very version! But, we need to wait and see what developers will bring for us... I'm impatiently waiting for 3D and Camera... These two are the most important ones IMAO.
Dear ReWind402 and other devs, Speed up the XDAndroid please! We want NAND flash!!!
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Hi,can you send me your kernel
I use modules-2.6.27.46-01245-gd9d77f2.tar.gz and zImage-2.6.27.46-01245-gd9d77f2,but i have problem with gallery
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Hi everyone, first I wanna say that Iam pretty bad speaking english but I ll do my best to this topic.
I just want to say that Im pretty happy with the community of OB cuz I have just 2 month with my OB and in that time there was just like 2, 3 ROMs available and those was little outdate... But right now we have 200% more than those days and they are pretty amazing ones
So all I have to say is keep that way and soon we even will have ICS in OB =P
Thx to:
- tantrums for his amazing Marvel Rom.
- gabwerkz for his amazing echelon ROM
- Huexxx for his amazing Zeus ROM
- achyut for his recent amazin ROM too
- re4lsk for his LFD ROM (I never try this but there is some pretty nice comm)
- TheFrankenstain for his work trying to port MIUI for our OB
And those dev that in his time work hard on our OB (I dont know exactly names cuz Im not that old on OB)
Edit:
This is my experience using those ROMs:
The first ROM I use was:
NOVA (Android 2.2)
This ROM is just excelent but is just a 2.2 Froyo ROM. I try this cuz when I buy my OB it came with that android version and that ROM was the original one plus a lot of tweaks!, I had no problem using this but I rly want to change to 2.3... so I found:
Zeus (Android 2.3.4)
At that moment it was at version 2.0 or similar, there we have an excellent ROM, no problems at all and great perfomance. I use this ROM long time without any Change, but there comming v3 and then 4 and I have bad experiences because SOD and when new version arrive I was wondering if t that will have no SODs and there I see still there for me... So, this ROM is excellent if you dont experiment any SOD (a lot of ppl havent but I do every time).
Then a lot of ROM born and I will not say in orden wich ROM I use (cuz I rly dont remember) but I ll say something about it.
Marvel
At it beggining it was just original ROM with a little tweaks, no so much difference, thats why I think this ROM wasnt rly a ROM, but then newest version arrive and it change a lot. I think this ROM is just perfect, great perfomance, no SOD for me, not problem at all... the reason I dont use this anymore is cuz "ICS UI". Im tired to see that UI at this momment...
Sapphire
I try this ROM less than a day because it UI, I just rly dont like, to much color and charge interface... I cant say anything usefull cuz I use this like 12 hours, it is smooth, great perfomance but thats it, I cant say anything else.
Echelon
This is my main ROM for my OB, I was a betatester of this ROM in an alpha version and it was just ammazing, then realease version arrive and a lot of ppl say that it was laggy, but I never experiment that, It is just rly smooth, great perfomance, amazing battery life (Im on 46% and it have 17hours of use with 3g on). I think you need to give a try to this ROM and if you dont experiment bad perfomance you will be happy with this =D
LFD
Like I say before, I never use this ROM... I remember now why I just dont... this is based on a "chinnese" ROM named Lezo and when that ROM arrive for our OB I give it a try and I was pretty dissapoined and when I see LFD was bassed on that, I just cant flash because my bad experience.... Maybe later I ll flash to give it a chance.
TMR
Well for this ROM I was a betatester too and I rly like the UI from MIUI, but there was a lot of problems at that time. Then It got new version and resolve a lot of problems. If you are a MIUI user, this is for you, there is a few problems yet, I experiment 2 random reboots, and the UI isnt smooth yet, but maybe some day will be a great ROM.
Noa
I never try this because Xperia UI, Im tired of that UI because I was xperia user and I just dont wanna see this anymore
CM7
Pretty nice but isnt stable yet.
I hope this can help you =P
+1
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+1 to all the roms but a (-1) to LFD ROM...
Congrats for the great work of all devs (including re4lsk ) and other users that contribute for this awesome community
I have been ghosting around for a while, now it's time to participate
Could this become a thread for people to discuss the different pros and cons of the several roms we now have? (or is there already a thread for that?)
It's becoming hard to decide and since not all of us have enough free time to test them all I believe it would be useful to have such a thread
lvlouro said:
Could this become a thread for people to discuss the different pros and cons of the several roms we now have? (or is there already a thread for that?)
It's becoming hard to decide and since not all of us have enough free time to test them all I believe it would be useful to have such a thread
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I can always give you my feedback about every ROM exist for OB, (except LFD, i was xperia user and I rly dont want to see anymore sony UI =P)
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I can always give you my feedback about every ROM exist for OB, (except LFD, i was xperia user and I rly dont want to see anymore sony UI =P)
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umm...i think ur wrong here...LFD is lezo based. "NOA" rom by DiederickC uses most of my SE ports to get a closer look to SE.
nd, i was a xperia user myself (but loved the SE UI )
Agreed to OP
Excellent work from devs on all roms available wright now, nice to see everybody is helping each other te improve their products.
I'm here now for a few weeks, looking for nice stuff for my OB.
So far i tested some great roms, right now i am on Zeus 5.03 lite. This one is nice stable en pretty fast.
Past 2 days i have been trying Echelon, with ups and downs. I have been reading in Echelon topic (to bad i can't post there yet)
This went in up and downs, first it ran laggy en got max 1500 on quadrant advanced, after a second install everything went very well and got 2000 on quadrant. but then after a few hours the lag came back for a unknown reason.
I don't know what the problem is, maybe it is a fault of myself.. i don't know
much reading and searching keeps me learning every day en coming a little further each day.
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umm...i think ur wrong here...LFD is lezo based. "NOA" rom by DiederickC uses most of my SE ports to get a closer look to SE.
nd, i was a xperia user myself (but loved the SE UI )
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Yeah, my mistake. I was confussed between LFD and Noa... thx for your comment
Well I think this thread can have my experience using that ROMs, so I'll edit first post and add that information there. Like everyone know the whole experiences is different for everyone, so take that informations as my opinion and no as a veredict
Thanks for the summary, it will be useful
I tried a lot of Custom ROMs in the last 6 months ..
The last 3 were:
-Echelon (stable, nice and simple UI, actually using),
-Marvel v4-v5-v6 (Pretty good and stable, until the last updates, Eats a lot of memory!!, so I changed)
-CM7 RC1 (Pretty Fast, very nice UI, but has a lot of bugs, too many reboots and freezzing, Can't wait for stable release)
Maybe put in a poll to see which rooms people prefer. Put the versions of the ROMs too eg. ZEUS v6 or marvel v6 etc.
Kudos
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I use Marvel A! It's the closest you can get to stock ROM for stability reason. Plus I have the option to remove all Bloatwares with Titanium Backup or Root Browser.
The advantage is "Peace of Mind" meaning I can finally use my phone as real phone releaving myself from endless flashing of new custom ROM bug updates everyday. When ICS comes out. I'll do the same method
hi.
LG will release the offical ics rom for our ob in 3 4 mounths. after that, there will be a lot of ics mods (not ports.)
now i want to know, why the users want ics now? i think it is about only enthusiasm.
i like miui. i think a lot of users like miui too. i think if we have one stable miui, it will be perfect. because miui dont plan to release any rom to our device.
miui is more customizable than other roms. more smooth and useful with its settings and apps. and seems good. if you dont like miui launcher, you can install other launchers too...
if we have stable miui on 2.3.4 or stg else, it can be ported on ics after lg's release.
what do you think about?
one project should start to make miui or support The Frankestain and flatzki i think.
i am only a user. not developer. and you can say, ok by or you can laugh this topic. but it is what i think. and want to know what you think.
and i hope this topic will help developers to know what users want...
actually i'm not very familiar with Miui and don't know exactly what it is but ICS is the new Android version so it's not strange that users want it..
Mostly because it should be better i think but also just because it's new..
One thing i do know, if LG says it will release ICS at the end of this year it would probably be the beginning of next year!
I think you should forget that we have official ICS in 4 months..
Do you really think we will get ics at all?
I'm a miui user, too, but I'm glad that there are these amazing ics ports, because some users just hate miui and need the choice
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i also wan ICS badly. I even flash every ics ever released.
But we still dont have a stable cm7
N thr r many more features tht GB has but OB doesnt, so it will b much better if we have advanved GB rom with advanved features than an ICS port with minor errors.
Given the GB release reputation frm LG i wudnt expect LG ICS anytime soon. They even postponed 2x ICS release
M not saying ICS development should stop or anything but lets get a feature rich GB rom first
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i want to have a stable miui, and i have used miui but i am interested the offical version because its stability. So i am looking forward to stable miui and ics! And the developers go on!!
Try cm9 and you will realise why everyone wants ics guys
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maybe i'm going to try just to get a first look..
but i rather wait for a stable release.
Hm, it is a very interesting question.
My experience is that in 99.9% of the devices the best rom is the _latest release_ of the _original operating system version_ which the device was released with. In our case it is Android 2.2 V10G in Europe.
(I had a lot of Android and other devices, and this rule of thumb usually worked.)
Yes, this rule doesn't lead you to the most feature-rich device, but you will get the most stable one with the least anger and frustration. And the reason for this is that this devices are _designed to_ run that OS. I saw so many upgrades that are criminal quality, if somebody tried Motorola Milestone 2.3, he/she will understand what I speak of.
Only exceptions are HTC devices.
'cause gingerbread (v20x) was planned for July 2011 and was released 6 month later (end of December, January for most countries). I think we can expect that ICS will be delayed too - at least 6 months extra, maybe never... For Optimus 2X, which was released in the same time of OB but upmarket, the ICS upgrade was recently delayed again (https://www.facebook.com/LGMobileSingapore/posts/10150750124007707).
Shortly: no ICS by volonteer dev here = maybe no ICS ever on OB
EDIT: here not her... I'm sure there are other mistakes too :/
indeed.. if i should guess, i would say that official ICS will never come to the OB.
Why?
Simple, In Europe it was introduced in May 2011.. Guessing the release of ICS will be delayed, it will be released when the OB is about or almost 2 years old..
That doesn't look like it will be profitable to me..
that's a lot of useless energy, better put into new devices..
I think the answer is pretty simple.
Devs have tweaked the hell out of Gingerbread on our devices and i'm not sure there is much ground that would be worth making.
So i assume developers want a challenge and have turned to ICS, MIUI and CM9.
I hardly think developers are porting these to our device just because the users 'want' it. As a developer myself (not android but C# et al.) I dive into these challenges to take my skills to new heights. In order to apply my skills and eventually share that with people.
Side Note: Mods should close this thread coz it has become another ICS discussion thread where people just give their opinions rather than make any new ground.
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We already have an ICS discussion thread, we don't need more.
Can this be done? The ROM would work like a charm on our phone. Seriously, the look with the speed and power would make many download it if it is ported! Hope that this ROM will be running on our OB one day!
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Can this be done? The ROM would work like a charm on our phone. Seriously, the look with the speed and power would make many download it if it is ported! Hope that this ROM will be running on our OB one day!
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Why do you want it? If you want the android look, take any ROM and you ll have it If you want the iTRASHbox look just look for themes of it, or take MIUI, it already looks pretty much like iOS I think.
There is a joyos rom for p970
$3nt fr0m my K4ng3d Ph0n3
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There is a joyos rom for p970
$3nt fr0m my K4ng3d Ph0n3
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I've used MIUI and JOY OS to the max and customised MIUI as well. I personally think this ROM has much accurate detailing and would appreciate Your help porting it. You may hate iOS; others may not. Its a matter of choice. So help if You want to or just leave it aside.
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I've used MIUI and JOY OS to the max and customised MIUI as well. I personally think this ROM has much accurate detailing and would appreciate Your help porting it. You may hate iOS; others may not. Its a matter of choice. So help if You want to or just leave it aside.
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It's possible to port, but I'm not going to do it.
Android isn't iOS, its better.
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I will try
Sometime
$3nt fr0m my K4ng3d Ph0n3
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It's possible to port, but I'm not going to do it.
Android isn't iOS, its better.
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I dont object what You say about Android, but many people around the world including me admire the elegant look of the iOS. Even though the parts of it are rip-offs of Android, yet they look beautiful and sleek. Just makin a point here.
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I will try
Sometime
$3nt fr0m my K4ng3d Ph0n3
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I wish I knew how to port ROMS. Anyways hope that You'd do it with interest! Thanks in advance!
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I dont object what You say about Android, but many people around the world including me admire the elegant look of the iOS. Even though the parts of it are rip-offs of Android, yet they look beautiful and sleek. Just makin a point here.
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Apple is good with UI there no arguing there ( some of androids stuff also come from iOS , they're both playing the game)
I still prefer Android's UI and after my exam finished I committed myself to quite a few other projects amongst them porting Flyme OS ( which looks AWESOME ).
If you want to work on porting a ROM or learn to start by learning the basics of android. Cooking,modding,fixing etc. In porting you need programming to fix some bugs and possibly to get it booting. Java is a easy language and has similar syntax to C/C++ and will make it slightly easier to learn later on ( You'll probably need to modify the kernel so you'll need C ) . Python is a really good language to start in since its very simply, straightforward and works on Windows and Linux since it's a interpreted language. ( Its my favorite language )
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Looking forward for your exams to finish. xD and good luck for them btw
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xonar_ said:
Apple is good with UI there no arguing there ( some of androids stuff also come from iOS , they're both playing the game)
I still prefer Android's UI and after my exam finished I committed myself to quite a few other projects amongst them porting Flyme OS ( which looks AWESOME ).
If you want to work on porting a ROM or learn to start by learning the basics of android. Cooking,modding,fixing etc. In porting you need programming to fix some bugs and possibly to get it booting. Java is a easy language and has similar syntax to C/C++ and will make it slightly easier to learn later on ( You'll probably need to modify the kernel so you'll need C ) . Python is a really good language to start in since its very simply, straightforward and works on Windows and Linux since it's a interpreted language. ( Its my favorite language )
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No dude! No coding or computer languages for me! I hope You have a change of mind and port this ROM for me
Another point. Is it possible to get the iOS style 4 digit unlock for MIUI or any other ROM? I guess its there in Gooapple ROM! Maybe atleast that can be ported right?