hi.
LG will release the offical ics rom for our ob in 3 4 mounths. after that, there will be a lot of ics mods (not ports.)
now i want to know, why the users want ics now? i think it is about only enthusiasm.
i like miui. i think a lot of users like miui too. i think if we have one stable miui, it will be perfect. because miui dont plan to release any rom to our device.
miui is more customizable than other roms. more smooth and useful with its settings and apps. and seems good. if you dont like miui launcher, you can install other launchers too...
if we have stable miui on 2.3.4 or stg else, it can be ported on ics after lg's release.
what do you think about?
one project should start to make miui or support The Frankestain and flatzki i think.
i am only a user. not developer. and you can say, ok by or you can laugh this topic. but it is what i think. and want to know what you think.
and i hope this topic will help developers to know what users want...
actually i'm not very familiar with Miui and don't know exactly what it is but ICS is the new Android version so it's not strange that users want it..
Mostly because it should be better i think but also just because it's new..
One thing i do know, if LG says it will release ICS at the end of this year it would probably be the beginning of next year!
I think you should forget that we have official ICS in 4 months..
Do you really think we will get ics at all?
I'm a miui user, too, but I'm glad that there are these amazing ics ports, because some users just hate miui and need the choice
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i also wan ICS badly. I even flash every ics ever released.
But we still dont have a stable cm7
N thr r many more features tht GB has but OB doesnt, so it will b much better if we have advanved GB rom with advanved features than an ICS port with minor errors.
Given the GB release reputation frm LG i wudnt expect LG ICS anytime soon. They even postponed 2x ICS release
M not saying ICS development should stop or anything but lets get a feature rich GB rom first
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i want to have a stable miui, and i have used miui but i am interested the offical version because its stability. So i am looking forward to stable miui and ics! And the developers go on!!
Try cm9 and you will realise why everyone wants ics guys
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maybe i'm going to try just to get a first look..
but i rather wait for a stable release.
Hm, it is a very interesting question.
My experience is that in 99.9% of the devices the best rom is the _latest release_ of the _original operating system version_ which the device was released with. In our case it is Android 2.2 V10G in Europe.
(I had a lot of Android and other devices, and this rule of thumb usually worked.)
Yes, this rule doesn't lead you to the most feature-rich device, but you will get the most stable one with the least anger and frustration. And the reason for this is that this devices are _designed to_ run that OS. I saw so many upgrades that are criminal quality, if somebody tried Motorola Milestone 2.3, he/she will understand what I speak of.
Only exceptions are HTC devices.
'cause gingerbread (v20x) was planned for July 2011 and was released 6 month later (end of December, January for most countries). I think we can expect that ICS will be delayed too - at least 6 months extra, maybe never... For Optimus 2X, which was released in the same time of OB but upmarket, the ICS upgrade was recently delayed again (https://www.facebook.com/LGMobileSingapore/posts/10150750124007707).
Shortly: no ICS by volonteer dev here = maybe no ICS ever on OB
EDIT: here not her... I'm sure there are other mistakes too :/
indeed.. if i should guess, i would say that official ICS will never come to the OB.
Why?
Simple, In Europe it was introduced in May 2011.. Guessing the release of ICS will be delayed, it will be released when the OB is about or almost 2 years old..
That doesn't look like it will be profitable to me..
that's a lot of useless energy, better put into new devices..
I think the answer is pretty simple.
Devs have tweaked the hell out of Gingerbread on our devices and i'm not sure there is much ground that would be worth making.
So i assume developers want a challenge and have turned to ICS, MIUI and CM9.
I hardly think developers are porting these to our device just because the users 'want' it. As a developer myself (not android but C# et al.) I dive into these challenges to take my skills to new heights. In order to apply my skills and eventually share that with people.
Side Note: Mods should close this thread coz it has become another ICS discussion thread where people just give their opinions rather than make any new ground.
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We already have an ICS discussion thread, we don't need more.
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Considering what to do...
Will the SGS ever have a stable build of ICS? Why can't devs work from the Nexus S build and create a stable ROM?
If this isn't possible, should I simply bite the bullet and grab a Nexus S?
I don't know what your level for "stable" is but my SGS has never been so awesome since I decided to try the ICS builds that are in the developers section. Both onecosmic's and teamhacksung are just incredible ROMs, better then every gingerbread ones I tried so far. Of course there are promlems here and there but nothing that our experienced devs won't ever fix!
To me the problem isn't the Nexus S or the Galaxy S, now the problem is 4.0.3...
Of course the porting requires a lot of work to our devs while porting a brand new ROM to another device...
Just wait a little bit,
and devs will resolve most of the issues..!
I advice you SGS all you life, because it has AMOLED display.
Cheers
bedo1987 said:
To me the problem isn't the Nexus S or the Galaxy S, now the problem is 4.0.3...
Of course the porting requires a lot of work to our devs while porting a brand new ROM to another device...
Just wait a little bit,
and devs will resolve most of the issues..!
I advice you SGS all you life, because it has AMOLED display.
Cheers
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By stable, I mean, everything working, all the features the phone was shipped with.
The Nexus S is AMOLED too isn't it?
With Nexus S i mean this--> Nexus S...
I don't think has AMOLED diplay...
ICS on SGS by the way isn't stable devs are working in the porting.
I've got a colleague with this phone and he received about 1 month ago via official update on the phone ICS...
He tell me all the tima it still have some bugs on that!!
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yeah
were on the same page actually, but now i have decided to stick with my SGS, why? well said bec. it has super Amoled, and the firmware updates and ROMs that is growing fast <--there will come a time soon that developers will finally release a stable ICS for SGS..i guess..
Why all the ICS for Samsung galaxy s i9000 don't wanna to be together if really together will be perfect phone and is the best for the best??
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When I heard that the first ics rom was being ported I was so excited, with all the new features, the user interface, I said finally were all going to look alike "One OS to rule them all" all android phones I mean, sadly every company had gone their separate way to make it theirs and that wasn't the intended, what I want to see is the stability of the iOS, plus the customized powers of the Android, let's just hope huh
BTW I am not saying it should be like the iOS, ui wise but battery, performance, and unity between devices, that's all
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Okay thanks hehe nice to meet you you from where. I from Singapore
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Personally I think ICS is overrated for I9000 at least...
Samsung should just implement TW4 to I9000 which has all those features without need of any extra hardware...
TW4 has all those capabilities such as MTP without need for phone to be locked etc.
why ICS
why ICS? Because it's better than Gingerbread simply.
couldnot send mms with darky rom (provider: fonic, germany). with team hacksungs build 14 it works.
ics is looking nice and i dont miss anything.
because I don't need Arabic/Persian/RTL fix. (ICS support RTL languages already)
ICS is faster than GB
No battery drain any more!
I feel really more stable in ICS (It's beta version and what's gone be Stable version, will be realy ROCK)
hey Samsung lock at me [LOL] I'm on ICS and this hard-wares working perfectly.
Thanks to teamhacksung/
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why ICS? Because it's better than Gingerbread simply.
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Agree 100% GGB has been terrible with every version.
What we're really looking for in ICS is hardware acceleration and general speed increase. I ultimately don't think samsung will be able to add an option "Force 2D acceleration" onto gingerbread.
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Agree 100% GGB has been terrible with every version.
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agreed, Froyo 2 versions (2.2.1) before being fast, stable and efficient. It took 6 Gingerbread versions (2.3.5) for android to not be a battery/resource hog, fast, stable and efficient.
Once I tried ICS, I don't want to be back to Gingerbread again, even if it means non official ROM's/some bugs. Pro's are more than con's
I'm from Puerto Rico
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ICS is very good but there are still bugs and some instability. If the developers fix them ICS will be very good for SGS
Yes definitely I can't wait... Literally I look at the forums every hour if not more often than that, I have a evo3d and I want the update already but I want it senseless I think for now maybe HTC makes ics with sense better who knows
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It's more aesthetically pleasing. :>
ICS has fast performing... battery life is fab.. I had GB and CM and today i use ICS.. And once u have ics u dont come back for sure... its like u have a new phone once u flash ics.. it really works amazing...
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Why?
Because it runs smoother, battery lasts longer, default font looks better, GMail client is better, uses less RAM than stock GB roms...
I'm on ICSSGS RC3.1 and it is already very stable for day to day use... I'm gonna use it until ICSSGS final is released and than flash it and wait for Jellybean
ICS is more refined. GB settings menu went on forever.
Flashed ICS on my SGS1 and never ever wanna go back to GB again, it's a better phone. Yea, there are still issues and bugs, but I'll live with them.
Can't wait for the official ICS for SGS2.
You guys are missing the point
I think you guys are misinterpreting OP's post. It sounds like he's asking why are there so many different versions of ICS rom.
Well for starters, you have the AOSP ICS rom, which is compiled from the ICS source code from Google. Then you have CM9 alpha, which is compiled from...well, cyanogen mod codes, which is a modified version of the ICS source code. Most if not all other ICS roms are based on the previous two roms with slightly different tweaks, kernels, etc.
P.S. For someone who came from Singapore, OP your English is just terrible. A quarter my family's in Singapore, so I can spend a good chunk of my time there.
What are these bugs I keep hearing about with ICS and CM? I'm currently trying to find a build of rom that doesn't have any issues, though through my vast searches and trials of roms I find there are bugs on most if not all the roms currently availible including the gingerbread roms, so i guess it's a case of whcich bugs can you live with..
Hi everyone, first I wanna say that Iam pretty bad speaking english but I ll do my best to this topic.
I just want to say that Im pretty happy with the community of OB cuz I have just 2 month with my OB and in that time there was just like 2, 3 ROMs available and those was little outdate... But right now we have 200% more than those days and they are pretty amazing ones
So all I have to say is keep that way and soon we even will have ICS in OB =P
Thx to:
- tantrums for his amazing Marvel Rom.
- gabwerkz for his amazing echelon ROM
- Huexxx for his amazing Zeus ROM
- achyut for his recent amazin ROM too
- re4lsk for his LFD ROM (I never try this but there is some pretty nice comm)
- TheFrankenstain for his work trying to port MIUI for our OB
And those dev that in his time work hard on our OB (I dont know exactly names cuz Im not that old on OB)
Edit:
This is my experience using those ROMs:
The first ROM I use was:
NOVA (Android 2.2)
This ROM is just excelent but is just a 2.2 Froyo ROM. I try this cuz when I buy my OB it came with that android version and that ROM was the original one plus a lot of tweaks!, I had no problem using this but I rly want to change to 2.3... so I found:
Zeus (Android 2.3.4)
At that moment it was at version 2.0 or similar, there we have an excellent ROM, no problems at all and great perfomance. I use this ROM long time without any Change, but there comming v3 and then 4 and I have bad experiences because SOD and when new version arrive I was wondering if t that will have no SODs and there I see still there for me... So, this ROM is excellent if you dont experiment any SOD (a lot of ppl havent but I do every time).
Then a lot of ROM born and I will not say in orden wich ROM I use (cuz I rly dont remember) but I ll say something about it.
Marvel
At it beggining it was just original ROM with a little tweaks, no so much difference, thats why I think this ROM wasnt rly a ROM, but then newest version arrive and it change a lot. I think this ROM is just perfect, great perfomance, no SOD for me, not problem at all... the reason I dont use this anymore is cuz "ICS UI". Im tired to see that UI at this momment...
Sapphire
I try this ROM less than a day because it UI, I just rly dont like, to much color and charge interface... I cant say anything usefull cuz I use this like 12 hours, it is smooth, great perfomance but thats it, I cant say anything else.
Echelon
This is my main ROM for my OB, I was a betatester of this ROM in an alpha version and it was just ammazing, then realease version arrive and a lot of ppl say that it was laggy, but I never experiment that, It is just rly smooth, great perfomance, amazing battery life (Im on 46% and it have 17hours of use with 3g on). I think you need to give a try to this ROM and if you dont experiment bad perfomance you will be happy with this =D
LFD
Like I say before, I never use this ROM... I remember now why I just dont... this is based on a "chinnese" ROM named Lezo and when that ROM arrive for our OB I give it a try and I was pretty dissapoined and when I see LFD was bassed on that, I just cant flash because my bad experience.... Maybe later I ll flash to give it a chance.
TMR
Well for this ROM I was a betatester too and I rly like the UI from MIUI, but there was a lot of problems at that time. Then It got new version and resolve a lot of problems. If you are a MIUI user, this is for you, there is a few problems yet, I experiment 2 random reboots, and the UI isnt smooth yet, but maybe some day will be a great ROM.
Noa
I never try this because Xperia UI, Im tired of that UI because I was xperia user and I just dont wanna see this anymore
CM7
Pretty nice but isnt stable yet.
I hope this can help you =P
+1
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+1 to all the roms but a (-1) to LFD ROM...
Congrats for the great work of all devs (including re4lsk ) and other users that contribute for this awesome community
I have been ghosting around for a while, now it's time to participate
Could this become a thread for people to discuss the different pros and cons of the several roms we now have? (or is there already a thread for that?)
It's becoming hard to decide and since not all of us have enough free time to test them all I believe it would be useful to have such a thread
lvlouro said:
Could this become a thread for people to discuss the different pros and cons of the several roms we now have? (or is there already a thread for that?)
It's becoming hard to decide and since not all of us have enough free time to test them all I believe it would be useful to have such a thread
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I can always give you my feedback about every ROM exist for OB, (except LFD, i was xperia user and I rly dont want to see anymore sony UI =P)
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I can always give you my feedback about every ROM exist for OB, (except LFD, i was xperia user and I rly dont want to see anymore sony UI =P)
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umm...i think ur wrong here...LFD is lezo based. "NOA" rom by DiederickC uses most of my SE ports to get a closer look to SE.
nd, i was a xperia user myself (but loved the SE UI )
Agreed to OP
Excellent work from devs on all roms available wright now, nice to see everybody is helping each other te improve their products.
I'm here now for a few weeks, looking for nice stuff for my OB.
So far i tested some great roms, right now i am on Zeus 5.03 lite. This one is nice stable en pretty fast.
Past 2 days i have been trying Echelon, with ups and downs. I have been reading in Echelon topic (to bad i can't post there yet)
This went in up and downs, first it ran laggy en got max 1500 on quadrant advanced, after a second install everything went very well and got 2000 on quadrant. but then after a few hours the lag came back for a unknown reason.
I don't know what the problem is, maybe it is a fault of myself.. i don't know
much reading and searching keeps me learning every day en coming a little further each day.
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umm...i think ur wrong here...LFD is lezo based. "NOA" rom by DiederickC uses most of my SE ports to get a closer look to SE.
nd, i was a xperia user myself (but loved the SE UI )
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Yeah, my mistake. I was confussed between LFD and Noa... thx for your comment
Well I think this thread can have my experience using that ROMs, so I'll edit first post and add that information there. Like everyone know the whole experiences is different for everyone, so take that informations as my opinion and no as a veredict
Thanks for the summary, it will be useful
I tried a lot of Custom ROMs in the last 6 months ..
The last 3 were:
-Echelon (stable, nice and simple UI, actually using),
-Marvel v4-v5-v6 (Pretty good and stable, until the last updates, Eats a lot of memory!!, so I changed)
-CM7 RC1 (Pretty Fast, very nice UI, but has a lot of bugs, too many reboots and freezzing, Can't wait for stable release)
Maybe put in a poll to see which rooms people prefer. Put the versions of the ROMs too eg. ZEUS v6 or marvel v6 etc.
Kudos
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I use Marvel A! It's the closest you can get to stock ROM for stability reason. Plus I have the option to remove all Bloatwares with Titanium Backup or Root Browser.
The advantage is "Peace of Mind" meaning I can finally use my phone as real phone releaving myself from endless flashing of new custom ROM bug updates everyday. When ICS comes out. I'll do the same method
I know this is asking a lot, but I thought I'd just request it and throw it out there. I'm not a proffessional developer or anything that's for sure, but I don't think it should be that hard to port ICS to the Thrill/O3D. The only reason it's not out already is because literally nobody has been working on it, and it's a little upsetting to me. And to be honest, I could care less if the 3D capibilities worked on the ROM or not. ICS for LG Nitro has been released on XDA I believe, I've seen a video of it. Wouldn't it be easy just to port that release onto the Thrill instead of starting from scratch and creating ICS for the Thrill? Plus, I love the new UI LG has came up with for it's ICS phones, and I believe that UI is included for the released update for the Nitro. I don't know, I'm just throwing this out there since nobody seems interested in it anymore, maybe I can get some developers out there working on it? It'd be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.
That would be cool I would like to see this
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I think they have to wait until the ICS source gets leaked or ICS official update for the LG Optimus 3D comes out.
Would be nice though.
cmarriner82 said:
I think they have to wait until the ICS source gets leaked or ICS official update for the LG Optimus 3D comes out.
Would be nice though.
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Theres always a way, just not enough developers on this forum.
well i just did a little research last night and found out that the only device (from like 7 phones) that has our chipset cpu/gpu and is running ICS is the samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0
and lg is suposed 2 release ics for o3d on 3Q this year... so lets wait?
Looks like the LG Spectrum is close to getting ICS. At least LG is trying to update something here in the U.S. at a respectable time:
http://phandroid.com/2012/05/28/ice-cream-sandwich-leaked-for-the-lg-spectrum-over-the-air-update-rolling-out-soon/
Maybe the O3D doesn't have enough hardware to run ICS. And I used a ported Prada rom before, it really was built on O3D's v21d, just the framework of Prada. In short a developer can only insert mods and packages on our (built for O3D) roms, you even have to flash LG's compatible baseband to get a custom rom running properly
And I do believe the 3DMax was built to run ICS instead of our O3D, it's probably the only purpose
Guys , do we have any updates on this thread?? I'm dying to upgrade android on my LG Thrill.
P.S. I have spent some time to find something.
Unfortunately couldn't find ANYTHING
Big Thanks in advance
ICS was ported a few weeks ago. It is compatible with your Thrill.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956347
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@da44050 So by your post signature, I assume you have applied the same updates to your Thrill (P925) as well? Thanks for the info btw!! Looks like i have my reading cut out for me.
Dear Community,
I know from your guidelines that starting threads or requesting updates on certain subjects is strictly prohibited but still I feel it necessary to ask
you that exact question (even if there's a ban only moment away..) because I don't like to be kept out in the dark and would like
someone from the development team to update their daily updates and how their work is progressing so that we who are
eager enough to get started may rest in piece instead of staying awake all night long looking for updates.
Remove thread, warn or ban.. I just need an answer to all this!
/a fellow pirate
Jelly bean in my eyes is just the same thing as ICS except the title has changed it's moved up 0.1 decimal and a lot of fixes. The UI should be the same as well. I also don't see anyone going to port it anytime soon because first of all we don't have full working ICS.
Second a lot of the roms we are using today and the kernels still have them bugs. And i'm pretty sure no one will bother porting it to x8 since it's 2 years old it's dieing out and there are new phones just a tiny bit more expensive then x8 that are 10x stronger e.g.nexus s. I love sony and all but they are a company whom which likes to start new projects and never work and update their old ones. Updating your phones you manufacture makes a good company oh and good customer service which sony already has
I think you have to wait for that one, or start making it yourself, but if you dont want to, just wait... meanwhile use another rom, there are great ones at the moment, and they are a vast improvement of what eclair was in the first place...
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Jelly bean in my eyes is just the same thing as ICS except the title has changed it's moved up 0.1 decimal and a lot of fixes. The UI should be the same as well. I also don't see anyone going to port it anytime soon because first of all we don't have full working ICS.
Second a lot of the roms we are using today and the kernels still have them bugs. And i'm pretty sure no one will bother porting it to x8 since it's 2 years old it's dieing out and there are new phones just a tiny bit more expensive then x8 that are 10x stronger e.g.nexus s. I love sony and all but they are a company whom which likes to start new projects and never work and update their old ones. Updating your phones you manufacture makes a good company oh and good customer service which sony already has
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It may be an older phone but still it does all what is required from an smartphone and moar..:good:
Steven87 said:
I think you have to wait for that one, or start making it yourself, but if you dont want to, just wait... meanwhile use another rom, there are great ones at the moment, and they are a vast improvement of what eclair was in the first place...
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I have run several ROMs such as GingerXperia (V14 - V23 - rV3) including 4.0.4 ICS which will do for now..:silly: