Considering what to do...
Will the SGS ever have a stable build of ICS? Why can't devs work from the Nexus S build and create a stable ROM?
If this isn't possible, should I simply bite the bullet and grab a Nexus S?
I don't know what your level for "stable" is but my SGS has never been so awesome since I decided to try the ICS builds that are in the developers section. Both onecosmic's and teamhacksung are just incredible ROMs, better then every gingerbread ones I tried so far. Of course there are promlems here and there but nothing that our experienced devs won't ever fix!
To me the problem isn't the Nexus S or the Galaxy S, now the problem is 4.0.3...
Of course the porting requires a lot of work to our devs while porting a brand new ROM to another device...
Just wait a little bit,
and devs will resolve most of the issues..!
I advice you SGS all you life, because it has AMOLED display.
Cheers
bedo1987 said:
To me the problem isn't the Nexus S or the Galaxy S, now the problem is 4.0.3...
Of course the porting requires a lot of work to our devs while porting a brand new ROM to another device...
Just wait a little bit,
and devs will resolve most of the issues..!
I advice you SGS all you life, because it has AMOLED display.
Cheers
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By stable, I mean, everything working, all the features the phone was shipped with.
The Nexus S is AMOLED too isn't it?
With Nexus S i mean this--> Nexus S...
I don't think has AMOLED diplay...
ICS on SGS by the way isn't stable devs are working in the porting.
I've got a colleague with this phone and he received about 1 month ago via official update on the phone ICS...
He tell me all the tima it still have some bugs on that!!
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yeah
were on the same page actually, but now i have decided to stick with my SGS, why? well said bec. it has super Amoled, and the firmware updates and ROMs that is growing fast <--there will come a time soon that developers will finally release a stable ICS for SGS..i guess..
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There was such a good selection on the desire.there appears to be such a limited selection on the galaxy s...none seem that good.
Can people recommend which is best and why? Looking for a fast and stable rom.
My rom is xxjm1 by the way.
Not yet, stock is still the most trouble free for now. Won't last long though.
Its my understand (and hopefullness) that most devs FroYo. Most (if not all) are just themed and optimized roms at the moment.
We want froyo !
Yes, most devs are waiting for froyo, just because everyone will want to upgrade, and there is just no justification to make a custom rom with 2.1 just for a few weeks.
Have you not tried SamSet? Dude there are about 4 different Custom ROMs on XDA :| how can you say there are no good ones as you haven't even tried any?
Devs are waiting for FroYo and Cyanogen Mod, that'll increase the ROM majority. The Desire has FroYo (Official) AND Cyanogen Mod, so there are tons of ROMs. Stock isn't the best atm, SamSets is the best for now.
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Have you not tried SamSet? Dude there are about 4 different Custom ROMs on XDA :| how can you say there are no good ones as you haven't even tried any?
Devs are waiting for FroYo and Cyanogen Mod, that'll increase the ROM majority. The Desire has FroYo (Official) AND Cyanogen Mod, so there are tons of ROMs. Stock isn't the best atm, SamSets is the best for now.
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first off, 4 roms is nothing.
Secondly, setzuna or whatever he is called produced a bog standard rom for the desire.
I want quality original roms. Hopefully asop pure roms like cyanogen.
The galaxy s roms are poop at the moment.
Really...
Desire has 6month head start, also helps when the desire is clone of nexus one which is reference dev gadget so what do you expect. Have look at other latest devices that came out in last 2 months and tell me if they even have roms yet, you have been spoilt.
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Agreed, ROM selection for the Hero (my last phone) were much better. I've tried HackEclair, Doc's StockRomMod and SamSet (currently the one I'm using).
From reading the forums, it really does look like all the devs are just waiting on the official Froyo release. I also read somewhere that the ROMs must be based off of official firmwares or else they won't work, which would make sense why it's difficult to get Sense-like interfaces on the phone.
Either way, it's only a few weeks - if that - until the official Froyo!
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first off, 4 roms is nothing.
Secondly, setzuna or whatever he is called produced a bog standard rom for the desire.
I want quality original roms. Hopefully asop pure roms like cyanogen.
The galaxy s roms are poop at the moment.
Really...
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Seriously? did you not even read my post at all?
you CAN'T produce a 'bog' standard ROM for the SGS yet, It's been done for the other Galaxy S version(s) (ASOP ROM) but that's in BETA stage and some features don't even work. We have to wait for Cyanogen.
If you really want 'quality' original ROMs make them yourself. The devs here do it in their free time and aren't doing this to tailor your every suit and need, and you don't pay them for it and they do it out of sole interest. SetENZA makes ROMs because he obviously enjoys it and the challenge, and shares it with the community, and you can't compare the SGS and Desire development, they're both entirely different and the SGS is newer, meaning the Desire has more backing.
How are they 'poop' if you haven't even tested a single custom ROM?
I agree that we need more development but seriously, if you are implying that no dev is making a good custom ROM at the moment then you are VERY wrong. SamSet is the most stable one for now, DocRambone is stripped entirely so check his ROMs out. You need to read up a bit more, we all know that there is slow ROM development and for a REASON.
Hurry up Sammy.
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Seriously? did you not even read my post at all?
you CAN'T produce a 'bog' standard ROM for the SGS yet, It's been done for the other Galaxy S version(s) (ASOP ROM) but that's in BETA stage and some features don't even work. We have to wait for Cyanogen.
If you really want 'quality' original ROMs make them yourself. The devs here do it in their free time and aren't doing this to tailor your every suit and need, and you don't pay them for it and they do it out of sole interest. SetENZA makes ROMs because he obviously enjoys it and the challenge, and shares it with the community, and you can't compare the SGS and Desire development, they're both entirely different and the SGS is newer, meaning the Desire has more backing.
How are they 'poop' if you haven't even tested a single custom ROM?
I agree that we need more development but seriously, if you are implying that no dev is making a good custom ROM at the moment then you are VERY wrong. SamSet is the most stable one for now, DocRambone is stripped entirely so check his ROMs out. You need to read up a bit more, we all know that there is slow ROM development and for a REASON.
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hi,
Please don't make these assumptions. I have tried a couple of the roms and am back to my original stock rom now because none of them seem better than it.
I also wasn't suggesting that people weren't making roms or that things won't get better. I am just disappointed its taking a long time. I had good 2.1 roms within a month of me having a desire, asop 2.2 within 2 months.
Anyhow, the roms have a long way to go it seems... They aren't the best at the moment but I'm sure they will be great soon enough.
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hi,
Please don't make these assumptions. I have tried a couple of the roms and am back to my original stock rom now because none of them seem better than it.
I also wasn't suggesting that people weren't making roms or that things won't get better. I am just disappointed its taking a long time. I had good 2.1 roms within a month of me having a desire, asop 2.2 within 2 months.
Anyhow, the roms have a long way to go it seems... They aren't the best at the moment but I'm sure they will be great soon enough.
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Okay, fair enough
Yeah but with patience we will see a fair share of ROMs in the next month, i guess these things take time, the Desire did get pretty popular though as it is HTC and Samsung is known for being crap with updates, but now the SGS is getting better and slowly it will overtake the Desire, i assure you.
Once Froyo is released, i think we can expect more than 4 ROMs
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Okay, fair enough
Yeah but with patience we will see a fair share of ROMs in the next month, i guess these things take time, the Desire did get pretty popular though as it is HTC and Samsung is known for being crap with updates, but now the SGS is getting better and slowly it will overtake the Desire, i assure you.
Once Froyo is released, i think we can expect more than 4 ROMs
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Impt point to note is when Froyo is released by Samsung, because Samsung is known for its delays and lack of enthusiasm, that we all take for granted from HTC =( I miss my HD2 and Desire
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Impt point to note is when Froyo is released by Samsung, because Samsung is known for its delays and lack of enthusiasm, that we all take for granted from HTC =( I miss my HD2 and Desire
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Disagreed.
Yes, Samsung has been crap in the past but with this phone they're pushing a lot out. We are yet to see how they respond to the Froyo update and how they maintain it, so you may be right, but i think that in this case Samsung will release it and *hopefully* maintain it, if not then XDA is here to maintain all phones, of course
HD2 has potential for Android as it's been ported, but WinMo is horrible and the Sense interface just makes it that little bit better, so glad i ditched WinMo for Android. Desire is awesome but the inferior screen and sensitivity made me get the SGS because the hardware is just that little bit better
The i9000 is a year old, (and still is the best android phone in most markets)
it came with android 2.1 , we got 2.2 , we will get 2.3 in , lets say about 1 month , wright when 2.4 will be released.
I think samsung will eventually release a 2.4 firmware maybe in june - july but then "ice cream" will be released
So what do you guys think , we will ever see "ice cream 3.x'' officially on the i9000 , or gingerbread will the the end of the line ?
Yes, i think we will, and if we dont, we will kick up a fuss and demand it from samsung lol
or we could just wait for someone to port it from another ROM, android hacking will never die !!!!
My guess is that 2.3, maybe with a patch or two, will be the last thing that Samsung does for the i9000. I don't think there is in their interest to support a phone older than 18 months, as they probably rely on statistics. And the statistics tells them that you and me probably have bought a new phone by then.
true i suppose.
If ice cream ever did come out for the SGS is probably wouldnt be for a while, and yea me and you probably would have a new phone, so we wouldnt be on the i9000 forums to find out if it was released.
but im happy with cyanogenMod, and as long as that always gets frequent updates, il stick to this til i get a new device
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Yes, i think we will, and if we dont, we will kick up a fuss and demand it from samsung lol
or we could just wait for someone to port it from another ROM, android hacking will never die !!!!
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Very True
Like any device the manufactures have to drop support from it at some point! I think we will see Android 2.3.3, which from ports does run smooth on this phone and then afterwards just the normal updates we see floating around for 2.2.1 etc..
Then again there are loads of adverts for the Galaxy S still on the TV so I suppose in reality we will just have to wait and see.
I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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How could they?they aren't developers(afaik) they both need a rom as a base if sammy doesn't release one they can't mod it.
Since there is a cyanogenmod projekt for the sgs now we will propably get updates for a while because it is based in many parts on nexus s source.
So if you make the jump to cm you will propably (if they make it to the mainline) see ice cream or whatever the next updates are called
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I think it will...
At least it has the necessary hardware to run it!
I don't think samsung will give up on the phone that increased their market! I mean 10 million units is not exatly a couple of phones...
And at the end of the day they are nothing like LG Those sad faces are still wondering about 2.3 for their Optimus 2x
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I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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Its Not really Better just the graphik a little bit thats all
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Android 2.3.x is the last for Gingerbread going to be released for the i9000.
However, due to the large numbers of i9000 devices within the market, and still being sold, Samsung have no option but to release an upgrade to Ice-Cream Sandwich (Android 4.x.x).
There will be no 2.4 for Android, it goes straight to 4 (Ice-Cream Sandwich).
Because Android cannot sustain development for both 2.x.x and 3.x.x concurrently, it makes sense to release the "co-op" version for both smartphones and tablets.
Rumour has it, this version will be released end of October, first for Samsung Nexus Prime.
So November seems to be a good enough guess for the rest to follow suite.
Note: if you don't like waiting for upgrades in your country, and your device is already a year old, just install/flash a stock ROM released for a different country (closest to yours...check GSMA for technology standards if you're really worried). Also, if there is a big difference in GSMA standards, you can still flash a ROM of your choice and then use your current Modem, e.g. flash JVR update on your phone, then flash the modem for previous working version for your country.
I am from India and it's bleak in a way. The android bug hasn't really caught on here. We are severely crippled. We did not get an official Nexus. We got the Galaxy S II, the prices of GT9000 have dropped. But still no one goes for it. People here are still caught up in the iphone bug. I think Samsung will pull the plug soon to make their other phones sell.
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Will love if i get ice cream sandwhich update
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I am beginnig to wonder if SGS really sucks that much compared to SGS2 or sensation maybe...
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HTC phones blow for battery life and signal. (Take it from someone who has been down that road many times with different OS)
THE SGS2 is zippier with the processor and RAM, but goes through the battery faster.
Your best bet is really one of two options:
Keep the SGS and grab a Samsung Armani battery. Its 1650mah (same physical size as stock) which makes up for any custom fast kernal battery loss versus stock.
Or
Get a Motorola Atrix which has the power of the SGS2 minus the screen but at least has the battery.
Unless you can wait a little while longer and see the ICS phones coming this fall for even more options...
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hi.
LG will release the offical ics rom for our ob in 3 4 mounths. after that, there will be a lot of ics mods (not ports.)
now i want to know, why the users want ics now? i think it is about only enthusiasm.
i like miui. i think a lot of users like miui too. i think if we have one stable miui, it will be perfect. because miui dont plan to release any rom to our device.
miui is more customizable than other roms. more smooth and useful with its settings and apps. and seems good. if you dont like miui launcher, you can install other launchers too...
if we have stable miui on 2.3.4 or stg else, it can be ported on ics after lg's release.
what do you think about?
one project should start to make miui or support The Frankestain and flatzki i think.
i am only a user. not developer. and you can say, ok by or you can laugh this topic. but it is what i think. and want to know what you think.
and i hope this topic will help developers to know what users want...
actually i'm not very familiar with Miui and don't know exactly what it is but ICS is the new Android version so it's not strange that users want it..
Mostly because it should be better i think but also just because it's new..
One thing i do know, if LG says it will release ICS at the end of this year it would probably be the beginning of next year!
I think you should forget that we have official ICS in 4 months..
Do you really think we will get ics at all?
I'm a miui user, too, but I'm glad that there are these amazing ics ports, because some users just hate miui and need the choice
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i also wan ICS badly. I even flash every ics ever released.
But we still dont have a stable cm7
N thr r many more features tht GB has but OB doesnt, so it will b much better if we have advanved GB rom with advanved features than an ICS port with minor errors.
Given the GB release reputation frm LG i wudnt expect LG ICS anytime soon. They even postponed 2x ICS release
M not saying ICS development should stop or anything but lets get a feature rich GB rom first
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i want to have a stable miui, and i have used miui but i am interested the offical version because its stability. So i am looking forward to stable miui and ics! And the developers go on!!
Try cm9 and you will realise why everyone wants ics guys
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maybe i'm going to try just to get a first look..
but i rather wait for a stable release.
Hm, it is a very interesting question.
My experience is that in 99.9% of the devices the best rom is the _latest release_ of the _original operating system version_ which the device was released with. In our case it is Android 2.2 V10G in Europe.
(I had a lot of Android and other devices, and this rule of thumb usually worked.)
Yes, this rule doesn't lead you to the most feature-rich device, but you will get the most stable one with the least anger and frustration. And the reason for this is that this devices are _designed to_ run that OS. I saw so many upgrades that are criminal quality, if somebody tried Motorola Milestone 2.3, he/she will understand what I speak of.
Only exceptions are HTC devices.
'cause gingerbread (v20x) was planned for July 2011 and was released 6 month later (end of December, January for most countries). I think we can expect that ICS will be delayed too - at least 6 months extra, maybe never... For Optimus 2X, which was released in the same time of OB but upmarket, the ICS upgrade was recently delayed again (https://www.facebook.com/LGMobileSingapore/posts/10150750124007707).
Shortly: no ICS by volonteer dev here = maybe no ICS ever on OB
EDIT: here not her... I'm sure there are other mistakes too :/
indeed.. if i should guess, i would say that official ICS will never come to the OB.
Why?
Simple, In Europe it was introduced in May 2011.. Guessing the release of ICS will be delayed, it will be released when the OB is about or almost 2 years old..
That doesn't look like it will be profitable to me..
that's a lot of useless energy, better put into new devices..
I think the answer is pretty simple.
Devs have tweaked the hell out of Gingerbread on our devices and i'm not sure there is much ground that would be worth making.
So i assume developers want a challenge and have turned to ICS, MIUI and CM9.
I hardly think developers are porting these to our device just because the users 'want' it. As a developer myself (not android but C# et al.) I dive into these challenges to take my skills to new heights. In order to apply my skills and eventually share that with people.
Side Note: Mods should close this thread coz it has become another ICS discussion thread where people just give their opinions rather than make any new ground.
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We already have an ICS discussion thread, we don't need more.
Galaxy s2 and s3 have all put their hands on the new 4.1.2 beta, waiting anxiously now for my i9305 international version. anyone has update on this? :fingers-crossed:
Doubt this will happen, they are just too different from what I remember in prior discussions.
We should have something pretty soon for our phones tbh.
On another note, I have been using it on my 9300 for a few days and it seems a great improvent, it is good on battery, there are lots of little improvements including the Samsung Keyboard where the word appears automatically as you type. Multi WIndow is great although not sure how much I will use it, still it is there if I want it!
Really looking forward to 4.1.2 coming over to the 9305.
I have played around with it. The only issue I am having is with the baseband and imei not being detected. Have tried a few things to fix it but am stuck at the moment with what else to try. Other than that it boots, has root and everything else works.
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I have played around with it. The only issue I am having is with the baseband and imei not being detected. Have tried a few things to fix it but am stuck at the moment with what else to try. Other than that it boots, has root and everything else works.
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Chiming in here to say that I have been working on this too. But you knew that from our discussions via PM.
I am wondering if we might be able to get the ball rolling further on this for our devices. There are considerable differences between these devices but that shouldn't stop us.:fingers-crossed:
On another note I am thinking the AOSP is the secret to bringing more popularity to this device seems alot of people are waiting for this and keep asking for this,,, So i am thinking of porting an AOSP rom for fun and chucking it in for a variety
mmm not sure about that, I think the new 4.1.2 features outweigh a AOSP release; MultiWindow probably beign the biggest so as soon as 4.1.2 hits here I think there will be some very happy people.
Personally, I use lots of the other features like Allshare Cast, Dual View etc... which I believe (not positive though) would be lost with an AOSP build.
Still happy to try it out is you manage to port it over!
yes i would not use the AOSP but CM has a MASSIVE fan base and so does AOSP... But I agree with you 4.1.2 is much better but even this version has now been merged with AOSP in the i9300 forum lool we need more devs here its too hard to keep up with little help
Devs or no Devs i am still very happy with this device and would not swap it back with the one i had before, which i gave to my mother as a gift But yehh If i really wanted too i can swap it .. But no thanks
Hi everybody,
I start to admire and thanks all devs and all the other PPL that make this forum one of the best if not the best all around.
I have a i9000 for about 3 years and what can i say about Roms... I honestly can say that i tried every single Roms in xda, and my opinion about it is that all are great, some with major and some with minor bugs.
Now i use SuperNexus 2.0 build 3 and i stopped here cause for my opinion its flawless. I cant find a bug, its stable and good battery.
One more big thanks for all you devs that work for awesome Roms.
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I've got my Galaxy S 3 weeks ago and this was the first time that I have ever attempted at flashing CR's. I've already got ahead and flashed over 30 ROMs onto it. I'm currently running Mackay's ROM and I have my phone overclocked to 1.2GHz. I've had a HTC One V before this and I really didn't like it. I must say, this community is great. Great support, great everything. I really want to thank all the devs for bringing out such awesome roms.