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All,
I currently own a T-Mobile Tab, and I just bought an AT&T Tab (outright, with no activated data service) with the intentions of selling the T-Mobile version because:
1. I am already an AT&T Customer for voice.
2. The T-Mobile network coverage in my market stinks.
My questions are along these lines:
1. I know I can put a ROM on the AT&T version which will enable phone use. But, if I install that ROM, will it also allow me to use the wap.cingular APN for internet access? I currently have the $45.00/mo "unlimited" BB plan on the SIM I would like to use in the AT&T Tab. With the stock ROM, it will not accept wap.cingular for the APN (believe me, I tried).
2. If #1 is entirely possible, is AT&T going to send me nastygrams via text because they know the IMEI of the TAB (it is theirs) and see the SIM mismatch? My whole point in doing this is having ONE device for phone and data. I am really not trying to cheat AT&T (although I don't think they deserve fair treatment) and if they offered a plan that would allow me voice on a tablet, I would consider it.
If this isn't possible, I will just abandon my efforts. It isn't worth the hassle if it isn't possible or realistic. I just would like to hear from someone who has done what I asked about above and if so, how is it working out for you?
Thanks, please advise.
-Rob
Yes, if you load the Euro ROM you will then be able to use wap.cingular. In fact, when I did so it already had the APN loaded and ready to select.
Regarding he second half, you are likely to get a nasty text from AT&T. I logged into my account and it showed that my currently active device was the Tab. The system spots it immediately, and if you are still under contract they'll probably nab you for it.
Try switching to the $45 4gb tethering plan. I am 2 weeks into the switch with no nastygrams.
I use my Tab as a phone and switch back and forth between my Captivate.
Not happy with the extra cost (was $30 unlimited data) however, after a long conversation with AT&T, they became very accommodating... helping make the cost easier to swallow.
I think that since the plan is for tethering, it IS IMEI agnostic, thus allowing you to use your data on any device.
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Thank you
Thank you both for your insights. Could I possibly ask one more favor?
I am a veteran of about a dozen android devices, and I have flashed and tinkered with all of them. So I am far from a newb when it comes to the command line, etc. I rooted my T-Mobile Tab, but that is as far as that went because that was last fall, and things were still very fragile at that point as far as I could tell. I didn't want a brick on my hands.
I have looked around the Tab forums, and I can't seem to find a concise guide on how to approach our AT&T Tab in terms of the exact ROM to use and how to flash it, etc.
- Is there a good and updated guide to this that is AT&T specific? If so, could you please direct me to it or explain to me the steps you took?
- What are you running today? Is there a proven path to go back to stock? Can I get some sort of a good nandroid backup from a recovery before I flash the Euro ROM so I can revert it? I found a link to a "stock" ROM from Rotohammer and downloaded it this afternoon, but that is as far as I took it thus far.
Once done, I am going to roll with my current $45 BB "unlimited" plan until I get a nastygram. I will switch then if my hand is forced. I would prefer to keep the BB plan on the off chance I someday decide to retreat to a BB phone in a moment of weakness...
Thanks, any info you can direct me to would be greatly appreciated.
-Rob
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929479
This is the thread that I used as my guide when flashing the Euro ROM. Pics and all, it's very helpful, and the flash went through rather fluidly and upon reboot, I could make calls and send text messages.
It felt a bit cumbersome using it as a phone, and the Euro ROM puts the home screen on the far left rather than centered (page 3) like the AT&T version, which irks my OCD need for symmetry. So I flashed back to stock per the instructions provided by Rotohammer several pages into the above referenced thread.
HOWEVER:
The provided stock firmware is a bit ****ed. When first powered on, there is no longer an AT&T splash screen, only the Galaxy Tab Samsung logo appears very briefly before the screen goes black, and remains black. There's no boot animation (though the boot music does play, and when it's fully booted you need to hit the power button twice to actually see your screen! After that point it's business as usual, but the lack of boot animation pisses me off and makes me wish I hadn't touched Odin. So be warned...you can go back to stock, but probably not back to former glory. I should have just stuck with my Tab as a tablet and my Aria as a phone. I'm hoping when the Gingerbread update comes out, it will fix the bootup issue.
I just flashed my ATT SGT to Overcome 2 Beta2 (Gingerbread) and it rocks. I'd go that route with the JK3 modem. No worries about missing splash screens, etc.
BTW, the BB data can be used on the SGT just fine. I was doing that until my company said to stop doing that
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robroy90 said:
All,
I currently own a T-Mobile Tab, and I just bought an AT&T Tab (outright, with no activated data service) with the intentions of selling the T-Mobile version because:
1. I am already an AT&T Customer for voice.
2. The T-Mobile network coverage in my market stinks.
-Rob
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Rob -
Have you now set this up, and are you getting voice and 3G data on the AT&T device without a "modem switch"?
I have a T-Mo Tab running OC Icarus, and I love it, but I only want one device. Don't use phone much, but need to have it available, and while I know many are using the Modem switch on T-Mo devices, it is just way too kludgy IMHO in this day and age to have to go thru reboot iterations to make calls.
I am thinking of buying a non-contract AT&T as you did, and getting a SIM from another carrier (Tru SIM) so I can use internationally and domestically. Since my "real" number is sitting on a depricated VZ winmo gadget now out of contract, Tru SIM will port numbers on new activation, and since I will be overseas in a month, I am trying for the "Holy Grail" - phone, 3G, int'l and Tab all on one device.
Any insight you can provide since making the "switch" to the AT&T Tab is most appreciated.
like the OP, want to have just one device instead of 2 (phone and tablet).
have the iphone4 on ATT with the $15 200MB data plan.
if i get the ATT SGT and use my iphone simcard on it for calls/txts/data, will ATT allow it? if not what would they want me to do? upgrade my plan?
You can use at&t iphone sim in your tab. At&t will force you to change your unlimited plan for a 4 gig data tethering plan.
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You can use at&t iphone sim in your tab. At&t will force you to change your unlimited plan for a 4 gig data tethering plan.
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dont have an unlimited data plan. have the 200MB $15/month data plan. can the 2GB $25/month data plan work on the GalTab for voice/sms/data?
dont really wanna upgrade to the 4GB $45/month plan. its way too much for my occasional use.
there a way to use the ATT GalTab for voice/sms/data with just the 200MB $15/month data plan?
TIA
jeraldyne
Yes, just put your sim card in the tab and reboot. But you will rip through the data allowance quickly. Overage charges will follow. I use a voice + 2gig data plan.
I have been using the 2gb/month data plan since Jan. No problems. There is a long thread about data plans on at&t. Go read it if you want. My summary: att doesn't like sim-swapping from an umlimited data plan that was started with purchase of some phones (I.e. iPhones bought with an unlimited plans). Any tiered data plan + SGT will probably be fine.
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thanks!! c",)
super valuable info!!
fwelland said:
I have been using the 2gb/month data plan since Jan. No problems. There is a long thread about data plans on at&t. Go read it if you want. My summary: att doesn't like sim-swapping from an umlimited data plan that was started with purchase of some phones (I.e. iPhones bought with an unlimited plans). Any tiered data plan + SGT will probably be fine.
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possible to point me to that thread? my search skills are kinda messed up today! c",)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000921
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Does anyone know if we will be able to utilize cellular data tethering using the HTC One developer edition on an unlimited AT&T plan? That could put the developer edition over the top for me compared to the subsidized device from AT&T. Thanks.
Its the same device, if its not in your contract that you can tether then no you can't without violating your contract.
There are various ways to tether if you wish to, but the device isn't going to magically trick at&t that you aren't tethering
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Its the same device, if its not in your contract that you can tether then no you can't without violating your contract.
There are various ways to tether if you wish to, but the device isn't going to magically trick at&t that you aren't tethering
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When I got the unlocked galaxy nexus tethering wasn't disabled like it has been on every subsidized android device I've owned. Wasn't sure if that was a nexus thing or an unlocked/unbranded device thing.
So does anyone know if tethering would be enabled or is it something that AT&T has the ability to block from the carrier end?
On the developer edition it should work without having to pay extra. AT&T branded phones have addition software that ties into your account to allow or disallow tethering. This won't have that software obviously.
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So does anyone know if tethering would be enabled or is it something that AT&T has the ability to block from the carrier end?
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It's likely that you will be able to tether, since the phone will not check with the carrier if the tethering feature is enabled. Regardless, AT&T will still notice that you are tethering, because they can differentiate packets originating from other devices. If you use a lot of data, even just a short tether will raise a flag and you'll get a text or a letter from AT&T, saying that they want to switch your unlimited plan to a capped one.
I bet HTC would or will be providing the dev imei's to att since they all are in bed with the useless carriers.
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It's likely that you will be able to tether, since the phone will not check with the carrier if the tethering feature is enabled. Regardless, AT&T will still notice that you are tethering, because they can differentiate packets originating from other devices. If you use a lot of data, even just a short tether will raise a flag and you'll get a text or a letter from AT&T, saying that they want to switch your unlimited plan to a capped one.
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I've literally been using tethering without paying for it on my unlimited plan for years by buying unlocked phones. They have never noticed. I don't go crazy with it though. I use around 500MB via tethering each month when I'm on the go and need to get some work done.
This is very good news if true. I'll be going with the dev edition.
I'm using a new plan they have called 'mobile share' and it has tethering included for free. I use so little data I went with the 1GB plan (I'm almost always on wifi) but an upgrade isn't terribly expensive.
I had been using a 550 minute, 300MB data plan with no texting for my wife and I but this new plan only costs $15 more and gives us unlimited calls and texting with free tethering on 1GB shared data.
Honestly, if ATT does it like VZW, they have a built-in "entitlement check" in the database of the phone that tells it to talk to the mobile carrier for authentication.
I'm not sure if this phone will try to handshake with ATT for verification, but if it doesn't that is a huge boost to people who'd normally have to pay for it or change plans.
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I bet HTC would or will be providing the dev imei's to att since they all are in bed with the useless carriers.
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Tethering has nothing to do with your IMEI. I've been tethering on a AT&T branded One X (purchased directly from AT&T) practically since it was released last May. The phone will tether properly with any custom or stock rooted ROM, except for AT&T based ROMs; and on the AT&T based ROMs, it will tether with the proper hack.
My bet is that the unlocked One will be able to tether out of the box. But we won't know for certain until the devices are delivered, and somebody tries it.
The other thing to note, as another mentioned, AT&T can (and does) check on the network side for tethering. The exact methods and policies are unknown to probably anyone outside AT&T. But from what folks on XDA suspect, is that if your network usage is high, it will put you under scrutiny by AT&T. They will then look at the data packets, and see you are tethering. They give you one warning by SMS, and if they catch you tethering again, they will add a tethering plan on your account.
However, the monitoring process seems far from consistent. A few XDA users have reported receiving the tethering warning, despite swearing up and down that they never tethering even once. On the other hand, as I mentioned, I've tethered occasionally for years, and never received a warning. But I only use it for limited times, and for limited data amounts. Typically only while traveling, in a hotel where WiFi is not available, WiFi signal is too crappy, or WiFi charge by the hotel is excessively expensive. And then, I usually only tether to down/upload work emails and files, then disconnect.
Keep your usage low, and stay under the radar (so to speak) and you may be okay. But there are no guarantees.
I will be moving to ATT by the end of the month, currently using the untether mod through exposed, working great. I was wondering if this method will work after I switch to ATT..searched around, but didnt see this anywhere recently discussed
KCJunkman
KCJunkman said:
I will be moving to ATT by the end of the month, currently using the untether mod through exposed, working great. I was wondering if this method will work after I switch to ATT..searched around, but didnt see this anywhere recently discussed
KCJunkman
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I have XT1053 DE with unlocked bootloader and rooted on AT&T GoPhone. I can confirm that built-in USB and WiFi tethering work fine but I only used them for a short while just to see that it works. I don't know if AT&T detects it and if it does - what it will do. I also don't know if postpaid AT&T any different.
KCJunkman said:
I will be moving to ATT by the end of the month, currently using the untether mod through exposed, working great. I was wondering if this method will work after I switch to ATT..searched around, but didnt see this anywhere recently discussed
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I read on another site that there is some sort of tether cloaker for ATT if you are rooted but I can't remember where I read it.
To tether on TMobile you need to be rooted? I'm switching over and would like to know before I do.
Well, I am on the unlimited plan, which started to come with a 2.5 gig hotspot. When I wasn't rooted, obviously my data rose on the hotspot when is tethered my iPad, but after rooting and using exposed etc. my hotspot data has stayed at .1 meg for that last 2 weeks
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I got a slap on the wrist from AT&T after I used tethering for about a week. I called them for something and they essentially said "if you keep doing that, we'll start charging you for a tethering plan."
AT&T Mobile Share plans have a bucket of data, and it can be used on the device or tethering ... doesn't matter how you use it.
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I got a slap on the wrist from AT&T after I used tethering for about a week. I called them for something and they essentially said "if you keep doing that, we'll start charging you for a tethering plan."
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do you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
Nope, at the time I had a 2gb data plan.
Hey guys im debating on switching from verizon because of there new plans are ridiculous im on m8 right now so I would probably want the m9. Im going to get the unlimited data plan and I was wondering how hard it is to get wifi tethering working I plan on rooting it first thing so are there any roms such as cynagen or google play I could just use. Also I was wondering if its difficult to root right now with the lollipop update.
I believe you still get tethering included in your plan. I have the unlimited data plan and I get 7gb of mobile hotspot included.
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Hey guys im debating on switching from verizon because of there new plans are ridiculous im on m8 right now so I would probably want the m9. Im going to get the unlimited data plan and I was wondering how hard it is to get wifi tethering working I plan on rooting it first thing so are there any roms such as cynagen or google play I could just use. Also I was wondering if its difficult to root right now with the lollipop update.
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I switched from vzw unlimited plan to tmo's unlimited plan about 2 months ago.
I am not very satisified with the service, yes you will get 5 gb free mobile hotspot (this can be bypassed by using pdanet usb tethering). If you go over 5gb they throttle your speed down.
Also if you go over 21 gb they "re-prioritize" your data as they call it (I call it throttling) which I think is BS.
Their data speeds suck in my area compared to vzw but not always the case depending on where you are, you can get some fast speeds.
Rooting is not an issue as you can unlock the bootloader from htc's site and flash twrp, and the supersu zip.
As far as Roms, just a few so far. Leedroids is about the best I have used but you may loose wifi calling and volte.
I would read up on their re-prioritizing before switching.
Hope this helps
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I switched from vzw unlimited plan to tmo's unlimited plan about 2 months ago.
I am not very satisified with the service, yes you will get 5 gb free mobile hotspot (this can be bypassed by using pdanet usb tethering). If you go over 5gb they throttle your speed down.
Also if you go over 21 gb they "re-prioritize" your data as they call it (I call it throttling) which I think is BS.
Their data speeds suck in my area compared to vzw but not always the case depending on where you are, you can get some fast speeds.
Rooting is not an issue as you can unlock the bootloader from htc's site and flash twrp, and the supersu zip.
As far as Roms, just a few so far. Leedroids is about the best I have used but you may loose wifi calling and volte.
I would read up on their re-prioritizing before switching.
Hope this helps
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Ive got only 3gigs on verizon right now so its not that big of an issue as long as they dont throttle you to 2g im good as far as service goes according the coverage map i have fair 4g at my house and its good everywhere else same with verizon. For tethering though can you use the roms built in wifi tethering option if you switch the apn because I cant stand pda net
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Ive got only 3gigs on verizon right now so its not that big of an issue as long as they dont throttle you to 2g im good as far as service goes according the coverage map i have fair 4g at my house and its good everywhere else same with verizon. For tethering though can you use the roms built in wifi tethering option if you switch the apn because I cant stand pda net
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Yes, you get 5gb of tethering (mobile hotspot) no need to switch apn,
I was asking if you can bypass that with the roms built in tethering if you have unlimited data instead of using pda net
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I was asking if you can bypass that with the roms built in tethering if you have unlimited data instead of using pda net
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No the built in hotspot only allows you 5gb of tethering, this limit cannot be bypassed with a custom Rom or like you can with Vzw (another reason I'm unhappy with tmo).
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I was asking if you can bypass that with the roms built in tethering if you have unlimited data instead of using pda net
I guess it would depend on how the tethering was implemented in the ROM you choose. If it does not use the TMobile apk/solution, then you likely would not have the 5GB limit. If it does, it will. How to tell...? Ask the people building the ROM(s). I will be using PDANet for tethering; it's simple, works fine, and 1 wire is not that big a deal to me.
I'm jumping to TMobile because my wife has an old plan that I can sneak in on that will give me everything I need (effectively unlimited/non-throttling UDP) for $100 LESS per month than Verizon. I've been with them since the days of Bell Atlantic, but I'm tired of the cost & tyranny on their phone choices. Will I have as good of coverage? Not likely, but for the areas I will be in, it's sufficient, so why waste the extra $100?
T-Mobile's recent tethering crackdown can detect pretty much every workaround so far, at least on Sense ROMs. Cyanogenmod has always given me unlimited tethering in the past, but I haven't tried it with this phone, and I can't risk them busting me again if it doesn't work. IIRC you get one warning, after that they drop you down to a capped data plan and you're permanently banned from unlimited. I've already gotten that warning, and I was tethering to an Android tablet through a VPN, with several deep-level tweaks to make it undetectable. The day after their crackdown announcement, I was tethering and I got a warning. I couldn't tether again until I wiped my phone and flashed a different rom before going back to the one I'd been on, to completely undo all of the tweaks. Now I'm back to 7GB of tether data. I wouldn't risk trying to circumvent it more than once if you get a warning.
I'm on an old grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan and I can tether using my current jailbroken iPhone but it's starting to die and I'm looking at the Note 8 as a replacement. I see a lot of info about the Verizon plans, but can anyone confirm that if I buy an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung that I'll still be able to tether on AT&T? I gather that pdanet/foxfi no longer works so I also wonder if there's a way to hide the tether usage, and/or if AT&T even still cares about this.
Thanks!
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I'm on an old grandfathered AT&T unlimited data plan and I can tether using my current jailbroken iPhone but it's starting to die and I'm looking at the Note 8 as a replacement. I see a lot of info about the Verizon plans, but can anyone confirm that if I buy an unlocked Note 8 from Samsung that I'll still be able to tether on AT&T? I gather that pdanet/foxfi no longer works so I also wonder if there's a way to hide the tether usage, and/or if AT&T even still cares about this.
Thanks!
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Not trying to get off Subject but I was facing the same thing when I was about to buy my S8+. I had the grandfathered plan (in some form) since my old Palm Treo 650 and hated the thought of losing it. Then ATT came out with a new unlimited plan that has a 10gb/month hotspot for each phone, free texting & calling in US, Canada, Mexico. So I asked my family if they wanted to all be on the same plan so we share the $100. Access fee and the rest is cheaper too. The whole plan is cheaper for me than it was with the "limited" grandfathered in plan (every year ATT had been raising the price of the grandfathered unltd but what could we do? Nothing!). Plus I have DirecTV & get a $25. monthly credit and $17.99 monthly credit for HBO. I think streaming DirecTV on their app is totally not going against data usage (which can slow after 22GB). This is what finally made me give up the old plan.
I could not find any reliable way to otherwise tether. I never did root though. Now I have the N8 and I use the hotspot all of the time but not enough to reach 10gb/month. I do not work for ATT! Lol.
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If you root it follow this thread. It will work. I bought a Verizon note 8 then switch to att sim. You will experience a little bug with phone calling. It will not place the country code leaving you with a number instead of contact name and volte and wifi calling will not work. You have to switch carriers on the phone using this method to fix everything:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
After that root it and follow these steps to enable wifi tether:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/enable-native-mobile-hotspot-galaxy-t3693784
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Not trying to get off Subject but I was facing the same thing when I was about to buy my S8+. I had the grandfathered plan (in some form) since my old Palm Treo 650 and hated the thought of losing it. Then ATT came out with a new unlimited plan that has a 10gb/month hotspot for each phone, free texting & calling in US, Canada, Mexico. So I asked my family if they wanted to all be on the same plan so we share the $100. Access fee and the rest is cheaper too. The whole plan is cheaper for me than it was with the "limited" grandfathered in plan (every year ATT had been raising the price of the grandfathered unltd but what could we do? Nothing!). Plus I have DirecTV & get a $25. monthly credit and $17.99 monthly credit for HBO. I think streaming DirecTV on their app is totally not going against data usage (which can slow after 22GB). This is what finally made me give up the old plan.
I could not find any reliable way to otherwise tether. I never did root though. Now I have the N8 and I use the hotspot all of the time but not enough to reach 10gb/month. I do not work for ATT! Lol.
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Thanks, I looked into it and it doesn't make financial sense for me yet, but I'm sure it will eventually.
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If you root it follow this thread. It will work. I bought a Verizon note 8 then switch to att sim. You will experience a little bug with phone calling. It will not place the country code leaving you with a number instead of contact name and volte and wifi calling will not work. You have to switch carriers on the phone using this method to fix everything:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...m-n950u-u1-t3685884/post74087340#post74087340
After that root it and follow these steps to enable wifi tether:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/how-to/enable-native-mobile-hotspot-galaxy-t3693784
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Thanks, I'm new here so bear with me.
I thought that since Verizon and AT&T use different networks, the phones were not interchangeable.
Is there a benefit to buying an unlocked Verizon phone as opposed to an unlocked AT&T phone?
Is rooting necessary? A number of people on here claim that using a factory unlocked phone allows them to tether W/O any modifications. Just trying to verify before I shell out $1k.
tomkiwi said:
Thanks, I looked into it and it doesn't make financial sense for me yet, but I'm sure it will eventually.
Thanks, I'm new here so bear with me.
I thought that since Verizon and AT&T use different networks, the phones were not interchangeable.
Is there a benefit to buying an unlocked Verizon phone as opposed to an unlocked AT&T phone?
Is rooting necessary? A number of people on here claim that using a factory unlocked phone allows them to tether W/O any modifications. Just trying to verify before I shell out $1k.
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just buy unlocked and u can use and tether on any network
you can tether with anyones plan; if you are crazy and use 100's of gigs, then you should pay your way instead of stealing bandwidth from those of us that pay for what we use