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I don’t know if it’s true but the guy at the Verizon store told me he heard the Bionic was being canceled and they were coming out with a better version with a 12MP cam, 1 GIG Ram, etc and it would be out in September now.
Don’t know if it’s true or old news.
That is the current rumor. The Bionic is being replaced with the Targa. No official confirmation from Moto or Verizon yet.
If and when confirmed I will need to buy an interim device from Craigslist to hold me over until the release of the new batch of dual core 4G phones are released.
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I wish there were more information about time lines. I am eligible for upgrade now. Nothing looks good at this point if this gets canceled. The Charge is single core ($300, WTF!), the Revolution rumors are going back and forth (dual/single core), the X2 doesn't have 4G, the Thunderdolt has a tiny battery and is a single core device... Targa in September? My DInc won't last that long. I might just upgrade to the DX on a one year contract. (Yes, I know the one year contract is unavailable to the masses...)
I called verizon and I'm not sure which rep you talked to, but they not only told me the rumor wasn't true, but they said reps shouldn't ever give a rumor like that unless it's confirmed. Then this popped up... http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Motorola-Droid-Bionic-Delayed-as-iPhone-5-Looms-229162/
It's delayed no canned.
this is great news, i wasn't looking forward to eating the 600 bionic cases i received 2 weeks ago! well great news would be a may release date, but this is at least good news.
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this is great news, i wasn't looking forward to eating the 600 bionic cases i received 2 weeks ago! well great news would be a may release date, but this is at least good news.
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Unfortunately you may not be out of the woods yet. In addition to "enhancements" the rumor mill also suggests an updated form factor.
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That is the current rumor. The Bionic is being replaced with the Targa. No official confirmation from Moto or Verizon yet.
If and when confirmed I will need to buy an interim device from Craigslist to hold me over until the release of the new batch of dual core 4G phones are released.
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this is true.
I bought a DInc from Craigslist. I have rooted and loaded CM7.0.2.1. It's running smooth with all day battery life on stock battery with moderate use, about 12 hours with 20% of battery left. This includes about 4 hours of Pandora use on 3G.
I can wait for the new Bionic now.
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The Bionic has been removed from the Motorola web site
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Home
Motorola has removed the Droid Bionic from their web site. Searching on the site will only lead you to the Mobile Phone Support site.
Hope to see the new Droid Bionic site up in the near future.
I was at the Verizon store today, and inquired about the Bionic. The guy there said it was being postponed because they're removing the dual core processor & going with single core, due to massive overheating that they couldn't find a workaround for.
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I was at the Verizon store today, and inquired about the Bionic. The guy there said it was being postponed because they're removing the dual core processor & going with single core, due to massive overheating that they couldn't find a workaround for.
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Though there was no specific information given about the changes being made other than the form factor, I highly doubt they'd do that. It's been the phone every is zeroed in on because of the Tegra 2 along side 4G.
Motorola's DROID BIONIC LTE smartphone, first announced at this year's International Consumer Electronics Show, will launch this summer with Verizon Wireless. Based on compelling feedback since the show, we are incorporating several enhancements to make this an even better consumer experience. This includes expanded features, functionality and an improved form factor.
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Source: http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-DROID-BIONIC-Fact-Sheet-353a.aspx
I highly their idea of an enhancement is a downgrade. The "Improved form factor" could mean they're using a different phone entirey(same features, obviously and hopefully more or "enhancements" wouldn't be the right word) because of issues they were having, as some have thought to have been heat issues before. There have been others saying that it resembled the HTC Thunderbolt too closely, which is true in a lot of ways, but nobody but the people working on the phone really know anything for sure. All we can do is speculate.
Motorola isn't going to drop to a single core processor. It'd be a bad move on their part to release a phone with such similar specs to, both, the Thunderbolt and Charge, which are both already out there. We all wanted the Bionic because it would blow the other Verizon phones out of the water in comparison.
On a personal note... they need to hurry up and get the Bionic out there so I can upgrade.. lol My Droid 1 is still nice and all, but my physical keyboard is done for... letters separated and glue not holding.. letters overlapping, making it hard to type without constantly pushing them back... lol I refuse to settle for less than upgrading to a phone of the Bionic's specs or better. A phone that is overkill now is a phone that'll still be decent when I upgrade again, is the way I look at it.
I ramble... sorry.. lol
This is true. It has been scraped for a better Moto Device. This device is to be released during the summer. So far they do not have alot of specs on it. I know a VZW employee and he could not give me a name of the Moto 4G device that is coming out but its this summer.
Well thats pretty dissapointing i was very much looking forward to atleast getting my hands on one, hopefully Motorola releases something better this summer
Wow I almost waited for the Bionic when I bought my Atrix because I was tired of AT&T. Then they kept pushing the bionic out and I finally caved and got the Atrix. By September I will be 1/3 of the way through my contract and maybe when this contract is up Verizon will have one I want. Sorry to hear it may be canceled.
one thing every one here seems to need to learn... PEOPLE AT THE VZW STORE ARE ****ING SALESMEN!
meaning, they will tell you whever lies they think you want to hear to try to get you to buy a new phone THAT DAY.
just saying they are always lieing to you to get sales... i see it happen all day at work. dont be a sucker. you're getter off geting info from sites liek this than sales associates.
There will still be a Droid Bionic, it just won't be quite what it was originally supposed to be. It will need a different case than what was originally going to need, so if you already bought cases, you will be out of luck. The problem is that other companies (Samsung) have announced better phones, with better screen since Motorola announced the Bionic. The Dual 1.2ghz is better than what Motorola had announced so they have to go back and fix that. After the long wait, they don't want to come out just to be second best.
What is this new form factor that is alluded to? I hope that it is shaped like the Atrix honestly.
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Alright, everyone.
My Atrix 2 just died on me. Well, didn't die, the screen cracked open, long story.
Basically, I need a new phone.
However, because the Atrix 2 STILL hasn't gotten ICS, I swore to never return to Motorola. Yeah, it's not 100% their fault that it's taking them so long, but seriously? It's become really annoying.
So I promised to ONLY buy Android products that have the word "Nexus" in their title, phones that get DIRECT updates from Google without wait and without alterations.
Problem is, I was gonna hold out on the Galaxy Nexus since I feel like a new one must be on the horizon.
Then I heard of the Atrix HD, which, like the other Atrixes (Atrice? Atrici?) has a very amazing starting price of $100.
And now Motorola mobile is owned by Google, right?
So, the TL;DR version of it is this:
Is this phone likely to see timely and consistent updates from Google? I know it just came out, but you guys are really great at what you do, so I'm wondering what your predictions are. Is this phone likely to see Jelly Bean at all in the near future?
I'd like to buy a phone that is future proof to AT LEAST Jelly Bean.
Thanks
The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.
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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.
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That can't be right. When the Atrix 4G launched it was the top of the line Motorola phone, the first dual core phone and won best of CES 2011. Anyway I'd have to agree with the previous poster it will eventually receive JB.
From my understanding, any device that runs ICS will be able to run JB
Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Agreed, coming from a RAZR (yesterday) I'm well aware of Moto's lag time in Android updates. I have to say, though, they did an awesome job with ICS... Took forever, but it's awesome!
I took the red pill... It's the mAtrix for me...
http://android-gz.com
Well hope its gonna be soon this time!!!cant wait for buttery smooth experience!!!
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I'm pretty happy with ICS, so I'm OK waiting a little while for JB. Motorola will probably release it in 6 months, then AT&T will delay it for 6-9 more...not that it's really OK, I wish updates were faster. They need to cut out the carrier-specific modifications!
My wife just today got the new Motorola Atrix HD. So far I think it is a very nice phone and hope she gets great service from it. I to hope that the Jelly Bean update is pushed out for this phone. Only time will tell.
According to this, the Motorola Defy will get JB and it's reasonable that the newest devices will too...
Jelly Bean for the MyTouch 4G Slide, Desire HD, and Motorola Defy
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Just noticed it's a ROM so I'm assuming this is specially made b/c of it unlocked? But here is another quote...
"These devices are all a little older than some would expect to be receiving ports. But if the HTC HD2 can get it, newer devices should be able to as well."
Motorola Defy is still running on an old modified Froyo kernel, seeing as how they never even got gingerbread.
Quarx ported Jellybean over, however.Motorola has long stopped during about the defy
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Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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The good news is that AT&T isn't forcing you onto the new shared data plans...yet. I figure they'll eventually decide to do that to keep up with Verizon, but for now they look a little better because of it.
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Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.
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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.
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Totally agree with you!!! i dont buy any thing form bestbuy anymore!!!
OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too
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OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too
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You strike me as someone who intends on modding ur phone, running roms and other mods or apps that require root so that makes the decision very easy, the GS3. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, root was gained before the phone was even released, the dev support is massive, aftermarket support is amazing, and JB is coming soon! Dont like the battery life? You can use a higher capacity battery if you choose. The camera is lovely! Especially since you're gonna be getting it for half off, that makes it a no brainer!
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Gadgetz.... thanks.. Actually your assumption is a little off base and that's due to me having been an iOS person for the past 4 years. And it's also the reason I'm drawn to Android, and even moreso after having watched the various vids about JB and Google Now.. simply amazing new version of Android.
So if I understand what you're saying, you're recommending I go with the GS3 for various reasons, regardless of me not liking the blue tint on AMOLED screens. And I can understand this to some degree. Also, when you install Nova I thought it only changed the look of the home pages and icons. Are you saying that it completely changes the UI including the notification bar where you can toggle on/off for Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, etc? Sorry, but I'm a noob. I do like the new garnet red color on the GS3 but all of them are fingerprint magnets as you know. What case and screen protector do you recommend? Already found a high end, class 10 32mb microSD for $35 on eBay.
http://androidandme.com/2013/03/new...devices-will-have-user-customizable-hardware/
Sounds promising. Updates from motorola? Not google? Stock android? Is google going to skin there own software. This would all make sense if its true. It kind of fits in the mold of the nexus program rumors but instead of any company making a nexus phone.... Motorola will build a custom phone for you. I wonder if this is there idea to kill the nexus phones completely.
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http://androidandme.com/2013/03/new...devices-will-have-user-customizable-hardware/
Sounds promising. Updates from motorola? Not google? Stock android? Is google going to skin there own software. This would all make sense if its true. It kind of fits in the mold of the nexus program rumors but instead of any company making a nexus phone.... Motorola will build a custom phone for you. I wonder if this is there idea to kill the nexus phones completely.
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Let`s hope it won`t be a bummer like the S4 and availability will be better and broader than with the N4
Well i just hope it can be upgraded... Id rather send it in to get more ram than have to buy a new phone
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This is insane if any of it is true
Hey check it out, a bunch of wild speculation and cold reading from Androidandme
So far all I know about the x phone is that the name has an x in it.
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I seriously doubt that both of these can be true:
1) The phone will be shown off at I/O in May and released in June.
2) It will replace the Nexus line.
It seems to me that the X Phone cannot do both of those. In the past, Google hasn't been quite as greedy with its Nexus line as OEMs are with their skinned lines. If the X Phone is to replace the Nexus line, it will not be available until ~October, around a year after the N4's release. To release a phone that is set to replace the Nexus line only a half-year after the N4 would not go over very well with most people. I don't think I am the only one disgusted by Samsung releasing the GS4 9-10 months after its GS3 release or the new rumor that HTC plans to abandon the Droid DNA in favor of the HTC One on Verizon (which I also think will ultimately turn out to be untrue).
Swap-able hardware? BS.
Or the device is gonna be huge. Memory/CPU/GPU are a SOC (System-on-a-chip), meaning the entire kit and caboodle is a single piece soldered to the board. Even IF they got a supplier to manufacture multiple SOC variations, it would end up being more expensive at the cheapest option than to just load it up with the highest end one available by default, thanks to tooling/bulk purchases.
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I seriously doubt that both of these can be true:
1) The phone will be shown off at I/O in May and released in June.
2) It will replace the Nexus line.
It seems to me that the X Phone cannot do both of those. In the past, Google hasn't been quite as greedy with its Nexus line as OEMs are with their skinned lines. If the X Phone is to replace the Nexus line, it will not be available until ~October, around a year after the N4's release. To release a phone that is set to replace the Nexus line only a half-year after the N4 would not go over very well with most people. I don't think I am the only one disgusted by Samsung releasing the GS4 9-10 months after its GS3 release or the new rumor that HTC plans to abandon the Droid DNA in favor of the HTC One on Verizon (which I also think will ultimately turn out to be untrue).
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Well most rumors say that it won't be announced at the i/o so both can be true. I don't see a new phone getting announced at any Google function. I believe that motorola will announce it on there own.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/13/4097778/motorola-google-phone-leak
Looks nice
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I don't see it coming out any time soon, and it better not because I just bought a Nexus 4
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Hey check it out, a bunch of wild speculation and cold reading from Androidandme
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Just to let you know this was the same site that leaked everything about the nexus 4 up until release date
Edit:here is another x phone leak
http://androidandme.com/2013/03/sma...one-and-its-going-to-level-the-playing-field/
Its really not hard to believe. Moto has the hardware capability.
If half of what I hear about the X-Phone is true, I'd be amazed. The more I read, the more I can't wait.
We are in a great and exciting time for smartphones!
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Sounds like a nerds wet dream lol
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Yep. That's all they know how to do. I usually immediately consider anything I read on that site to be false. Just a fantasy land over there.
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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Htc updates about as good as anyone else.
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really considering selling my note 2 for this phone...but i've had an HTC phone before, and i think they've developed a reputation for not releasing updates.
is there legitimacy to this repuation...or has HTC gotten better over the years?
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According to this article (and others like it I could not find right away) the reputation you speak of for HTC is not true. In terms up updating thier phones, HTC is the best of the major OEMs. Get a ONE!
... not to mention this is the first time (or first time in a while) we've seen them drop the same phone on many carriers, and tout a phone as their flagship for the year.
I feel like they'll be behind making this thing the best they can make it this year.
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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The best? No, but if you look at the facts, HTC is updating faster than Samsung based on statistics. So take that how you want to.
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Not to mention that Samsung only really updates their flagships and not the lower end phones. I just came over to One from an S3.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Also keep in mind Samsung's success has them being the top android manufacturer. They have a lot more money to hire developers than HTC. This allows them to keep up with their devices like they do. But Samsung used to be terrible before their success. HTC might become very competitive on updates as well. They're not bad now, but sprint did drag their feet with the Evo 3D.
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Indeed, with the One I think we're going to see big things for HTC over the next year. A unified phone being the biggest contributor to their increase sales. They did what the GS3 did originally but stepped up their game with a modern phone with modern specs. Competition is good for the two, it will make everyone else reach harder to stay on par and they'll compete for who has the better phone. I think when 5.0 is dropped most likely next month, both manufactures will be rushing to get it out, we can only hope that the carriers don't drop the ball.
I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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I think HTC has already stated that a 4.2.2 build is in the works and we'll get it soon. (Hopefully)
http://www.christianpost.com/news/htc-one-android-4-2-jellybean-update-to-arrive-in-2-months-92509/
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GS4 already comes with it
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GS4 already comes with it
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Then what are you doing here?
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Then what are you doing here?
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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As I stated above, I might be getting the One, so I check in here to look through and see what's going on with the device and everyone's use, before going ahead and buying.
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I know, was just poking some fun. I've had a Samsung Moment, LG Optimus One, then an HTC Evo 3D all on Sprint. I also follow smartphones/tablets and new technology in general daily (actually, part of my job sort of). What I've seen is Samsung sucked at updates until that had success with the Galaxy series, even the early Galaxy's were slow to get updates. The LG phones were lucky to get anything at all. HTC updated pretty well recently, except in the US. International HTC devices got updates pretty quickly and regularly, but Sprint was slow to do so. Sprint seems to have been slow about this in general just like every other carrier here in the US. Although, the Evo 3D was extremely late (almost a year later) to the ICS party. This update was promised to us pretty early and it started to feel like we'd never get it by the time it released. Then Sprint held it for testing I assume for a few more months. The Evo 3D users were suspecting Sprint was holding onto the ICS update to encourage people to buy their Boost Mobile variant of the phone as it released with ICS, was the same exact phone with a different name, and was supposed to attract people to Boost. Not sure if this is the real reason, it was a month or two after that phone launched the rest of us got ICS.
In either case, HTC wasn't bad about it, they weren't great but they weren't bad. Sprint, on the other hand, seems to have been slow and I know there are a number of reasons for this. They need to test everything before they launch it. Does it work on their network properly and with their bloatware? They have to prioritize their devices to test and they have to be thorough to ensure they aren't liable for anything going wrong. It's a crappy system, but thats how it is.
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GS4 already comes with it
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And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
I don't like holding this phone, and I can't overstate how much that informs the experience of using it. It makes an awful first impression, slippery and slimy and simply unpleasant in your hand. My white review unit is completely smooth and glossy, with a subtle checkered pattern that looks textured but is neither grippy nor textured anywhere on its body. Even the silver band around the sides, which is obviously supposed to look like metal, is plastic. Everyone I showed the GS4 to frowned and wrinkled their nose as if it smelled bad, before rubbing their fingers on the back of the phone and then handing it back to me — that's the opposite of the standard reaction to HTC’s One, which everyone wants to ogle and hold. That's going to be a huge problem for Samsung, because the GS4 and One are likely to be next to each other on store shelves, and at least on first impression there's absolutely no contest between the two.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
The best of all major OEM's?! Are you joking? Call me a Sammy fanboy all you want but there upgrading 2 year old phones still, and many, many others! I do NOT see HTC doing this. Samsung has way more phones out then HTC and still manages to do this. I honestly might be getting the One but by no means is HTC the best at updating.
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musclehead84 said:
I agree with HarryTipper. Sammy seems to be better at upgrading than HTC. They didn't used to be but they have stepped up their game in past two years. HTC took forever to update the 3d and the evo LTE as well.
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Hmmm Evo LTE came out June, was updated December. 6 months, only 2 months after Sprint released the update for the SG3. Sounds like its not HTC or Samsung but the carrier who is the culprit.
Now lets see. All the GS3's outside the US got upgraded to 4.1.2 in december. Has the GS3 been updated in the US yet? Nope, has it recieved the new samsung premium suite package that everyone else with the GS3 recieved? Nope. Hmmmmm....
If you actually looked at the link posted above, you can clearly see that there isn't much of a difference between Samsung and HTC as far as timely updates.
Harfainx said:
And it also comes with a creaky, terrible housing. Software versus hardware... Take your pick. One can be changed, the other can't. (Of course you can always put a solid case on it. My wife is probably going to get the GS4, so I won't speak too terribly about it, and I will by no means call it a bad phone... just poor build quality, especially compared to the One.)
If you haven't seen The Verge's review on it, check out the body response they gave.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/24/4257254/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
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I honestly don't care about what it's made of as long as it looks good, and performs good I'm fine. I am more of a specs and software kind of person. Although the one does have me pretty intrigued because I've never had a phone built as so, and I listen to music and watch a lot of videos so I know those speakers will come in handy. I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4. The only reason I'm hesitant is because I'm not a big fan of sense... nor am I a big fan of all the stuff you have to do to root the thing. Compared to Samsung phones, it's way more difficult.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
I'm going to give it a test drive, and if I don't like it, I'll just switch to the S4.
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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As much as I love the One, I was actually thinking the same. If the GS4 comes out and it's amazing, I'll simply switch over. The build quality is no competition, but like I said, you can always get a solid case. I would like a larger screen. If I could get my hands on a phone with 5.5" screen and current hardware, I would probably jump on it (LG Optimus G Pro, if it ever comes to Sprint?).
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If you want that, why not get the note 2? It's going to get a lot of the S4 features, and I wouldn't go with LG. The Optimus G has been out less then a year, and had 1 update and is already EOL.
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The US carrier variants will not be receiving the 4.3 update this month. While they haven't confirmed that it won't be receiving it this month, they said that ONLY THE DEVELOPER EDITION would be getting it this week.
http://phandroid.com/2013/09/23/android-43-htc-one-developer-edition/
What do you guys think?
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syed239 said:
The US carrier variants will not be receiving the 4.3 update this month. While they haven't confirmed that it won't be receiving it this month, they said that ONLY THE DEVELOPER EDITION would be getting it this week.
http://phandroid.com/2013/09/23/android-43-htc-one-developer-edition/
What do you guys think?
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I think they September fooled us they should of said that in the first place instead of getting people excited for 4.3 for this month. Guess we have to wait till the end of the year or probably next year lost hope for updates on this phone no 4.2 and probably not 4.3 either once 4.4 is released they would want to skip 4.3 a go for 4.4 who knows hahaa... this is just funny in my opinion :laugh:
I kinda figured it out that we weren't getting it because of the Max being released with it and it's bad marketing strategy to give it to an older phone at the same time. I'm estimating three months at least, sad to say. :'(
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Check out @jasonmacHTC's Tweet: https://twitter.com/JasonMacHTC/status/382228249151287296
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One mans opinion here. Bottom line, HTC and Sprint dont like us here at XDA. We take what they release and make it better and it pi$$es them off because it nakes em look bad.They know if they promise an update release that developement will slow down due to our devs waiting on that release. I dont think it has anythung to do with marketing strategies or anything else. The just hold back to keep us in limbo. Appreciate it or disguard it, its just my opinion.
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If you're going to announce an update, you best make damn sure you're releasing it on time. I can't believe I keep eating up this sh*t. Checking xda everyday... God, I wish I could use the next nexus on sprint...
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Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol
Why is it one of the most popular flagship devices is so far behind others and dated phones for updates in the U. S.
You can try and blame it on sprint but as it stands it's all carriers in US so I say the blame goes to HTC for dragging feet. Kitkat will be out before we see 4.3, great way to go on a flagship device HTC
On a flagship one would think they wouldn't skip other updates like 4.2, which would have made the transition to 4.3 seem less timely.
I hate it when company's announce releases and can't make the date, why announce if you know chances are slim? HTC can suck it!!!!
fr0st420 said:
Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol
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I'll go ahead and say that since they fooled us with "by the end of September" and then clarified on which version of the phone they were releasing it on, we probably won't see it until end of November, possibly December.
fr0st420 said:
Quick crying people. I'm sure it will be here soon. Not next year, not 3 months lol
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Ya it's odd people are pissed when they spend 700 on of the most popular phones and it see an updates 6 months after release and the new Kitkat gets released before the flagship phone. Especially with phone technology when 6-12 months and the phone is almost outdated anyways lol.
It's not like they announced by September's end for all us carriers by end of September. Am sure some purchased the one based on that statement too.
drlzanej said:
One mans opinion here. Bottom line, HTC and Sprint dont like us here at XDA. We take what they release and make it better and it pi$$es them off because it nakes em look bad.They know if they promise an update release that developement will slow down due to our devs waiting on that release. I dont think it has anythung to do with marketing strategies or anything else. The just hold back to keep us in limbo. Appreciate it or disguard it, its just my opinion.
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There's a little flaw in your reasoning though. The number of Sprint One owners on here deving or just unlocking and customizing thier phones is very small when compared to the number of GSM One users. They are worldwide. If HTC were so mad about the dev community then they would stick them without the update.
The number of people on XDA relative the number of people using phones is very small. Maybe 1% of total HTC One owners worldwide come onto XDA.
The total number of Ones sold worldwide is more than 5 million (as of May 2013). According to the XDA forum there are 2.5 million registered users on XDA and the most ever on at one time is just 95,000. That is people for all phone models. I always think it seems like everyone is flashing thier phone and playing around like me, but the reality is very few do it. Almost to the point that the OEMs don't pay a whole lot of attention to the dev community.
naturecannon said:
Ya it's odd people are pissed when they spend 700 on of the most popular phones and it see an updates 6 months after release and the new Kitkat gets released before the flagship phone. Especially with phone technology when 6-12 months and the phone is almost outdated anyways lol.
It's not like they announced by September's end for all us carriers by end of September. Am sure some purchased the one based on that statement too.
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Nature is spot on with his statement. Granted, I have patience, and I understand that I will have to wait longer, but coming on Twitter and saying they're working on getting certifications from carriers to release this update before the end of September, then tell us at the end of September that a non carrier branded One is getting the update is pretty much a slap in the face. And if they're waiting for certifications from ALL of the carriers before releasing it, that's just dumb as well. They should've been working on this a long time ago. We're on 4.1.2, and 4.4 is going to be released before we get it. This pretty much means that we will once again have a phone that DOES NOT have the latest version of Android.
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There's a little flaw in your reasoning though. The number of Sprint One owners on here deving or just unlocking and customizing thier phones is very small when compared to the number of GSM One users. They are worldwide. If HTC were so mad about the dev community then they would stick them without the update.
The number of people on XDA relative the number of people using phones is very small. Maybe 1% of total HTC One owners worldwide come onto XDA.
The total number of Ones sold worldwide is more than 5 million (as of May 2013). According to the XDA forum there are 2.5 million registered users on XDA and the most ever on at one time is just 95,000. That is people for all phone models. I always think it seems like everyone is flashing thier phone and playing around like me, but the reality is very few do it. Almost to the point that the OEMs don't pay a whole lot of attention to the dev community.
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Thank you for the input on that, very valid points you made there. I wasnt just speaking for the 0ne tho, i was refering to the community as a whole. I should probably been more distinct about that. Thanks
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I already said fk it and installed latest cm 10.2 nightly I don't care anymore lol
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Lets just hope for a port from the DE HTC One.
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I think HTC has more pressing matters right now with the Nokia patent infringement lawsuit. They have struggled to gain market share, and this certainly won't help.
eXplicit815 said:
Nature is spot on with his statement. Granted, I have patience, and I understand that I will have to wait longer, but coming on Twitter and saying they're working on getting certifications from carriers to release this update before the end of September, then tell us at the end of September that a non carrier branded One is getting the update is pretty much a slap in the face. And if they're waiting for certifications from ALL of the carriers before releasing it, that's just dumb as well. They should've been working on this a long time ago. We're on 4.1.2, and 4.4 is going to be released before we get it. This pretty much means that we will once again have a phone that DOES NOT have the latest version of Android.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45741479#post45741479
Irony. Basically calling someone a hypocrite for complaining about slow updates then assuming they would praise it once released, then turn around and complain about it yourself. You're awesome! :good::good:
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HTC may not give all everyone wants when they want it. I agree this sucks. I am as impatient as anyone. At least they don't make their phone turn off the camera if you unlock it like Sony does. Of all the major manufacturers isn't HTC the most liberal with their products? FYI ,some years ago I was told (in a phone conversation) by a VP of HTC that their engineers are on XDA every day. They know how we feel. Keep in mind that they sell phones not updates. They have to think with 5 million in sales the ONE will sell just like it is. Now they are making new models to sell. I saw the ONE on sale yesterday on Amazon for .01cent. Most people don't have an idea about software in their phones. Look at the idiots waiting in line all night for an I Phone when we know the ONE is a better phone. How many software updates does Apple put out in a year?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45741479#post45741479
Irony. Basically calling someone a hypocrite for complaining about slow updates then assuming they would praise it once released, then turn around and complain about it yourself. You're awesome! :good::good:
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I'm not complaining. I'm stating an opinion on the misleading statement. I have patience and can wait, that's not a problem. If you notice, the people who are really complaining are those who are saying "Well, this will be my last HTC device" or "Samsung, here I come." But as soon as they get the update, it's a 180. I'm staying with HTC regardless.
Im upset because the misleading statements that were made and because a HTC rep that comes in to work straight lied to my face. The phone is a amazing phone as is the update is just an extra I bought this phone as is and will continue to praise HTC for the good work they did but making empty promises won't get them ahead.
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