I have just noticed that the rubber on my charge port flap is loose from the flap on both long sides but still attached to the ends. I do not know if it is torn from the flap or unstuck. Does anyone else have this problem? I think my phone's water resistant capability has been compromised.
I've also noticed that the flaps for the charger port and the micro sd slot are made with a thinner and probably less durable rubber seal than the headphone and dim card flaps.
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I would send it to sony and buy myself a docking station
I've noticed with mine that the use port flap doesn't always close/seal first time as it pushes itself back out. Have to push it in a certain way before it stays closed, is going to go back via my network first as warranty is with them.
Something wrong with the flap either way for both of us
Yes docking station is ur best bet. I try to use my flaps as minimum as I can. Or if u use them a lot leave them open most of the time.
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Heres the backround on what i did to get wireless charging going...
1) get palm coil and touchstone. i bought this on ebay for 10$ (just search touchstone charging kit)
2) carefully remove the coil from the back cover of the palm phone. plastic cover first then the rest.
3) what worked easiest for me was to keep all the coil stuff stuck to the removable plastic piece holding everything together, then you can simply stick it in the back of our active covers. (make sure when moving the magnets all the positive sides are facing towards the dock)
4) Connecting it. I tried doing this a couple different ways and i eventually ended up pulling tiny copper wire out of computer speaker cable and used it like a twist tie on the phone terminals (then small amount of electrical tape to separate them...which worked out fine)*I attempted to do the same on the coil side of the connection but that was a bust so i ended up soldering it.. not my first choice but since its on the palm coil not my active I did it.*
5) you should be all good to go at this point
here are some pics too and of course if you some of mess your phone up...its not my fault
Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvO01b1CKBk
feel free to pm if ya got a question me... I am leaving the country tomorrow night for a week, but ill try to get back to ya
happy modding
in the picture with highlighting yellow goes to left phone terminal(positive) and brown goes to right teminal (negative)
bdgarel said:
Heres the backround on what i did to get wireless charging going...
1) get palm coil and touchstone. i bought this on ebay for 10$ (just search touchstone charging kit)
2) carefully remove the coil from the back cover of the palm phone. plastic cover first then the rest.
3) what worked easiest for me was to keep all the coil stuff stuck to the removable plastic piece holding everything together, then you can simply stick it in the back of our active covers. (make sure when moving the magnets all the positive sides are facing towards the dock)
4) Connecting it. I tried doing this a couple different ways and i eventually ended up pulling tiny copper wire out of computer speaker cable and used it like a twist tie on the phone terminals (then small amount of electrical tape to separate them...which worked out fine)*I attempted to do the same on the coil side of the connection but that was a bust so i ended up soldering it.. not my first choice but since its on the palm coil not my active I did it.*
5) you should be all good to go at this point
here are some pics too and of course if you some of mess your phone up...its not my fault
Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvO01b1CKBk
feel free to pm if ya got a question me... I am leaving the country tomorrow night for a week, but ill try to get back to ya
happy modding
in the picture with highlighting yellow goes to left phone terminal and brown goes to right
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This video seems very helpful with the process, just wish i knew which side was pos and which is neg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw1QIPwkZU
EDIT: i see the pics thank that helps!
joshuadjohnson22 said:
This video seems very helpful with the process, just wish i knew which side was pos and which is neg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw1QIPwkZU
EDIT: i see the pics thank that helps!
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Use a multimeter...if you dont know how, you probably shouldn't attempt this hack and should wait for an aftermarket back plate to come out
Out of curiosity, how strong are these magnets? Am I going to have to make sure that my phone gets nowhere near my credit cards (and other magnetic cards, media, etc.)?
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Out of curiosity, how strong are these magnets? Am I going to have to make sure that my phone gets nowhere near my credit cards (and other magnetic cards, media, etc.)?
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They are fairly strong but I have yet to have any issues with my cards...however I usually keep my phone in a separate pocket
Have you tested the phones waterproof capabilities since you did this mod? I love the idea, want to do it, but im on the fence, as it seems it would make it very easy to make the waterproofing gasket fail with a small wire.... on the other hand, you dont have to take the back off, or open the charging port, so if it doesn't void the waterproofing, it could be even better
Obviously, if any wire or any part of the wireless receiver protrudes over the seal, the water resistance will be compromised, but that's not the only issue.
In the back panel replacement sticker on the back of the S4A, it tells you to press under the camera LED. Pressing there engages the rubber seal. The issue is that any of these non-oem wireless receivers is going to slightly lift the central portion of the back away from the phone. Thus, even if no part of the seal-line is breached, I still wouldn't trust that the seal could engage fully.
Don't get me wrong... I'm going to do something similar, since I'd rather have wireless charging. Still... until an OEM wireless charging backplate comes from Samsung, I'd assume it's an either/or situation. Wireless charging OR water resistance.
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Obviously, if any wire or any part of the wireless receiver protrudes over the seal, the water resistance will be compromised, but that's not the only issue.
In the back panel replacement sticker on the back of the S4A, it tells you to press under the camera LED. Pressing there engages the rubber seal. The issue is that any of these non-oem wireless receivers is going to slightly lift the central portion of the back away from the phone. Thus, even if no part of the seal-line is breached, I still wouldn't trust that the seal could engage fully.
Don't get me wrong... I'm going to do something similar, since I'd rather have wireless charging. Still... until an OEM wireless charging backplate comes from Samsung, I'd assume it's an either/or situation. Wireless charging OR water resistance.
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I will fix the wire issue by using copper tape. I'm excited to try it...
I am doing this mod tonight and I thought I would share some information.
See below for the information I have gathered:
Yellow lines = Copper tape- as you can tell it gets very cramped around the end because of the gasket. I may need to use a different path or wires like the OP. The important stuff to gather from this is which is positive and which is negative on both the phone and the palm pre touchstone.
Nice idea, curious to see how this works out.
Update
My copper tape has not arrived but I installed everything else. It does appear that the coil makes the rear housing push out which leads me to believe it will not do well to repel water away from the seal during extended use but I would prefer wireless charging
If you plan on using a case I would recommend ordering stronger magnets from supermagnets.com part number Disc - D1046. These should work well with any case and it will fit more snug because they are a lot stronger. I will update with photos once the copper tape is installed and everything is working.
Am I missing something? Why doesn't the Samsung wireless charging kit work or the wireless receiver tags you can get for the S4 so you can use a Qi charger?
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Am I missing something? Why doesn't the Samsung wireless charging kit work or the wireless receiver tags you can get for the S4 so you can use a Qi charger?
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The battery door is different. In theory it will work but you would have to figure out a way to gut the back plate and that would be a lot harder than palm's touchstone mod. Or just wait for the active's wireless back plate to be released. This is a lot cheaper IMO $10 vs $30-150
Ya I just realized this. But still do you think the wireless charger receiver tag could work? If you search on Amazon or Ebay "Galaxy S4 wireless charging receiver tag" there's the component which is stuck inside the back cover Samsung is selling. Except it can be bought for $10-20 and most likely can fit in the Active. I don't know because I have the original S4 but just trying to throw out some ideas. In theory if the tag works you can get it for $15 then use any Qi charger and you're good. While not quite as cheap it's only a few bucks more and much easier and looks way better probably. That is if it works of course.
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Ya I just realized this. But still do you think the wireless charger receiver tag could work? If you search on Amazon or Ebay "Galaxy S4 wireless charging receiver tag" there's the component which is stuck inside the back cover Samsung is selling. Except it can be bought for $10-20 and most likely can fit in the Active. I don't know because I have the original S4 but just trying to throw out some ideas. In theory if the tag works you can get it for $15 then use any Qi charger and you're good. While not quite as cheap it's only a few bucks more and much easier and looks way better probably. That is if it works of course.
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that would probably work... if i understand it correctly...
That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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It probably will work but it will cost a lot more than this mod we are talking about. It will be a lot easier to install though
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That's the image of what I'm talking about. The official back plate you buy from Samsung is just the battery door with that tag glued on the inside of the door.
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I went ahead and order this 2, so we will see
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I went ahead and order this 2, so we will see
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Same here. Amazon. 14.99
jdminpdx said:
Same here. Amazon. 14.99
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I paid a little more because I wanted to get it this week. The cheaper ones come from China and may take a while. I now need a replacement back for my active, somehow with the palm mod one of my clips doesnt work any longer so under my volume rocker it is propped up. Excited to have wireless charging. Hopefully this week
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Under regular usage, my charging flap broke off. I went to T-Mobile and they said I would have to pay $175 to fix it! Anyone have an idea of how I can get it fixed, or will I just not be waterproof anymore
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Did you lose the flap? Or do you still have it? If you have it, did you just rip it out of the hole? Or did the piece that goes between the flap and the whole break? I've caught mine and pulled it out like 3 or 4 times, but I've always been able to get it back in with some effort.
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Did you lose the flap? Or do you still have it? If you have it, did you just rip it out of the hole? Or did the piece that goes between the flap and the whole break? I've caught mine and pulled it out like 3 or 4 times, but I've always been able to get it back in with some effort.
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I've seen others have this issue and say that calling Sony got them to send them a free replacement, only for the Z1s (not the Z1) though...
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Under regular usage, my charging flap broke off. I went to T-Mobile and they said I would have to pay $175 to fix it! Anyone have an idea of how I can get it fixed, or will I just not be waterproof anymore
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tough luck there mate,
TBH i wouldn't call that a charging port either that would be the micro usb port,
ive used it all but 4 times myself when i first rooted my phone,
u use a maglock charger or use the dock, as the usb port isnt made for everyday use
thats why they put the charging dock in the box when you buy it
it also charges faster through the dock/maglock than via the usb
id just push the port back in and get a maglock charger or use your dock
Not everyone got a free dock with their phone.
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Yup. I didn't get a dock with my Z1.
My flap also broke off. I bought the replacement for ~10$. Plastic part is still inside though. Since my glass on the back broke off I called service that is authorised by Sony (so I won't lose warranty for repair) and they put a reasonable price for back glass replacement. 250PLN. It's not crazy high, but isn't a 6pack. I asked how much will cost the replacing of the flap if I provide the replacement part along with the regular cost of the flap replacement and the woman on the phone said that that'll be free.
Ask about the price if you provide a replacement.
Wysłane z mojego C6903 przy użyciu Tapatalka
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-usb-data-micro-sd-sim-card-block-covers-replacement-parts-for-sony-xperia-z1-black
this can help you, some1 here bought it and even showed that they are waterproof too
I guess I'm getting a dock now. I have tmobile as well and if they charge for this kind of stuff, I'd rather just pay the $10 and get a dock.
I broke my flap as well..feel asleep on the phone while it was charging. Got a replacement from witrigs website.
However, a small piece of plastic was left inside and I used a pin to take it out..wasn't as easy as I thought...the hole is really small...and my pin wasn't as thin as I'd like.
Putting the replacement was easy..used the same pin to just push it in lol
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I broke my flap as well..feel asleep on the phone while it was charging. Got a replacement from witrigs website.
However, a small piece of plastic was left inside and I used a pin to take it out..wasn't as easy as I thought...the hole is really small...and my pin wasn't as thin as I'd like.
Putting the replacement was easy..used the same pin to just push it in lol
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How long did it take you to receive it?
My flap just broke off tonight, I plan to call Sony in the morning to order a replacement.. Just trying to see how long of a wait I'm looking at. My phone looks ugly on that side now, ugh.
I had a piece stuck in there just like you, had my wife get it out with a sewing pin (thanks to your advice).
Lesson learned, once Sony confirms they're sending me a replacement flap I plan to order the official Sony charging doc for the Z1 (everyone I've heard talking about it says it does indeed fit the Z1s) from their site.
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Hi guys.....i love my zr but really disappointed with absence of accessories for it.
There are qi charging pads and accepters on aliexpress for 10 bucks a set... NOT FOR OWR PHONES of course.
I can fit in one inside of the rubber seal area and connect it with small wires to the battery.....
The question is.....have anyone tryed it before?
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I wouldnt recommend forcing the pad under the battery door. If you look under there youll notice that the waterproofing works by letting the rubber gasket fall into a channel; if you add something thatll push the gasket away from the channel, it might be enough to let water in.
I actually just got my wireless charging pad for the Note 2 in the mail today. I'm planning to adapt it to my Xperia ZR but in a different way. I plan to put it between my phone and case, and connect it thru the docking connectors on the side of the phone. Ill update you with photos when im done if it comes out alright. Right now im just worried about how Im gonna get it to sit right without covering the flash.
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update pics when u r done.
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I wouldnt recommend forcing the pad under the battery door. If you look under there youll notice that the waterproofing works by letting the rubber gasket fall into a channel; if you add something thatll push the gasket away from the channel, it might be enough to let water in.
I actually just got my wireless charging pad for the Note 2 in the mail today. I'm planning to adapt it to my Xperia ZR but in a different way. I plan to put it between my phone and case, and connect it thru the docking connectors on the side of the phone. Ill update you with photos when im done if it comes out alright. Right now im just worried about how Im gonna get it to sit right without covering the flash.
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Plz UPDATE us when u complete this little project
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Plz UPDATE us when u complete this little project
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Okay heres my update: i did what i was planning to; unfortunately its not incredibly elegant.
I used a charging pad for note 2 which i bought on ebay. The copper tips i used as pins for the charging pad were a bit bigger than they should have been so my case is a little warped on that side. Also the pressure from the case makes the pins not have great contact with the phone so it takes little fidgeting to get it to start charging. Besides that though it works fine. I set it on the wireless charger at night and the phone is at 100% in the morning.
This weekend im gonna redo the soldering of the pins with some slightly smaller ones and see if i can make it... prettier.
The only thing to keep in mind is that +5v is the pin closest to the top of the phone and gnd is the bottom one. I also had to modify the charging pad to g3t the flap to come out higher up from the pad, otherwise I would have had to cover the flash.
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Yet another update. I tried to make it more elegant by reducing the thickness of the pins but to no avail. Doing this mod with a tpu (flexible plastic) case was a waste of time since theres no way to keep pressure on the pins and make the case sit flush.
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What about glueing the connector to the phone? With this solution no pressure from the plastic case is required I guess...
Is there any remedy or way to tighten the micro usb flap? It gets loose over time, except the jack, the jack for earphones is tightly covered whereas the Micro USB flap is getting loose overtime.. Im scared that it might soon be too lose that water would get in.
My question, is there any way to tighten/ secure it, or some piece of ornament to tighten things around it? Styrofoam of some sort idk.. or some adhesive to tighten it.. please help me out. This is for all of us.. thank you!
Not sure about tightening but you can use silicone paste to make it more waterproof.....also buy external dock to charge to avoid using use
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Is there any remedy or way to tighten the micro usb flap? It gets loose over time, except the jack, the jack for earphones is tightly covered whereas the Micro USB flap is getting loose overtime.. Im scared that it might soon be too lose that water would get in.
My question, is there any way to tighten/ secure it, or some piece of ornament to tighten things around it? Styrofoam of some sort idk.. or some adhesive to tighten it.. please help me out. This is for all of us.. thank you!
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No. I suggest you to get a new USB flap so that keep the phone waterproof.
Try cleaning the rubber. Make sure there is no dust or any dirt.
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I have a case on my phone, but I noticed recently the flap to the SD card and USB port isn't clicking shut. I mean, it'll click shut, but then it pushes itself out again. It's cheaper for me to replace the door than to get another $20 case that provides cover support to this port.
Which vendors sell the updated port cover that prevents this issue? I found one vendor, here: http://www.witrigs.com/oem-micro-sd-sim-usb-port-cover-flap-for-sony-xperia-z3-compact-black
Sony store sells it. In malaysia, it costs around us$7 for 1 flap
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I have a case on my phone, but I noticed recently the flap to the SD card and USB port isn't clicking shut. I mean, it'll click shut, but then it pushes itself out again. It's cheaper for me to replace the door than to get another $20 case that provides cover support to this port.
Which vendors sell the updated port cover that prevents this issue? I found one vendor, here: http://www.witrigs.com/oem-micro-sd-sim-usb-port-cover-flap-for-sony-xperia-z3-compact-black
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I've had to replace mine about 4 times now. The seal just doesn't cope if you open and close the flap a lot.
I get mine from Amazon. They're normally only a few bucks and come in a lot of different colours.
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I've had to replace mine about 4 times now. The seal just doesn't cope if you open and close the flap a lot.
I get mine from Amazon. They're normally only a few bucks and come in a lot of different colours.
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My z3c has the same issue. The rubber seal detached from the flap itself after some use and the loose piece (the rubber seal) prevented the cover from a complete close.
I blame Sony for not having a better design/quality considered it is the cover of the charging port. IMO, It should be able to sustain usage on a daily basis.
I'm looking into the possibility of gluing the rubber seal in place with rubber cement or contact cement. Replacement flaps cost around $5/pc. Would hate to replace flap every couple months.
I don't care for waterproofness anyway as I don't use it underwated, so I just peeled away the rubber seal from the flap and put the flap back in its place, the replacement costs here around 5€ if I'm right, but as of now, I don't need it.
If you need to use your phone underwater, then buy a replacement part, otherwise it can be used without seal.
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I don't care for waterproofness anyway as I don't use it underwated, so I just peeled away the rubber seal from the flap and put the flap back in its place, the replacement costs here around 5€ if I'm right, but as of now, I don't need it.
If you need to use your phone underwater, then buy a replacement part, otherwise it can be used without seal.
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You can buy them from eBay or Amazon at about 7 or 8 bucks a piece, of course don't expect it to hold up against water compared to the original one Sony put in it.