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anybody know is there a way to have my 3g/H /edge connection disabled when the screen is off like in the wifi sleep policy??
seems a bit of a waste having wifi set to sleep when screen is off if the 3g /edge connection becomes active.
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One of the main use of a smartphone is to receive emails and such while the screen is off. So the answer is no, but I guess you can find a 3rd party utility on the market that does it if you really want to.
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
zorxd said:
One of the main use of a smartphone is to receive emails and such while the screen is off. So the answer is no, but I guess you can find a 3rd party utility on the market that does it if you really want to.
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
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thx man. . i always thought 3g /h took more power!!
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I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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hmmm . . might try that
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Grizza666 said:
I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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looks like a good app. maybe just what Im looking for. thank you.
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If your life /phone usage would be better not receiving emails etc twenty four hours a day then control your phone to your needs the definition of smart is definitely not email day and night .
A Smartuser who does not depend upon receiving emails twits and facebook then use an App like Quick Settings to turn mobile data off when not needed .
You use the phone dont let it use you .
jje
JJEgan said:
If your life /phone usage would be better not receiving emails etc twenty four hours a day then control your phone to your needs the definition of smart is definitely not email day and night .
A Smartuser who does not depend upon receiving emails twits and facebook then use an App like Quick Settings to turn mobile data off when not needed .
You use the phone dont let it use you .
jje
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ya my thoughts exactly. id like data mode to be on only when the phone is active not 24/7.
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I use Tasker to turn of my data connection on screen off, then turn it on every 15 min for 1 min to allow checking for mails and stuff
Grizza666 said:
I use "Superpower" to switch between 3g and 2g when screen is off, but you can also let it disable data (and wifi) completely.
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this app is a great idea but did you find it slowed your phone down?? the minute i took it off again the phone sped up. ive got docs js3 and hardcores latest kernel with tweaks and lagfix on.
gonna try tasker now.
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zorxd said:
Wifi takes more power than EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA
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I'm almost certain it's the other way round!
XlAfbk said:
I use Tasker to turn of my data connection on screen off, then turn it on every 15 min for 1 min to allow checking for mails and stuff
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bloody hell. . i cant get this to work at all. sooo complicated. i aamt get past the priority part . going around circles now.
must i create one event for when screen off and then another event for when screen is on??
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ok managed to get profile set up for data to switch off when display is off and vice versa.
only thing is in the notifications bar it says 'no active profiles'??
how do i know he its working?
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you could add additional "Notify" events for testing, they'll have a timestamp indicating when the even fired.
My Tasks:
Event Display Off
Wait: 10 Seconds (in case it went off for inactivity but I'm still doing stuff)
Mobile Data: Off IF %SCREEN ~ off
Event Display On
Mobile Data: On
Clock From 0:00 every 15 min Till 23:59
Mobile Data: On
Clock From 0:01 every 15 min Till 00:00
Mobile Data: Off IF %SCREEN ~ off
cool. just set this up now. this app is unreal !!!!
thanks for that
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Pretty basic question which I couldn't seem to find the answer for...
If I set my bionic to "Maximum battery saver mode" will I still receive text messages instantly without looking at the phone first? In other words, are they part of "sync"?
This is the only thing holding me back from not using this profile. I do not need to be constantly receiving notifications for email/facebook.
Thanks
jayneo8 said:
Pretty basic question which I couldn't seem to find the answer for...
If I set my bionic to "Maximum battery saver mode" will I still receive text messages instantly without looking at the phone first? In other words, are they part of "sync"?
This is the only thing holding me back from not using this profile. I do not need to be constantly receiving notifications for email/facebook.
Thanks
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Your texts come in over your cellular signal, not data signal. You can have data off and you will still receive texts.
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H3Dude said:
Your texts come in over your cellular signal, not data signal. You can have data off and you will still receive texts.
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Thank You.
I have my battery saver set to max but i can never wake it up to use the internet without pulling the battery out. Does anyone know how to wake it up when you want to use the internet? Thank you.
sync is data as already mentioned. you don't need it for sms / mms
I'm talking about the 3g, not text messages. Thx
22cityboy said:
I have my battery saver set to max but i can never wake it up to use the internet without pulling the battery out. Does anyone know how to wake it up when you want to use the internet? Thank you.
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Mine automatically comes back after a couple minutes but I don't use Max. You can try using airplane mode for a few seconds; then turn it off. That reset's your radios. Otherwise just shutdown and reboot; you shouldn't have to pull the battery out.
Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
denis1304 said:
Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
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Settings - Screen - Set screen timeout to 30 minutes or something, It's not smart to keep 3G - Wifi online, as it will wake your phone from deep sleep and It won't even last 1 day like that.
You gotta find a kernel with no deep sleep support.Also why do you want your 3G to be on while screen is off? Thats nonsene.Most of the apps that use your 3G would keep your phone from locking the screen, so your phone wouldn't enter deepsleep and they could resume downloading.If you wanna save battery by locking the screen, just turn the brightness down.
Try to delete bloatwares, that increased my battery life from 1 day to 2 days, with moderate usage.Try using some different kernels also.
Whats your purpose locking the screen while 3G is on? WiFi hotspot or something?
denis1304 said:
Hello!
Would like to know how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
I have unlimited 3G plan so I don't care about data traffic and no mater what I do battery last 1 day, so I don't care about power saving.
Thank you, Denis
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by default, your 3g should stay on when you turn the screen off/lock it, if they're enabled. you only need to do some things if you DONT want it on when your screen is off.
ottomanhero said:
Also why do you want your 3G to be on while screen is off? Thats nonsene.
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Background services? Push notifications? It makes much sense (are you sure what you're talking about?). But on the other hand: if there are apps requiring network for such purposes, they usually take care themselves for this requesting corresponding wakelocks from time to time (background services). Just push notifications work differently, but here the core system should take care.
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Most of the apps that use your 3G would keep your phone from locking the screen,
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That's plain nonsense. Though they could do so (e.g. requesting a full wakelock), they usually don't. Want an example? Ever heard the chime for a new mail having arrived, as you set your mail client to poll at certain intervals? I've never seen the screen turning on for new mail polls. But admitted, I'm not constantly staring at the screen
ottomanhero said:
If you wanna save battery by locking the screen, just turn the brightness down.
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Guess you didn't read the question? Denis explicitly wrote: I don't care about power saving. So sorry, but you completely miss the point. No offense meant, thoug :angel:
Izzysoft said:
Background services? Push notifications? It makes much sense (are you sure what you're talking about?). But on the other hand: if there are apps requiring network for such purposes, they usually take care themselves for this requesting corresponding wakelocks from time to time (background services). Just push notifications work differently, but here the core system should take care.
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You wouldn't receive emails 24/7, turning 3G on once an hour or two is enough to check notifications.You wouldn't notice any notifications until you turn on the screen anyway.
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Guess you didn't read the question? Denis explicitly wrote: I don't care about power saving. So sorry, but you completely miss the point. No offense meant, thoug :angel:
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Nope, I just didn't get what he means.He should try to be more specific.His question is short and simple, no one can do anything without knowing what he is trying to do.Theres multiple solutions to a problem mostly and he is just focused on one of them.Keeping screen on 24/7 is not a solution.He should try to use third party apps, some should have options to notify him in some way, It's just nonsense to keep screen on 24/7.
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That's plain nonsense. Though they could do so (e.g. requesting a full wakelock), they usually don't. Want an example? Ever heard the chime for a new mail having arrived, as you set your mail client to poll at certain intervals? I've never seen the screen turning on for new mail polls. But admitted, I'm not constantly staring at the screen
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Thats a different story, I was talking about foreground apps, not background...
Also dude, waste your energy on helping the OP.Instead of commenting on others posts.
ottomanhero said:
You wouldn't receive emails 24/7, turning 3G on once an hour or two is enough to check notifications.You wouldn't notice any notifications until you turn on the screen anyway.
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Wrong again. I hear a chime (new mail notification sound), and then I maybe turn on the screen to look what it was.
ottomanhero said:
Keeping screen on 24/7 is not a solution.He should try to use third party apps, some should have options to notify him in some way, It's just nonsense to keep screen on 24/7.
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Again, that was not what he asked:
denis1304 said:
how can I set my LG Optimus 4X HD (with app or settings) so it is always on line while on 3G or WiFi even if I lock the phone?
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(emphasis mine). He didn't ask for the screen being on, but for the connection. While for 3G, to my knowledge that's the case anyway (as @Flying_Bear already pointed out), this is different for WiFi depending on the settings (WiFi standby policy).
@denis1304: In WiFi settings, you can configure this in the advanced menu.
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Also dude, waste your energy on helping the OP.Instead of commenting on others posts.
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No comment...
Hello again
Let me explain on example what's that I want from my phone if it's possible.
I use app MightyText or MySMS and while on WiFi it works instantly but if on 3G and phone screen is off for some time, sending SMS start to lag and you need to wait for 10 or 15 minutes for SMS to go through.
Or when I want to install app from my PC over play website its takes also 10 to 15 minutes to start installing app.
While on wifi it takes much less time or start instantly.
Hopefully I explained what I want so you can help me or I expect too much.
Thank you, Denis
While this won't help much: In both cases you mentioned, you are actively performing a task. So you could simply switch on the screen to speed up the action. I've no idea how to do that in a different way automatically, at the moment at least.
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Wrong again. I hear a chime (new mail notification sound), and then I maybe turn on the screen to look what it was.
Again, that was not what he asked:
(emphasis mine). He didn't ask for the screen being on, but for the connection. While for 3G, to my knowledge that's the case anyway (as @Flying_Bear already pointed out), this is different for WiFi depending on the settings (WiFi standby policy).
@denis1304: In WiFi settings, you can configure this in the advanced menu.
No comment...
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Nice quotes...
In both cases, turning on the screen and 3G once an hour is enough.
Turning the brightness down could save him from locking the screen, that was my point.
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Again, that was not what he asked:
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It is what he exactly asked.He wants his phone to keep 3G - Wifi online while screen is locked.So keeping the screen on wouldn't be a solution, and a third party app could help.
Well, good thing you actually tried to help OP with a few words.You could do that before instead of arguing with me.XDA is no such place, if your commenting on some troubleshooting topic, you should focus on OP.Correct anything I write wrong, BUT focus on OP's question first, thats your priority.
@denis1304
You should try JuiceDefender, I know it's actually a battery saver, but I remember it had some options to sync stuff even while screen is locked.You can set how often it syncs, or turns on the Wifi or 3G to perform such tasks.
Hi guys... Since updating to kitkat 4.4.4 I've been experiencing this annoying push notification delay on wifi.
Before 4.4.4, the android I used was 4.2.2, and the notification delay didn't occur. I suspect that this is a "feature" for saving battery when in deep sleep.
The delay may vary between 5s~1m. Depending on how long the device is sleep.
When the notifications are delayed, you can receive them inmediatly by just turning the screen on.
Things I've tried:
- Wifi power saving features disabled
- Stamina disabled
- Background data sync allowed
- Changing the prima drivers (at least just the 3 files inside system/etc/firmware/wlan/prima)
Somehow I cant change the .dat file because the wifi will not even connect)
- Router config
I've noticed the exact same behaviour in a zl with android 4.4.4 as well. BUT not present in Samsung devices (at least S3, S4 mini running 4.2.2)
REMEMBER: This problem is NOT present in android 4.2.2
Thx in advance!
I have this delay too.
Make sure the next option is disabled:
Settings -> Power Management -> Uncheck "Queue background data"
Profit.
luismedina said:
Make sure the next option is disabled:
Settings -> Power Management -> Uncheck "Queue background data"
Profit.
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When I say I've tryed everything, I mean it haha.
Nope, that doesn't fixed the issue
http://developer.sonymobile.com;;55651715 said:
Queuing background data will save power both on LTE and 3G networks, while for WiFi connections this functionality is not used.
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I know for sure that the majority of z1 user (or from the Z family, using latest android 4.4.4) aren't aware of this delay. When asking friends if they noticed the issue, they didn't knew about it until they tested it.
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Can I ask why it bothers you? It's a pretty insignificant delay, imo. I use pushbullet and it pushes to my phone almost instantly.
AnrgKrshn said:
Can I ask why it bothers you? It's a pretty insignificant delay, imo. I use pushbullet and it pushes to my phone almost instantly.
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Oh.. that delay is just when you just turned the screen off. If the phone is idle for, lets say, 15 minutes, the delay is bigger. Between 3 to 15 minutes! That's what bugs me. And what annoys me is the fact that this "delay" is not present in android 4.2.2.
Nevoet said:
Oh.. that delay is just when you just turned the screen off. If the phone is idle for, lets say, 15 minutes, the delay is bigger. Between 3 to 15 minutes! That's what bugs me. And what annoys me is the fact that this "delay" is not present in android 4.2.2.
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Can't say I've had that issue. Maybe I haven't left my phone idle for that long......
I have the same issue and it only occurs on wifi, not on mobile network. There's no delay on wifi or mobile network when the device is charging.
I disabled ARP offload and wifi power saving. The delays vary between 1-3 minutes since.
I'm not sure if there's a connection, but when you dial *#*#426#*#* you can open the Google Play Services monitor and check "Events". Even on wifi I receive the actual alert (for example facebook messenger) almost immediately, but the notification only occurs once there's a "Flushed GCM com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice". On wifi it takes a few minutes for this line to show. On mobile network you see it right after the alert happened.
Could that mean that the GCM service is somewhat slower/delayed in order to safe battery on wifi?
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I have the same issue and it only occurs on wifi, not on mobile network. There's no delay on wifi or mobile network when the device is charging.
I disabled ARP offload and wifi power saving. The delays vary between 1-3 minutes since.
I'm not sure if there's a connection, but when you dial *#*#426#*#* you can open the Google Play Services monitor and check "Events". Even on wifi I receive the actual alert (for example facebook messenger) almost immediately, but the notification only occurs once there's a "Flushed GCM com.google.android.gsf.gtalkservice". On wifi it takes a few minutes for this line to show. On mobile network you see it right after the alert happened.
Could that mean that the GCM service is somewhat slower/delayed in order to safe battery on wifi?
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That is EXACTLY what happens to me!
I can't understand why nobody cares about this (except andQlimax, who developed PNF). This is completely annoying... where is the "always connected" feature of a smartphone that delays notifications for so long?. For people that rely on this kind of features (partialy, like me) this is completely unnaceptable!!. What's the difference between 4.2.2 and 4.4.4 that makes this work like this??..
You can try "Push Notifications Fixer" from Play Store. I use the root version and works like charm!
Got a strange problem since the last few days. I didn't really change anything, but:
My data connection seems to drop completely, when the phone is in standby. No WhatsApp oder E-Mail Notifications are incoming anymore. When I unlock the phone, everything seems normal - no new messages - nothing. When i THEN open up e.g. WhatsApp, several new messages are coming through. Same with mail.
Tested it with a friend. He sent me several WhatsApp-Messages and Mails. Non of them get through when phone is in standby. When I unlock it and enter WhatsApp or Mail, the messages appear. While he was sending me messages in WhatsApp, the icon next to the message indicates, that HIS message goes out, but wasn't successfully delivered to my phone...
Searched through every bit of phone setting. Stamina is OFF, Data Connection is set to always enabled.
Am on latest official 6.0.1 from Sony.
HELP !!!
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Got a strange problem since the last few days. I didn't really change anything, but:
My data connection seems to drop completely, when the phone is in standby. No WhatsApp oder E-Mail Notifications are incoming anymore. When I unlock the phone, everything seems normal - no new messages - nothing. When i THEN open up e.g. WhatsApp, several new messages are coming through. Same with mail.
Tested it with a friend. He sent me several WhatsApp-Messages and Mails. Non of them get through when phone is in standby. When I unlock it and enter WhatsApp or Mail, the messages appear. While he was sending me messages in WhatsApp, the icon next to the message indicates, that HIS message goes out, but wasn't successfully delivered to my phone...
Searched through every bit of phone setting. Stamina is OFF, Data Connection is set to always enabled.
Am on latest official 6.0.1 from Sony.
HELP !!!
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I think doze is on by default in MM
Have you added WhatsApp, Email apks in the exclude doze ?
settings/battery/battery optimisation
click apps and add the apks you want to stay awake.
restart
Edit: also check wif settings: Keep wfi on during sleep = Always
I'm not connected to wifi...
Will check these settings - thx.
fattymcdirty said:
I'm not connected to wifi...
Will check these settings - thx.
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Any 'battery saver' apps?
Greenify or Amplify?
All of these can interfere with data while sleep is on
Got Greenify and Amplify. In Greenify, WhatsApp & E-Mail are excluded. Amplify has standard settings.
What's strage is indeed: got 2 EXACT same Z3C's... with the EXACT same configs. The one Z3C is working like a charme ... the other one got these problems..