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Google "X" Tablet

According to this article, Google is working on an X phone to compete againist Apple and Samsung, that will be released next year. And, also is working on an X tablet with a significant marketing budget. Looks like I'll have to hold off on the nexus 10. I doubt they will keep that name but I wouldn't mind owning an X tablet.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/22/us-google-xphone-idUSBRE8BL01B20121222?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologyNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtechnologyNews+%28Reuters+Technology+News%29

And today's Making **** Up award goes to.. . Reuters!

Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Asus Nexus 7, Samsung Nexus 10, LG Nexus 4...now, you tell me if you think this story has any substance.
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Nexus X?

"its Android mobile operating system competes with rivals such as Apple and Samsung."
Is it just me or this statement just doesn't make any sense? (The Samsung bit that is) . I'd rather see Samsung as a partner to Google / Android rather than a rival...
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cooldoud said:
"its Android mobile operating system competes with rivals such as Apple and Samsung."
Is it just me or this statement just doesn't make any sense? (The Samsung bit that is) . I'd rather see Samsung as a partner to Google / Android rather than a rival...
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Well what you rather see is fact.
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I hope they come up with 5.0 ^^
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From what I read in another article Google and Motorola are making a new X Super Phone you can check it out on the NVISION app on GPLAY it sounds great if they do I say it's about time being Google bought Moto a while back but it also said that it might not even run android something to do with the moto droid line but to me it doesn't make sense for Google not to run Android OS so who knows I guess stay tuned GOD BLESS YOU GUYS
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fushla said:
I hope they come up with 5.0 ^^
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I don't care what they number it. What they need to do this time around is actually test the software before they push it out to users. The bluetooth situation in 4.2.1 is awful and google should be embarrassed of it.

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I don't care what they number it. What they need to do this time around is actually test the software before they push it out to users. The bluetooth situation in 4.2.1 is awful and google should be embarrassed of it.
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Yes I totally agree at least slow things down just a bit because let's be for real 4.2 hasn't been all that great starting off with but maybe the next update will be AWESOME out of the gate GOD BLESS YOU
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Why is ROM development so slow for HTC phones?

I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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richyrocket said:
I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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lol! Cyanogenmod ROM comes first before stock ROM? Ain't believing it buddy
useful ROM = Stock ROM

Nono, the evo 3d has unofficial cyanogenmod at least 3 months after the epic 4g receives official. Two, unofficial AOSP roms seem to be more stable (and released earlier) on galaxy s devices than htc devices why is that? Both being flagships, what leaves htc behind in custom AOSP roms?
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My galaxy s would be on. 2.3, it is now on 4.2. The evo would be on 4.0 with outdated sense, it is now on 4.1. Nexus 7, stock 4.2. I use stock until the phone ages, and stock isn't good enough. I plan to have my next phone for 2 years, I might as well choose a phone that will stay current throughout those two years.
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HTC supports the flagship in every way possible, look at the One X. Even the newly released One is getting OTA at a crazy rate. And for custom rom developers, my Desire HD has fully stable 4.2.2 CM, AOKP and even paranoid. I hope this was helpful
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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richyrocket said:
I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I really think that the One is getting a huge developer community. Look at the android development thread. 4 ROMs already released (with tweaks) while only a few have got the device till now
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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richyrocket said:
I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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Some comparison videos on YouTube might help
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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richyrocket said:
Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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I've never owned a Samsung, but I've owned 2 HTCs, and my device is great in durability. I have this phone for about 2.5 years and I drop it around once every 3 days (obviously not intentionally) and it still runs good, no issues. For Samsung, you should read Samsung forums.
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Ohh ok I got it now. Unfortunately there's won't be any CM or AOSP ROMs until kernel source code is out. Thing is Stock kernel is not compatible with AOSP/CM ROMs and the other way around since both custom and stock has some functions added to the kernel for it to work.
And the thing here is samsung releases kernel source code earlier than HTC. So it really depends on the situation. And by the way samsung is not releasing opening up it's exynos to developers. And now that samsung implemented octa core & big little architecture on their new processors. I doubt they would be able to make a CM/AOSP ROM anytime soon on S4.

I know cm10.1 runs slow as heck on my wife's one x as a custom sense rom works smooth as butter. On my note 2 cm10.1 actually runs better than any touchwiz rom. My advice is to wait until there both out and go see them in person. Both phones will get a good bit of development.

Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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richyrocket said:
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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You don't need s-off to run aosp. You just need to unlock on htc dev or buy the dev edition one that htc will offer. But yes I'm sure in time we will get s-off for everyone. Lol.. I remember the wire trick, I used to own a rezound, horrid phone. No I just did s-off on my wife's new one x and its just a command line hack and software.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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I dunno as I've run aosp on a few htc's I've had and it ran fine.

Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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richyrocket said:
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Good question and I have no answer. My hopes is it will get a 4.2.2 update soon after launch.

I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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Doubt that, it's not unusual for phones to ship a version behind. But with the s4 shipping with the latest I'd hope htc will push an update ASAP.

Anyone waiting for nexus 5 while skipping N4, Sony Z, HTC one, S4 and anything else i

Taking about GN being a great phone with great Dev support. I am finding my self skipping two generations of android phone with out any regrets, namely s3 now to be s4, and nexus 4.
Anyone waiting for the Nexus5 before thinking about upgrading?
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here!
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Yes
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Let's wait for my phone to break, don't have the money to keep buying new phones.
If KLP lags on the gnex, i'm going back to ICS..

Me waiting for the next Nexus too. Currently I don't want to change, because I am more than happy with that
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Mach3.2 said:
Let's wait for my phone to break, don't have the money to keep buying new phones.
If KLP lags on the gnex, i'm going back to ICS..
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seriously? ICS was laggy as hell.
It depends on a screen size (and free funds to spend of course ). If the screen size is 5" or bigger I will consider N4 of HTC One.

Mach3.2 said:
Let's wait for my phone to break, don't have the money to keep buying new phones.
If KLP lags on the gnex, i'm going back to ICS..
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How about jellybean? That helped with almost all my ics lags.
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I agree I just traded my i9000 against a gnex and I am more than happy
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I hope the next nexus will be from HTC. Their build quality never disappoints. But for now I'll stick to my gnex..
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Never getting anything but nexus devices when it comes to android. I also skipped the nexus 4, imo upgrade wasn't worth it.
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And anyways, whatever new features are announced in KLP will be made for the next nexus in mind.

I am, however will depend if it comes to sprint. Have a great employee discount can't switch carriers
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Probably going to switch to the one this summer.
Really liking the design of that phone. The s4 just seems way too big for me and I would rather have a longer phone than a wider phone
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isinisterx said:
Probably going to switch to the one this summer.
Really liking the design of that phone. The s4 just seems way too big for me and I would rather have a longer phone than a wider phone
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The One will be my next phone if it comes to Verizon. I just want something with build quality like the One or iPhone.
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Here here....current galaxy nexus owner and future nexus owner. I have a sprint gnex and a nexus 7 and I hope sprint gets the 5. My wife has an I pad and an iPhone 5. Swear not because I own android but I think as far as development and hacking go, apple doesn't come close
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My upgrade is in September so I still have some time to go. If Google comes out with a vastly improved nexus without a recycled design from another device. By vastly improved I'm talking about Camera quality, LTE, full HD screen and battery life. Sure I'll go for the nexus 5 but if they don't improve all those than I'm going to contemplate jumping ship.
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Hmmmm...Nexus 5. If you'll note, the current nexus lineup are all named according to the display size. For Google to add a 4th nexus device to the lineup is unlikely (to much to manage), so the best guess is a refresh of the nexus 4, possibly by another manufacturer, and probably later in the year. What we can expect for I/O is a refresh on the nexus 7 (with the same name), and possibly a non-nexus device from Motorola that runs stock Android.
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Winesnob said:
Hmmmm...Nexus 5. If you'll note, the current nexus lineup are all named according to the display size. For Google to add a 4th nexus device to the lineup is unlikely (to much to manage), so the best guess is a refresh of the nexus 4, possibly by another manufacturer, and probably later in the year. What we can expect for I/O is a refresh on the nexus 7 (with the same name), and possibly a non-nexus device from Motorola that runs stock Android.
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I think we could expect a new phone as well. Considering that key lime pie is a major update, there is bound to be new features for phones not just tablets. So they will be probably need another device to show off the new features of the new build. I'm doubting they will use a nexus 4 as a demo device, its already fairly old news.
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msavic6 said:
I think we could expect a new phone as well. Considering that key lime pie is a major update, there is bound to be new features for phones not just tablets. So they will be probably need another device to show off the new features of the new build. I'm doubting they will use a nexus 4 as a demo device, its already fairly old news.
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Yea but they first launched jellybean on the gnex when it was already 8 months old at the time instead of bringing out a new phone to launch jellybean with.
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slayr76 said:
Yea but they first launched jellybean on the gnex when it was already 8 months old at the time instead of bringing out a new phone to launch jellybean with.
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Didn't they launch jellybean on the Nexus 7?

The updated version of Nexus 4 to come with LTE

The updated Nexus 4 will have LTE.. YAY actually even the actual Nexus 4 had the LTE chip right Anyway,the updated Nexus will launch in the upcoming g Google I/O event. http://www.naldotech.com/the-updated-version-of-nexus-4-to-come-with-lte/
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Yeah but it will be a nice addition with the same price so..
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Why do all the CDMA users get the good stuff? The CDMA GNex had 32gb while the GSM version was stuck with 16gb. Now they do it again with the N4?
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And what type of carriers could we expect to see this on? I don't think Google wants another Verizon and Sprint Nexus after what happened with the Galaxy Nexus
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Didn't Google drop official support for the cdma galaxy nexus leaving support for it solely on Verizon?
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It doesn't make sense to release unveil Android 5.0 with a Nexus 4.
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Didn't Google drop official support for the cdma galaxy nexus leaving support for it solely on Verizon?
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Looks like not
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so LTE coming with software update?

Can some one please tell me how exactly this is good news? That's like buying a car with small trunk space and weak transmission then the same car makers release the exact same car with more trunk space and stronger transmission. But here's the kicker: there's no recalls, so you bought the first car and now you're gonna spend money and but the better version of the SAME EXACT FREAKING CAR! Is there anyone else with common sense who gets what's going on or is XDA full of rich people that like throwing away money?
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Can some one please tell me how exactly this is good news? That's like buying a car with small trunk space and weak transmission then the same car makers release the exact same car with more trunk space and stronger transmission. But here's the kicker: there's no recalls, so you bought the first car and now you're gonna spend money and but the better version of the SAME EXACT FREAKING CAR! Is there anyone else with common sense who gets what's going on or is XDA full of rich people that like throwing away money?
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If they put a "S" after the Nexus 4 name, would that make you feel better?

Nice sarcasm but last time I checked, my phone was an android not an iphone

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Can some one please tell me how exactly this is good news? That's like buying a car with small trunk space and weak transmission then the same car makers release the exact same car with more trunk space and stronger transmission. But here's the kicker: there's no recalls, so you bought the first car and now you're gonna spend money and but the better version of the SAME EXACT FREAKING CAR! Is there anyone else with common sense who gets what's going on or is XDA full of rich people that like throwing away money?
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I want make a direct comment on this, but you're honestly not making much sense. That being said, I'll try my best:
People who bought the original Nexus 4 aren't also buying the new updated Nexus 4, it's more for the people who are on Verizon or Sprint, who are unable to use the Nexus 4 on that network. It's like releasing a European version of the car so that people in Europe can buy it, too, you know, with the steering wheel on the opposite side and fun stuff like that, keeping in line with the metaphor.
Not sure what you're referring to as the "weaker transmission" here either, but with regards to the "trunk space," no one was forced to buy the initial 16GB Nexus 4, as there was almost every other phone option out there with SD cards, etc. if you really cared about space. Plus, I feel most people like myself did know that a 32 GB Nexus was coming out months later during the I/O possibly, prior to buying the Nexus 4 as they did do this with the Galaxy Nexus as well.

I was under the impression that n4 already has lte you just have to activate it in the hidden menu or something like that.
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NeKr0MAtiK said:
I was under the impression that n4 already has lte you just have to activate it in the hidden menu or something like that.
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Yep,it had the chip but it couldn't be a activated
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Hey I'm just glad the Nexus 5 or whatever isn't replacing the current N4. Longevity...love it.

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Hey I'm just glad the Nexus 5 or whatever isn't replacing the current N4. Longevity...love it.
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Same here, got mine on launch day and to this date its the newest nexus and boy is it still fast
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Either I am misreading thread title or the content in the article as none of them state that this device will actually be launched:
"Looks like Google has heard users complaining so the company is rumored to unveil an updated Nexus 4 in its Google I/O event, which begins on May 15."
So as I see there's a word "rumour" which was also misspelled
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Wouldn't put any faith in a rumor read on "naldo tech" site. Never heard of it.

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Either I am misreading thread title or the content in the article as none of them state that this device will actually be launched:
"Looks like Google has heard users complaining so the company is rumored to unveil an updated Nexus 4 in its Google I/O event, which begins on May 15."
So as I see there's a word "rumour" which was also misspelled
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Rumor is the correct spelling in the U.S.
I'm with you, though. This isn't gospel until Google says it.

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Wouldn't put any faith in a rumor read on "naldo tech" site. Never heard of it.
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It has a source button at the end of the post in case you missed it
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JBQ leaves AOSP team :(

It sucks to hear such horrible news.
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/devices/new-nexus-7-may-not-get-factory-images-due-to-legal-issues-jbq-leaves-aosp-over-it/

yea :crying:
and hes a really nice guy too. i hope life treats him the very best.

Sad day for android and for open source community. :'(
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Google has to get things right or they are betraying themselves and the aosp community. How can they build a device without knowing about this before. Either they don't give a **** or are stupid.
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We are sure going to miss him.
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I am currently talking to JBQ via Twitter about the builds and somehow there is over 5 Android 4.3 builds.
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Can't Google just buy Qualcomm so we can put this to bed?

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Google has to get things right or they are betraying themselves and the aosp community. How can they build a device without knowing about this before. Either they don't give a **** or are stupid.
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They knew about this beforehand, they had issues getting the proprietary junk from Qualcomm for the N4. The sad part is there isn't really a viable competitor to the Snapdragon series that doesn't have the same problems.
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Scottyfer said:
They knew about this beforehand, they had issues getting the proprietary junk from Qualcomm for the N4. The sad part is there isn't really a viable competitor to the Snapdragon series that doesn't have the same problems.
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google lately not doing things right

Could you please explain to a n00b like me, why & what is this all about?
Thanks.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/07/aosp-maintenance-head-leaves-role-in-wake-of-open-source-issues/

He seemed to really care, sucks to see him go

So what's probably behind this thing? that Qualcomm is unable to provide working software to their hardware?

Basically Qualcomm not providing the GPU drivers.
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The Adreno is a Qualcomm brand, though. I wouldn't expect ATI-AMD to release a new driver for my GTX 660.

It looks like JBQ implied that the reason is similar to whatever caused Google to remove the Nexus 4 images back in December. Back then, it was rumored to be due to Nexus 4 having the LTE option before it was removed. We know an LTE-enabled Nexus 7 is coming, so it could be related to that as well.

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Basically Qualcomm not providing the GPU drivers.
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There are two sides to every story. Bear in mind this is also the individual that is responsible for the botched release of Android 4.3 for the Nexus 4.
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There are two sides to every story. Bear in mind this is also the individual that is responsible for the botched release of Android 4.3 for the Nexus 4.
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Botched?
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He's probably referring to JWR build instead of JSS.

It is pretty sad when the lead of AOSP feels forced to go because of all the BS legal wrangling.
And frankly, shame on Google for not getting this worked out YET AGAIN before launching a device. The whole point of the nexus line is a showcase for developers, and if the developers can't get the access to the files to restore their devices, then that point becomes moot.

Bummer for all...