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i was thinking on rooting my nexus one phone but i have this question to determine if i should or not.... my question is am if i root my nexus one with cyanogen rom or desire rom... am i able to get ota updates stll if so how...and is there a way to unroot a nexus one yet?????????
This has been ask many times before but to get to the point. Cyanogen and other developers that work on the roms will included any updates that will improve the user experience. Most of the time the updates will happen before the ota comes out. If you want the options to customize the phone beyond the normal apps and performance improvement then root. Rooting is not for everyone so please do your homework if this is your first time.
well reason i ask is because i heard even if u root the phone and then decide to put an official rom then u can then received ota roms is this not true or??
No. This is a general answer. If a update is done the developer will included it in his build. All you do then is flash the updated version of the rom.
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
zwitter said:
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
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There won't be any more updates from HTC that's for sure. I mean I once read that HTC plans on stopping the One X after 4.2.2. I think HTC was already extremely generous to give us 4.0.4. Besides, Sense 3.6 is the crappy version of Sense 4 anyways and Sense 4 looks nicer in almost every aspect in my opinion.
Rooting is as basic unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com and flashing a custom recovery. However, you will notice that some people have something called S-OFF. Unlike just unlocking the bootloader (which still leaves S-ON), S-OFF grants you permission to certain parts of a particular partition (which I don't seem to remember but what I say here should be enough) and in that way, you do not need to flash the boot.img within each custom ROM (which is probably, the biggest limitation of leaving your phone at S-ON). This is quite a bit to swallow but you'll understand more as you go along rooting and flashing custom ROM plus a bit of Google searching on the side.
As for guides, look at the top of the General Section (you're in it right now!) and everything that's labelled [GUIDE] should be good to use.
To answer the last question, yes it is possible to root the phone and leaving everything as is although there is absolutely no point in doing so. Unlocking the bootloader WILL WIPE your phone clean (ie game data, sms, call logs.....). It would be best to just start fresh. If you are so intent on staying on Sense 3.6, then I would recommend you to either Android Revolution HD or Blackout ROM which you can find more information on in the Android Development section.
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There won't be any more updates from HTC that's for sure. I mean I once read that HTC plans on stopping the One X after 4.2.2. I think HTC was already extremely generous to give us 4.0.4. Besides, Sense 3.6 is the crappy version of Sense 4 anyways and Sense 4 looks nicer in almost every aspect in my opinion.
Rooting is as basic unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev.com and flashing a custom recovery. However, you will notice that some people have something called S-OFF. Unlike just unlocking the bootloader (which still leaves S-ON), S-OFF grants you permission to certain parts of a particular partition (which I don't seem to remember but what I say here should be enough) and in that way, you do not need to flash the boot.img within each custom ROM (which is probably, the biggest limitation of leaving your phone at S-ON). This is quite a bit to swallow but you'll understand more as you go along rooting and flashing custom ROM plus a bit of Google searching on the side.
As for guides, look at the top of the General Section (you're in it right now!) and everything that's labelled [GUIDE] should be good to use.
To answer the last question, yes it is possible to root the phone and leaving everything as is although there is absolutely no point in doing so. Unlocking the bootloader WILL WIPE your phone clean (ie game data, sms, call logs.....). It would be best to just start fresh. If you are so intent on staying on Sense 3.6, then I would recommend you to either Android Revolution HD or Blackout ROM which you can find more information on in the Android Development section.
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Thanks for the reply.
Well, I gave a thought and I don't plan to stick to the sense 3.6 looks coz sense 4 will definitely be better. Can you suggest a good ROM for me? I have heard about Cyanogen Mod. What's your opinion regarding that? They have provided full tutorial for flashing their recent ROM. Does that also mean that I will get the superuser access or do I need to do something extra?
zwitter said:
Thanks for the reply.
Well, I gave a thought and I don't plan to stick to the sense 3.6 looks coz sense 4 will definitely be better. Can you suggest a good ROM for me? I have heard about Cyanogen Mod. What's your opinion regarding that? They have provided full tutorial for flashing their recent ROM. Does that also mean that I will get the superuser access or do I need to do something extra?
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Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
Gizmo648 said:
Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
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I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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I never tried this one, i thought you want to use Sense?
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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Depends on what you're looking for really. CyanVivo10.1 is Android 4.2.2. Id say I'm only using CyanVivo10.1 for the sole purpose of having a theme engine plus theres always more free RAM on AOSP ROMs which Id like since multitasking its pretty essential to me.
However in terms of battery and overall performance Id have to ViperVivo is best. Nik Project_X_Rebirth is also a very good choice but the lock screen ticks me off -.- My favourite Sense ROM is either Blackout or KingCobra although the latter has had reports of not booting past the splash screen for a number of people.
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
zukri90 said:
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
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Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
072665995 said:
Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
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All I know is HTC's customer service is not as good as Samsung's.
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
zwitter said:
Basic info about my device:
Model : HTC Incredible S
Android Version : 4.0.4
HTC sense version : 3.6
Software number : 4.12.720.1
I have started to feel that my phone is getting slow and I read about the benefits of rooting. So, I am planning to root my device. While going through the online tutorials, I came to know that once I root it, I won't get updates from HTC and there are also some risks of ending up with a bricked phone. Some posts said that after the recent android update, the old methods of rooting won't work.
Can someone please post a link or method of rooting my device in easiest way possible? I'd also like to know whether android version/looks will remain same after rooting? As per posts, I won't be able to get HTC updates. What are my options of staying updated in case my device supports new android versions? I kinda like the UI of my phone. Is it possible to root my phone without altering anything else?
Detailed answers would be better.
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okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
jacksonpang said:
okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
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rooting and S-OFF are not the same thing. Rooting is just unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery. That is certainly possible on any android OS. S-OFF on the other hand, you need to downgrade back to 2.3.3 (in order to get HBOOT 1.13) and then run revolutionary to get S-OFF
jacksonpang said:
okay, after reading your statement, I have to tell you a thing, rooting out HTC IncS which running on Android 4.0.4+Sense 3.6 is impossible (guys, correct me if I'm wrong) If you want to root it, you have to downgrade it back to Android 2.3.5, which is a VERY troublesome thing.. here's a guide might help you understand something about rooting our HTC IncS! >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987687
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Sorry, but it is possible to gain root access on the HTC ICS/Sense 3.6 ROM without the downgrading option that you referenced.
Unlocking the bootloader using the procedure at HTCDEV.com will allow you to install a custom recovery such as CWM or 4EXT and then you can flash SuperSu which will allow apps to request root access. With a custom recovery in place, a user can also flash a custom ROM, but the drawback is that /boot partition is mounted R/O in recovery mode, so you manually have to flash the boot.img of the custom ROM in FASTBOOT USB mode.
Gaining S-OFF is another form of 'unlocking' the bootloader and giving you full access to all of the partitions as well as the radio. S-OFF by itself does not necessarily provide your apps with root access. That is dependent on the ROM that is installed.
072665995 said:
rooting and S-OFF are not the same thing. Rooting is just unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery. That is certainly possible on any android OS. S-OFF on the other hand, you need to downgrade back to 2.3.3 (in order to get HBOOT 1.13) and then run revolutionary to get S-OFF
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Oops, yes, you're right! S-off would need to roll back to Gingerbread, while rooting doesn't need. I mixed it up :silly:
zwitter said:
I was looking for some ROMs and this one caught my eye. CyanVIVO 10.1
link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245794
What do you suggest? Which one is better?
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CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Gizmo648 said:
Well, if you want so stick with Sense, you should try out ViperVIVO and Nik's Project X best Sense Based ROMs I know
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Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
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LamboBull said:
CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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Uh no, the download link is still there. Nevertheless its still a great ROM with virtually no bugs so the only thing you could be improving is battery life and performance and if you still want more then you would be very greedy to do so because it already performs well in both.
072665995 said:
However in terms of battery and overall performance Id have to ViperVivo is best. Nik Project_X_Rebirth is also a very good choice but the lock screen ticks me off -.- My favourite Sense ROM is either Blackout or KingCobra although the latter has had reports of not booting past the splash screen for a number of people.
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lol I never got king cobra to boot
About lockscreen: push the lockscreen from a previous version and fusion.apk cause that is where the lock ring hides. I am not a fan of the new layout either so that is what I did
zukri90 said:
I don't think HTC is generous when it comes to sending updates. There's no official JB release for the Sensation. The Galaxy S2 got it though. Typical HTC...
Sent from one of the surviving Incredible S phones of the past
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GS2 is like half done, yes its there but it is not very good. There are still UI elements from ICS and even GB and half the things stop working
072665995 said:
Has it ever occured to you that the S II probably has a CPU that natively supports ion?? And that's why they have Jellybean where as the Sensation does not?? HTC isn't gonna work their bums off to get a device to support ion when they have the newer phones such as the HOX and the One.
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Nup your argument doesn't work cause VilleC2 (One S with snapdragon s3) has JB Sense
It has the exact same chipset as the Sensation but runs at a higher clock. Its got a linux 3.4 kernel with JB Sense from HTC so it definitely supports it.
LamboBull said:
CyanVIVO 10.1 is amazingly fast and smooth. Although, don't expect the same battery life as sense, as cm is not optimized for or phone.
If you want sense, Nik Rebirth is pretty good.
I personally hate sense as it is ugly, but it has its benefits such as battery life and more widgets.
Don't go for ViperVIVO because
a) The download link has been removed
b) And even if you do find the link somehow, Team Venom have officially stopped supporting or device, so don't expect any updates soon.
Click thanks if I helped you out!
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I know that, but I still use the ROM, most customizable and Full sense :3
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
072665995 said:
Uh no, the download link is still there. Nevertheless its still a great ROM with virtually no bugs so the only thing you could be improving is battery life and performance and if you still want more then you would be very greedy to do so because it already performs well in both.
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I see the links are still up. But I said that there are not going to be updates, which apart from improvements, include new features. Don't get too defensive bro
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Hello.
I just unlocked, rooted and S-OFF my HTC One M7. Now I am looking for the ROM that will suit me best.
I dislike HTC Sense, so I just want a vanilla Android experience. The first thing I did was to install Google Play Edition ROM (KitKat 4.4) from HTCOneroot.com, but after updating to 4.4.3 it started to have a whole pile of problems (constant graphical glitches, some apps+widgets not working, apps freezing, ringtone problems, etc.). It's basically unusable now, so that was a massive waste of time.
I'm nervous about installing custom ROMs because I can't be sure of the stability and I'm also a bit paranoid about what all they may be doing behind the scenes. Plus I don't want to have to be flashing new updates all the time. So what I'm really looking for is just a stock(ish) ROM I can install of 4.4.4, that I'll have no problem doing OTA updates with.
If someone can recommend one they've had good experiences with, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
Mr. Barker said:
Hello.
I just unlocked, rooted and S-OFF my HTC One M7. Now I am looking for the ROM that will suit me best.
I dislike HTC Sense, so I just want a vanilla Android experience. The first thing I did was to install Google Play Edition ROM (KitKat 4.4) from HTCOneroot.com, but after updating to 4.4.3 it started to have a whole pile of problems (constant graphical glitches, some apps+widgets not working, apps freezing, ringtone problems, etc.). It's basically unusable now, so that was a massive waste of time.
I'm nervous about installing custom ROMs because I can't be sure of the stability and I'm also a bit paranoid about what all they may be doing behind the scenes. Plus I don't want to have to be flashing new updates all the time. So what I'm really looking for is just a stock(ish) ROM I can install of 4.4.4, that I'll have no problem doing OTA updates with.
If someone can recommend one they've had good experiences with, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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The best stock(ish) ROM to receive OTA is the stock ROM. In fact, it is the only one that will receive official HTC OTA!
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Hi to all you amazing Custom ROM chefs.
I'm sure loads of us are waiting for the roll out of M7-based Android 5.0 ROMs, especially as we know the GPE version is imminent, but maybe like me they don't understand the full process. So would someone kindly let me know the following, and by posting it here I'm sure many other people will be able to understand.
Once the GPE image is released, how long do you expect it to take before the image is edited to run on non-GPE phones? And who actually does this? Do all you devs wait for the CM12 nightlies to be released and then base your own ROMs on that? Or is the port very easy once HTC release the GPE ROM, which allows you to build your ROMs from scratch? I read enough on xda to understand that there are some 'big' players out there, like ARHD, Paranoid Android, SlimRom, ASAP, etc. Do other devs wait for these and then do their own mods? And (potential 'grey area') where do the images actually come from? Do HTC happily give their images to the main devs, knowing that there's a whole User Base who will stick with their HTC handsets if they can customise them with 'unofficial' ROMs? After all, if we stick with our M7s and M8s, then we're not buying Samsung or Nexus and the market share tilts ever-so-slightly in favour of HTC.
I hope someone will take the time to explain the Custom ROM process, and I also hope this will stop other users from posting "when, when, when?" threads (irony appreciated).
Thanks in advance,
miles_muso
Since anyone hasn't answered this yet, I'll throw in what I know...
There are three types of ROMs: Google Play Edition, Sense, and AOSP.
GPE roms are stock, Nexus-like roms that have underlying frameworks similar to that of Sense (which I'll get into in a sec) however they are aesthetically virtually the same as the Nexus devices. They receive updates much quicker than their Sense counterparts due to HTC not having as big a role in modifying the interface, etc. They also have apps that are very similar (if not the same) as AOSP apps. SinlessRom GPE and Android Revolution (GPE) are examples of this.
Sense roms are HTC roms. HTC takes the updates Google releases and then proceeds to change it drastically, both under-the-hood and aesthetically. Their interfaces are heavily modified and they often have different apps from AOSP and GPE. These take the longest to release new versions of Android for. Android Revolution HD (Sense) is an example of this.
AOSP comes straight from Google. ROMs such as CyanogenMod are a modified AOSP. AOSP Lollipop is already available to build and it has been built for our M7. AOSP roms are (nearly always) aftermarket roms and can work on all S-On m7 devices. ParanoidAndroid and CyanogenMod are examples of this.
If a user has a phone that ships with HTC Sense, they will typically have to achieve S-Off before flashing a GPE rom. I'm not sure if the same is true for the vice versa, however I can imagine it is.
Now, to answer your question, you can build roms from scratch already (and there are some that have been released). You can't build Sense or GPE from source and you must modify official versions, leaks, or ports. You can build AOSP from source, and since we have somewhat-proper kernel source for Lollipop, it's not as difficult as it is for less-popular devices that don't have that source.
I personally feel like the release of GPE will be most helpful for AOSP in the aspect of kernel sources (as it will be the first OFFICIAL and hopefully BUG-FREE Lollipop for the m7 devices).
I'll add to this post if I can think of anything else.
Hi nuuits,
Thanks for your reply, this is EXACTLY the kind of info I wanted here. Hopefully this will help a lot of people understand the Custom ROM development phases. And, may I ask, when do YOU think we'll start seeing the first batch of ROMs based on Android 5 (apart from CM12, which, as you state, is currently available)?
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Hi nuuits,
Thanks for your reply, this is EXACTLY the kind of info I wanted here. Hopefully this will help a lot of people understand the Custom ROM development phases. And, may I ask, when do YOU think we'll start seeing the first batch of ROMs based on Android 5 (apart from CM12, which, as you state, is currently available)?
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Apart from AOSP, you can expect GPE and Sense ROMs when they're either leaked, ported, or released officially.
Leaks are "early builds" (not always intended for the general public's use) that are, well, leaked to sites such as XDA. Ports occur when you take a ROM for one phone (let's say the M8 ) and port it over to ours. Official releases are just that- ROMs pushed by HTC and/or Google.
You can expect custom GPE ROMs when one of the above occurs. I'm putting my finger on "official release", which is projected for the coming week(s), however I can never really know!!
Sense ROMs will come much later than GPE (but still within HTC's 90 day limit- if they keep their end of the bargain). There's an even toss between the above three methods imo- as the m8 will get the Sense update before the m7, we might see a port. Leaks are somewhat likely and the official release will come when it comes (which is hopefully before and probably around the 90 day mark- so January at latest).
After the initial stock ROMs are leaked, ported, or released, there are bound to be updates to your favourite custom ROMs, but of course that depends on the developer in question.
Is there a bare bones ROM available for 4.4.4? I recall some being available for previous devices and those seem to have to have the best performance and most popular. Basically just the stock ROM debloated and flashable via TWRP. And if so, would this have working touchless control/active display?
thanks!
The reason it probably isn't there is that most people just root and delete the 10-20 apks manually. Takes pretty much the same amount of time for the same end result.
Sent from my Moto X
Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657 You can always remove more.
I'm using Epsilon Project ROM on my XT1060 Verizon Dev edition running AT&T Sim card. It's very minimalist, has working active display and touchless control, and reduces battery consumption considerably compared to stock (DU Battery Saver estimated battery time jumped from 18 hours to 28 hours from full).
Here's the link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-epsilon-project-v1-0-09-03-clean-t2866450
thanks for the feedback y'all, looks like I've got some reading/research to do.
IMNUTS - agreed, but from my experience, I think it's best to start with a clean slate rather than trying to debloat various apps - as those could have left other files on the system that could hinder performance.
Make sure to look into Krypton(blur/stock based), Eclipse(same):good:. Honestly I've only ran Krypton but I went back to stock rooted... + xposed etc... had some lag here and there in Krypton, stock is noticiably snappier for me:/ *shrugs
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Make sure to look into Krypton(blur/stock based), Eclipse(same):good:. Honestly I've only ran Krypton but I went back to stock rooted... + xposed etc... had some lag here and there in Krypton, stock is noticiably snappier for me:/ *shrugs
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Went with krypton. Will report later this week.
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Do you guys (or anyone) know if I would be able to downgrade to a stock 4.4.2 after upgrading to 4.4.4 on Krypton (or any custom ROM, for that matter)? I know there's been a lot of talk about how you shouldn't downgrade... I've always been a little unclear as to whether that applies to stock ROMs only or both stock and custom.
Also, what happens if the install doesn't work? Can I flash a downgraded ROM? I tried installing the latest CM11 for my phone, but it failed, and I reinstalled a stock 4.2.2, and just reading through the forums... I feel like that was a big freakin' no-no.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657 You can always remove more.
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TheBoiledDogs said:
I'm using Epsilon Project ROM on my XT1060 Verizon Dev edition running AT&T Sim card. It's very minimalist, has working active display and touchless control, and reduces battery consumption considerably compared to stock (DU Battery Saver estimated battery time jumped from 18 hours to 28 hours from full).
Here's the link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-epsilon-project-v1-0-09-03-clean-t2866450
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cxwong1 said:
Do you guys (or anyone) know if I would be able to downgrade to a stock 4.4.2 after upgrading to 4.4.4 on Krypton (or any custom ROM, for that matter)? I know there's been a lot of talk about how you shouldn't downgrade... I've always been a little unclear as to whether that applies to stock ROMs only or both stock and custom.
Also, what happens if the install doesn't work? Can I flash a downgraded ROM? I tried installing the latest CM11 for my phone, but it failed, and I reinstalled a stock 4.2.2, and just reading through the forums... I feel like that was a big freakin' no-no.
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Roms don't flash bootloader and other certain things, so... The rule is really, don't downgrade official firmware, ever. Once you flash 4.4.2 or higher, you cannot downgrade. Roms are not included, as they don't touch the bootloader. So yes, if you were on official 4.4.2 firmware, flashed a 4.4.4 custom rom, and want to flash 4.4.2 official firmware again.... That's fine.
But if you flash 4.4.4 firmware with fastboot or RSDLite, that's it.... No going back to 4.4.2.
Now, my disclaimer.... You SHOULD be OK. There's no guarantees in life, especially on phone flashing.... Anything can go horribly wrong anytime and doing anything. So do all this at your own peril. ?
Thanks!
Darth said:
Roms don't flash bootloader and other certain things, so... The rule is really, don't downgrade official firmware, ever. Once you flash 4.4.2 or higher, you cannot downgrade. Roms are not included, as they don't touch the bootloader. So yes, if you were on official 4.4.2 firmware, flashed a 4.4.4 custom rom, and want to flash 4.4.2 official firmware again.... That's fine. But if you flash 4.4.4 firmware with fastboot or RSDLite, that's it.... No going back to 4.4.2. Now, my disclaimer.... You SHOULD be OK. There's no guarantees in life, especially on phone flashing.... Anything can go horribly wrong anytime and doing anything. So do all this at your own peril. ?
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