As the title states, is it too late to purchase a Nexus One as a result of growing technology and the availability of new mobile smartphones such as the G2x, or the Sensation or Galaxy SII?
The main reason I would like to purchase the Nexus One is because of its active Android development, and because I would not like to spend too much money buying a off-contract phone.
On a side note, I am aware of some issues the phone may have, and my question would be whether they can be resolved using any software modifications.
You can no longer by any N1s from google. Hit up ebay/craigslist/kijiji/the forums here or some other message boards you trust that sell electronics and see if you can pick one up. There are still plenty around. Just make sure you get the one with the right bands for your carrier.
There are 2 main issues with the N1.
1) Is the screen's digitzier...it sucks ass..... the phone's touchscreen basically goes out of sync and will think you're pressing something half an inch or so to the side/top/bottom. No real way around this unfortunately. If this happens, cycling the screen on/off will fix it. (No need to restart the phone, just put it to sleep and bring it back).
2) The second issue is the power button. This is a design flaw that became apparent overtime. The N1s power button will wear out and get stuck/seize to function over time. Some people say early N1s are more prone to this but its a design flaw with all models and will eventually happen. You can get around this with a custom rom. Most roms like the Cyanogen mods offer alternative wake options (ie: trackball or volume wake) and you can use a widget to shut the screen off/shut the phone down.
All in all still a great phone. I <3 my N1 and to me it's still the perfect phone. I don't plan on upgrading till it either kicks the bucket completely or something DRASTICALLY better comes out. (maybe another generation or 2 and I'll upgrade to the next Nexus device).
Hope this helped.
Thank you for your response.
if you are looking for a active dev phone with still good amount of activity going on, and a cheaper phone to buy unlocked, the nexus one is basically an excellent option. pick one up for 200 bucks and you got yourself a stellar device for such a good price.
The N1 is a Developer device, great for flashing & fun, and it's still rocken...
Its not too late.
I just checked and you can still register as a developer ($25) and then get the phone (for $479)
http://android.brightstarcorp.com/index_adp3.htm
Used is a better way to go imo if you need a n1.
If youre really into flashing well it doesn't mean you can't do on others but this is a great phone to do such thing s.
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how common is that screen issue
100 Percent common.
TMO only for 3g as ATT is no longer supported with 3g (edge or 2g only) on the N1 from the dev buy.
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I see it happen more frequently when the phone is really warm due to charging... but to be honest, I haven't had an issue with the screen in a very long time. As was mentioned, simply turning the screen off and on again clears it so it's a bit of a pain but not too bad.
Today is my saddest day, my perfectly good shape (no cracking screens..etc) Nexus 7 16GB stolen at Liberty Since Center Museum, in Jersey City, NJ.:crying:
I was at second floor sitting at table at cafeteria , and then step out for a few mins to watch out my 3 year old girl. I was worry about my daughter who was running on the floor, so I jump and run behind here, I completely forget my small backup on the chair I was sitting...when I realized it, I grabbed my little girl, and rush back to the table where I was sitting, but it was gone, couple of waiters cleaning the tables, and I asked them if they saw a small green back pack, they said yes..they brought my back bag, and when I checked, my Nexus 7 gone!!!
I told them where's my tablet to two waiters now standing next to me, they said they know nothing about my tablet, they said they saw the bag and thought it was forgetten, and took it back and put it here inside. They asked me to talk to office/info desk in the Museum, so I went there and told them what happened and I said I know I am pretty sure one of the waiters took the tablet and demanded that there must be some security camera or something. they said there's none in the cafeteria area.
We are talking about max 10-15 min here, I know it was museum closing time and it was only me sitting on the table in the cafeteria, and waiters cleaning the tables...that's the time all happened, so I am quite sure one of them took it out.
I did not have any remote security app installed...so I cannot remotely wipe my stolen N7, but I changed my gmail account password using my phone, and when I get home, change all other password I can think of (amazon, box, etc)...I also went to Google wallet and disable N7 device, I also deleted my google account credit card as well.
I am not sure what else I can do without any security apps installed, I did probably best I could at this point (chaining the password..etc). Drop me a line if you have any other ideas that I can do.
I am not sure how much this would help, but hoping they cannot get my account info or do anything about it. I am quietly regret that I did not install any security apps on my N7. I am also quite sad that I lost my beloved Nexus 7!!:crying:
so I was sad, holding my 3 year old girl, went thru steps and front door to meet my wife. When my wife saw my face, she said what happened..I said my nexus 7 stolen...she knew that I loved my N7, so she did not say anything, tried to cheer me up..but did not work...
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This is one of the reasons why it's so important to have a remote security app. The usefulness on wifi-only devices is a bit lacking, since your ability to control it remotely without having it online makes it difficult to use a lot of the functionality. But on the 3G model especially, it allows you to track/wipe/etc. it if necessary. You can also make it sound an alarm, which in your case could have tracked it to where it was if it was still in the building (ie: in the employee lockers or storage area).
I highly recommend Cerberus. It's a great app and does everything you can want. You can also install it in the ROM, so even if the thief wipes the device, you can still remotely access it and track down who stole it (unless they do a full system flash).
Contact Google and report it stolen.THey can wipe and disable the device as soon as it comes online.
This is why every Android user should install Cerberus immediately. The app is only $4 (after the first free week) and will allow you to use it on up to 5 devices (so less than $1 per device). Cerberus is amazing & has an insane amount of recovery/tracking methods, and can even survive through a wipe. Makes me sad more people don't use it...
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This is why every Android user should install Cerberus immediately. The app is only $4 (after the first free week) and will allow you to use it on up to 5 devices (so less than $1 per device). Cerberus is amazing & has an insane amount of recovery/tracking methods, and can even survive through a wipe. Makes me sad more people don't use it...
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if I only I knew....I was aware of security apps, in fact I had one lockout app installed, but after I was dealing with 4.2 upgrade, I did fresh re-install stock ROM, so forgot to install lockout app (not sure if it is really as effective as Cerberus though)...too many lessons learnt today
James-NC, thanks for the info. I called Google's Nexus support phone# 1-855-83-NEXUS (63987)., but could not able to get thru, waited on the phone over 40 mins...I will try tomorrow morning see if I get hold someone.....
I did know Google can wipe and disable the devices...
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Today is my saddest day, my perfectly good shape (no cracking screens..etc) Nexus 7 16GB stolen at Liberty Since Center Museum, in Jersey City, NJ.:crying:
I was at second floor sitting at table at cafeteria , and then step out for a few mins to watch out my 3 year old girl. I was worry about my daughter who was running on the floor, so I jump and run behind here, I completely forget my small backup on the chair I was sitting...when I realized it, I grabbed my little girl, and rush back to the table where I was sitting, but it was gone, couple of waiters cleaning the tables, and I asked them if they saw a small green back pack, they said yes..they brought my back bag, and when I checked, my Nexus 7 gone!!!
I told them where's my tablet to two waiters now standing next to me, they said they know nothing about my tablet, they said they saw the bag and thought it was forgetten, and took it back and put it here inside. They asked me to talk to office/info desk in the Museum, so I went there and told them what happened and I said I know I am pretty sure one of the waiters took the tablet and demanded that there must be some security camera or something. they said there's none in the cafeteria area.
We are talking about max 10-15 min here, I know it was museum closing time and it was only me sitting on the table in the cafeteria, and waiters cleaning the tables...that's the time all happened, so I am quite sure one of them took it out.
I did not have any remote security app installed...so I cannot remotely wipe my stolen N7, but I changed my gmail account password using my phone, and when I get home, change all other password I can think of (amazon, box, etc)...I also went to Google wallet and disable N7 device, I also deleted my google account credit card as well.
I am not sure what else I can do without any security apps installed, I did probably best I could at this point (chaining the password..etc). Drop me a line if you have any other ideas that I can do.
I am not sure how much this would help, but hoping they cannot get my account info or do anything about it. I am quietly regret that I did not install any security apps on my N7. I am also quite sad that I lost my beloved Nexus 7!!:crying:
so I was sad, holding my 3 year old girl, went thru steps and front door to meet my wife. When my wife saw my face, she said what happened..I said my nexus 7 stolen...she knew that I loved my N7, so she did not say anything, tried to cheer me up..but did not work...
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U should of accused them of taking it , you should have cause a scene big enuf to allow the cops to be called and them inform them when they arrive that one of them stole it. Or you coulda done it the old fashion way and kicked some ass .....never play nice with suspected thieves ....
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if your SURE you was the only one in the area except the waiters i woulda really .....really caused more then a scene, i can see your situation thou especially since you had your child present. :good:
did you leave wifi switched on? or bluetooth?
if so go back and quickly use bluetooth to search for your device name
or use "wifikill" connect to the wifi in the area you woulda been using, wifikill will then show you all devices connected tho that wifi point, you would then see if your device is still in the area "hidden under the counter"
Don't mean to sound bad, but I purchased Cerebrus and after a few weeks of leaving it dormant (not needed most of the time?) I realised that it had started sending messages to my contacts.
How do I know it was Cerebrus? BECAUSE THE TEXTS IT WERE SENDING WAS MY LOCATION AND MAP CO-ORDINATES !!!!
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Don't mean to sound bad, but I purchased Cerebrus and after a few weeks of leaving it dormant (not needed most of the time?) I realised that it had started sending messages to my contacts.
How do I know it was Cerebrus? BECAUSE THE TEXTS IT WERE SENDING WAS MY LOCATION AND MAP CO-ORDINATES !!!!
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i think its a feature of cerebus you cant check or un-check in settings,,, just goin on what ive read elsewhere myself i use "prey" security" it also has a feature that is my device is stolen i can send it an e-mail to activate map tracking
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i think its a feature of cerebus you cant check or un-check in settings,,, just goin on what ive read elsewhere myself i use "prey" security" it also has a feature that is my device is stolen i can send it an e-mail to activate map tracking
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But it was just doing it by itself, I even forgot I had Cerberus.
My phones networks kept turning themselves off and on, then contacts kept getting sent maps of where I was.
Un-installed Cerberus and Deleted the accounts on website, the issues stopped.
WHY? WHY DOES CERBERUS MESS MY PHONE UP !?
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But it was just doing it by itself, I even forgot I had Cerberus.
My phones networks kept turning themselves off and on, then contacts kept getting sent maps of where I was.
Un-installed Cerberus and Deleted the accounts on website, the issues stopped.
WHY? WHY DOES CERBERUS MESS MY PHONE UP !?
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because user error. its an option in the program..
Shame you have changed your Google password.
Otherwise could have done a remote install of Lookout Plan B (search on market)
Then tracked the tablet yourself!
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We are talking about max 10-15 min here
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Really sorry to hear about your device, but even ten minutes is a really long time. I wouldn't leave anything of value unattended for more than 10-15 seconds.
I've had Cerebus installed on two phones and three tablets. Never had any issues with contacts randomly getting text messages of my location. I'm calling user error.
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did you leave wifi switched on? or bluetooth?
if so go back and quickly use bluetooth to search for your device name
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That is exactly what I was going to say. OP is going to kick himself if he did indeed have bluetooth enabled and didn't think to search for all nearby bluetooth devices from his phone.
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or use "wifikill" connect to the wifi in the area you woulda been using, wifikill will then show you all devices connected tho that wifi point, you would then see if your device is still in the area "hidden under the counter"
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That I didn't think of, and it is pure genius!
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If you got an coporate exchange account setup on the device you cant remote wipe (including SD card) from there.
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Flanimal said:
That is exactly what I was going to say. OP is going to kick himself if he did indeed have bluetooth enabled and didn't think to search for all nearby bluetooth devices from his phone.
That I didn't think of, and it is pure genius!
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lol cheers
First thing the thief do, turn the device off. No trace would works.
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adxgrave said:
First thing the thief do, turn the device off. No trace would works.
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I disagree.
If it was a random person walking by who spotted the device and took it, they would high-tale it out of the area, making any BT/Wi-Fi tracking impossible anyway. But odds are, the first thing they're going to do with it after they get to a safe location is play with it and see if they can get access to it. Sure if they were smart they might realize it is safer to turn if off and reflash it when they get home, but honestly, what are the odds of the thief being that smart?
If it was a waiter, as the OP assumes, they're going to try and hide it ASAP. It's unlikely they are going to walk out of the building, at least not too far. So that leaves a few random hiding spots around the immediate vicinity. They aren't going to take the time and inspect the device, let alone try and figure out how to turn it off. They wouldn't want to be seen by anyone with it in their possession. Odds are, they grabbed it, hid it with something they were carrying or in their apron (if applicable) and stashed it for later. And if that was the case, and if it was online (highly unlikely for the non-3G unit, then recovery would be possible.
As a prime example of stupidity regarding thieves and tablets, look at the TSA agent who was just caught stealing a planted iPad. A local news crew had incidents staged where 5-10 iPads were accidentally left by travelers in an airport. All but one were promptly returned to the "owner". But one guy, on camera, snatched it. They put a GPS tracker in it, and traced it to the agents home. For a week they waited, and they saw it go online, apps attempted to be downloaded/installed (on the owner's account) and just played with in general. Finally, the news crew arrived and questioned him about it - which he of course denied. Until that is when they set off a remote alarm siren. He made up some excuse and returned it. Fortunately, and surprisingly for the government, he lost his job.
So no, thieves are usually quite stupid.
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So no, thieves are usually quite stupid.
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too true if you search google for stolen tablet/phone recovered with prey security app and there a ton of people who backed with friends or police get theyre devices back from theives,. :victory::victory::victory:
Hi everyone,
Long time lurker so first off thanks to everyone for all the useful assistance over quite a prolonged period.
I did a search before posting this, and whilst other screen issues have been raised in the past I could see no reference to this one. Basically in the last 48hrs my N7 has started to interpret touch screen input despite me not actually interfacing with the screen. It has got so bad in the last day I'm probably going to have to send it back as I assume its a hardware issue. I've had the N7 about 6 weeks.
Not sure if anyone else has seen such a thing and its actually software related? I'd rather fix it myself if possible rather than send it away. Even if not, I thought it would be useful to provide a record of the issue.
Edit - as a new user I can't post the YouTube link. My username is stenard1000 and the video title is "Nexus 7 screen issue - phantom input". I double checked and its easy enough to locate.
Ignore the Paradise Cove gameplay in the background. The issue mainly occurs in the top right corner. The only screen input by me in the video is the back button or pressing no in the middle of the screen. I've enabled the touch screen logging in the developer options to help track the phantom inputs more easily.
Also, for the record, turning the screen off and back on again does stop the issue temporarily, so its not a permanent hardware fault.
All you can do is a full wipe and format of everything, and flash back to completely stock. If that doesn't fix it then its a hardware issue and you're powerless,; time to send it back.
One thing that you could try first is popping the back off, and disconnecting the battery for ten minutes or so to give it a proper cold boot. That's the best advice i can give...
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I've recently started getting this as well, my n7 was picked up last August so its odd that its suddenly started to be haunted.
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I've recently started getting this as well, my n7 was picked up last August so its odd that its suddenly started to be haunted.
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There's been a # of posts & discussions on this lately - hardware issues are being pointed at - as simple as a loosely assembled battery connector (that's lousy QC on the production line at the factory = poor QI) and/or hardware failure with the thin & delicate electronics.
At least we can mostly conclude that neither our own government's CIA/NSA and/or UK's MI5, etc. are tuning in to spy on our devices, or some hackers deep out in cyberspace has managed to remotely launch spyware on the N7 - I would hate to think what my friends behind the China's firewalled garden are handling these freaking incidents with the ghosty keypad inputting strokes on its own, LOL.
I had this issue straight out the box and after i flashed smoothrom also (i called them ghost strokes). After flashing CleanRom all that disappeared. Can't say for sure that CleanROM fixed it, buti haven't had that issue since then.
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I had this issue straight out the box and after i flashed smoothrom also (i called them ghost strokes). After flashing CleanRom all that disappeared. Can't say for sure that CleanROM fixed it, buti haven't had that issue since then.
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I just flashed SmoothROM last night and had this problem as well. I didn't happen with the stock ROM though. I just bought mine two weeks ago.
Does anyone know if it's software or hardware yet? D=
For me, it seems to be a major pain to switch between phones. Actually, it isn't an issue to switch back to the HTC One. But when I want to switch back to the EVO 3D, it returns an error...
Sorry, allow me to clarify. When you log in to your Sprint account, and you scroll down a bit (depending on your screen resolution, no scrolling down may be needed lol) and you see your phone info, how much 3G data you've used and how many texts have been sent/received for the current billing cycle. On the right of that, there's a drop-down menu and I select "Activate a new phone". It takes me to the next page which has a picture of the HTC One on the left, and the Evo on the right, which is the phone I want to re-use again for texting/data, and below these pictures are a list of warnings and things that need to be known (like pictures/SMS need to be backed up, blah blah) and then I press "Continue" at the bottom. And then it gives me this error:
"This page is no longer available. To complete your activation, you'll need to start over. If you have questions about your swap, please review your confirmation email.
You may also return to My Sprint."
I'm sick of having to e-mail [email protected] every time I want to do this. Is there not a way to do this on my own without contacting them? *sighs* Was much easier with GSM phones, just have to take out the SIM and then put it in another GSM phone and I'd be good to go (after rebooting of course.)
A lot of issues are due to incompatible SOCs Sprint uses to attach the certain kinds of phones onto the account. It is usually a smooth transition using the website, especially if going from an alike phone to an alike phone (Wimax capable -> Wimax capable; blackberry -> blackberry). But often times when going from a LTE device to any other device not capable of LTE requires adjusting SOCs on the account, which the website unfortunately has a hard time doing.
But that's when you either call in and have them do it over the phone or easily open up a chat session. They'll get it done for you!
Thanks \m/.
Instead of making another thread, I thought I'd ask something else in here.
It's related to selling the HTC One with an active Sprint account.
What happens if I sell the HTC One, and that new owner tried to activate it on his network but it would return an error saying that it's already active on the first owner's account? (mine)
Does that mean as soon as I sell the device, I have to cancel Sprint service and use that money to pay for the ETF so that it becomes neutral with a clean ESN?
What about the SIM card in the phone? Do I take it out or just leave it in there? I need to know these things before I go ahead and sell the phone..?
N0wy0ud1e said:
Thanks \m/.
Instead of making another thread, I thought I'd ask something else in here.
It's related to selling the HTC One with an active Sprint account.
What happens if I sell the HTC One, and that new owner tried to activate it on his network but it would return an error saying that it's already active on the first owner's account? (mine)
Does that mean as soon as I sell the device, I have to cancel Sprint service and use that money to pay for the ETF so that it becomes neutral with a clean ESN?
What about the SIM card in the phone? Do I take it out or just leave it in there? I need to know these things before I go ahead and sell the phone..?
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Pretty much yes on both questions.
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Pretty much yes on both questions.
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I ported to T-Mobile, and have this perfectly good Sprint HTC One with 7 or 8 cases but didn't realize that I can't sell it on swappa if it has a bad ESN (The point is to use the money from selling the phone to pay off the remaining balance so that it gets a clean ESN) so I wonder if there are other places to sell the phone because I'm not having much luck on Hardforum or Anandtech forums despite having 119 positive Heatware evaluations.
Hey all,
I'm new to the moto x and well it was left under a pillow charging and the screen stayed on, just got it yesterday. Everything looks good and the screen is fine under further inspection, should I be worried about burn in or anything or did I just text the screen for a while.
PS I actually don't know if it was on the whole time it was just warm when picked it up so I assumed it was. I had an alarm going off at the same time so maybe it was woken up my that
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Someone please delete this. It was charging. Thatd y it was warm.
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Really don't appreciate that, it's a simply question in a general forum chill out it's not my first rodeo I just become concerned sometimes, man.
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Oh I'm.not cyber bullying by any means. Jus think before u post. The phone won't let the screen stay on. Especially under a pillow. The sensor will turn then screen off anyway
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I wouldn't worry about it. The battery was what made the phone warm. Totally legitimate worry though. My 3DS has a tendency to come out of sleep when closed and my old Galaxy S's screen turned itself on in my pockets all the time so it isn't that crazy of a conclusion to draw.
Unless you changed the display sleep option to never (which I'm not sure is even possible), or checked the option to never sleep while charging (think that one's in developer options), the display wouldn't have stayed on all night.
It was warm because it was under a pillow and couldn't dissipate the heat properly. If it had been too warm, the phone would have shut itself off.
Basically, I wouldn't worry about it.
I wouldn't suggest leaving your phone under a pillow while charging... Heat is one of the primary foes of electronics and can cause an array of damage and issues... That would be more concerning then leaving the screen on for hours, in my opinion.
AT&T Moto X rocking 4.4
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Someone please delete this. It was charging. Thatd y it was warm.
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unless it takes all night to charge... which it doesnt. i doubt it was still charging. i dunno about yours. but my x charges from zero to hero in a couple hours.
as you said. think before you post.
My Moto X does the same thing, the screen does not turn off while charging unless I turn it off, even if I leave it under my pillow. This is an option under Developer Options which is initially hidden in the settings, you can access the Moto X Development options by going to Settings: About Phone: and then tap Build Number 7 times (forum wont let me post link to the Moto X support page with the details).
Although I never turned this on or accessed the developer options on my Moto X my phone would stay awake while charging. My thought is that on my old HTC I had it turned on under developer options and through my settings being backed up to my google account it carried over to my Moto X without ever having to access the developer options (my wifes Moto X does not stay on while charging).
@strictlyphat - you need to eat your own words and "Just think before u post". Comments like yours are why some people hate posting in forums, but I guess you will always run into "big shots" who think they know everything without knowing anything.