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I have 2, one of which is brand new, I've put it up on ebay 3 times now, and each time some idiot or another with a fake account tries to buy it, and I have to relist the god damn thing.
Anybody know of anywhere else I can try to sell it?
Cheers in advance.
I have had attmepted scams as well. Choose Paypal only, and also find the thing which makes the Paypal buyer have a validated account. Also I put in very large font at the end of an auction description that I won't post to Nigeria and No Scammers. Only set postage to UK/EU as well to limit scammers.
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E-bay is total pants !
Just had the sme trouble with my Exec , gave up in the end
also had trouble when I sold my 9500 , I had some idiot mail saying he wanted to pay by paypal and then collect in person over the next hour - "great !" I thought , but unfortunately I had missed his mail by a few hours
Then the following day I get a mail from the same guy (he TOLD me he was the same guy !) but using a different ID , saying he still wanted to pay by paypal and collect within an hour ,
I smelt a rat and looked up the old ID , Sure enough , he had made several large (£300 +) paypal purchase , all pretty local the previous day and was now "no longer a registered user" - He had obviously got a stolen Paypal account
Anyway ....... I contacted Ebay to alert them (thinking i was helping them out !) I received a reply telling me I had got it all wrong , and there was nothing to link the two accounts :? - fair enough , no skin off my nose !
Needless to say , when I looked a few days later , the second ID had been revoked , but not before he had racked up about £3,000 in paypal purchases !
I learned a valuable lesson that day
EBAY DO NOT GIVE A TOSS ABOUT FRAUD , UNLESS THEIR FEES ARE AT RISK !
Makes me sick to see all the idiots out there selling photo's of xboxes etc with "please note this auction is for a photo" in small print hidden among the spec
Ebay sucks
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same for me
I had once an issue with a guy from Hong Kong who did not ship. I tried to mail him 5 times, no reply. Then he wrote that he "sent another unit today". I waited a month, tried again, no comment.
I ended up leaving him a negative feedback. Guess what? he left one for me as well "do not sell anything to this guy..." I tried to talk to ebay and sent them the entire emails history. They were not willing to delete his feedback. ebay does not really protect you.
only remember one rule on ebay..
always deal with person who uses paypal & have feedbacks over 50.
FWIW, that's how I ended up getting my BA and smartphone. I bid on each item and ended up losing the auction in the end but since the seller had "USA Only" and / or I have good feedback while another bidder didn't or had none, the high bidders were thrown out and I was offered the chance to "buy it now". Which is what I did in both cases and in both cases the seller and myself were both pretty happy with the results. I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you explicitly say "UK / Eur ONLY" (maybe USA, we're not all a-holes over here ), PayPal only and no bidders with less than X feedback or less than 100% good feedback, then you have every right to blow off the scum. Ebay isn't bad, you just have to make sure you spell everything out and apply a little common sense. You could also try to sell it here or on modaco.com and specify paypal only, it's not just limited to ebay.
I don't think eBay is that bad- as long as you clearly specify selling/buyer requirements.
I sold one of my 'free upgrade' MDA Compacts in a 5 day listing the first time.
Do keep an eye out on the feedback, location, etc of all bidders on your item. If in doubt, just remove their bid.
I've sold other more expensive things too- electrical goods, alloy wheels, etc all without problem.
Things like insisting on some kind of deposit as soon as the auction had ended would safe guard you somewhat too.
ebay!!
I just want to add this to advice when you sell anything on ebay in order to avoid trouble ,use buy it now & paypal ,what you do is when you in steps of listing there is a box wich if ticked <immediate payment reqiured> ,you only sell your goods to the once ho pay you immediately so they don't win the auction till they pay you trough paypal and you receive the money
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these scammers are called nigeria connection...it is a very big problem... try to exclude bidders from countrys except your country... for germany this works, i never had problems with them again
Sorry about those Nigerian scammers....
BUT I ASSURE YOU THERE ARE MANY NIGERIANS WHO ARE INDEED VERY STRAIGHT. I'AM ONE. BUT TRULY WHEN YOU DEAL WITH "NIGERIANS" DO BE CAREFUL!!!
Probably best not to stereotype...
fearomoon said:
these scammers are called nigeria connection...it is a very big problem... try to exclude bidders from countrys except your country... for germany this works, i never had problems with them again
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This upto a point works but no matter what country they come from they are now seemingly able to register with UK accounts so it's not always easy to block buyers from other countries.
Ebay is great!
Well I would just like to add that I am an experienced ebayer having been involved with over 200 transactions and in all that time, only one ended up being from a dodgy buyer!
Some good advice has already been given here so take heed! Selecting immediate payment for Paypal is the best & smartest solution.
Saying that I agree that ebay have a bad history with their customer service relationship, they are not that bothered as they are making millions every day!
I bought my O2 mini S on Ebay. Got a great deal ($520) and great service from a UK seller who got it in my hands in a week. Prior to that, however, I did have a couple of bad experiences including one where the K-Jam seller added new bidder requirements a day before the auction closed and cancelled my leading bid. It sold the next to a "mystery buyer" with a new account for the same price I had bid. He clearly had bid on his own product because he did not like the way the auction was proceeding. I think I got him reprimanded but it took a dozen frustrating emails to customer service to get them to acknowledge that what he did was a flagrant violation of the rules.
So I tend to list my old phones on Gumtree, due to eBay's crazy fees. With eBay and Paypal, you sell a phone for £400 and give them £40 of it! Kinda crazy really.
Anyway, everytime I list an item on Gumtree (even through I state I wont ship internationally) I get e-mails people telling me they will pay me X+£100 via Paypal.
Of course I always either ignore or reply telling them I wont ship outside of the UK at which point they don't reply.
What I'm curious about is, how do they work the scam? Paypal is generally quite safe isn't it? Do they claim after two week's they haven't received the item? Does the money just never get to Paypal and they try and talk you in to sending it before it's there?
I'm half tempted to ask one of them to pay the money, me with no intention of sending the phone anywhere, just to see what happens...
http://reviews.ebay.com/PAYPAL-BUYER-SCAM-EXTREMELY-IMPORTANT-INFORMATION_W0QQugidZ10000000000114286
Basically unless you have proof that you have sent, and that they have signed for an item, PayPal will refund the money.
a specific example
So from the example, even if you have proof that the package was delivered, Paypal are likely to give the money back?
I wonder what happens if I ask the scammers to transfer direct into my bank account?
That's made me a little nervous now. I've just sold my DHD on eBay, the guy has paid with Paypal right away.
What are the safest steps for me next? I simply post it via recorded delivery and submit the tracking number to eBay somewhere?
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That's made me a little nervous now. I've just sold my DHD on eBay, the guy has paid with Paypal right away.
What are the safest steps for me next? I simply post it via recorded delivery and submit the tracking number to eBay somewhere?
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and on paypal too
Thinking about it, I should probably do it special delivery, because that is insured. So if he claims its damaged or something, I can go back to Royal Mail?
Now... the other thing, the guy is only 7 miles away, I'd prefer to drop it over to him. If I get him to sign a 'receipt' do you think Paypal would accept it? I guess I'm actually safer posting it now, he's paid for postage, so he could claim I made it up, where's my postage info...
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I'm half tempted to ask one of them to pay the money, me with no intention of sending the phone anywhere, just to see what happens...
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I replied to a spam scam once, I gave him the crime stoppers number as my mobile number. Idiot didn't notice what is was, just asked for my personal number. At that point I ignored.
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Thinking about it, I should probably do it special delivery, because that is insured. So if he claims its damaged or something, I can go back to Royal Mail?
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So long as you keep the receipt for postage, and make a note of the time and date, where you posted it etc, the Post Office will refund up to £30 (I think that's the amount anyway) for missing items, after they have investigated. Anything more expensive, and I would suggest you send it with insurance anyway.
Are you guys serious??????
just search "gumtree scams paypal moneysavingexpert" on google (sorry can't post links)
That's why I stopped using gumtree overall. It is nothing but a scam den! Now I use other safer sites like movethat.com or bonsoni.com
Not if you're careful. I've not been scammed once using Gumtree and I've made more money from each sale as I'm not giving eBay and Paypal 12% of my sale. You could say that in itself is the biggest scam...
I do still use eBay, cause we don't really have any other auction alternatives do we?
Yes if you are smart then you should be ok (although my smart cousin lost his deposit money for a flat) . But the problem is Internet is available to everyone, even to the granny who never used a comp before.
usually these kind of naive people are becoming a victim. Just search gumtree fraud or gumtree scam on google news search thousands on result come up! Apparently police stopped taking this crime reports as they are too many of them.
You are not giving that 12% to ebay and paypal but do remember that actually you are doing them a favour by using gumtree, which is own by ebay and paypal.
That's what happened when capitalism reach at its pick and consumers don't have much choice.
Once again I prefer to use other smaller and safer sites then any of the above named site.
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I do still use eBay, cause we don't really have any other auction alternatives do we?
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eBid.net is an alternative to Ebay.
The alternative I used for Gumtree.com is OzAdz.com. I love their Personals section lol.
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eBid.net is an alternative to Ebay.
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I don't think it's a viable alternative though. For example, there's 1 Nexus S for sale on eBid. If I'm looking for a phone, why would I go to eBid. If I'm selling, why would I start an auction on eBid, next to no-one see's it and my item sells at a crazy low price
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I don't think it's a viable alternative though. For example, there's 1 Nexus S for sale on eBid. If I'm looking for a phone, why would I go to eBid. If I'm selling, why would I start an auction on eBid, next to no-one see's it and my item sells at a crazy low price
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One reason to use smaller websites like ebid is because less people will bid, so you may pick up a bargain.
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One reason to use smaller websites like ebid is because less people will bid, so you may pick up a bargain.
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That's exactly what I'm saying, thanks. Very bad for sellers, not a viable option.
Hello everyone, I have some stuff to sell, as well as a couple of others I would like to purchase. Is purchasing and selling through ebay safe? I really don't want to sign up for Paypal, so do you think it would be possible to conduct business without a need for Paypal? Thanks
You need PayPal for eBay that's just how it works... As far as safe goes I've never had a bad eBay experience and I have bought upwards of 50 items.
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follow the "tips for sellers" and tips for "buyer and seller protection" and u should be cool with paypal
ud be much safer if u do paypal only , as most scammars use other methods .
also , if a guy with -1, 0 , 1 or 2 bids an unreasonable amount on your stuff , it should raise a huge red flag in your head(too good to be true)
eBay is perfectly safe and i've bought and sold lots of things. Paypal is safer than other payment options. If you do have any problems you contact paypal or ebay and they will deal with it.
If it wasn't safe million of people wouldn't be using it.
Having recently bought and sold a few things on ebay, I would definitely recommend it!
So long as you put some effort in to your sales (good quality pictures, and good descriptions) then you are bound to sell.
Just be wary of VERY new users, and those with no activity in the last year or so.
I was selling my Galaxy S on ebay, and had to list it THREE times because scammers had won the auction. and then tried sending me fake paypal emails and getting me to send the item whilst 'payment was processed with Western Union'
I would suggest that you ONLY accept payment via paypal, and that you take control of your auction.
I cancelled the bids of people I didn't trust, ended the auction early and sold to the current high bidder. £20 less, but it was clear from their ratings that they could be trusted.
I've been buying stuff at ebay. I got this phone there too.
Paypal is required if you want to be entitled to the Buyer's Protection Program.
Haven't tried selling though.
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Im currently hooked on ebay......
Sold my old N95 and a W850i....... Reinvesting the money in "broken" phones...
Just look at the user feedbacks, a lot of people ask that users with a low number of feedbacks dont bid on their items. You could try that but beware you may be excluding genuinely honest people who just dont use ebay very much.
Paypal allows you to claim back you money if you dont receive an item as well so its not really a bad thing. You dont have to give them your bank details either if you dont want to.
If your selling high value items then take a not of serial numbers etc..
In case some twat tries to get a refund on his broken down crap and keep the working one you sent him.
So I had about $200 to spend on a cell and wanted something with a key bored.
Long story short, I won a my touch 3g slide on ebay for $144.50 from "bigpetesales" and I paid on the 16 of April. Well its not May 11 and still nothing.
I tried to contact him threw ebay 2 weeks ago to see if he had a tracking number for me and didnt hear anything back which I thought was weired since every other time I asked him a question he would respond asap. Any ways I filed a clam with paypal but fell Im not gonna get money back and in the end, get the shaft.
Just wanted to let you peeps know of my transaction with "bigpetesales" from ebay and give a warning to the community.
just try dispute on paypal =)...all will be solve
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So I had about $200 to spend on a cell and wanted something with a key bored.
Long story short, I won a my touch 3g slide on ebay for $144.50 from "bigpetesales" and I paid on the 16 of April. Well its not May 11 and still nothing.
I tried to contact him threw ebay 2 weeks ago to see if he had a tracking number for me and didnt hear anything back which I thought was weired since every other time I asked him a question he would respond asap. Any ways I filed a clam with paypal but fell Im not gonna get money back and in the end, get the shaft.
Just wanted to let you peeps know of my transaction with "bigpetesales" from ebay and give a warning to the community.
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is he/she on this forum?
I'd say **** on their feedback, and dispute on PayPal and eBay.
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is he/she on this forum?
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Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.
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Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.
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I should think it is up to the seller to prove it wasn't delivered. Your dispute should work.
On a side note, T-Mobile is offering these for free with 2 year activation, through 12 May:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...zygt*VAygtzlw*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf
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Not sure. Hope so, so maybe I can get this sorted out.
As for the dispute on paypal. I allready did but, because the sale price was not over $150 paypal dose not require signature verification to prove it was delivered.
I paid $144.50 without shipping so Im up ****s creek without a paddle.
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Don't worry. If he doesn't prove the tracking is moving, paypal will be in your favor.
He sold stuff before but wasn't active in ebay for couple months now. Maybe his account got hacked.
Either way, you're protected by eBay buyer protection and paypal too.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=bigpetesales&ftab=AllFeedback
Is it just me or does this thread have nothing to do with the XDA Marketplace?
eBay can solve all of your problems, they always have for me. They side with the buyer 99% of the time unless it's obvious otherwise.
chambo622 said:
Is it just me or does this thread have nothing to do with the XDA Marketplace?
eBay can solve all of your problems, they always have for me. They side with the buyer 99% of the time unless it's obvious otherwise.
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It is a cell phone transaction and since many of us use eBay and market for sales/trade, its nice to have a heads up on him. I appreciate the info.
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I should think it is up to the seller to prove it wasn't delivered. Your dispute should work.
On a side note, T-Mobile is offering these for free with 2 year activation, through 12 May:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones...zygt*VAygtzlw*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf*VyBpAgf+mA55Byf
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I am in Canada and need an AWS cell to use on the Wind network, but thanks for the tip any ways.
Also I know that this has nothing to do with a transaction on xda but as stated I just wanted to give a heads up in case some one from here was shopping on ebay and came across that seller.
As for paypal, I could win but get nothing if he withdrew his funds out of his account, this is what I was told by paypal yesterday when I called them.
if you win, paypal will get all money for you.....
if user don't have money in him account, we will have a negative money on him account...and paypal will persue him to revenge xD loool
Sooo I got an update from ebay/paypal, the seller updated the tracking info.... "usps #1111111111111111111"
Yup I think I got screwed.
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Sooo I got an update from ebay/paypal, the seller updated the tracking info.... "usps #1111111111111111111"
Yup I think I got screwed.
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Wow, that's pretty a messed up/ballsy thing to do. Needless to say if you file a claim that you'll get your money back with ease simply based on that.
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Wow, that's pretty a messed up/ballsy thing to do. Needless to say if you file a claim that you'll get your money back with ease simply based on that.
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He didn't even try to fake it.
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Nope, all 1's. It is what it is. I just hope I get my money back.
If a paypal rep looks at it, they would probably look at the tracking # and say something. Wish you the best of luck on that one.
Surprised. A hundred and something positives, no neg feedback on that user. That sucks to get shafted like that.
Good luck on getting it back from Paypal, though it should be a pretty easy claim.
Thanks guys. I dont know whats gonna happen as I was told by a person from paypal that I can win the claim but there could be no funds in the sellers account, so I would get nothing back.
I just had a paypal dispute close a little while ago for $250. seller took out all the money in his account, won the case, pay pal put his account into the negative and gave me my money back asap. told me it was there problem not mine. so its worth a shot... and this was a pay pal dispute that was from a forum not a eBay purchase which they are more willing to help with because of image. good luck
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I just had a paypal dispute close a little while ago for $250. seller took out all the money in his account, won the case, pay pal put his account into the negative and gave me my money back asap. told me it was there problem not mine. so its worth a shot... and this was a pay pal dispute that was from a forum not a eBay purchase which they are more willing to help with because of image. good luck
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If the seller don't got a credit card or bank account linked, there's no funds to take from. . Best of luck on getting your money back OP.
So here is my absolute HORROR STORY of dealing with PayPal.
I sold a phone on eBay (an Evo with a clean ESN and rooted w/ICS) and the seller emails me a few days later saying the phone can't be activated and they were on the phone with sprint for 3 hours and the "other Evo they bought was able to be activated (wtf? why would they buy two for the same account??)" so I asked them for the ESN number to double check... they give me the serial number. REALLY? You've been on the phone with Sprint for "3 hours" but don't know the damn ESN number??? The person is obviously a LIAR. I eventually get them to give me the ESN (which sprint says they can activate and say they haven't had anyone trying to activate the ESN... proving they are a liar). I ask why they didn't just go to the store since I looked up their address and they had one close by. They ignore the question and say they are going to file a report against me. I say go ahead, thinking paypal will listen to my evidence.... NOPE!!!!!
PayPal completely IGNORES the evidence and after freaking WEEKS they give her the money back!!! I have NO PHONE, NO TRACKING NUMBER, and NO MONEY!!!
WTF!!!
Oh and get this.. "the phone can't be activated because it has ICS...". I literally screamed in anger when I read this. I've activated phones rooted with ICS a million times, and it was in the damn description that it had ICS.
I'm calling PayPal tomorrow and telling them to give me the money, or give me a tracking number, or I'm filing a damn police report.
I used to take up for Paypal when others would report similar issues; but, when it happened to me, I finally understood just how merciless Paypal can be.
I had an old iTunes account floating out there that I forgot to cancel, and also forgot to pull my info from the account. It was totally my fault for leaving the stuff out there like that, I don't deny it, but what happened next forever changed my view of Paypal.
Somehow, someone got ahold of this account, and purchased two iTunes gift cards in the amount of $50 each. As soon as these hit my bank, I contacted Paypal, and explained that I had no idea what was going on. Their reply was that they were freezing my account, and that I needed to contact Apple and try and find out what was going on.
While I was going 'round and 'round with Apple, three more charges went through on my "frozen" account with Paypal. Meanwhile, Paypal support swore up and down that there was no way that someone could use a frozen account.
Finally, Apple found the old account, closed it, and refunded all of the purchases. Paypal never really lifted a finger to help me.
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So here is my absolute HORROR STORY of dealing with PayPal.
I sold a phone on eBay (an Evo with a clean ESN and rooted w/ICS) and the seller emails me a few days later saying the phone can't be activated and they were on the phone with sprint for 3 hours and the "other Evo they bought was able to be activated (wtf? why would they buy two for the same account??)" so I asked them for the ESN number to double check... they give me the serial number. REALLY? You've been on the phone with Sprint for "3 hours" but don't know the damn ESN number??? The person is obviously a LIAR. I eventually get them to give me the ESN (which sprint says they can activate and say they haven't had anyone trying to activate the ESN... proving they are a liar). I ask why they didn't just go to the store since I looked up their address and they had one close by. They ignore the question and say they are going to file a report against me. I say go ahead, thinking paypal will listen to my evidence.... NOPE!!!!!
PayPal completely IGNORES the evidence and after freaking WEEKS they give her the money back!!! I have NO PHONE, NO TRACKING NUMBER, and NO MONEY!!!
WTF!!!
Oh and get this.. "the phone can't be activated because it has ICS...". I literally screamed in anger when I read this. I've activated phones rooted with ICS a million times, and it was in the damn description that it had ICS.
I'm calling PayPal tomorrow and telling them to give me the money, or give me a tracking number, or I'm filing a damn police report.
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I think you are not the only one. This is the leaking of the rule and the buyers do like to take advantages on it...
still the paypal the safest website for internet commerical
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still the paypal the safest website for internet commerical
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yeah!
Paypal is a good example of a company that has become too big to care. I've had dozens of problems with them, from bugs in their website, to bs big company politics. Unfortunately, in the end, where else are you gonna go?
Pay pal was a great site. You could look into Amazon Payments.
That sucks man PayPal should at least guarantee that the item gets returned to seller then refund the money. Best of luck
Sent From Galaxy Bigger Than Yours.
I had a paypal account suspended years ago when my sister in law, with the same name as me, screwed someone over on ebay. Same name, same TOWN, so they told me they considered it the same person.
I literally had to convince her to get a scan of her ID and mine to sort it, and it took weeks after the info was sent in.
Since then, I still use it, but I attach it to an account that I ONLY use for paypal and I never leave money in there for longer than I need to for a purchase.
In my experience paypal is all about supporting customers and just pushing aside sellers, which is proven by your case, they just always assume that the seller is some dodgy no code crook when often its the other way round
Yeah, horrible situation. How they can simply refund the purchaser's money without making sure that the seller gets the original item back is beyond ridiculous. Obviously it would take some capital but this would be a great time for someone else to step in and create a secure site.
Would it be possible to implement a system that acts as escrow, holding the buyer's funds electronically until the transaction is complete and only refunding the cost if the original item is first returned to the seller in case of dissatisfaction?
The escow style idea should be the way that it is. I have had to return an item bought via paypal and I was told in order for the seller to get the money back I needed to show proof of shipping with tracking. I had no problem with this, of course. I do know that the money was not pulled from me until I provided this.
I think paypal plays on a case by case basis for some crazy reason, because the stories that you read/hear about often have no real similarities.
I'm glad my dealings with PayPal have been limited to using them as an intermediary for credit card transactions with sketchy sellers (mostly eBay). I'm not giving anyone direct access to my bank account, especially with stories like these... jeeze.
I had many of good and bad experiences with paypal. They've rolled on me and gave my money back to a buyer. Luckily, I got the sold item back.
I had my identity stolen using paypal and they had my back like no other. It overdrew the associated bank acount by 2000 dollars, and not only was it all reimbursed, but they covered my overdraft fees and gave me 200 dollars for the inconvience. I also got the bank to waive the same overdraft fees and came out another 150 dollars ahead.
The cookie crumbles both ways.
Me and paypal are good.
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Another reason:
Some weird buseniss took some money from account. So I asked paypal to but it back, they did. And then I had to do security check to see of my account was hacked. I had to sent a letter from my bank with adress etc. But I do everything only, so they say to send bill for electricity, but I dont get no bills, I live with my parents. I used paypal 2 years ago for the last time, I was a happy user, but know there are still 50 freaking euros I cant, get back
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wow such horrible stories! seems like sometimes we really feel powerless against these big companies right ?
Yeah ik bro. There were multiple times when paypal would just refund the buyer's money and I would end up getting scammed even though the phones/tablets I was selling were perfectly functional. I soon realized after this happened to me twice that paypal is just a plain scam and I stopped selling stuff on ebay.
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So here is my absolute HORROR STORY of dealing with PayPal.
I sold a phone on eBay (an Evo with a clean ESN and rooted w/ICS) and the seller emails me a few days later saying the phone can't be activated and they were on the phone with sprint for 3 hours and the "other Evo they bought was able to be activated (wtf? why would they buy two for the same account??)" so I asked them for the ESN number to double check... they give me the serial number. REALLY? You've been on the phone with Sprint for "3 hours" but don't know the damn ESN number??? The person is obviously a LIAR. I eventually get them to give me the ESN (which sprint says they can activate and say they haven't had anyone trying to activate the ESN... proving they are a liar). I ask why they didn't just go to the store since I looked up their address and they had one close by. They ignore the question and say they are going to file a report against me. I say go ahead, thinking paypal will listen to my evidence.... NOPE!!!!!
PayPal completely IGNORES the evidence and after freaking WEEKS they give her the money back!!! I have NO PHONE, NO TRACKING NUMBER, and NO MONEY!!!
WTF!!!
Oh and get this.. "the phone can't be activated because it has ICS...". I literally screamed in anger when I read this. I've activated phones rooted with ICS a million times, and it was in the damn description that it had ICS.
I'm calling PayPal tomorrow and telling them to give me the money, or give me a tracking number, or I'm filing a damn police report.
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Another example of corruption....
Very sorry for you sir
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