Hi, I recently bought the htc one international version.
I installed android revolution hd ROM and the elemantalx kernel.
While charging, I am having a notification stuck in status bar "Slow charging, to charge faster, use the original charge"
How can I resolve this issue ?
Thanks
try to use another charger and see if it disappears. maybe you need a new one. if it's not related to the charger, try to flash another rom and see if it's still there. don't know what else you could do..
Karim Kahale said:
Hi, I recently bought the htc one international version.
I installed android revolution hd ROM and the elemantalx kernel.
While charging, I am having a notification stuck in status bar "Slow charging, to charge faster, use the original charge"
How can I resolve this issue ?
Thanks
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You're hooked up to a weak charger. You get that message when the phone can't draw all the current it needs.
I received the same message as the OP as i use my notebook to charge my One though i have only see it once.
John.
I'm having what sounds like the same problem. Plugging in the charger gives me a pop-up message, and then there's a permanent message in the notification area. Does anyone know exactly what is causing this? The charger I'm using is supposed to be able to deliver 2A: if the problem is that actually it can't even deliver 1A then I need to get it replaced; if it's the phone being stupid then it would be helpful to know why it's doing it.
iElvis said:
You're hooked up to a weak charger. You get that message when the phone can't draw all the current it needs.
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Are you sure about that, or just guessing?
Shasarak said:
I'm having what sounds like the same problem. Plugging in the charger gives me a pop-up message, and then there's a permanent message in the notification area. Does anyone know exactly what is causing this? The charger I'm using is supposed to be able to deliver 2A: if the problem is that actually it can't even deliver 1A then I need to get it replaced; if it's the phone being stupid then it would be helpful to know why it's doing it.
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i would stick to a 1A charger. it even says to on the back of the phone. you could cause extra loads on the charging units
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i would stick to a 1A charger. it even says to on the back of the phone. you could cause extra loads on the charging units
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Surely any modern smartphone limits the current that it draws to what it can use?
But actually I wasn't proposing to use it to charge my phone regularly, anyway, I just hooked it up as a test. What I actually want it for is charging an external battery which is capable of drawing a full 2A from a mains charger. If the reason I'm getting the message is because the charger can't deliver even 1A, then I need to know that!
It would also be handy to know what the cause is if I ever do buy an extra charger for the phone... so I can avoid running into the same problem then.
I like my gadgets, i have ordered one of these usb adapters, it show`s the amount of power your phone/device is pulling from the usb port/adapter it has 5 bars showing up to 5 watts or 1000ma.
They are $19 each + $5 for international posting.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power
John.
HTC assumes the thing on the end of a USB cable can deliver 0.5A unless the data pins are shorted, then it assumes 1A.
I.e., if a charging device doesn't connect the data pins, the phone will only draw up to 0.5A.
I bought another usb adapter, that has the pins shorted inside, you just plug it into your usb adapter and then plug your normal usb cable into it, so you get maximum charge rate from any usb port.
http://www.mytrendyphone.co.uk/shop/samsung-p1000-galaxy-63928p.html
John.
BenPope said:
HTC assumes the thing on the end of a USB cable can deliver 0.5A unless the data pins are shorted, then it assumes 1A.
I.e., if a charging device doesn't connect the data pins, the phone will only draw up to 0.5A.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
I bought another usb adapter, that has the pins shorted inside, you just plug it into your usb adapter and then plug your normal usb cable into it, so you get maximum charge rate from any usb port.
http://www.mytrendyphone.co.uk/shop/samsung-p1000-galaxy-63928p.html
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Is that a full-size USB connector, or micro-USB? Can't really see from the picture.
It`s full size, no other adapter needed.
John.
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Is that a full-size USB connector, or micro-USB? Can't really see from the picture.
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It`s full size, no other adapter needed.
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That won't help me with my present situation, as the charger has a hardwired micro-USB plug and nothing else.
Interesting for other situations, though.
If there were something similar that was micro-USB to micro-USB that might work.
Are you on 4.2.2? The problem has been solved with htc turning on qualcomm quick charge.
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Are you on 4.2.2?
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Yes.
prinzhernan said:
The problem has been solved with htc turning on qualcomm quick charge.
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What problem, exactly?
prinzhernan said:
Are you on 4.2.2? The problem has been solved with htc turning on qualcomm quick charge.
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Can you explain little further please?
Thanks in advance
It`s a pity you cannot enable/disable the qualcomm quick charge as i prefer a slow charge as fast charging produces more heat and is bad for the battery life as fitting a new battery is an return to htc job, I have heard it`s about a 1/3 faster?.
John.
Yeah it's much faster now after the 4.2.2 update. And also, before the update my phone used to charge in usb mode in both my apple chargers and my extra battery packs. Now, it charges on ac mode, thankfully. This leads me to believe that qualcomm quick charge is turned on because in their website one of the features of this is power source detection (it knows whether it's a usb source or ac).
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Are you sure about that, or just guessing?
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It's per a support statement from HTC that I found the first time I got that warning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38754739&postcount=8
Apparently it's trying to activate quick charging, and if it can't, you get that notification.
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It`s a pity you cannot enable/disable the qualcomm quick charge as i prefer a slow charge as fast charging produces more heat and is bad for the battery life as fitting a new battery is an return to htc job, I have heard it`s about a 1/3 faster?.
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"Fast charging" is simply charging at the AC rate via USB. It's no different than having it plugged into the wall.
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Hi,
I just stuck here, cause I found a thread about fast usb charging. But there is no answers or solutions.
I have many htc devices. It seems that some of them has a problem with 3rd party usb chargers.
My most used device is Universal. It suck a lot of power. THis one doesn't enable usb charging at all, until you put it in sleep mode before pluging the charger.
Anyway, the same issue for Kaiser too.
The problem is, that it doesn't matter how much current is the charger able to deliver. They just use some kind of recognition of original chargers.
What I already measured: Original charger and universal running => takes 1200mA. 3rd party charger or my 5A PSU => Universal/Kaiser sucks just 500mA.
This is fast/slow charge. I found here discussion about 4 and 5 pins shorted??
But WTF which 4 & 5 pin?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
According to this pinout. It would be 2 GND of Audio side? I'm not sure that original charger use extUSB audio side to charge...? It also could be D & A pins, but I'm afraid to connect 5V to Data- pin.
Anyway, someone here have to know it.
If not, in a few days I'll try all possible combinations and post the results.
Thanks
Shef
I'd also be interested to know about this. When I charge my TYTN II via USB, it takes much longer to charge than if I charge it via the mains charger (I prefer USB since I travel a lot and it's one less charger I need to carry around).
Better still, is it possible to buy a USB cable that will charge at the same rate as the mains charger rather than messing with a USB cable with the associated risks?
Best,
Gary.
Shef said:
Hi,
What I already measured: Original charger and universal running => takes 1200mA. 3rd party charger or my 5A PSU => Universal/Kaiser sucks just 500mA.
This is fast/slow charge. I found here discussion about 4 and 5 pins shorted??
But WTF which 4 & 5 pin?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config
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a usb port only supplies 500ma, while the wall charger does 1200ma as the OP has measured (although it says 1A at the back of the charger). changing a cable is not gonna superpower up your usb port.
unless maybe you get hold of a forked USB cable, like the one that Seagate Free Agent drives come supplied with... you know, 1 mini USB splitting halfway down to two normal USB plugs.
Worth experimenting with, do you think?
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unless maybe you get hold of a forked USB cable, like the one that Seagate Free Agent drives come supplied with... you know, 1 mini USB splitting halfway down to two normal USB plugs.
Worth experimenting with, do you think?
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good call.......with a little googling i came up with this
http://www.universaluk.com/acatalog...2_x_Type_A_to_mini_B__USB_2_0__1m__Lindy.html
tried ebay, my brief search came up with lots of unrelated results, so i gave up
I got one of those leads, came with my portable 2.5" hard drive. Just tried the lead on my Tytn 2 and it does charge almost as fast as the mains plug
Success
Ok, so, I tried to experiment.
Here you go.
Usb simple cable 480ma charge.
The same result with Motorola charger.
Motorola charger pins A and B short circuit - 890mA.
That's much better, althrough I suppose it can suck more current then 890mA, but it's significantly better.
THere is also pins data+ and data- short circuited (I don't know if it has effect, but I can't disconnect it in this connector).
Apparently NC (not connected) pin on our pinout schematics definitely is connected.
With % of charged battery it suck less and less current....I suppose it's usual, this should be even driven by ROM.
So, update your cables
It works even with car charger, so no more charger problems...
Shef
Just to be clear - you took a Motorola USB cable and shorted pins A and B (which are which by the way?) and it provides a decent current....
How do you short the pins? I've looked in the end of cable and I can hardly see the pins, let alone short them! What's the trick here or have I missed something?
Thanks,
Gary.
Shef said:
Ok, so, I tried to experiment.
Here you go.
Usb simple cable 480ma charge.
The same result with Motorola charger.
Motorola charger pins A and B short circuit - 890mA.
That's much better, althrough I suppose it can suck more current then 890mA, but it's significantly better.
THere is also pins data+ and data- short circuited (I don't know if it has effect, but I can't disconnect it in this connector).
Apparently NC (not connected) pin on our pinout schematics definitely is connected.
With % of charged battery it suck less and less current....I suppose it's usual, this should be even driven by ROM.
So, update your cables
It works even with car charger, so no more charger problems...
Shef
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Also interested in how to short the pins. I use Navizon, bluetooth HSDPA tethering, and iGuidance while on the ambulance and even my iGo 3A max rated charger can barely keep up because the tilt wont accept all of the available current.
So have anyone found a way to fast charge our ppc through usb??
Yes, that is correct. Short pins 4 & 5 (4 is normally NC) to enable fast-charging. If you do it correctly, the phone shouldn't pick up tethering, and therefore should not say "PC Connected" or the like..
The TracyAndMatt pinout is wrongly numbered. The pin assignments are correct, but the number/letter scheme they used is incorrect. True ExtUSB pinout translation to their pinout is as follows:
T & M Real ExtUSB
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Pins E D C B A = 1 2 3 4 5
Pins 1 2 3 4 5 6 = 6 7 8 9 10 11
The way I remember is that the corner opposite the angled one is where pin 1 starts (where E is on the T&M pinout) - and they go like most IEC-standard connectors, in a clock-like circular numbering scheme.
Here's a better pinout: http://pinouts.ru/PDA/htc_extUSB_pinout.shtml
Hope this helps!
--W5i2
its the milliamps that is the problem even doubling up with a y splitter does not do much Find a charger with the most milliamps for a faster charge 1.2 amps works best and as far as i know no usb port puts out that much even if they are wired in a series. Many try to sell lower amp chargers they dont even know about it at att. if the screen is off they will charge but not well these phones are energy hogs. I must have at least twenty chargers and messed around with them... the original or one of highest amperage works for me.
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
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/* A9 reports USB charging when helf AC cable in and China AC charger. */
/* Work arround: notify userspace AC charging first,
and notify USB charging again when receiving usb connected notificaiton from usb driver. *
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I find this annoying. I can't tell if my wall charger is fast charging or not because the G1 always says "AC"
hgmichna said:
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
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That is not going to help HTC owners.
HTC charging cable
kiss_se said:
That is not going to help HTC owners.
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http://winhlp.com/node/855 was explicitly written for HTC smartphone owners.
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[...] was explicitly written for HTC smartphone owners.
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Sorry, I meant to say: That is not going to help extusb owners.
hgmichna said:
Check winhlp.com/node/855 for the answer.
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Is it possible to get one of the 'fast charge' enabled USB cables on eBay or elsewhere? I am not keen on doing the mod described.
What is the maximum mAh recommended for HTC devices? Is it still 1.2 A or more?
zurpher said:
Is it possible to get one of the 'fast charge' enabled USB cables on eBay or elsewhere? I am not keen on doing the mod described.
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Check http://winhlp.com/node/855#qaes for the only buyable solution I know, besides compatible chargers. Your best bet is probably the original HTC charger, available for roughly $10.
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What is the maximum mAh recommended for HTC devices? Is it still 1.2 A or more?
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There can be no recommended maximum mAh. There can only be a required current, which differs from device to device. Check Ohm's Law. The device determines how much current it draws. If the charger cannot deliver that current, then the charging process can fail in various ways, all undesirable.
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Check http://winhlp.com/node/855#qaes for the only buyable solution I know, besides compatible chargers. Your best bet is probably the original HTC charger, available for roughly $10.
There can be no recommended maximum mAh. There can only be a required current, which differs from device to device. Check Ohm's Law. The device determines how much current it draws. If the charger cannot deliver that current, then the charging process can fail in various ways, all undesirable.
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Could the USB Switching 2A Power Charger Adapter Convertor Plug be similar in function to the one that you've linked?
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Could the USB Switching 2A Power Charger Adapter Convertor Plug be similar in function to the one that you've linked?
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I don't know, but probably not. Apple used to use a different signalling scheme involving resistors.
I haven't seen a thread that addresses this specifically:
After reading the threads in this section, it seems that the consensus is that the "fast charging" aspect of the NC is based on extra pins in the special NC cable. When connected to any charger with 1.9amps or greater, you will get the fast charge.
My experience is different.
Using the OEM NC cable:
1. Connected to OEM charger, stock ROM - settings say charging, flashes an icon with charging percent on connection and removal
2. Connected to OEM charger, CM7 - settings say Charging (AC).
3. Connected to 2.1 and 2.0 amp chargers, stock - settings say Not Charging.
4. Connected to 2.1 and 2.0 amp chargers, CM7 - settings say Charging (USB)
Using the generic microusb cables (2 or 3 tried):
1. Connected to OEM charger, stock ROM - Can't remember, but not going back to stock!
2. Connected to OEM charger, CM7 - settings say Charging (AC).
3. Connected to 2.1 and 2.0 amp chargers, stock - settings say Not Charging.
4. Connected to 2.1 and 2.0 amp chargers, CM7 - settings say Charging (USB)
This seems to imply that the OEM charger is required to really use the extra pins in the NC OEM cable. Can anyone test and confirm this?
Alan
The nook charger puts out almost 2A of power, where normal usb chargers and ports on computer only put out 500mA. The cable that the nook comes with has some terminations in it that allow the nook to tell when it is connected to the nook charger. It will charge at a much faster rate when using the combination of the charger and cable that came with the nook. Replace either the cable or the charger with anything else and you get low power charging mode which is very slow.
Nook Charger
I keep seeing reports of people getting a fast charge using various other equipment, as long as the chargers are rated >= 1.9A.
Can anyone confirm or deny this? Any testing?
As long as a charger puts out near 2A of current, it should work. The charger itself is just a four pin USB charger. The cable itself... lots of pins in the connector to the NC.
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As long as a charger puts out near 2A of current, it should work. The charger itself is just a four pin USB charger. The cable itself... lots of pins in the connector to the NC.
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That's what everyone's been saying, but it doesn't work that way in my testing. I have tried 3rd party chargers that output 2.0 and 2.1A, using the OEM cable. None of them are recognized as an AC charger. If we knew how the NC knows when it's connected to the original charger, we could find a way to modify something available at WalMart to quick charge our NC's. There's plenty of Ipad chargers (2.1A) available. The one I have doesn't work, though.
Alan
Update to my previous post:
When I got home from work I tested my ipad charger (2.1A) with the nook color cable and it seemed to act like the nook charger. I did not think any charger but the nc one would work, but it seems it does.
I am jealous. My Ipad charger (OEM) paired with the nook cable shows Charging (USB) under Settings --->About Tablet--->Status. I would love know how to get it to say Charging (AC) .
Alan
Keep your eyes open people...as soon as I return to work and have extra cash I plan on ordering and tearing down a charger and cable. Many have noticed poor quality in the chargers..I'm gonna try to engineer an open DIY charger and cable replacement with better filtering components. Hopefully will be creating a thread with full details in 3 weeks...
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Keep your eyes open people...as soon as I return to work and have extra cash I plan on ordering and tearing down a charger and cable. Many have noticed poor quality in the chargers..I'm gonna try to engineer an open DIY charger and cable replacement with better filtering components. Hopefully will be creating a thread with full details in 3 weeks...
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YAY! I have my soldering station warming up.
Cheers,
kev
yep, this is overdue...plugged in last night...almost burned my hand after an hour of charging. I keep my charger by the bed and the hum is just annoying when I'm feeling a bit restless.
Is there a way to identify problem chargers?
There must be some real inconsistency in the charger build quality. I've never noticed mine gets more than just a tiny bit warm and no humming. I wonder if there was a bad lot of them made? I was trying to look at the charger to see if there is a lot # or such, but can't tell what half the darned thing says. I'm posting a pic of the text on my charger in the hopes we can figure out if there is some way to identify problem chargers.
Edit: My nc came from WalMart.
Well there is a difference in the markings at least...The area circled in red...On mine it is R1101.
Still made in China
Edit: BTW my unit came from Walmart. Not sure if there would be any accounting for things like that.
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Keep your eyes open people...as soon as I return to work and have extra cash I plan on ordering and tearing down a charger and cable. Many have noticed poor quality in the chargers..I'm gonna try to engineer an open DIY charger and cable replacement with better filtering components. Hopefully will be creating a thread with full details in 3 weeks...
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Sounds great. The simple tests I have done have yielded more quetions then answers.
Looking forward to your data.
ive noticed i cant transfer data on anything other than the nook cable.
The NC cable is special. It wont fit other devices.
described over here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nook_Color
Charging the NC on a regular microUSB means much longer time.
swaaye said:
The NC cable is special. It wont fit other devices.
described over here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nook_Color
Charging the NC on a regular microUSB means much longer time.
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Yeah, this much is well known...my plan is to find out if there are "brains" in the charger or if it's just a high amp USB adapter. If the latter is true( which I suspect), then it's easy peasy to make a high power port( or just buy a quality one). If it has special circuitry...then I get to try and replicate it( with better parts) and release the plans so others can make DIY replacements.
Edit: I'm willing to bet that the extra pins in the cable are just to increase contact surface...to handle the higher amperage.
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ive noticed i cant transfer data on anything other than the nook cable.
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That is totally wrong, since other cables WILL transfer data just fine. I use an LG Micro USB cable from my old dare, and am able to ADB push, install, etc just fine.
As it is, the large end of the Nook's USB cable is normal; this means that if the nook is communicating, it is doing so over the standard USB data ports, and not through some special connection. Keep in mind that some of the extra pins from the micro side are for the status light that is built in.
Hmm R1102 here showing 1.9A output
I'm curious.. some people have talked about warranty replacements. What R versions are those?
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That is totally wrong, since other cables WILL transfer data just fine. I use an LG Micro USB cable from my old dare, and am able to ADB push, install, etc just fine.
As it is, the large end of the Nook's USB cable is normal; this means that if the nook is communicating, it is doing so over the standard USB data ports, and not through some special connection. Keep in mind that some of the extra pins from the micro side are for the status light that is built in.
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Hmm....hadn't thought of that...that charger almost has to be dumb...just higher output...the smarts all have to be in the USB/power management chip in the nook. Those extra pins must be for the led and maybe a few for handling the higher amperage. Need to check out the spec sheet for that chip again...
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Why does it HAVE to be dumb? I mean, the charger needs to do nothing more than respond to a ping, saying "Hey, im a Nook charger, take me for a 1.9A ride!". I guess that makes it dumb, but no reason said technology won't be in the charger.
This may be a dumb question. I read in another thread that a charger with less current output may not harm a phone, but it will just take longer to charge. I'm wondering if a blackberry charger rated at 5.0V, 750mAh can work safely on the milestone? The original milestone charger is rated at 5.1V, 850mAh. I haven't tried it yet though...
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This may be a dumb question. I read in another thread that a charger with less current output may not harm a phone, but it will just take longer to charge. I'm wondering if a blackberry charger rated at 5.0V, 750mAh can work safely on the milestone? The original milestone charger is rated at 5.1V, 850mAh. I haven't tried it yet though...
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I use my girlfriend's charger to charge my Milestone all the time. The way I see it, so long as the output is not greater than the Motorola-shipped one, then I should be fine.
I used a friend's Nokia charger multiple times - and it's rated 5V and 1200mA - no damage either.
The Milestone is designed to be content with Moto's 850mA charger - so if a charger CAN deliver more - it doesn't mean the Milestone does receive more.
On the other hand - I did no longterm tests to see if the Milestone CAN charge quicker with a more powerful charger.
Long story short - as long as the charger doesn't exceed 5V (which will be hard to accomplish using an unmodified USB cable - you don't have to worry about anything.
If it fits -> plug it in ;-)
If it's a USB/micro-USB charger, it will work. The current rating on the charger is the maximum it's capable of supplying. It's up to the device how much of that will be drawn.
Well, I have a few experience with charges on my Milestone. In this case, it has no problem for you Milestone...but it will take more time to charge then other charger.
I have posted this before in another thread..
As long as its a USB-Port, you can charge everything that is charged via USB. They are all (basically) the same. Its like plugging your device into the USB-Port in you computer. You wouldnt worry about plugging something in there. Same applies to Car-Chargers.
m0jo said:
I have posted this before in another thread..
As long as its a USB-Port, you can charge everything that is charged via USB. They are all (basically) the same. Its like plugging your device into the USB-Port in you computer. You wouldnt worry about plugging something in there. Same applies to Car-Chargers.
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My neighbor lost his n900 becouse he pluged his phone on a Car-Charger....he didn't saw that the Car-Charger is 12v....
In my option, it important to check the volts before plug it on your phone and yes, you need to worry about plugging something in there...
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This may be a dumb question. I read in another thread that a charger with less current output may not harm a phone, but it will just take longer to charge. I'm wondering if a blackberry charger rated at 5.0V, 750mAh can work safely on the milestone? The original milestone charger is rated at 5.1V, 850mAh. I haven't tried it yet though...
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I use a charger for my work BlackBerry to charge my Milestone on a regular basis without issue.
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My neighbor lost his n900 becouse he pluged his phone on a Car-Charger....he didn't saw that the Car-Charger is 12v....
In my option, it important to check the volts before plug it on your phone and yes, you need to worry about plugging something in there...
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mh. 12v is very uncommon. Idk, at least here in Germany (more or less whole european union) you dont have to worry about voltages. There is even a EU-Law that all phone charges can be used for every phone (USB-Based).
Sorry i dont know about the situation in T&B.
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My neighbor lost his n900 becouse he pluged his phone on a Car-Charger....he didn't saw that the Car-Charger is 12v....
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Either the Charger was violating the USB specifications (if he used a USB cable) or it coincidental used the same plug as Nokia used for their old phones.
I think that is OK, I had used BlackBerry chargers, ZTE chargers and Alcatel.. Different specs, but works OK (some of them slower than others, but are OK).
I think that there is no problem with that, just take a look to charge a phone using the PC and micro usb data cable.. Every coputer give to you different voltages and amp, but always works!
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Errrm, no.
USB always has to give 5V - more than that can cause serious damage.
The only problem with diffwrent chargers could be the current dofference, but with lower current capable chargers lile the motorola v8
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I used a droid charger on my moment and it made it go to force close hell
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I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
Don't worry.. it will work Ok, but OB charger has 1000ma, if you use another charger that has let's say 500ma (like USB) it will take 3 hours to charge the phone instead of the regular 45 minutes!
I use a samsung cable directly from USB, the car USB port, a samsung 5530 charger, a LG optimus one charger, and they all worked, with various degrees of effectiveness!
The most useful one is the car's USB port that, even if it cannot keep up with the GPS (it charges slower than the battery drains), it can keep the phone running with 10% loss every hour with screen activated and GPS at the same time! The problem is that I hate radio and don't use CD's that much, and usually end up with the phone depleted before I reach the destination!
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
BoyBawang2 said:
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Both places; battery specify working and standby V and mA, charger specify the V and mA provider
So you can use almost every different charger if the specs are the same, but be aware of this: don't use a charger with less mA since it can burn the charger
Ma - miliamps.
How many milliamps in 1 watt/volt? The answer is 1000.
I assume you are converting between milliampere and watt/volt.
I never had a burnt charger by the way, that would be very strange considering that the phone is accepting 500ma from the start (that is the USB output on any PC), and I even saw chargers with a power of 2W (SUPER FAST CHARGERS). The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
Indeed, it's very strange to have a burnt charger and we don't need to go into an electrical discussion but that happens because of 2 possible things, very high-peak of voltage or prolonged use of under-voltage
mihaiolimpiu said:
The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
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Thanks. Printed on my Moto charger is 850mA so I'll rather use it for my OB next time.
BTW, currently I'm using a replacement charger for my OB with a name "super charger" printed "4.5v - 9.5v 800ma"
It's charging at normal duration in fact I'm using it for days. The only problem is that my OB touchscreen freaks out if I use it while that charger is connected. It's obvious when I run the multitouch testing app because touch points run all over the place. Touchscreen goes back to normal if I disconnect the charger. I tested that "super charger" to my milestone and the same abnormal thing happens to the screen. What causes it?
Probably it's something to do with high voltage... I'd avoid using it if something like that happens to my phone..
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
mihaiolimpiu said:
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Like chargers with detachable MicroUSB cable?
BoyBawang2 said:
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
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Battery experts say to try and use a charger that's rated half the power of the battery.
So for a 1500 mAh battery, a charger of 850 mAh should be a better option than a 1000 mAh one.
Yes, the 1000 mAh charger would charge the battery faster than the 850 mAh one but it will decrease the lifetime of the battery faster.
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Hello, I don't want to start a new thread so I'll ask here.
The charger that came with my OB seems to be damaged. It was working properly until last last night. My phone detects the charger but it won't charge. Got powermax turned on and it automatically turned off when I connected the charger, so I know my charger does have issues.
Tried banging the charger last night, connected it to phone and started charging, woke up to see that it stopped charging 2 hours ago. It didn't even fully charge my phone. Now I'm charging it with my pc via the USB cable. I noticed that the touch screen goes wild when I use it while connected with the USB.
Now, I'm planning to buy a Galaxy S2 charger. Is it safe to use? S2 and OB has almost the same battery capacity so I'm considering it. Any other suggestions? OB ain't popular here in the Philippines so finding accessories is a real pain in the a**.
Fitted a Corby 2 charger and it seems like they use Mini-usb too. Haven't tried charging with it though.
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
roltzy said:
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
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So, you agree that I use a Galaxy S2 charger? I think it would be fine since my friend with an S2 used my charger to charge his phone and it went well. I'll ask him to buy me one tomorrow. Tnx for reply
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
Standard port - standard voltage
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
BoyBawang2 said:
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
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mihaiolimpiu said:
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Hello guys! I'm here for an update. For the past week I've been using a Corby 2 charger. And guess what, it works just fine! only downside is it won't charge it up to 100% (usually gets to 99% upon unplugging). And it charges the phone a little slower than the original charger. I always let the phone overcharge overnight to have 100% battery.
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
Huexxx said:
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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FUC* stolen how ? this it`s baaaddd ....
Am I right in assuming that I can charge the phone with any old usb charger and usb c to a cable? Would like to be able to have a spare setup plus I travel to mainland Europe quite a lot so would need a different charger there.
Eggstones said:
Am I right in assuming that I can charge the phone with any old usb charger and usb c to a cable? Would like to be able to have a spare setup plus I travel to mainland Europe quite a lot so would need a different charger there.
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Yes, it would be a problem if that weren't true.
So you are saying that I can (but won't get the speed)?
Eggstones said:
So you are saying that I can (but won't get the speed)?
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It works perfectly fine with the charger of my old ASUS Nexus 7.
Charges fine plugged in to the USB on my laptop at work, just a lot slower as you would expect.
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using the old oneplus one charger shouldnt be a problem then right?
whats more healthy for the battery, dash charging or charging it slowly (old/different charger + random usb-c cable)?
Notor1ouS- said:
using the old oneplus one charger shouldnt be a problem then right?
whats more healthy for the battery, dash charging or charging it slowly (old/different charger + random usb-c cable)?
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Charging a lithium battery slower is always better.
Do you need to use a non-dash usb-c cable to use other chargers? I tried it with the dash usb-c cable but my old Samsung charger and powerbank do not work.
in general i also think its better to load with lower speed - therefore i bought a additional loader with 2A. But i read somewhere, that the DASH charging will not heat so much. How this should be possible if this is true?
leunam2212 said:
in general i also think its better to load with lower speed - therefore i bought a additional loader with 2A. But i read somewhere, that the DASH charging will not heat so much. How this should be possible if this is true?
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Dash charging does not heat up the phone because the needed components for high-speed charging are in the wall adapter itself.
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Dash charging does not heat up the phone because the needed components for high-speed charging are in the wall adapter itself.
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ah okay, so for batterie its better to charge slowly - but for the smartphone itself dash charge would be better? i guess i will load my phone anyway only if really needed with dash