non-dash charging? - OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers

Am I right in assuming that I can charge the phone with any old usb charger and usb c to a cable? Would like to be able to have a spare setup plus I travel to mainland Europe quite a lot so would need a different charger there.

Eggstones said:
Am I right in assuming that I can charge the phone with any old usb charger and usb c to a cable? Would like to be able to have a spare setup plus I travel to mainland Europe quite a lot so would need a different charger there.
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Yes, it would be a problem if that weren't true.

So you are saying that I can (but won't get the speed)?

Eggstones said:
So you are saying that I can (but won't get the speed)?
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It works perfectly fine with the charger of my old ASUS Nexus 7.

Charges fine plugged in to the USB on my laptop at work, just a lot slower as you would expect.
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using the old oneplus one charger shouldnt be a problem then right?
whats more healthy for the battery, dash charging or charging it slowly (old/different charger + random usb-c cable)?

Notor1ouS- said:
using the old oneplus one charger shouldnt be a problem then right?
whats more healthy for the battery, dash charging or charging it slowly (old/different charger + random usb-c cable)?
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Charging a lithium battery slower is always better.
Do you need to use a non-dash usb-c cable to use other chargers? I tried it with the dash usb-c cable but my old Samsung charger and powerbank do not work.

in general i also think its better to load with lower speed - therefore i bought a additional loader with 2A. But i read somewhere, that the DASH charging will not heat so much. How this should be possible if this is true?

leunam2212 said:
in general i also think its better to load with lower speed - therefore i bought a additional loader with 2A. But i read somewhere, that the DASH charging will not heat so much. How this should be possible if this is true?
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Dash charging does not heat up the phone because the needed components for high-speed charging are in the wall adapter itself.

Someguyfromhell said:
Dash charging does not heat up the phone because the needed components for high-speed charging are in the wall adapter itself.
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ah okay, so for batterie its better to charge slowly - but for the smartphone itself dash charge would be better? i guess i will load my phone anyway only if really needed with dash

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Using different chargers question please

I have numerous chargers at home all of which have charged my evo, gs2, Nexus 7, etc.
Can these be used interchangeable in the Note 2 without harming the charging process?
Thanks
As long as the Voltage is the same (5V) there is no Problem. But you should have a charger at 2 Amper for optimal charging speed.
I just tried charging mine with the normal microUSB charger I use for every other phone I have had and it took 7.5 hours to charge from 5%-62%. I used the stock charger that was in the box and it charged it in 3.5-4 hours no problem. Seems like the charger in the box charges faster.
reading this thread made me curious, my NOTE II should arrive in about a week, I can't tell for myself yet, what is the A (amps) specification mentioned on the original charger?
as i come from HTC, my current chargers go up to 1 A current. witch is the double A a standard USB port will give unless crossover'd .
thanks in advance!
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in the wiki thread i found the answer, the supplied charger delivers 5 V 2 A output to the device.
WendigoNL said:
what is the A (amps) specification mentioned on the original charger?
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2A! Same as the Tab 10.1 charger.
Filling a 3100mAh battery requires some grunt.
i think even the usb cable makes a difference..
when i use the stock usb cable with the stock charger ..my s3 would charge up comparatively faster than with the other usb cable connected to the same stock charger.:rolleyes
max.android said:
i think even the usb cable makes a difference..
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It certainly does! :good:
All electrical cables have some resistance. Very low (but not zero) for quality cables, sometimes quite noticeable for thin and cheap offerings.
From Ohm's Law we know that voltage drop will be proportional to current. A cable with a resistance of just half an ohm will loose about 0.5% at 50mA. That's pretty much nothing. However, at 2000mA the loss reaches 20%.
dude use any charger, just don't use LG charger **** !!!!!
You must use the 5volt 2amp charger and cable provided or a replacement with the same output or youll either be waiting for ever for it to charge or do some damage.
I tryed using my note 1 charger rated at 1amp and guess what? It took about twice as long to charge.
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Some of my old 1 Amp chargers aren't happy at all, and will often decide to stop charging randomly.
I though it was something weird with my phone, but after switching chargers it never happened again.
- Frank
USA official charger
This are the images of the official USA charger that will comes when they release the device in USA
And yes its a 2.0A charger, so the SIII charger isn't appropriate for NoteII.
this is the kind of charger used in Canada, USA, and Latin America, i bought this NoteII in Mexico from an authorized Samsung provider, of course factory unlocked 710usd, like 10,900mxn.
Has anyone tried a 3A charger? Just wondering if this would speed up charging even more than the standard 2A charger.
mcdill the pig said:
Has anyone tried a 3A charger? Just wondering if this would speed up charging even more than the standard 2A charger.
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No, it won't speed it up. It's what the device takes from a charger, and not what a charger can potentially supply. If the device's charging circuit is spec'd for up to 2A current, that's what it will suck out of a charger, not more. You can connect a 30A lab power supply, and it will still be the same 2A (or less) input. To speed up the charging process, you need to mod the charging circuit of the device itself.

Slow Charge In Notification Center

Hi, I recently bought the htc one international version.
I installed android revolution hd ROM and the elemantalx kernel.
While charging, I am having a notification stuck in status bar "Slow charging, to charge faster, use the original charge"
How can I resolve this issue ?
Thanks
try to use another charger and see if it disappears. maybe you need a new one. if it's not related to the charger, try to flash another rom and see if it's still there. don't know what else you could do..
Karim Kahale said:
Hi, I recently bought the htc one international version.
I installed android revolution hd ROM and the elemantalx kernel.
While charging, I am having a notification stuck in status bar "Slow charging, to charge faster, use the original charge"
How can I resolve this issue ?
Thanks
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You're hooked up to a weak charger. You get that message when the phone can't draw all the current it needs.
I received the same message as the OP as i use my notebook to charge my One though i have only see it once.
John.
I'm having what sounds like the same problem. Plugging in the charger gives me a pop-up message, and then there's a permanent message in the notification area. Does anyone know exactly what is causing this? The charger I'm using is supposed to be able to deliver 2A: if the problem is that actually it can't even deliver 1A then I need to get it replaced; if it's the phone being stupid then it would be helpful to know why it's doing it.
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You're hooked up to a weak charger. You get that message when the phone can't draw all the current it needs.
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Are you sure about that, or just guessing?
Shasarak said:
I'm having what sounds like the same problem. Plugging in the charger gives me a pop-up message, and then there's a permanent message in the notification area. Does anyone know exactly what is causing this? The charger I'm using is supposed to be able to deliver 2A: if the problem is that actually it can't even deliver 1A then I need to get it replaced; if it's the phone being stupid then it would be helpful to know why it's doing it.
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i would stick to a 1A charger. it even says to on the back of the phone. you could cause extra loads on the charging units
IINexusII said:
i would stick to a 1A charger. it even says to on the back of the phone. you could cause extra loads on the charging units
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Surely any modern smartphone limits the current that it draws to what it can use?
But actually I wasn't proposing to use it to charge my phone regularly, anyway, I just hooked it up as a test. What I actually want it for is charging an external battery which is capable of drawing a full 2A from a mains charger. If the reason I'm getting the message is because the charger can't deliver even 1A, then I need to know that!
It would also be handy to know what the cause is if I ever do buy an extra charger for the phone... so I can avoid running into the same problem then.
I like my gadgets, i have ordered one of these usb adapters, it show`s the amount of power your phone/device is pulling from the usb port/adapter it has 5 bars showing up to 5 watts or 1000ma.
They are $19 each + $5 for international posting.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power
John.
HTC assumes the thing on the end of a USB cable can deliver 0.5A unless the data pins are shorted, then it assumes 1A.
I.e., if a charging device doesn't connect the data pins, the phone will only draw up to 0.5A.
I bought another usb adapter, that has the pins shorted inside, you just plug it into your usb adapter and then plug your normal usb cable into it, so you get maximum charge rate from any usb port.
http://www.mytrendyphone.co.uk/shop/samsung-p1000-galaxy-63928p.html
John.
BenPope said:
HTC assumes the thing on the end of a USB cable can deliver 0.5A unless the data pins are shorted, then it assumes 1A.
I.e., if a charging device doesn't connect the data pins, the phone will only draw up to 0.5A.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
I bought another usb adapter, that has the pins shorted inside, you just plug it into your usb adapter and then plug your normal usb cable into it, so you get maximum charge rate from any usb port.
http://www.mytrendyphone.co.uk/shop/samsung-p1000-galaxy-63928p.html
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Is that a full-size USB connector, or micro-USB? Can't really see from the picture.
It`s full size, no other adapter needed.
John.
Shasarak said:
Is that a full-size USB connector, or micro-USB? Can't really see from the picture.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
It`s full size, no other adapter needed.
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That won't help me with my present situation, as the charger has a hardwired micro-USB plug and nothing else.
Interesting for other situations, though.
If there were something similar that was micro-USB to micro-USB that might work.
Are you on 4.2.2? The problem has been solved with htc turning on qualcomm quick charge.
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prinzhernan said:
Are you on 4.2.2?
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Yes.
prinzhernan said:
The problem has been solved with htc turning on qualcomm quick charge.
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What problem, exactly?
prinzhernan said:
Are you on 4.2.2? The problem has been solved with htc turning on qualcomm quick charge.
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Can you explain little further please?
Thanks in advance
It`s a pity you cannot enable/disable the qualcomm quick charge as i prefer a slow charge as fast charging produces more heat and is bad for the battery life as fitting a new battery is an return to htc job, I have heard it`s about a 1/3 faster?.
John.
Yeah it's much faster now after the 4.2.2 update. And also, before the update my phone used to charge in usb mode in both my apple chargers and my extra battery packs. Now, it charges on ac mode, thankfully. This leads me to believe that qualcomm quick charge is turned on because in their website one of the features of this is power source detection (it knows whether it's a usb source or ac).
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Shasarak said:
Are you sure about that, or just guessing?
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It's per a support statement from HTC that I found the first time I got that warning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38754739&postcount=8
Apparently it's trying to activate quick charging, and if it can't, you get that notification.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
It`s a pity you cannot enable/disable the qualcomm quick charge as i prefer a slow charge as fast charging produces more heat and is bad for the battery life as fitting a new battery is an return to htc job, I have heard it`s about a 1/3 faster?.
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"Fast charging" is simply charging at the AC rate via USB. It's no different than having it plugged into the wall.

Sabrent 22AWG USB 3.0 Extension Cable works with Dash Charging.

The 3 foot cable was confirmed working on the op3 forum, I have not tried that one but I have personally bought and tested the 6 foot and can confirm that it supports dash charging. At 6 bucks this is a very inexpensive option to extend the stock cable. It also fits very tightly and I am not worried about it coming apart. (At least for now.)
Amazon
These are good news! Thanks!
hmm its a pretty long cable, would it affect the charging speed ?
if yes how much in terms of charging from 0-50 and 0-100 compared to the stock cable without extension
I have a 6ft monoprice extension that allows the phone to register dash charge but still only charges at standard rate. It's like the AC adapter can still tell the difference.
biglilsteve said:
I have a 6ft monoprice extension that allows the phone to register dash charge but still only charges at standard rate. It's like the AC adapter can still tell the difference.
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It seems to charge quite a bit quicker than the 6ft type C cable I have.
whoamanwtf said:
It seems to charge quite a bit quicker than the 6ft type C cable I have.
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You ever check out an app like Ampere to see what charging rate it registers?
biglilsteve said:
You ever check out an app like Ampere to see what charging rate it registers?
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I have but I figured that the app was wrong because it showed that me using my old i-orange micro with a micro to c adapter and my samsung s7 brick that I was charging at the same speed as with the official dash charger (This being Ampere)
whoamanwtf said:
I have but I figured that the app was wrong because it showed that me using my old i-orange micro with a micro to c adapter and my samsung s7 brick that I was charging at the same speed as with the official dash charger (This being Ampere)
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that's a bumper, ya im sure the 1+ dash charge cable has some kind of chip. an the USB A cable is a bit different if you look inside of it
cssoz said:
that's a bumper, ya im sure the 1+ dash charge cable has some kind of chip. an the USB A cable is a bit different if you look inside of it
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I meant with Ampere both these setups show the same.
Samsung + micro + micro to c adapter
Stock + Stock cable
So I figured the app is not reading dash correctly if that other setup states the same speeds.
whoamanwtf said:
I meant with Ampere both these setups show the same.
Samsung + micro + micro to c adapter
Stock + Stock cable
So I figured the app is not reading dash correctly if that other setup states the same speeds.
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Well does dash charge work then with the extension?
whoamanwtf said:
I meant with Ampere both these setups show the same.
Samsung + micro + micro to c adapter
Stock + Stock cable
So I figured the app is not reading dash correctly if that other setup states the same speeds.
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I'm not sure what you're saying here.
Extension cables work with QC2.0 and 3.0 perfectly fine. I used my monoprice 6ft USB3.0 with my Nexus 6 and it worked fine. Ampere registered about 2300mA with the N6 when quick charging. This was just about the same rating that I achieved with the stock cable and no extension.
The case of the OP3 is different. With the stock cable connected directly to the Dash Charger, Ampere registers about 3300-3400mA. With the 6ft extension in place, the phone shows "Dash Charging" on the lock screen and I get the blue Dash Charge LED charging light, but Ampere only registers about 1300mA charging.
Anyone tried this oppo vooc cable with the dash charge adaptor?
http://www.gearbest.com/samsung-cables-adapters/pp_263177.html
elementalfusion said:
Anyone tried this oppo vooc cable with the dash charge adaptor?
http://www.gearbest.com/samsung-cables-adapters/pp_263177.html
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this is not usb type C cable so you cant use with OP3
real77055 said:
this is not usb type C cable so you cant use with OP3
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Yes you can with an adapter
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biglilsteve said:
I'm not sure what you're saying here.
Extension cables work with QC2.0 and 3.0 perfectly fine. I used my monoprice 6ft USB3.0 with my Nexus 6 and it worked fine. Ampere registered about 2300mA with the N6 when quick charging. This was just about the same rating that I achieved with the stock cable and no extension.
The case of the OP3 is different. With the stock cable connected directly to the Dash Charger, Ampere registers about 3300-3400mA. With the 6ft extension in place, the phone shows "Dash Charging" on the lock screen and I get the blue Dash Charge LED charging light, but Ampere only registers about 1300mA charging.
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If 1300mA then no Dash. You got yar self an answah
Its about the juice not about the info...
BTW... If you get a 20 ft long "Dash cable'' probably the cable resistance will be so high that you could get max 300mA that's why 1+ will never produce 20ft USB..
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If 1300mA then no Dash. You got yar self an answah
Its about the juice not about the info...
BTW... If you get a 20 ft long "Dash cable'' probably the cable resistance will be so high that you could get max 300mA that's why 1+ will never produce 20ft USB..
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I wasn't asking anything. I already know dash charge wasn't happening. I just want people to know that even though the phone registers "Dash Charging" on the lockscreen, it isn't really happening with an extension.
Nobody is asking OnePlus to produce a 20ft dash cable. There's just simply no reason why we shouldn't be able to get a 2M cable. The loss due to additional resistance would be negligible.
biglilsteve said:
Nobody is asking OnePlus to produce a 20ft dash cable. There's just simply no reason why we shouldn't be able to get a 2M cable. The loss due to additional resistance would be negligible.
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I personally hate the 1m (and even more so when it comes to shorter) cables. Can't play with the phone while charging, because no jacks are ever close enough that the cable reaches the closest seating option (orher than the all present floor ) . Even in office the charger is relatively close, but when I answer the phone the cable is too short.
2m would be perfection for me at least. I know it's too long for some, but then again I'm talking about a choice to order one.
And as biglilsteve said, there is no elecro-physical limit to this 2m cable, and if the heating (if resistance grows the cable heats more) should become an issue the cable could be designed to compensate it with thicker copper (and that would be something like 10%+20% thicker I assume)
3010 mA
Just got the 3m Sabrent extension in yesterday and very pleased with the speed. I'll take it.
Screenshot isn't uploading from my phone for some reason but I got 3010 mA on Ampere.
At this point I'm quite confused about it the ability to use a extension. I want to charge my OP3 comfortably. So if I buy a USB 3.0 extension from Anker, Aukey, Amazon Basics or another brand it will charge I know that. But it will be Dash Charge or Traditional charge? Thanks
danimartinez95 said:
At this point I'm quite confused about it the ability to use a extension. I want to charge my OP3 comfortably. So if I buy a USB 3.0 extension from Anker, Aukey, Amazon Basics or another brand it will charge I know that. But it will be Dash Charge or Traditional charge? Thanks
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Don't know about others, but I personally can tell you dash charge works with the extension mentioned in the OP. You lose a couple hundred mA of charging speed, but still get around 3000 mA, which is the speed that QC3.0 runs. Perfectly acceptable!

Z3C charger specs

Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Didgesteve said:
Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
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It CAN be charged by any QC 2.0 charger but you won't get any out-of-the-box. The standard charger is EP880 paired together with EC803 charging/data cable. My original charger stopped working after just 10 months and now I'm using Blitzwolf BW-S2QC charger.
But it's true - quickcharging a phone does not even make it hot or anything like that. Unless you start using it but it's my case
I recommend buying QC 2.0 charger.
Be sure the cable you are using supports quick charge 2.0 as well
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[Q] Charger safe for use?

I have an old quick charge 2.0 car and wall charger. I know they won't work with dash but I'm just double checking to make sure they're safe and won't damage my OP3T. Seeing as how the phone accepts 4a (I think) I'm pretty sure 2.4 in will be fine. Thanks in advance!
same Q, I have a QC 2.0 and normal charger, not sure if putting 2.0 or normal charge apart from the dash charge?
It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
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It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
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What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
rockmaster said:
What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
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If I am not mistaken, most of the newer usb cables are rated at 2.1-2.4A for charging. But if you want to be safe I would suggest you take notice of what the cables are rated at. For me personally, I always follow the rules of not using lower rated cables on higher rated input.
Any high quality charger will work just fine with OnePlus, although Dash Charge will turn on ONLY will OnePlus/OPPO dash charger and official USB cable. So you are limited to lower (non dash charge) speed.
QC 1/2/3, Turbo charge, Super charge, Dash charge.. adapters are safe to use with any phone, fast charging will not engage if the phone doesnt support it.
I recommend checking this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Cool beans, sounds like I'm good to go. I'm using whatever cable the charger came with and a USB C adapter from Aukey. Works just fine! Not really too concerned about dash charge since it's sitting bedside or in the car for road trips. Thanks!
so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
karthics4 said:
so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
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Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
I use my 6 ft Nexus 6P charger as my primary and in my car I have my iOrange cable with a Maxboost 2.0 & 2.4 car charger
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trentonite said:
Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
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Thanks so much, had been w android for years, might go otherside and get iphone as i see a lot at work. i just feel left out. but then i think of the deadly iphone not charging due to 3rd party cable mesage which pops up and then wanna stay w andorid

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