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Hey folks, I'm hopping over to a new provider and they're offering me a smartphone, free of charge, and the list boils down to the LG O2X or the Nexus S (the two phones are priced the same according to this provider). I currently have a Galaxy S but it's not compatible with the new provider's bands.
On paper, the LG O2X seems to be the sound winner, but we all know that here at XDA hardware specs aren't everything.
I'd like to ask how the custom firmware selection is like with the LG O2X? Is it as easy to flash as the SGS and the Nexus S? How's the stock LG firmware? What are the ups and downs of the LG O2X?
Thanks
As a O2x owner, i say: GO FOR NEXUS S!!!
honestly, as long as nvidia doesnt release its sources,
go for nexus s.
will save you alot of headache
on paper o2x wins in specs
currently its performance is much better, but on updates and future custom rom development, its tied down because of nvidia
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Thats correct nvidia sucks. The driver lines are not gona be relased .
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dandeli21 said:
Thats correct nvidia sucks. The driver lines are not gona be relased .
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They're not?
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They're not?
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Dude can't even spell, its just his opinion.
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if u can wait for CM9 on O2x, better buy this phone
but if u want the latest and fastest upgrade, go for nexus
Majority here doesn't seem to be speaking too highly of the O2X, which is surprising since its specs are better than the Nexus S'... Would you guys say that the lack of support from nVidia is a deal breaker here? I'm also wondering how the 1080p video recording is like on the O2X since the Nexus S doesn't even record in 720p
I had a Nexus S for about a week before I got my O2X, the O2X is better, but the Nexus S has better stock software.
I wasn't interested in stock, so that made no difference to me.
go for lx o2x
now i`m using 2 phones: o2x and galaxy S
the o2x loads everything faster than the galaxy , even the original android apps (market , contacts )
both phones are running miui and as I said , o2x is better.
If you don't wanna flash anything but stock, go for the Nexus S.
If you are gonna flash a custom rom, O2X is just better in every field.
I actually think O2X is still the best Quality/Price on the market, if you are gonna play with custom roms.
Actually I'm on rooted stock gb 20m. I prefer this over the other roms I have tried. I also think the O2x is the best deal there is.
As a os2x owner I can tell you without a doubt go for it.
The only advantage you get from the Nexus is ICS, which, if you face reality, really isnt enough of a reason to buy worse hardware.
Os2x is nicely supported on CM7 and works great there, the Tegra2 gpu gives you exclusive access to several titles that utilize Nvidia extensions and overall you will have nice lagfree package with it.
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Nexus S with no doubt. Even has more memory to use.
I have both.
if you want to use stock ROM, go for Nexus S (it already have official ICS now).
if you want to use custom ROMs, go for O2X. you can learn a lot of things with it.
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Nexus S with no doubt. Even has more memory to use.
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No. No it does not.
It has the exact same amount to use. Exactly. The Nexus S has 512MB total, with 128MB reserved for the GPU. Identical to the O2X's config.
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No. No it does not.
It has the exact same amount to use. Exactly. The Nexus S has 512MB total, with 128MB reserved for the GPU. Identical to the O2X's config.
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I guess he ment on internal storage. 8vs.16.
P.s. One off topic question. I thought that "reserved ram for gpu" is only with tegra SoC. Do all SoC reserve from "specified" ram for gpu?
I had heard that Nvidia hasn't released some drivers/source code for ICS and hence ICS is not possible on tegra devices !!
If that is so, then how some ICS roms like owains and hei's have came up - ?
Also i read a post nearly 4 weeks ago in dev section that Nvidia has released the source code...!!
Will someone help to clear my confusion whether all drivers have been released or not
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Because we have good devs doing good work here in xda and among the cyanogen team.
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I had heard that Nvidia hasn't released some drivers/source code for ICS and hence ICS is not possible on tegra devices !!
If that is so, then how some ICS roms like owains and hei's have came up - ?
Also i read a post nearly 4 weeks ago in dev section that Nvidia has released the source code...!!
Will someone help to clear my confusion whether all drivers have been released or not
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they are not released otherwise we did have full hardware accelaration now
but hey we got arcee the cyanogenmod maintainer of the p990 and he is really awesome!!
I don't 100% understand the matter, but does this mean something good for us?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nvid...-is-there-hope-for-driver-development_id27845
Would be very much appreciated if a developer close to the matter say something about this
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I don't 100% understand the matter, but does this mean something good for us?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nvid...-is-there-hope-for-driver-development_id27845
Would be very much appreciated if a developer close to the matter say something about this
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well they said they will be givin us ics blobs
sources will ofc be much better but we are also happy with blobs
Hmm...Thank god we have such great hard working Devz
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Also i wanted to know one more thing -
What is NEON ??
i wanyed to use screencapture software which said that NEON is not supported by processor
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Also i wanted to know one more thing -
What is NEON ??
i wanyed to use screencapture software which said that NEON is not supported by processor
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NEON is hardware base floating point emulation which is released in cortex-a8 and in some cortex-a9. for example processor used in Samsung Galaxy S. We have software based vfpv3 vectorization in o2x. HW accelated NEON could work much better in many aspects like video decoding etc.
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NEON is hardware base floating point emulation which is released in cortex-a8 and in some cortex-a9. for example processor used in Samsung Galaxy S. We have software based vfpv3 vectorization in o2x. HW accelated NEON could work much better in many aspects like video decoding etc.
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It is a shame that neon isn't supported by the Tegra 2
Tegra 2 series
The second generation Tegra SoC has a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU (lacking ARMs advanced SIMD extension, marketed as NEON), an ultra low power (ULP) GeForce GPU with 4 pixel shaders + 4 vertex shaders,[14] a single-channel memory controller with either LPDDR2 at 600 MHz or DDR2 at 667 MHz, a 32KB/32KB L1 cache per core and a shared 1MB L2 cache.[15] There is also a version of the SoC supporting 3D displays; this SoC uses a higher clocked CPU and GPU.
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ICS related discussions here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347118
I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
GBGamer said:
I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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Why what where you hoping for? An Intel i7??
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Why what where you hoping for? An Intel i7??
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no, something open, with full data-sheets available, and open source drivers, i can tell you first hand how bad proprietary drivers suck.
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I know I am. I really hope there is a good open hardware tablet soon...
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i am not into this topic right now but afaik there is no real open source hardware competitor on a tegra 3 level
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no, something open, with full data-sheets available, and open source drivers, i can tell you first hand how bad proprietary drivers suck.
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I see what you mean. But when your trying to copy the Kindle Fire and go main stream global, you need something that proven to work. IMHO at £160 its a big anouph gamble all ready.
No, the tegra 3 isn't as good as it should be, but for web surfing, a little gaming and movies and music, its more than enough. Quit griping. Lol
People always find something to complain about. Lol
OP the problem is the price. For $200 you need to go with the cheapest high end processor available, and apparently that is what Nvidia did with the Kai El project to put out speedy, low price tablets. Personally dual core is quick enough for me, plus I just bought a 7" tablet so...
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Yes, the tegra 3 isnt the best chip-set, but if they went with the snapdragon s4 they would have horrible supply issues, as there isnt enough s4's as it is. Also this was made by asus who has an existing relationship with nvida. Google has used this as a reference platform so it will be heavily optimized so performance shouldn't be an issue especially considering the screen resolution, keep in mind this is the same processor that runs the transformer prime at 1080p, without all the new gpu goodies. fyi all current tablets run tegra 3's
Sure let's put in the top of the line CPU that costs $1000 and try to sell it main stream against the Kindle Fire priced at $199.
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Sure let's put in the top of the line CPU that costs $1000 and try to sell it main stream against the Kindle Fire priced at $199.
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I'm not talking high end, I'm talking open hardware, like TI OMAP.
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So does this mean a non developer Nexus device? So does that mean no custom ROMs? No CM9? No kernel tweaks?
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So does this mean a non developer Nexus device? So does that mean no custom ROMs? No CM9? No kernel tweaks?
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Nah, it just means slower Dev updates after Google has given it up.
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I'm not talking high end, I'm talking open hardware, like TI OMAP.
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AFAIK TI OMAP4 is performance-wise inferior to Tegra 3 in nearly every aspect, it's not wise to limit flagman device(it's Nexus, after all) capabilities just to please indy ROM developers. Especially concerning the fact that Nexus 7 is tightly bound to Google Play to squeeze from grateful consumers as much money as possible .
So does this mean a non developer Nexus device?
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It surely is a developer device, but it's for application developers, not ROM makers, because ROMs are not profitable for Google, but apps are.
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AFAIK TI OMAP4 is performance-wise inferior to Tegra 3 in nearly every aspect, it's not wise to limit flagman device(it's Nexus, after all) capabilities just to please indy ROM developers. Especially concerning the fact that Nexus 7 is tightly bound to Google Play to squeeze from grateful consumers as much money as possible .
It surely is a developer device, but it's for application developers, not ROM makers, because ROMs are not profitable for Google, apps are.
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Yea, that's why I'm hoping for a tablet with quad core OMAP5
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My opinion tegra 3 is the best CPU+GPU combo until the s4 quad core. I have a tegra 3 on my one x and hardly any lag whatsoever. Games look amazing, and amazing standby times. Maybe the nexus 7 will force nvidia to release drivers ect because of the demand
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tegra3 optimized games are by far the best Android games around. Tegra3 is no slouch, CPU or gpu wise. there will be no issues with custom roms. One X has a ton of custom roms/kernels. Prime has alot of roms also. I'm sure Nexus 7 will be far more popular than either of them.
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Yea, that's why I'm hoping for a tablet with quad core OMAP5
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For $199 ? And they don't arrive until Q3/Q4.
For 200$ hell no I'm not disappointed
Stop complaining about everything!!!
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I <3 Tegra. Got a Tegra phone and tegra tsblet... so gonna get the N7. I don't see what the problem is. Its very fast and good for gaming from the TegraZone
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The Tegra 3 is actually a pretty powerful chipset. Think it's tainted a bit by being the 'child' of the Tegra 2, which was not as great as we hoped it would be. Combined with some of the performance improvements in Jelly Bean I expect this device to fly.
i say again, MAYBE this idea will work
I've done this on my own 4X and it's still working now, no bootloop; as long as you follows my simple guide below.
Antutu: 12930 (doesn't neccesary mean anything) - Me
Real Racing 3 personal experience: Alot better. (All 4 cores fired up) - Me
Code:
I remember in the thread back in [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837924"]August 2012[/URL] that there's this fix to move NvCPLsv.apk from system/bin to system/app
to improve battery life.
then people are saying that is some profile and power management stuff for Tegra 3.
and some people are experiencing or expecting lag or improvement.
But the thing was shifting the apk infact doesn't do anything because there wasn't any .odex
Now that in V20B HK there's this apk in its 'rightful' location and that THERE's ODEX now,
i thought perhaps its exactly why we are having lag now.
because some poorly tweaked settings in nvcplsv.apk?
Remove gaming lag in V20B, Unleash Tegra 3 on LG Optimus 4X.
1. To do so, go to system/app
2. Look for NvCPLSV.apk and its NvCPLSV.odex
3. Rename them to NvCPLSV.apk.BAK
NvCPLSV.odex.BAK
4. You are done for this folder,
now go to data/dalvik-cache
5. Clear dalvik cache
6. Turn off phone
7. Boot into stock recovery (Hold Vol - and power button until you see the recovery screen)
8. Clear cache partition and nv partition, reboot phone
9. You are done, play some game.
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Don't be surprised if you don't see all 4 cores fired up all the time. Probably its because the load didn't require anything more.
But if the game was laggy and still receives 1 core treatment, try other game (developer error maybe). If still the same, then this trick isn't working.
Side effect may include increased battery consumption
To undo return step 3 to normal state, and proceed down the steps.
Im not a dev. This trick was pure logical assumptions. For assistance in CWM or other more-than-stock issue SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE HELP :laugh:
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Please write below if it works. And remember the THANKS button
I'm trying to help, please don't flame.
Please stick to discussions pertaining to anything relevant to this topic. Complains, rumor, or hope for the pending update or opinion on reputation of LG please go somewhere else. Thanks for contributing to making a clean thread finally.
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What exactly does this do?
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What exactly does this do?
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I remember in the thread back in August 2012 that there's this fix to move NvCPLsv.apk from system/bin to system/app
to improve battery life.
then people are saying that is some profile and power management stuff for Tegra 3.
and some people are experiencing or expecting lag or improvement.
But the thing was shifting the apk infact doesn't do anything because there wasn't any .odex
Now that in V20B HK there's this apk in its 'rightful' location and that THERE's ODEX now,
i thought perhaps its exactly why we are having lag now.
because some poorly tweaked settings in nvcplsv.apk?
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L2Deliver said:
I remember in the thread back in August 2012 that there's this fix to move NvCPLsv.apk from system/bin to system/app
to improve battery life.
then people are saying that is some profile and power management stuff for Tegra 3.
and some people are experiencing or expecting lag or improvement.
But the thing was shifting the apk infact doesn't do anything because there wasn't any .odex
Now that in V20B HK there's this apk in its 'rightful' location and that THERE's ODEX now,
i thought perhaps its exactly why we are having lag now.
because some poorly tweaked settings in nvcplsv.apk?
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You're onto something here, im getting good multi core usage with nova 3 now. Gonna test some other stuff and report back
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You're onto something here, im getting good multi core usage with nova 3 now. Gonna test some other stuff and report back
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Good to hear. Thanks
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I'm downloading amazing Spiderman for testing and got quite some heat, if this has disabled all thermal protection we need to be careful, for now its the same as a mc4 online sesh so nothobg extreme yet
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how to wipe NV partition with CWM?
i wiped regular & dalvik cache, tried NFS, still mostly uses one core, and has lag when running into a roadblock.
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I'm downloading amazing Spiderman for testing and got quite some heat, if this has disabled all thermal protection we need to be careful, for now its the same as a mc4 online sesh so nothobg extreme yet
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As im not a dev i have no idea whether thermal protections are gone or we are taking out poorly set gaming profile
Im receiving all 4 cores on Real Racing 3 though...
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how to wipe NV partition with CWM?
i wiped regular & dalvik cache, tried NFS, still mostly uses one core, and has lag when running into a roadblock.
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I have no idea dealing with CWM LOL
Maybe NFS at certain point of time doesn't require anything more than 1 core. idk.
me too on Real Racing 3 most of the time dont get more than 1 core. but when the time comes i got all 4 at 100%
How to measure CPUs and battery hot exactly? I think we have to be very carefully and we need to test everything on V10H or V20A.
EDIT: I still believe LG can step up somehow. If Nexus 7 can run Real Racing 3 smooth, why O4X can not? CPU is even faster (don't know about GPU MHz) than in Nexus 7.
cpu's you can track with overlay programs like perfmon, as for battery, i'm not sure which, but there are programs that measure battery temperature for sure.
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Spiderman lags as ever, I truly think gameloft screwed this game up though so I'm continuing, to test, dead trigger next
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added OT warning and updated undo method.
added comments provided. if you guys don't mind
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Dead trigger seems a little smoother, played 2 rounds in arena and the cores seem to fire up when a new wave starts. Some micro stutters but more playable than before. Seems hit & miss really, I think tegra is still being conservative with multi core use. If theres a governer for firing up the cores we need to modify that somehow
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Shadowgun deadzone also smoother, didn't check core usage though so maybe just the server
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hmmm I have V20B which has no root but I cant rename the files on OI File Manager
Should it also work with CWM?
Edit: I did with CWM, without nv partion wipe (because I didn't find!), will try now
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Shadowgun was just the server, it just lagged on me. Still not paying for premium from what I've found this does very little after playing games for longer I found games going back to one core, sadly I think I was placeboed. Theres a lot of tegra stuff in the /d folder, I wpuld bet that if therea a cure thats where to find it.
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Just tried this and ran Antutu and Quadrant.
Quadrant was 1400 points lower (4010 vs 5442) and Antutu was about 3000 points lower (10000 vs 13000), so this app IMO helps with performance.
after reinstating it, my scores went back to normal.
it was worth a shot though. cheers op
Fixed title of thread. Thanks for trying out guys
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Fixed title of thread. Thanks for trying out guys
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You're welcome, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39867039 seems the problem is the cpu up threshold is too high, meaning by the time it ramps up its already overloaded and caused some lags. By lowering this I get better multi core, this time I actually feel a significant reduction of frame dipping
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You're welcome, try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39867039 seems the problem is the cpu up threshold is too high, meaning by the time it ramps up its already overloaded and caused some lags. By lowering this I get better multi core, this time I actually feel a significant reduction of frame dipping
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Mm, wondered about that. As far as I know the access time between the cores on the bus is supposed to be extremely quick. But maybe that changes when the cores are about to idle, or it conflicts with some garbage collection taking place when they go down..? So that if all cores are active, the direct addressing to the "video ram" these apps tend to use works. But when one or two cores go up and down, the response on the calls drop? And maybe drop irregularly depending on how many processes need to unwind...? Could explain why some people seem to get crazy lag, and others don't really see it.
So, i'm getting a really low 3D Mark score for a "gaming" device like this, i think that Nvidia do something wrong with the Tegra 3 GPU, i got it running at 650Mhz and i get like 3000 points... other devices on the same range get a lot better scores... what to do to get better 3D on our 4X?
Well this is my score...I'm not sure our much other devices get, but from the results our O4X is in the same range as the Note 2...so I guess that those results aren't that bad...
Btw I used the official CM10.1.0 rom with stock cm kernel...
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JAsko_san said:
Well this is my score...I'm not sure our much other devices get, but from the results our O4X is in the same range as the Note 2...so I guess that those results aren't that bad...
Btw I used the official CM10.1.0 rom with stock cm kernel...
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i think that is a better score that i do have with V20C and iodak kernel, i will try another kernel and compare...
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So, i'm getting a really low 3D Mark score for a "gaming" device like this, i think that Nvidia do something wrong with the Tegra 3 GPU, i got it running at 650Mhz and i get like 3000 points... other devices on the same range get a lot better scores... what to do to get better 3D on our 4X?
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Are you running anything else? I ran at stock speeds (no overclock anything) and got 4100-4200 on five straight runs. I have no idea what a normal score for the Tegra 3 is supposed to be.
I get same result. My kernel nothing touched from defaults.
I think it is ok all tegra 3 devices get similar scores one x+ gets about 3800.
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for benchmarking, stock rom > aosp rom > cm based roms > other roms, from my experience. even when you bring custom kernels to the table, it's the same.
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f.e., on quadrant, stock with custom kernels could go around 6100, aosp rom we have went to 5500, cm based went up to 4800, while others went up to 4500.
Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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we have like four available kernels for stock, try all four and see which one runs the fastest. as for mc4, i could swear i saw people reporting playing that with no lag... strange
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Stock with what customs? Im using iodak is there a begter kernel? Mc4 lags as hell even at 520mhz gpu a 1600mhz cpu
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Have you tried uninstalling all these overclock softwares and testing without them?
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we have like four available kernels for stock, try all four and see which one runs the fastest. as for mc4, i could swear i saw people reporting playing that with no lag... strange
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Maybe the problem is that i use the full graphics modded APK... and not the tegra 3 that i bought via playstore... also, Dead space lags too... mabye a kernel related problem, i will flash the rom and kernel again and see...
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Maybe the problem is that i use the full graphics modded APK... and not the tegra 3 that i bought via playstore... also, Dead space lags too... mabye a kernel related problem, i will flash the rom and kernel again and see...
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yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone. didn't try dead space either, so cant really tell. i did try vice city and nfs, they ran quite good on stock for me.
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yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone. didn't try dead space either, so cant really tell. i did try vice city and nfs, they ran quite good on stock for me.
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Well i will download again from google play and come back and tell
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Flying_Bear said:
yeah, that might be the issue. unfortunately, tegra3 in our phone didn't quite live up to my expectations, which sux since even nexus7 has better performance than our phone.
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Does it? 3DMark benchmarks disagree.
I did manage to reproduce the OP's results though. I installed TegraOverclock and suddenly my 3DMark results were the same as the ones he posted. If I uninstall it I get the attached image.
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Does it? 3DMark benchmarks disagree.
I did manage to reproduce the OP's results though. I installed TegraOverclock and suddenly my 3DMark results were the same as the ones he posted. If I uninstall it I get the attached image.
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average results for nexus 7 are better than those for o4x, unfortunately.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/LG+Optimus+4X+HD/review
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average results for nexus 7 are better than those for o4x, unfortunately.
http://community.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile/LG+Optimus+4X+HD/review
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You might wish to see the image I posted on a non-overclocked phone.
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You might wish to see the image I posted on a non-overclocked phone.
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and i can post my image of benchmark with 3200 score, overclocked . since my score is as valid as yours, we might as well take the average that's on the website - and the average number says that nexus7 performs better than o4x.
on the other hand, i dont game much these days, and the games i do run, run well enough. so, it's just a benchmark, a number; however i have expected tegra3 in this phone to have higher number than tablet with practically identical chip in it
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and i can post my image of benchmark with 3200 score, overclocked . since my score is as valid as yours, we might as well take the average that's on the website - and the average number says that nexus7 performs better than o4x.
on the other hand, i dont game much these days, and the games i do run, run well enough. so, it's just a benchmark, a number; however i have expected tegra3 in this phone to have higher number than tablet with practically identical chip in it
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While it is indeed just a number, it does actually measure something. Unless my configuration is somehow exploiting it specifically to achieve those scores, you might wish to see why you underscore so much and fix it. The phones are identical after all, and no one is talking about fancy coolers or the like as exists in PCs.
Subtleone said:
While it is indeed just a number, it does actually measure something. Unless my configuration is somehow exploiting it specifically to achieve those scores, you might wish to see why you underscore so much and fix it. The phones are identical after all, and no one is talking about fancy coolers or the like as exists in PCs.
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I did some testing, and may have the answer for you. The vanilla iodak sets the CPU to 1.7GHz and the 3D and 2D GPU to 520MHz, all of which are maximum values, hence the very good 3DMark scores. If you use an app such as TegraOverclock and set those values you should get the same scores or at least very close to them. I did notice that any attempt to apply an overclock to the GPU was instantly rejected. If I tried to set it to 600MHz it was immediately set at... 300MHz, so as far as I can tell, 520 is the highest possible.
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I did some testing, and may have the answer for you. The vanilla iodak sets the CPU to 1.7GHz and the 3D and 2D GPU to 520MHz, all of which are maximum values, hence the very good 3DMark scores. If you use an app such as TegraOverclock and set those values you should get the same scores or at least very close to them. I did notice that any attempt to apply an overclock to the GPU was instantly rejected. If I tried to set it to 600MHz it was immediately set at... 300MHz, so as far as I can tell, 520 is the highest possible.
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it puts to 300mhz because is the minimun, in 520mhz the minimun is 200...
Edit: flashed back V20C, getting 3570 stock, i will flash Iodak again.. and test... without donwloading tegra overclock...
Edit again, this is with iodak v6 stock settings it seems that thegra overclock app reduces the performance of our devices...
Stock kernel has its gpu running at 200mhz base, scaling up to 416. Custom kernels can increase that, which leads to higher scores. I got 4k by increasing gpu to 520mhz. I don't see how just having tegra oc installed could break anything