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[Q] Which Unbranded Stock Rom Should I Load?

Sorry for a stupid question
But i'm just so confused with all the several stock roms that HTC offers and i just want to figure out which unbranded stock rom (don't require root) should i go with that would receive updates as they get released and would play nice with the Bell Incredible S S710a?
Also if i'm correct, after i S-OFF the device, i just need to install the recovery and then i can just flash the rom throug the recovery (just as i did with my X10) or is there something i'm missing (looking through these guides - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145541 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036581)?
Thanks and Happy New Year!
Tim

Timbits93 said:
Sorry for a stupid question
But i'm just so confused with all the several stock roms that HTC offers and i just want to figure out which unbranded stock rom (don't require root) should i go with that would receive updates as they get released and would play nice with the Bell Incredible S S710a?
Also if i'm correct, after i S-OFF the device, i just need to install the recovery and then i can just flash the rom throug the recovery (just as i did with my X10) or is there something i'm missing (looking through these guides - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145541 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036581)?
Thanks and Happy New Year!
Tim
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Since you are S-Off you should to able to follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145541
I have flashed all of the different WWE RUUs starting with 2.12.405 and I am currently running 3.08.405.3 on my S710a using this procedure.

Any need to flash a radio (guide doesn't mention it) or is it included in the ruu?

Timbits93 said:
Any need to flash a radio (guide doesn't mention it) or is it included in the ruu?
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Radio.img is a part of the RUU.

tpbklake said:
I am currently running 3.08.405.3 on my S710a using this procedure.
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I'm assuming you're running this rom now?
RUU_VIVO_SENSE30_S_HTC_WWE_3.08.405.3_Radio_20.4802.30.0822U_3822.10.08.28_M_release_227170_signed
Tried flashing that one, but got stuck at the HTC white screen for 15-20 min so i gave up and flashed back the Bell rom (which is back up)
Help?

Timbits93 said:
I'm assuming you're running this rom now?
RUU_VIVO_SENSE30_S_HTC_WWE_3.08.405.3_Radio_20.4802.30.0822U_3822.10.08.28_M_release_227170_signed
Tried flashing that one, but got stuck at the HTC white screen for 15-20 min so i gave up and flashed back the Bell rom (which is back up)
Help?
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How did you S-OFF? Did you use Revolutionary? If so that is the difference. My was unlocked and S-OFF using the XTC Clip so I didn't need to use Revolutionary.

Yeah i used Revolitionary, don't have or know anyone with a XTC Clip
Meh, might just give up and try flashing the Android Revolution HD rom (since it's essentially that rom, just cleaned up).
Thanks though!

Timbits93 said:
Yeah i used Revolitionary, don't have or know anyone with a XTC Clip
Meh, might just give up and try flashing the Android Revolution HD rom (since it's essentially that rom, just cleaned up).
Thanks though!
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Yeah that is the best course of action since you have the Revolutionary S-OFF HBOOT. It is going to prevent you from installing the official IncS Sense 3.0 RUU/ROM. I tried to build a rooted, stock ROM from the 3.08.405.3 RUU/ROM for you guys, but it will only boot if you have the official HBOOT 2.00.0000. It will not boot on the Revolutionary S-OFF HBOOT.

S-OFF Advantages ?

Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One

Thug_4_Life said:
Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
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"Yes, no need to relock bootloader."
thats enough for me ... thats good ... i hate relocking it when flashing hboot

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.

Shu. said:
I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
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no need for google edition ... no need for changing cid or flashing ruu´s
i always install renovate or mikes revolution hd and they always have the newest bases at first ...
so ... flashing hboot without relocking is benefit enough for me
thanks guys

With S-OFF you can also flash a custom splashscreens (the screen right before the bootanimation)
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318987

[Q] S-OFF Developer Edition

Hey gals,
I want to ask a noobish question:
I'v done S-OFF to my US Developer Edition device.
Hboot now 1.44
android 4.1.2
I'd like to know, if i would like to flash ViperOne rom that have 4.2.2 base, do i need to update the hboot or someting else?
Thanks

oksagi said:
Hey gals,
I want to ask a noobish question:
I'v done S-OFF to my US Developer Edition device.
Hboot now 1.44
android 4.1.2
I'd like to know, if i would like to flash ViperOne rom that have 4.2.2 base, do i need to update the hboot or someting else?
Thanks
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You Can update Hboot boot via a firmware update (which I recommend if you are still on the original 4.12 firmware, as there have been some touch driver updates that really helped the capacitive buttons, look here for a great guide and firmware packages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316726 ), but you don't Have to update Hboot to flash Viper 2.1, it will work fine either way

dgtiii said:
You Can update Hboot boot via a firmware update (which I recommend if you are still on the original 4.12 firmware, as there have been some touch driver updates that really helped the capacitive buttons, look here for a great guide and firmware packages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316726 ), but you don't Have to update Hboot not flash Viper 2.1, it will work fine either way
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Thanks for reply,
As i know there is no new HBOOT for DEVELOPER EDITION. maybe i'm wrong?
Or i need just to take a latest HBOOT and flash it?
Will i still have S-OFF?

oksagi said:
Thanks for reply,
As i know there is no new HBOOT for DEVELOPER EDITION. maybe i'm wrong?
Or i need just to take a latest HBOOT and flash it?
Will i still have S-OFF?
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It would be a good idea to update your firmware/Hboot to the 2.24 (4.22) version, so it matches the rom and you get the touch fixes I talked about. It's a good idea, but you do not have to, it's up to you. Hboot will change to 1.54, but you will stay S-off, no worries. Read that thread I linked, and I recommend this firmware https://mega.co.nz/#!nZoVXKpD!Iki5KkvxxhL9jZgJkegv_iHLbp0eHQALxAz5Nc50_rc from that thread if that's what you want to do. If that's the route you go, first update the firmware/Hboot, then flash the rom, then any custom kernels if desired

dgtiii said:
It would be a good idea to update your firmware/Hboot to the 2.24 (4.22) version, so it matches the rom and you get the touch fixes I talked about. It's a good idea, but you do not have to, it's up to you. Hboot will change to 1.54, but you will stay S-off, no worries. Read that thread I linked, and I recommend this firmware https://mega.co.nz/#!nZoVXKpD!Iki5KkvxxhL9jZgJkegv_iHLbp0eHQALxAz5Nc50_rc from that thread if that's what you want to do. If that's the route you go, first update the firmware/Hboot, then flash the rom, then any custom kernels if desired
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is this firmware good for developer edition?

oksagi said:
is this firmware good for developer edition?
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Yes! It is fine, and your phone will work better with the new touch drivers. I am not sure what the CID of the Developer's edition is, you might want to check that. Will definitely flash if Super CID (fastboot oem writecid 11111111), worked for me.
Look, before you flash firmware, you better read that guide I linked you to at the very least, I mean it. This is pretty routine, non-scary stuff, but you are S-off, and that means something. Read the thread, make sure you understand what you're doing, and I'm here to help. But I'm not trying to or going to convince you to do anything, read and decide for yourself, ok? I'm telling you it will work, but you have to decide and be comfortable

dgtiii said:
Yes! It is fine, and your phone will work better with the new touch drivers. I am not sure what the CID of the Developer's edition is, you might want to check that. Will definitely flash if Super CID (fastboot oem writecid 11111111), worked for me.
Look, before you flash firmware, you better read that guide I linked you to at the very least, I mean it. This is pretty routine, non-scary stuff, but you are S-off, and that means something. Read the thread, make sure you understand what you're doing, and I'm here to help. But I'm not trying to or going to convince you to do anything, read and decide for yourself, ok? I'm telling you it will work, but you have to decide and be comfortable
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do i need to upgrade only HBOOT or the firmware too?

oksagi said:
do i need to upgrade only HBOOT or the firmware too?
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You don't "need" to update Hboot at all, but it will update to 1.54 with the firmware update. In my opinion, you " want" to update the firmware to: get the new, much improved touch drivers, be on the same firmware as your rom (ViperOne 2.1), and get whatever other updates are in the new firmware

oksagi said:
Hey gals,
I want to ask a noobish question:
I'v done S-OFF to my US Developer Edition device.
Hboot now 1.44
android 4.1.2
I'd like to know, if i would like to flash ViperOne rom that have 4.2.2 base, do i need to update the hboot or someting else?
Thanks
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ViperOne will run just fine on the stock US Dev Ed firmware!
You do not NEED to upgrade the firmware, unless you want the updated touch screen drivers.

guyd said:
ViperOne will run just fine on the stock US Dev Ed firmware!
You do not NEED to upgrade the firmware, unless you want the updated touch screen drivers.
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Can you please explain what is the problem with touch s on old hboot?

oksagi said:
Can you please explain what is the problem with touch s on old hboot?
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The H-Boot has nothing to do with the touch screen.
The touch screen drivers were updated in the 2.17 and 2.24 firmware release.
Many people feel that the touch screen is more responsive with the updated drivers/firmware.
You do not NEED to update the firmware to run a 4.2.2 ROM. It will run fine on the older firmware.
I ran ViperOne on the older firmware up until very recently. No problems.

oksagi said:
Can you please explain what is the problem with touch s on old hboot?
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Oksagi,
I told you yesterday, you don't Need to flash anything to run Viper, I thought that was clear, your Hboot is fine. If you Want to update your firmware, I gave you links to a very good guide, and to the firmware you should use, IF YOU WANT. Again, you are fine on your Hboot, go ahead and flash Viper, I think you will love it, I do. I think updating firmware may be too much for you at this point. Good luck sir....

Sorry For my newbie-ness but what advantages has S-OFF and what can i do with it ?

[Q] Question about HTC One RUUs

Hi,
I recently got a HTC One through a carrier here in Australia (Telstra), and I would like to install an unbranded RUU so that I don't have all the carrier bloat on the phone.
I've done some searching around, but everyone I haven't found the question to my answer.
Is it possible to just install any RUU to the handset? Or will I have to look for a specific one? My device CID is TELST001, and I'm guessing any RUUs for that CID are going to be branded.
Over on htc1guru I found an RUU for my One's model (PN071400), so will that work? I'd rather know before I do anything silly and brick the thing.
Thanks in advance.

Krimsonmyst said:
Hi,
I recently got a HTC One through a carrier here in Australia (Telstra), and I would like to install an unbranded RUU so that I don't have all the carrier bloat on the phone.
I've done some searching around, but everyone I haven't found the question to my answer.
Is it possible to just install any RUU to the handset? Or will I have to look for a specific one? My device CID is TELST001, and I'm guessing any RUUs for that CID are going to be branded.
Over on htc1guru I found an RUU for my One's model (PN071400), so will that work? I'd rather know before I do anything silly and brick the thing.
Thanks in advance.
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You can only flash a different RUU if you are S-Off. If your hboot is 1.44 then you can use revone to S-Off your device, if hboot is 1.54 then you can't S-Off. You could still unlock using HTCdev and flash a custom ROM which would get rid of the carrier bloat, and give you various other options (enhancements) depending on which ROM you flash.
First check what your hboot is by using POWER + VOLDOWN (version and date!)

nkk71 said:
You can only flash a different RUU if you are S-Off. If your hboot is 1.44 then you can use revone to S-Off your device, if hboot is 1.54 then you can't S-Off. You could still unlock using HTCdev and flash a custom ROM which would get rid of the carrier bloat, and give you various other options (enhancements) depending on which ROM you flash.
First check what your hboot is by using POWER + VOLDOWN (version and date!)
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Thanks for the help!
Turns out I was running 1.54, so I just went the whole way and rooted it. Just waiting on Android Revolution ROM to download now.
Thanks again

Krimsonmyst said:
Thanks for the help!
Turns out I was running 1.54, so I just went the whole way and rooted it. Just waiting on Android Revolution ROM to download now.
Thanks again
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Which version 21.0 or 13.4?
Just to be aware, with 21.0 there are two known issues:
1- you have to manually enter your APN settings to get mobile data to work
2- you can't access contacts on the SIM card
Good luck and enjoy
Press thanks if I helped, always appreciated

nkk71 said:
Which version 21.0 or 13.4?
Just to be aware, with 21.0 there are two known issues:
1- you have to manually enter your APN settings to get mobile data to work
2- you can't access contacts on the SIM card
Good luck and enjoy
Press thanks if I helped, always appreciated
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I downloaded 13.4. I saw the known issues with 21.0 and at this stage I'm not too fussed with 4.2.2 vs 4.3, I really just want a stable daily driver that doesn't spam me with bloat!

[Q] Do I actually need to upgrade firmware/radio etc?

Hi All,
I have the M7 UL with a CID of HTC__001, it has hboot 1.44 s-off and I want to know if I really need to update the firmware/radio at all? I believe the current firmware is that of the 1.29.401.1 and since this was from the time of the Android 4.1.2 ROM and I am running a custom 4.3 ROM, I'm not sure what to do. I'm, not actually having any problems, so is it really necessary?
If so, do I need to upgrade hboot as well or can I get newer firmware/radio while keeping hboot 1.44 ?

beartiger said:
Hi All,
I have the M7 UL with a CID of HTC__001, it has hboot 1.44 s-off and I want to know if I really need to update the firmware/radio at all? I believe the current firmware is that of the 1.29.401.1 and since this was from the time of the Android 4.1.2 ROM and I am running a custom 4.3 ROM, I'm not sure what to do. I'm, not actually having any problems, so is it really necessary?
If so, do I need to upgrade hboot as well or can I get newer firmware/radio while keeping hboot 1.44 ?
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At this point in time, you don't NEED to upgrade firmware, but there COULD be benefits such as the updated touchscreen drivers.
And since you're s-off, you can flash new firmware(s) including updated hboot, and still be able to downgrade anytime you choose.
Updating firmware or hboot will not change your s-off status, and therefore allow you to downgrade at your choice.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

Ive got a quick question regarding this, is firmware ROM dependent - i.e does it matter if im on the 4.3 Sense ROM or the 4.3 Play ROM to flash the 4.3 Firmware?

TheOozyMan said:
Ive got a quick question regarding this, is firmware ROM dependent - i.e does it matter if im on the 4.3 Sense ROM or the 4.3 Play ROM to flash the 4.3 Firmware?
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Nope. Like I said, currently the ROMs are firmware independent. This could change in the future, but for now it doesn't matter.
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app

Thanks again for the help, I have another question about firmware flashing. I want to flash the latest firmware.zip on my HTC one and I'm already S-OFF. Can I just do this in TWRP and can I do it anytime or do I need to do it before I flash a ROM?

TheOozyMan said:
Thanks again for the help, I have another question about firmware flashing. I want to flash the latest firmware.zip on my HTC one and I'm already S-OFF. Can I just do this in TWRP and can I do it anytime or do I need to do it before I flash a ROM?
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Firmware needs to be flashed in fastboot.
"fastboot oem rebootRUU"
"fastboot flash zip firmware.zip"
"fastboot flash zip firmware.zip"
(Yes, twice)
Be sure to check an make sure everything was successful.
"fastboot reboot"
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Thanks, but I read somewhere that you need to flash firmware and then flash a ROM? Is that true?
Also whats the worst thing that could happen if I messed something up, could I just restore a nandroid?

TheOozyMan said:
Thanks, but I read somewhere that you need to flash firmware and then flash a ROM? Is that true?
Also whats the worst thing that could happen if I messed something up, could I just restore a nandroid?
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The worst thing that could happen is a brick-- but that's unlikely.
Nandroids don't backup/restore firmware.
I'd recommend NOT updating hboot.img, or sbl??.img when updating firmware.
Only include these in firmware.zip: android-info.txt, adsp.img, radio.img, rcdata.img, tp_SYN3302.img, rpm.img and tz.img.
These get you (in order) the DSP, radio, radio config data, touch pad driver, and some misc stuff (rpm and tz).