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S-OFF Advantages ?

Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One

Thug_4_Life said:
Yes, no need to relock bootloader.
One of the advantage is that you can ruu/flash firmwares not specifically not for your device.
Btw you need super cid if you want to ruu firmwares from other carriers.
Sent from my HTC One
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"Yes, no need to relock bootloader."
thats enough for me ... thats good ... i hate relocking it when flashing hboot

B-Man2005 said:
Hi,
what are the benifits of having s-off ? could someone tell me briefly ?
i can flash radio, rom, boot all without s-off so what is the key feature?
I dont need to change my cid cause i have the international One so do i need it ?
Can i flash hboot with s-off without relocking bootloader ??
thanks
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I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.

Shu. said:
I can think of two benefit.
The first one is receiving updates. I give the real example of the htc One X. When htc started rolling out the 4.1 update, very few CIDs received the update at first. others couldn't use updated custom roms, because the new rom required the new firmware, and everyone had to wait for very long (Literally months) until the firmware for their cid was released via ota (Even those using an international one x)
With S-off, as soon as someone receives the update, you can flash their updated firmware/hboot, and then update to the latest version using a custom rom or official RUU.
The other benefit that I would imagine is to be able to use the ROMs for the Google Edition of the htc One, which I guess would require a specific firmware or hboot, that we can flash with the s-off.
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no need for google edition ... no need for changing cid or flashing ruu´s
i always install renovate or mikes revolution hd and they always have the newest bases at first ...
so ... flashing hboot without relocking is benefit enough for me
thanks guys

With S-OFF you can also flash a custom splashscreens (the screen right before the bootanimation)
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318987

What next? Help me with firmware question

Hi All,
I'm new to the HTC World, coming from a Note II prior to this.
I like messing with custom roms and HTC is definitly a little more work than what I had been doing before with Nexus Devices or the Note II
So Far,
I've S-Off'ed (Revone), Flashed CWM Touch, Unlocked Bootloader.
I'm on the Stock 4.1.2 Rogers Rom and Firmware (Canada - 4.2.2 not here yet for Rogers)
What I want to do
1) Update firmware to 4.2.2 that works with my phone
2) Install Android Revolution 4.2.2 Rom
Questions
1) Do I need to SuperCID? What advantage is there?
2) What firmware do I flash? I assume it needs to be custom, but which file do I need for my Particular phone? Anything I need to do in particular? Delete any specifc files beforehand? (like hboot? I'm on 1.44) Any specific radio to flash?
Do I flash firmware, followed immediately by flashing the rom?
Thanks - I'm getting almost there to trying some 4.2.2 Roms.

bigystyle84 said:
Hi All,
I'm new to the HTC World, coming from a Note II prior to this.
I like messing with custom roms and HTC is definitly a little more work than what I had been doing before with Nexus Devices or the Note II
So Far,
I've S-Off'ed (Revone), Flashed CWM Touch, Unlocked Bootloader.
I'm on the Stock 4.1.2 Rogers Rom and Firmware (Canada - 4.2.2 not here yet for Rogers)
What I want to do
1) Update firmware to 4.2.2 that works with my phone
2) Install Android Revolution 4.2.2 Rom
Questions
1) Do I need to SuperCID? What advantage is there?
2) What firmware do I flash? I assume it needs to be custom, but which file do I need for my Particular phone? Anything I need to do in particular? Delete any specifc files beforehand? (like hboot? I'm on 1.44)
Do I flash firmware, followed immediately by flashing the rom?
Thanks - I'm getting almost there to trying some 4.2.2 Roms.
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1) super cid is the best cid 11111111
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
3) no you dont have to...you can flash firmware first..you can flash rom then firware...you can use rom for few days before flash FW

99piotrek said:
1) super cid is the best cid 11111111
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
3) no you dont have to...you can flash firmware first..you can flash rom then firware...you can use rom for few days before flash FW
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Thanks. I'm going to give it a try tonight.
What do you recommend for Hboot, keep 1.44 or go to 1.54? I dont think I'll lose revone right? Any advantage of going to 1.54?
Anyone with recommendations for Radios for Rogers Canada? (or Bell which is actually what provider I'm on, same bands)
I'm SuperCID now

bigystyle84 said:
Thanks. I'm going to give it a try tonight.
What do you recommend for Hboot, keep 1.44 or go to 1.54? I dont think I'll lose revone right? Any advantage of going to 1.54?
Anyone with recommendations for Radios for Rogers Canada? (or Bell which is actually what provider I'm on, same bands)
I'm SuperCID now
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no you wont lose revone...
i have 1.54 but i just like have everything fresh and up to date...
i heard that hboot 1.54 is "nothing special" even few users did NOT recommend 1.54...
but i did not notice anything wrong with that...
speaking about FW i recommend 2.24 ... home and back buttons are "SPECIAL" with that
so good luck its really easy...i had no idea how to do that but after i read everything (link in answer 2) was piece of cake

bigystyle84 said:
Thanks. I'm going to give it a try tonight.
What do you recommend for Hboot, keep 1.44 or go to 1.54? I dont think I'll lose revone right? Any advantage of going to 1.54?
Anyone with recommendations for Radios for Rogers Canada? (or Bell which is actually what provider I'm on, same bands)
I'm SuperCID now
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I would recommend using the HTC__001 CID, not 1111111, as this can sometimes cause issues and can result in bricks if you use the wrong firmware.
As for HBOOT, this will be updated automatically when you flash the latest 4.2.2 firmware. There aren't any benefits but no issues either
With radio, latest is usually best. Some people reported battery issues but test it

Matt said:
I would recommend using the HTC__001 CID, not 1111111, as this can sometimes cause issues and can result in bricks if you use the wrong firmware.
As for HBOOT, this will be updated automatically when you flash the latest 4.2.2 firmware. There aren't any benefits but no issues either
With radio, latest is usually best. Some people reported battery issues but test it
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Thanks
I went ahead and did it before I read this response.
I did use SuperCID with 2.24 firmware and updated fine.
I am going to flash the rom now and hope everything works.

bigystyle84 said:
Thanks
I went ahead and did it before I read this response.
I did use SuperCID with 2.24 firmware and updated fine.
I am going to flash the rom now and hope everything works.
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Yeah just be careful not to flash any Chinese firmwares.

thanks all. done

[Q] Which firmware for 4.3 based ROMs

I was just going to flash ARHD 3.1 GE which is 4.3 based.
Currently i'm unlocked/s-off (thanks to revone) with hboot 1.44 and RUU 1.29.401.16.
Do I even have to update firmware or does 1.29 based fw work with 4.3 correctly?
Basically i'm confused with these firmware packages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182823
Is flashing a 2.24.401.12 based firmware going to update hboot too? Does this one break touch in recoveries too?
Why the custom firmwares based on 2.17.401.1 RUU and why aren't there 2.24.401.12 based custom firmwares?
Hopefully someone can answer at least some of my questions :angel:
Thanks

_saiko said:
I was just going to flash ARHD 3.1 GE which is 4.3 based.
Currently i'm unlocked/s-off (thanks to revone) with hboot 1.44 and RUU 1.29.401.16.
Do I even have to update firmware or does 1.29 based fw work with 4.3 correctly?
Basically i'm confused with these firmware packages: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182823
Is flashing a 2.24.401.12 based firmware going to update hboot too? Does this one break touch in recoveries too?
Why the custom firmwares based on 2.17.401.1 RUU and why aren't there 2.24.401.12 based custom firmwares?
Hopefully someone can answer at least some of my questions :angel:
Thanks
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Sounds like your a noob, so don't upgrade your hboot.
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gee thanks, you answered everything
I want to keep hboot 1.44, so it's fairly a simple question whether the 2.24 based firmware updates hboot as well or not.
That is my main question.

Tw1tchy said:
Sounds like your a noob, so don't upgrade your hboot.
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That was so rude, even if he is a noob, I think he has the right to find information and in this case, ask for it.
To be honest, I would like the answer to this too.

_saiko said:
gee thanks, you answered everything
I want to keep hboot 1.44, so it's fairly a simple question whether the 2.24 based firmware updates hboot as well or not.
That is my main question.
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Yes the firmware will update the hboot. It may also update your radio and other hidden partitions.
I would recommend having s-off if your looking to upgrade your firmware. If you don't s-off you have to find the firmware corresponding with your CID. Most of it the time you have to run a RUU to upgrade so back up. Lastly S-OFF only works on hboot 1.44 so if your looking to s-off in the past (assuming you haven't already) don't upgrade because there is no downgrade method yet.
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Guys,
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316726
Read the guide, and flash the 3.06/2.17 combo file if you can (S-off helps). Will give you the great updated touch drivers, and the GE 3.06 firmware. Sneakyghost did an excellent job with this guide, it will really help you out!

And if i'm S-OFF and on 1.44 HBOOT. Does it worth me upgrading ? What will be the benefits of new firmware / hbott ?

Im already s-off on 1.44 using revone, so what would happen with s-off status if I were to flash the 3.06/2.17 firmware from snakyghost?
Would it remain s-off?
Also something caught my eye, is the hboot from snakyghost a modified version and would reverting to s-on while having it brick the device?

r3v0Lut10n said:
And if i'm S-OFF and on 1.44 HBOOT. Does it worth me upgrading ? What will be the benefits of new firmware / hbott ?
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Sirs please if you could give an answer Id be grateful

_saiko said:
Im already s-off on 1.44 using revone, so what would happen with s-off status if I were to flash the 3.06/2.17 firmware from snakyghost?
Would it remain s-off?
Also something caught my eye, is the hboot from snakyghost a modified version and would reverting to s-on while having it brick the device?
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You will not lose s-off if you flash it just don't s-on with that firmware

Flashing firmware need not be a harrowing experience. As long as you read the guides carefully and follow the instructions to the letter, you will be fine. I have probably flashed at least 5-6 firmware packages on my One since getting it.
In general, once you're s-off, it's good to be on the most recent firmware because of various bug fixes like touch sensitivity. And, it would seem to be best to be on a matching firmware/rom base.
Once you start doing this stuff, however, forget about going back to s-on. You can do it if you're careful, but it's a bad idea. One mistake could leave you with a brick or crippled phone.
Again, to emphasize: Read very carefully, follow the instructions exactly, and you'll be safe.

Thank you Sirs
Usually i'd go and test things myself before asking, but in this case a wrong choice is not an option

Going back to stock for 4.3 update and 3.22

Hi, I want to get 3.22 firmware and 4.3.
So, i'm planning to go back to stock by using recovery mode (odexed) by mike1986's guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
Then, after going to stock, i would update through HTC OTA to get the 3.22 firmware.. would this work?
By the way, I'm s-on with 1.54 hboot, so i think the only way for me to get the latest firmware(3.22) is through HTC OTA update in the stock rom.
Thanks everybody!!

Anyone? will this work?

If you're just going to flash a custom ROM and kernel, why are you trying to get the OTA?
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so I could get 3.22 firmware? haha does that make sense?
Is there anyway that I can get 3.22 firmware with s-on and 1.54 hboot?

rainierzam said:
so I could get 3.22 firmware? haha does that make sense?
Is there anyway that I can get 3.22 firmware with s-on and 1.54 hboot?
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Nope, only through official stock updates afaik...
But yeah, I think you're steps are right:
1. Restore stock nandroid backup
2. Restore stock recovery
3. Re-lock the device using (I believe) fastboot...
But not completely sure myself still either...

I'm also wondering how to go back to stock. HBoot 1.54, S-on. Im on .206 so the first method wont work for me I think. I can't find a decent tutorial. Still quite noobish when it comes to this stuff

Hi guys,
I am the same, S-ON with hboot 1.54 ,, and all I want to do is to get the last update firmware , as I understand it is something that can't be flashed with a ROM like ARHD 22 so what are the right steps please. and what are the risks if there is any.
thanks.

It seems this is the way:
1. Restore stock rom/nandroid backup
2. Restore stock recovery
3. Relock the bootloader using fastboot, with this command: fastboot oem lock
That SHOULD be it I think,

Should I get the odexed of v4.1.2 1.29.1540.17 then wait for the htc one update in the phone to get the 3.22 firmware?

rainierzam said:
Should I get the odexed of v4.1.2 1.29.1540.17 then wait for the htc one update in the phone to get the 3.22 firmware?
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I've been asking myself the same questions today and researched about it, then made this post for clarification http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462048
Basically, afaik I'm running 3.22 having updated from 3.17 (Maximus HD 13.0) to 3.22 (Maximus HD 14.0) via OTA. I also have and always have had hboot 1.54 and S-On

Ah, you're looking for the firmware upgrade. When I flashed the 1.29.1540.16 RUU to grab the update and get a system dump I had to downgrade my firmware and hboot in order to get the RUU to flash. I'm s-off and I was on GPe firmware, so this may not pertain to anyone in this thread.
I believe the stock nandroid and recovery would be the only way to go for s-on devices. If you're already on the latest firmware (prior to the new 4.3 OTA) and hboot, there isn't a newer RUU yet. And since you can't downgrade due to s-on, you'll have to use a nandroid and flash a stock recovery.
I may be completely wrong, so please correct me if I am.
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CoryTallman said:
Ah, you're looking for the firmware upgrade. When I flashed the 1.29.1540.16 RUU to grab the update and get a system dump I had to downgrade my firmware and hboot in order to get the RUU to flash. I'm s-off and I was on GPe firmware, so this may not pertain to anyone in this thread.
I believe the stock nandroid and recovery would be the only way to go for s-on devices. If you're already on the latest firmware (prior to the new 4.3 OTA) and hboot, there isn't a newer RUU yet. And since you can't downgrade due to s-on, you'll have to use a nandroid and flash a stock recovery.
I may be completely wrong, so please correct me if I am.
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I was under the same impression, but as it turns out 'build number' in your Settings/About/Software/More IS the firmware version, and mine is 3.22.1540, and I don't have S-On, I have hboot 1.54 and I just did an OTA from a custom rom on base 3.17 to the one on 3.22

ieldra said:
I was under the same impression, but as it turns out 'build number' in your Settings/About/Software/More IS the firmware version, and mine is 3.22.1540, and I don't have S-On, I have hboot 1.54 and I just did an OTA from a custom rom on base 3.17 to the one on 3.22
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So it was the official OTA from HTC, or an OTA that the developer of the custom rom pushed out?
But if you have S-off you could just downgrade, RUU, then receive the OTA anyway, so it doesn't really apply.
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CoryTallman said:
So it was the official OTA from HTC, or an OTA that the developer of the custom rom pushed out?
But if you have S-off you could just downgrade, RUU, then receive the OTA anyway, so it doesn't really apply.
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Custom developer, but I still am running the latest firmware am I not? Only thing I am uncertain about is whether the baseband version corresponds to the one on 3.22, and why does it say "OS-2.24.901.1" on my bootloader

ieldra said:
Custom developer, but I still am running the latest firmware am I not? Only thing I am uncertain about is whether the baseband version corresponds to the one on 3.22, and why does it say "OS-2.24.901.1" on my bootloader
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OTA's from dev's will not include firmware. The version you are seeing in the setting menu is the version listed in the build.prop, it isn't actually showing the devices firmware version.
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CoryTallman said:
OTA's from dev's will not include firmware. The version you are seeing in the setting menu is the version listed in the build.prop, it isn't actually showing the devices firmware version.
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So having S-On, hboot 1.54 and no recovery of my stock android, what can I do to update my firmware and radio ? My CID is CID_401, I can't find any RUUs or nandroid backs for it
Edit:I think I have a TWRP backup of my phone i made one day after buying it, although I think it is after I upgraded to 4.2.2 OTA (stock) and unlocked and rooted. However it should still be a stock backup. Will this help in anyway? (Note: I use CWM now)

ieldra said:
So having S-On, hboot 1.54 and no recovery of my stock android, what can I do to update my firmware and radio ? My CID is CID_401, I can't find any RUUs or nandroid backs for it
Edit:I think I have a TWRP backup of my phone i made one day after buying it, although I think it is after I upgraded to 4.2.2 OTA (stock) and unlocked and rooted. However it should still be a stock backup. Will this help in anyway? (Note: I use CWM now)
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Radios are flashable in recovery.
The backup will work if you can find a stock recovery to flash, then relock the boot loader and receive OTA. If there's even an OTA for your CID yet.
Though the backup being rooted may cause the OTA to fail.
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CoryTallman said:
Radios are flashable in recovery.
The backup will work if you can find a stock recovery to flash, then relock the boot loader and receive OTA. If there's even an OTA for your CID yet.
Though the backup being rooted may cause the OTA to fail.
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is the stock recovery CID dependent ? Also, can I not simply unroot if I am rooted?

ieldra said:
is the stock recovery CID dependent ? Also, can I not simply unroot if I am rooted?
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These are questions I do not know the answers to. I'm one of the lucky ones with s-off, but hopefully someone more knowledgeable on the subject can help.
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Hey, on returning to stock using stock recovery, could i use the odexed or de odexed version of 4.3 to get the 3.22 firmware? The rom is posted in the one android development. Coukd i use this instead of mike1986's stock rom?
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[Q] GPE 5.0.1 back to Sense with RUU?

I'd like convert my HTC One M7 5.0.1 back to Sense. Is this possible using an RUU file. What are the steps involved?

Done it a few times. Depends on your CID, I changed mine to supercid so that I can use most regions.
Change hboot to 1.44 (not 100% sure if is a must or not but I do!)
Flash Sense ruu with fastboot. You might need an old Jellybean release first.
Flash custom recovery
flash root (supersu or whatever)
Flash custom rom to upgrade to Kitkat or stock rom
Flash latest firmware to update radio etc.
That's pretty much it.

maritimesbob said:
Done it a few times. Depends on your CID, I changed mine to supercid so that I can use most regions.
Change hboot to 1.44 (not 100% sure if is a must or not but I do!)
Flash Sense ruu with fastboot. You might need an old Jellybean release first.
Flash custom recovery
flash root (supersu or whatever)
Flash custom rom to upgrade to Kitkat or stock rom
Flash latest firmware to update radio etc.
That's pretty much it.
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I just wanted to say thank you. I didn't realize it but I thought I could flash any RUU for any carrier so long as I had the correct CID. Turns out you can't do that as the firmware and etc are different for each carrier. I bought a TELUS carrier HTC ONE but it was unlocked and I use on Rogers. I needed the Stock ROM RUU for Telus. Worked like a charm.
Thanks again