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I dont know how long this has been happining because up to 2 days ago I dident use any bluetooth devices with my phone but I just found out yesterday I was having a problem and after hours of searching and narrowing the problem down I finnaly found that enabling wifi caused my bluetooth range to drop to just a cople inches.
The reason I need wifi is that I dont get anything past "E" were I live and thats not vary good for orb and streaming Movies and TV
The reason I started using Bluetooth is I bought a hands free headset and a BT Gamepad, both of there ranges are 1-2 inches but jump to the correct range when wifi is off.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the bluetooth and wifi probably operate off the same sytem in the kaiser?
If I had to guess, it would have something to with your battery. If you have a weak phone signal, your battery has to work harder to keep the call up. Just my guess
Thats another thing to try, try keeping the phone plugged in while you do this and see if the results vary from not having it plugged in.
I actually saw it to vary from ROM to ROM. On XDA Live 2.0, i could never use both simeltaneously. If i turned wifi on, my headset would disconnect. After I made my ROM, i had no problems whatsoever with both coexisting.
It's normal. Both interfaces use the same frequency band and must share it. When one uses a lot of the available bandwidth, the other is likely to be thrown off. Now if people report different behavior between ROMs it might be stuff like the prioritization between the 2 being different, or simply low-level settings like the number of retries in case of failed transmissions (as many of those will occur when both interfaces are used simultaneously) before a packet is dropped/connection is lost.
An example of the other way, if I use my stereo handset to listen to music (bandwidth-intensive), the Wifi will disconnect even if I'm 2m away from the router.
mech_supernova said:
I dont know how long this has been happining because up to 2 days ago I dident use any bluetooth devices with my phone but I just found out yesterday I was having a problem and after hours of searching and narrowing the problem down I finnaly found that enabling wifi caused my bluetooth range to drop to just a cople inches.
The reason I need wifi is that I dont get anything past "E" were I live and thats not vary good for orb and streaming Movies and TV
The reason I started using Bluetooth is I bought a hands free headset and a BT Gamepad, both of there ranges are 1-2 inches but jump to the correct range when wifi is off.
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Off topic, but which bluetooth gamepads did you get?
Thanks for all your replies
kareem9nba said:
Off topic, but which bluetooth gamepads did you get?
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its the BGP100 works great with Morphgear Emulator heres a link
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/peripherals/input/chainpus-bgp100-bluetooth-gamepad-102114.php
I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now and am really enjoying it.
However, bluetooth audio streaming is proving to be a royal pain.
I am using a Motorola T505 in my car.
The symptoms are pretty consistent.
If I reboot my phone then the audio will stream over bluetooth flawlessly.
If I try to stream without rebooting the phone then it will stutter and stop randomly.
My diagnosis is that there are processes running on the phone that interfere with the bluetooth or take up memory that is needed for the streaming to work smoothly.
I have read that wifi can be a culprit, but even with this switched off I have a problem.
I know that my drive home takes me through areas with varying degrees of reception. The phone does switch from 3G to edge to gprs and there are areas where the signal is quite weak. But if this was a problem then it would have an effect whether I had rebooted the phone first or not.
I have tried installing Advanced Task Manager and using this to kill programs that are running but this does not prevent the problem. Even if I am able to get free memory up to 120mb + I still get the stuttering.
I'm determined to get to the bottom of the problem as it is just about my only issue with the phone and it is a PITA to reboot before my commute.
I am aware that there are all sorts of processes running on the phone and using system resources but I don't know what is safe to kill and what isn't.
Should I use a different task manager?
Is there a particular app which might be causing a problem?
Any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this further would be gratefully received.
I am presuming that I am not the only one who has this issue?
Thanks
paulpenny said:
I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now and am really enjoying it.
However, bluetooth audio streaming is proving to be a royal pain.
I am using a Motorola T505 in my car.
The symptoms are pretty consistent.
If I reboot my phone then the audio will stream over bluetooth flawlessly.
If I try to stream without rebooting the phone then it will stutter and stop randomly.
My diagnosis is that there are processes running on the phone that interfere with the bluetooth or take up memory that is needed for the streaming to work smoothly.
I have read that wifi can be a culprit, but even with this switched off I have a problem.
I know that my drive home takes me through areas with varying degrees of reception. The phone does switch from 3G to edge to gprs and there are areas where the signal is quite weak. But if this was a problem then it would have an effect whether I had rebooted the phone first or not.
I have tried installing Advanced Task Manager and using this to kill programs that are running but this does not prevent the problem. Even if I am able to get free memory up to 120mb + I still get the stuttering.
I'm determined to get to the bottom of the problem as it is just about my only issue with the phone and it is a PITA to reboot before my commute.
I am aware that there are all sorts of processes running on the phone and using system resources but I don't know what is safe to kill and what isn't.
Should I use a different task manager?
Is there a particular app which might be causing a problem?
Any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this further would be gratefully received.
I am presuming that I am not the only one who has this issue?
Thanks
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I stream via bt to my car stereo without any issues all the time. What is the audio bitrate you are streaming?
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I stream mainly podcasts. The bit rate will be whatever the default is.
Since I first posted I have had fewer problems with stuttering. I did uninstall poweramp. That may or may not have any bearing on things.
I now find that auto connection is a bit flaky. Sometimes it will connect, other times I have to do it manually.
Overall not the best experience but very nice when it works.
paulpenny said:
I stream mainly podcasts. The bit rate will be whatever the default is.
Since I first posted I have had fewer problems with stuttering. I did uninstall poweramp. That may or may not have any bearing on things.
I now find that auto connection is a bit flaky. Sometimes it will connect, other times I have to do it manually.
Overall not the best experience but very nice when it works.
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I have no problems streaming audio from my Nexus S to my car's audio deck (Pioneer P7000BT) and I play anything from my music apps (pandora, slacker, etc..) to my songs in my mp3 library. If you aren't on a custom rom, perhaps trying CM7 and a good kernel could help you narrow down your problem.
My phone's setup is listed below in my sig.
I have streaming from my nexus s to kenwood kdc-x994 without any problems
paulpenny said:
I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now and am really enjoying it.
However, bluetooth audio streaming is proving to be a royal pain.
I am using a Motorola T505 in my car.
The symptoms are pretty consistent.
If I reboot my phone then the audio will stream over bluetooth flawlessly.
If I try to stream without rebooting the phone then it will stutter and stop randomly.
My diagnosis is that there are processes running on the phone that interfere with the bluetooth or take up memory that is needed for the streaming to work smoothly.
I have read that wifi can be a culprit, but even with this switched off I have a problem.
I know that my drive home takes me through areas with varying degrees of reception. The phone does switch from 3G to edge to gprs and there are areas where the signal is quite weak. But if this was a problem then it would have an effect whether I had rebooted the phone first or not.
I have tried installing Advanced Task Manager and using this to kill programs that are running but this does not prevent the problem. Even if I am able to get free memory up to 120mb + I still get the stuttering.
I'm determined to get to the bottom of the problem as it is just about my only issue with the phone and it is a PITA to reboot before my commute.
I am aware that there are all sorts of processes running on the phone and using system resources but I don't know what is safe to kill and what isn't.
Should I use a different task manager?
Is there a particular app which might be causing a problem?
Any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this further would be gratefully received.
I am presuming that I am not the only one who has this issue?
Thanks
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Bump!!!
Brand new Nexus S owner with the EXACT same problem, it's driving me nuts.
Unless I do a reboot on the phone or sometimes just a manual disable & re-enable on the bluetooth, it will keep having 1-2 second audio drops right in the middle of playback. I have a Kenwood KDC-BT838U deck. The bluetooth connection between the deck and phone never breaks. It never disconnects or disassociates in any form as far as I can tell. It's clearly a problem with my Nexus S only because I also have an iPhone 4 and it works flawlessly all the time (just not unlimited data on that phone!)
It's really annoying that others in this thread say they don't have the issue at all. I have streamed off Youtube HD and radio stations via TuneIn Radio.
It's super annoying considering I got the unlimited data package for exactly this reason.
It's only been 4 days of having the phone so maybe I'll go try and exchange tomorrow.
Just my luck
paulpenny said:
I've had my Nexus S for a couple of weeks now and am really enjoying it.
However, bluetooth audio streaming is proving to be a royal pain.
I am using a Motorola T505 in my car.
The symptoms are pretty consistent.
If I reboot my phone then the audio will stream over bluetooth flawlessly.
If I try to stream without rebooting the phone then it will stutter and stop randomly.
My diagnosis is that there are processes running on the phone that interfere with the bluetooth or take up memory that is needed for the streaming to work smoothly.
I have read that wifi can be a culprit, but even with this switched off I have a problem.
I know that my drive home takes me through areas with varying degrees of reception. The phone does switch from 3G to edge to gprs and there are areas where the signal is quite weak. But if this was a problem then it would have an effect whether I had rebooted the phone first or not.
I have tried installing Advanced Task Manager and using this to kill programs that are running but this does not prevent the problem. Even if I am able to get free memory up to 120mb + I still get the stuttering.
I'm determined to get to the bottom of the problem as it is just about my only issue with the phone and it is a PITA to reboot before my commute.
I am aware that there are all sorts of processes running on the phone and using system resources but I don't know what is safe to kill and what isn't.
Should I use a different task manager?
Is there a particular app which might be causing a problem?
Any ideas on how I can troubleshoot this further would be gratefully received.
I am presuming that I am not the only one who has this issue?
Thanks
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Try disabling wifi while you streaming through bluetooth. Wifi radio can interfere with some headunits.
slvr00gt said:
Try disabling wifi while you streaming through bluetooth. Wifi radio can interfere with some headunits.
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First thing I tried!
I've moved on to cm7.0.2 and it is still a bit flaky, although not as bad as it was.
There doesn't seem to be any pattern. Sometimes it's fine other times it's not.
Interesting, I have had a Kenwood KDC-BT945U for sometime now and have used it with many different phones. My Nexus One had a very flaky connection to it, my HTC G2 connected fine but would give me audio drop outs randomly every few minutes which was SO ANNOYING, Iphone work just fine and my Nexus S works without issue also. I had assumed it was just an issue with HTC phones. Are you currently running a custom ROM? The only time I was ever able to get my Nexus One working the way it should was to use a Sense Rom.
I upgraded to CM7 and it's as bad as ever, didn't seem to help at all.
I also went through a full exchange at the store, and the brand new one straight out of the plastic did the same thing. Must be the phone itself is all I can think of.
All I have left to try is a new kernel, I can't figure out which kernel to update to if I'm using the Mobilicity AWS Nexus S
If you are having problems with bluetooth streaming and have a task killer installed... Uninstall it...
Task killers are problem makers...
Android has a built in task killer
Good news: I just saved 500 hundred bucks on a new phone by switching to XxXViRuSXxX
(So easy, a noobie can do it)
There is still no solution to this problem. I'm assuming nobody else here is using their Nexus S for bluetooth audio streaming often?
It has persisted through 2 exchanges which leads me to believe theres a problem with the hardware itself or something.
Rooted, custom kernels, nothing fixes it.
This phone is such a piece of junk, I'm hating it more and more every day
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There is still no solution to this problem. I'm assuming nobody else here is using their Nexus S for bluetooth audio streaming often?
It has persisted through 2 exchanges which leads me to believe theres a problem with the hardware itself or something.
Rooted, custom kernels, nothing fixes it.
This phone is such a piece of junk, I'm hating it more and more every day
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I use my Nexus S every day to stream music over BT/A2DP to my car stereo (Kenwood Excelon KDC-X994) and it works without any issues, and it always has since I got it. I've rooted it and am using a custom kernel and radio, but left the OS at stock 2.3.4. But it also worked fine with my head unit right out of the box before I made any changes to it.
I'm sorry I don't have any suggestions or solutions for you. In my own experiences it seems like certain BT chipsets just don't work well with certain pieces of BT hardware, so maybe there's just "bad blood" (so to speak) between the BT chipset in the Nexus S and your BT car hardware...?
Sorry I don't have any ideas to offer to try and help.
I also stream music over Bluetooth, the blackberry gateway device works perfectly for me, but it requires an AUX port
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What app are you using? I saw you mentioned podcasts and I have seen this problem on my EVO with google listen if i initiate play from the head unit to continue listening. I saw this on stock and CM7. However I have not been able to replicate it as of late. have you tried a differnt program or even just restarting BT? That is what fixed it for me back then.
Hope that helps
To the Gentlemen having problems with Bluetooth streaming. I hate asking but have you tried a different device as the bluetooth receiver if possible? A lot of the users replying are using pretty nice head units and in my experience with my Golf ive had no problems. well thats lie.. i have issues with the turn by turn navigation audio not working. It cuts the music (as it should) but the navigation audio is either non existent or extremely quiet (yes ive checked the navigation volume on the device).
But yeah long story short just wondering what other bluetooth receivers you have tried. Good luck.
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I also stream music over Bluetooth, the blackberry gateway device works perfectly for me, but it requires an AUX port
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I have the blackberry little gateway as well. When it connects it's great (no stuttering etc), but my phone won't always connect to it when I get in my car. Sometimes turning BT on/off will then get it to connect, but it's random. The sure-fire way to get it to connect is rebooting the phone. Not sure why that is, but very annoying. Does your NS connect to your blackberry gateway every time without fail?
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I have the blackberry little gateway as well. When it connects it's great (no stuttering etc), but my phone won't always connect to it when I get in my car. Sometimes turning BT on/off will then get it to connect, but it's random. The sure-fire way to get it to connect is rebooting the phone. Not sure why that is, but very annoying. Does your NS connect to your blackberry gateway every time without fail?
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No I have the same problem. Only downside to it.
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Kurupt1 said:
No I have the same problem. Only downside to it.
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Ah that's a relief to hear actually ! I wonder if it's specific to the blackberry gateway, and some other brand A2DP receiver would not have the problem...
Do you know of any others like it? I would be willing to try, gets pretty annoying.
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So I paired the One with my QED uPlay at home and I'm having issues. The phone has to literally be 30cm away from the receiver or the audio will start getting distorted until it eventually cuts off. I have two uPlays, issue exists on both so its not tbe receiver. Also my iPhone 4s has no issues either. I was hoping the One had better audio than the iPhone since it has aptx, but its quite the opposite. Has anyone tried bluetooth music streaming? Is it just a faulty phone?
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So I paired the One with my QED uPlay at home and I'm having issues. The phone has to literally be 30cm away from the receiver or the audio will start getting distorted until it eventually cuts off. I have two uPlays, issue exists on both so its not tbe receiver. Also my iPhone 4s has no issues either. I was hoping the One had better audio than the iPhone since it has aptx, but its quite the opposite. Has anyone tried bluetooth music streaming? Is it just a faulty phone?
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Bluetooth and Wi-Fi both use the 2.4GHz channel. Asus had issues with the Prime because of its all-aluminum design where they had to greatly amplify the Wi-Fi signal and use diversity antennas to get through it. HTC uses the latter on the One. When used together, the Wi-Fi signal can overpower and interfere with the BT signal. Try turning off Wi-Fi and see if your connection quality changes. You're the first one to mention a BT issue so it could be unique to your device. Time will tell.
I have had a problem with bt connecting to my car (audi a1) I can hear the call but the other end cannot hear me. Going to delete connection and try again tomorrow.
Thanks for the replies. I switched off WIFI, re-paired the device and bluetooth started working perfectly, so it makes sense it was interference. Strange thing is I turned WIFI back on and bluetooth was still working fine. I'll do further tests in my car tomorrow see how it goes. If I'm not convinced I'll just get the phone replaced.
I have also had issues with bluetooth paired to my hands free car kit. Issues have surfaced when streaming music and also when making audio calls via bluetooth.
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The One X had a similar issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688538
It could be that when I was first trying the WIFI antenna was stuck on high power, which caused the interference, but when I reset the WIFI it reduced its power and no longer interfered with the BT. I have changed the WIFI at home to run at 5 GHZ, but work still runs on 2.4.
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So I paired the One with my QED uPlay at home and I'm having issues. The phone has to literally be 30cm away from the receiver or the audio will start getting distorted until it eventually cuts off. I have two uPlays, issue exists on both so its not tbe receiver. Also my iPhone 4s has no issues either. I was hoping the One had better audio than the iPhone since it has aptx, but its quite the opposite. Has anyone tried bluetooth music streaming? Is it just a faulty phone?
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What version you are using. I have update to latet ROM:1.29.709.4 and the issue is fixed. :laugh:
cobbcobbdavid said:
What version you are using. I have update to latet ROM:1.29.709.4 and the issue is fixed. :laugh:
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I am running 1.28.401.7. How did you update to the latest ROM? I don't want to unlock my bootloader in case I need to return it.
Did you used to have the same exact issue in the previous ROM?
giorgoxxi said:
I am running 1.28.401.7. How did you update to the latest ROM? I don't want to unlock my bootloader in case I need to return it.
Did you used to have the same exact issue in the previous ROM?
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I have the same version on mine 1.28.401.7. However I also do not want to update in case of needing to return it.
djayyy said:
I have the same version on mine 1.28.401.7. However I also do not want to update in case of needing to return it.
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Apparently 1.29.709.4 has been officially released in Taiwan by HTC, so it shouldn't be long before the update arrives to the rest of us (hopefully).
got the same issue...some times I got no lags in audio streaming, but sometimes they are there...until it (maybe) will be fixed I'm using a widget, my cousin has coded for me yesterday . Quite simple solution. If I press the button, wifi turns off and bt turns on...works fine for me, so far
Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
debug77 said:
Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
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I had the same issue, turning wifi off seemed to fix it :good:
The meta data issue is a common problem around Android phones I found out so far. I use N7player and on my car radio display it says Load 8.1 from Eisenfunk, but I'm playing I will be heard from Hatebreed. This happens on different phones with stock player installed.
The Load 8.1 from Eisenfunk is loaded in the stock music player, so the problem seems to be, that you have to find a workaround to get player X your standard player and disable everything else. Since I only use N7, I disabled every other player and it seems to work, but its a lazy workaround. Someone should find a fix for this. Maybe I should just use the stock filemanager and try to start a mp3 and than set N7 to default. Maybe this works.
For the BT cutting outs, I didn't recognize those cutouts. Don't ask me what is wrong at your side, I use a Pioneer DEH-X8500BT car radio and my HTC One is in my pocket. Do you have a bluetooth bridge like Belkin or Logitech BT Audio adapter or wireless speakers like Boombox or such thing so check if this happens with them, too? I had a issue once with a Samsung device and my Creative wireless speakersystem with BT connection and it was cutting off randomly until I found out that another app was causing this.
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I had the same problem too and solved this by disabling the energy-saving-options. With energysaving all dataconnections will be disabled when the screen gets off.
You can also setup the energysavingsettings and disable the turn off from all dataconnections.
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These are the settings to disable.
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debug77 said:
Got my One today... Pleased so far until I went for a drive and tried out the bluetooth in the car and found a couple of issues:
1 - Audio keeps cutting out every 15 seconds or so. It'll play, then quickly go quiet, and then work its way back up to regular volume. Really annoying!
2 - The meta data is completely wrong. For example, I was playing a podcast via Doggcatcher, yet the meta data was for a track I'd been playing previously in Google Music.
Tried with Beats Audio on, and off, but didn't make any difference. I have several other phones of different makes/models etc... paired with the car and none of them have these issues.
Anyone else having these issues?
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I used to have this problem in 1.28Rom with WifI turn on too, but it fixed in Rom 1.29. :laugh:
How did you get the updated rom?
Spewy1 said:
How did you get the updated rom?
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I work in Carrier shop in TW and for the Demo unit is already update to 1.29
ant78 said:
I had the same issue, turning wifi off seemed to fix it :good:
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Thanks for the pointers guys. I installed AutomateIt so that when it connects to my car's bluetooth, it disables WiFi (and then switches it back on when I get out). Seems to work a treat!
HTC asked me to fill in a support call, but by the sounds of it it's hopefully all sorted in the 1.29 ROM Let's hope for a speedy release of it around the world :good:
Not sure what to do about the meta data though. I use quite a few different music apps (Soundcloud, Google Music, Sony Music, and Doggcatcher) so setting one to be default isn't really a solution for me unfortunately.
I'm getting both issues but I saw this thread before I got my phone and knew to turn off the wifi. A minor inconvenience but glad it'll be fixed in the next update.
As for the meta data, I'm using Gone Mad music player (the dev recently put it on sale and I fancied a change from the now-abandoned ubermusic). I can confirm that the track never changed from the first one I played. Haven't yet tried the stock music player, but I do recall that I had a similar issue on my SGS3 when using a combination of stock, ubermusic and google music. Very annoying. I think the same happened in the brief moment I had the Xperia Z too, so I would agree that it's an Android issue, not necessarily a HTC issue.
Hey there,
not specifically related to use with car sets, but I have general BT headset issues. I already tested two of them. I get dropouts every now and then, i.e. I don't hear the one on the other end, plus people absolutely do not hear me most of the time when I use the BT headset - I have to speak into the phone, and even then no sound at times. No problems with my former HOX though. Can anyone confirm? Am I deemed to NOT use WLAN while having a BT headset connected in general?
Thanks in advance .
I've been having audio issues via A2DP - but again only with WiFi enabled. Not a problem in the car as Tasker will turn off WiFi for me. But in my house when using A2DP streaming, I want to use my WiFi.
Let's hope 1.29 fixes, otherwise I might consider a 5Ghz router...
An FYI. When these phones passed through the FCC I was such a geek that I actually read the transmitter testing. There is an affidavit in there about the BT and WiFI radios sharing an antenna and due to FCC restrictions that the two shall never transmit at the same time. All I can devise is they use a very fast radio switcher to ensure both can be on at once. That software that powers the transmitter transfer mechanism must be not optimized. Or worse, the hardware just really cant handle that. This is what happens when you have aluminum. Need to cram as much into antenna spots as possible. The I-phone 5 has the same setup but their software seems to handle it better. Hopefully this is fixed with a ROM release.
F*ck me, that would explain why I was able to make normal phone calls when I am outside my office - there is no WiFi to interfere! I will have to test tomorrow again, but feel a bit irritated about the fact that I cannot use Bluetooth for audio and WiFi at the same time. Thanks for pointing that out again!
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An FYI. When these phones passed through the FCC I was such a geek that I actually read the transmitter testing. There is an affidavit in there about the BT and WiFI radios sharing an antenna and due to FCC restrictions that the two shall never transmit at the same time. All I can devise is they use a very fast radio switcher to ensure both can be on at once. That software that powers the transmitter transfer mechanism must be not optimized. Or worse, the hardware just really cant handle that. This is what happens when you have aluminum. Need to cram as much into antenna spots as possible. The I-phone 5 has the same setup but their software seems to handle it better. Hopefully this is fixed with a ROM release.
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If that was true you'd never be able to stream content over Wi-Fi (Hulu, Netflix, Pandora, Spotify) and listen to it over BT. That's done all the time. Wi-Fi and BT both use the 2.4GHz frequency. Maybe the requirement you read applies to via separate antennas which may be why both share a single antenna. Aluminum and wireless signals don't mix. Asus had BT problems with the TF201 because they had to compensate for the aluminum back of the device by amping the Wi-Fi signal to the point it overpowered the weaker BT signal. Since turning off Wi-Fi improves BT performance (and range) something similar may be occurring on the One. With so few devices in people's hands it's too early to call.
Here's the LTE SGS3 for T-Mobile that just passed through the FCC compared to the One.
Hey I hear you and what your saying makes sense. The reality is a featured coding called time sharing. So due to an ultra fast buffering you are actually never transmitting both at once. That means this very well could be the culprit. Don't need to believe me. Check out the first letter from htc in the FCC registration. Clear as day.
jackdforme said:
Hey I hear you and what your saying makes sense. The reality is a featured coding called time sharing. So due to an ultra fast buffering you are actually never transmitting both at once. That means this very well could be the culprit. Don't need to believe me. Check out the first letter from htc in the FCC registration. Clear as day.
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Well, it's either the radio, h/w, s/w, or interference. The radio can be ruled out because the BCM4335 is specifically designed to reduce radio interference between competing signals. That leaves either something in the way the h/w is assembled, tuning of the radio drivers/settings or interference between the various radios caused by their output settings, antenna size/placement, or the aluminum body attenuating the signals. I guess time will tell which it is and whether or not it's a big deal to the majority of users.
The BCM4335 introduces the newest version of Broadcom's wireless coexistence technology. Handset makers can use this technology on 4G LTE cellular platforms to minimize the possibility of radio interference between Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and LTE, which operate in adjacent radio frequencies. Broadcom's Global Coexistence Interface supports the Bluetooth Special Interest Group's (SIG) LTE coexistence scheme and can be applied to future Broadcom LTE platforms, as well as 4G cellular platforms from other vendors.http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4335
Anand described the antenna structure but I don’t really understand whether he’s saying the entire horizontal aluminum strips on the back above and below the line of injected plastic are the antennas or that the design allows the discrete antennas to be more effective.
The One uses the top and bottom aluminum strips for antennas, both of which are actively tuned to mitigate unintended attenuation from being held. There’s a plastic insulative strip in-between the two antennas and the main body. In spite of being aluminum, the One also includes NFC, whose active area surrounds the camera region.
But his comments don’t seem to jive with iFixit’s after their tear down. They seem to be implying the signals are transmitted through the plastic surround which makes sense but limits the transmission area.
The daughterboard remains, but there is still a mystery left unsolved. No phone operates without antennas, and antennas don't transmit signals well through metal walls. Considering that this daughterboard is on the receiving end of the motherboard's antenna cables and sits directly under the plastic bezel at the top of the phone, we're thinking it has something to do with wireless signals. See those three spring contacts along the top of the board? They meet the rear case in an area obscured by the plastic bezel. If we had to guess, that's where HTC put the antennas.
I would like to post the declaration from the FCC site. Its says it and the model of the bt/wifi radio in the device as registered although the part number looks like the phones part number with a few extra numbers. I truly hope this isn't one of those situations where some BT is unaffected because of the other end having better or newer processors. A la modern BMW's. The professional radio BT sucks it. Always drops even the best phone BT. So, if this phone has a nice antenna split tech and can be very fast at switching transmission times, but the other side cant keep up with the chop, we have a long term problem. I cant post the link because I am too new. Sorry.
Using sense 1.28.771.6, bluetooth/wifi work fine simultaneously.
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I tried today with WiFi off and must admit that this is the (temporary) solution. I am on stock with 1.28.401.7 and DO have issues with WiFi and BT being used simultaneously. Now I can at least use BT with my headset.
I just got my Chromecast for Christmas and when I use netflix the audio sounds extremely garbled and high pitched. We are talking indistinguishable Alvin and the Chipmunks underwater messed up audio. YouTube and Pandora sound fine. Any ideas or is netflix just messed up?
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I just got my Chromecast for Christmas and when I use netflix the audio sounds extremely garbled and high pitched. We are talking indistinguishable Alvin and the Chipmunks underwater messed up audio. YouTube and Pandora sound fine. Any ideas or is netflix just messed up?
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What kind of TV or sound system do you have?
Its currently hooked up to an old Viewsonic LCD TV, no sound system. I don't think the TV is the problem since youtube and pandora work fine unless Netflix has audio output settings I am not aware of.
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Its currently hooked up to an old Viewsonic LCD TV, no sound system. I don't think the TV is the problem since youtube and pandora work fine unless Netflix has audio output settings I am not aware of.
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Netflix does have audio options, though I have yet to find anything beyond Stereo.
If the audio is semi-intelligible but playing in super-fast bursts, then it's being caused by lag, similar to how Bluetooth A2DP will try to catch up the signal is interrupted - the remainder of the buffer is flushed at super speed to try to catch up. But if the signal is continually interrupted, this happens continuously.
I don't know what Netflix's default streaming bitrate is, but it's possible your connection isn't stable enough to handle whatever rate it's choosing. YouTube tends to drop down or buffer more. Pandora is just audio which is trivial bandwidth-wise.
I have 15/1 cable thats pretty spot on. No issues streaming netflix and other stuff to Sony bluray or Wii. My router is an older TPLink N300, but it works with everything else. I don't have HBO or Hulu will try to find other video apps to troubleshoot. Either way thanks for your responses.
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OK so I downloaded redbull TV and revision 3 and tested videos. Redbull works fine but revision 3 has the sane audio issues as Netflix. Maybe its a router issue? I will just have to do some research I guess
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OK so I downloaded redbull TV and revision 3 and tested videos. Redbull works fine but revision 3 has the sane audio issues as Netflix. Maybe its a router issue? I will just have to do some research I guess
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Possibly... Newer TP-Link routers are listed as compatible by Google so, not sure.
How's the signal strength on the Chromecast? If you're not already using the extender, that might be enough.
Otherwise, the general "gotchas" seem to be options related to:
AP Isolation (must be OFF)
Multicast (depends, but multicast packets need to be allowed)
UPnP (should be ON)
IGMP (depends)
IPv6 (depends)
Good signal strength and my settings look right. Will try on the Samsung TV shortly for troubleshooting. Wife is on that one at the moment. I don't need a Chromecast on that TV though if it works right.
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Seems to be fine on the other TV which is also much closer to the router. Do these units only work right on full strength?
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Seems to be fine on the other TV which is also much closer to the router. Do these units only work right on full strength?
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Not necessarily full strength, but it does need a reasonable connection strength so there is enough sustained transfer speed.
Sounds like your sustained transfer speed may be fluctuating, causing "spurts" which are generally bad for streaming applications. A slower, stable connection is actually better than a faster, bursty connection for streaming, because it's like breathing - it's about flow rather than average. 7.5 liters of air in 3 seconds doesn't make up for the other 57 seconds of the minute that you got nothing.
Depending on your wiring situation, if you can move the router closer to the Chromecast, that should help - or if the router is on a different floor, avoid having it directly above/below the Chromecast. If the TV itself is directly between the router and and Chromecast, the HDMI extender should help, if that doesn't get it clear, you can use a longer HDMI extension cable. I have my main Chromecast on a 10-foot HDMI extension, connected to my sound system, which then has a 6-foot HDMI cable to the TV. No problem so far, and it keeps my Chromecast in a spot where I can keep an eye on it. I'm sure one day it's going to sprout legs and run off. :silly:
Some routers allow you to adjust the signal strength as well.
If none of the above is possible, then the final option would be to get a wireless repeater or range extender - or a router with a stronger signal, but it's tough to judge how a specific router will do in a situation without actually testing it.
Yeah I am probably on the fringe of a really good connection for this little device. The wii works fine but its antennas are probably bigger and its only 480p resolution. I should be able to move the cable modem and router just need to dig out a splitter and find my WiFi dongle for the desktop. I also have a Belkin N750 router I can borrow from work tomorrow. I put in a Netgear Nighthawk in its place on Friday. Wish I had $200 to drop on one of those for home.
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Yeah I am probably on the fringe of a really good connection for this little device. The wii works fine but its antennas are probably bigger and its only 480p resolution. I should be able to move the cable modem and router just need to dig out a splitter and find my WiFi dongle for the desktop. I also have a Belkin N750 router I can borrow from work tomorrow. I put in a Netgear Nighthawk in its place on Friday. Wish I had $200 to drop on one of those for home.
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You should be able to have multiple APs as long as everything's on the same subnet. So you could turn off DHCP on the Belkin and connect its LAN to your TP-Link's LAN and it should act as a simple access point. Then connect Chromecast to the Belkin's wireless.
If you have multiple bands that's a good way to minimize other wireless traffic and maximize available bandwidth.
My phone usually is on my 5GHz wireless while my Chromecast is on the 2.4GHz wireless (because that's all it supports). So when I cast local media from Avia it goes from my phone to my router over 5GHz and to Chromecast over 2.4GHz, which in theory keeps the wireless usage to 1x the content bitrate on each band, rather than 2x the content bitrate on a single band (send from phone to router + send from router to Chromecast).
I have narrowed the problem down to my TV and the way certain apps deliver audio. I tried the Belkin router and still had garbled audio on Netflix but YouTube had no issues. Still only good signal strength though.
Next I moved the cable modem and router to several feet from the Chromecast and still had the same audio issues.
Maybe I can talk the wife into a new TV
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I have narrowed the problem down to my TV and the way certain apps deliver audio.
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Maybe I can talk the wife into a new TV
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Weird. Maybe a decoding or sampling rate problem.
Good luck with your wife! :highfive:
Thanks I have never had issues with other HDMI devices on this TV. I currently have a Pace cable box and have used various cable boxes, DVD, and media players. Here is a quick video of the issue for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7LfTa0oQ1w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Wow that's weird. Almost like a pitch shift... not sure what would cause that... definitely doesn't sound like a network "catch up" though.
Maybe joint stereo being interpreted as standard stereo. Very weird. Submit a bug report to Netflix, doesn't hurt.
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Sounds like Alvin and the Chipmunks!
Yeah its pretty crazy. I will submit to Netflix later this week.
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We found a great deal on a Samsung 55" LED today and after shifting TVs around the house I won't be using the Viesonic anymore. The good news is that the Chromecast is working fine now on the old Samsung 42"
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We found a great deal on a Samsung 55" LED today and after shifting TVs around the house I won't be using the Viesonic anymore. The good news is that the Chromecast is working fine now on the old Samsung 42"
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Congratulations on that!