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Well yea nugh said .
Yup. It would appear that there are either a) no dev's in this section of the forum, or b) everyone is lazy and just wants to wait for someone else to do everything for them. lmao.
hey there glad to see one sharing my opinion , at least there should be a mod moving all the really useless stuff from here to the other section .. oh wait a minute thatbe 99% of the threads in here
with u buddy gunna request a Dev so much work is to be done.milestone/droid is an awesome peice of hardware infact it beats most of the new phones arm chip cmon where the Devs @ ?
To be fair, it is quite silly that Milestone & Droid have a joint General section. A lot of questions have answers specific to one or the other. So all my Milestone specific qs go here since it is the only Milestone-only subforum.
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
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Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
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well if no one tries how will we make progress?there must be a way to bypass bootloader we must try.if devs never tried then none of us would ever have root so stop with the dumb remarks
Unimaginative said:
Christ almighty, what's the point of 'requesting' devs to do anything with this device when we already know it's not possible to do anything with it? What, you think just because they created a sub-forum for the Milestone on XDA suddenly everything would come up roses?
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the point of this thread is not to request dev to do soemthing , witch obviously they are busy doing/trying otherwise this section wouldnt exist ...
the point of this thread was merely an attempt at keeping this section clean of 'froyo is coming in july ' or how do I rooot on 2.1 type of questions you get the drift ...
DAGr8 said:
the point of this thread is not to request dev to do soemthing , witch obviously they are busy doing/trying otherwise this section wouldnt exist ...
the point of this thread was merely an attempt at keeping this section clean of 'froyo is coming in july ' or how do I rooot on 2.1 type of questions you get the drift ...
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In which case there needs to be a distinct Motorola Milestone General forum. I don't want to ask that question in "Droid and Milestone General" and get responses from Droid users. Until then, this is the go-to place for Milestone-only questions.
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In which case there needs to be a distinct Motorola Milestone General forum. I don't want to ask that question in "Droid and Milestone General" and get responses from Droid users. Until then, this is the go-to place for Milestone-only questions.
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Well yea exactly my point , not to start the argument with you about it , obviously this will become something else then a Dev section and it will 'soon-become' the not go-to for the Dev because it will be a mess .
I know for my part they are forums I go daily for news , and eventho this was one of them this current setion will soon become one to avoid.
This over air update, I think everyone can agree, was a complete disaster. It didn't seem to matter whether you were completely stock or rooted, etc... and it could completely brick your phone. It scared the ever loving crap out of me. My phone kept contacting the update server (never started downloading) but I was able to sneak in the update via Clockwork.
My query is this... aimed at the developers here. Is it possible in any way, that a hack could be created that would block the connection to the over air updates? It became my understanding that once it started, you were basically stuck with it and had no choice in the matter.
Is it really that difficult to post in the correct section?
My bad... I guess. I thought a question directed towards developers would belong here. A moderator is welcome to move it as they see fit. And hopefully this isn't seen as rude... I really was just trying to bring up an honest question and believed it to be posted in the right place.
No need to be rude about it, this does nothing to foster a growing community
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Rude comments instead of answers...
life2monkeys said:
No need to be rude about it, this does nothing to foster a growing community
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OP, ignore these guys...there are some of them on every forum on the Internet...they just wish they were mods. Both their posts are rude; yours was not.
Waste of space and time...
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Is it really that difficult to post in the correct section?
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You're a senior member; he is not. Loosen up a bit and stop being rude. You took the time to post your rude comment when you could just have easily given an answer (assuming you knew it which appears not be the case) and then nicely mentioned the correct location for the post.
One of the reasons I hate posting. All these people always attack everything u do or say
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Ok guys we were all new at something one time or another. Lets try to help as much a possible. This should have gone in Q&A and I will move it there here in a sec.
To answer OP As long as you dont go and check for it and agree then it should not DL and mess everything up like this one did. Anyone is free to correct me if I am wrong, noob to android myself and learning as I go
Well said.
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Ok guys we were all new at something one time or another. Lets try to help as much a possible. This should have gone in Q&A and I will move it there here in a sec.
To answer OP As long as you dont go and check for it and agree then it should not DL and mess everything up like this one did. Anyone is free to correct me if I am wrong, noob to android myself and learning as I go
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I appreciate this, I really did think I'd posed the question in the right place... as it's not a "can I stop the update" question, but "does a developer know if that area of the OS could be stopped with hack." I should add I'm not a kid asking someone to hack my phone, this is purely hypothetical.
It's not such a big deal if you can, in fact deny the over-air update. I'd gotten the impression from several posts that it was nearly forced. Maybe it was just the issue of stopped downloads that got installed partially... I'm not sure.
Anyway, thanks zelendel. What's OP? My sign on should say maximus-dev... I see OP next to peoples member level... but thought that's what meant they were signed on.
OP = original poster. i.e. the person who started the thread
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I appreciate this, I really did think I'd posed the question in the question in the right place... as it's not a can I stop the update, but does a developer know if that area of the OS could be stopped, but it's not such a big deal if you can, in fact deny the over-air update. I'd gotten the impression from several posts that it was nearly forced. Maybe it was just the issue of stopped downloads that got installed partially... I'm not sure.
Anyway, thanks zelendel. What's OP? My sign on should say maximus-dev... I see OP next to peoples names... but thought that's what meant they were signed on.
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OP stands for Orignal Poster. I think it was stopped downloads that caused some issues but I have A buddy that has one as well and he didnt even know there was an update till I told him so I think you have to check for the update, I dont see anyone being able to push an update to your phone weather you want it or not. But then again I could be wrong, been known to happen a time or two
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Ok guys we were all new at something one time or another. Lets try to help as much a possible. This should have gone in Q&A and I will move it there here in a sec.
To answer OP As long as you dont go and check for it and agree then it should not DL and mess everything up like this one did. Anyone is free to correct me if I am wrong, noob to android myself and learning as I go
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Nicely done. That's why you a mod.
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OP stands for Orignal Poster. I think it was stopped downloads that caused some issues but I have A buddy that has one as well and he didnt even know there was an update till I told him so I think you have to check for the update, I dont see anyone being able to push an update to your phone weather you want it or not. But then again I could be wrong, been known to happen a time or two
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There was an AT&T link around here that said that you are allowed to postpone updating for a up to two times but will be required to update the third time. I am not sure how that works, because I have not yet been notified of the OTA update that is going to fail (because my phone is flashed off stock). I am sure it is something like a modeless dialog box where you have two choices the first two times, but the third time you must chose to update. Since I already have the OTA update installed, I am not sure what's going to happen when my time comes, and I can't postpone any more.
I saw the install or postpone but I only saw that after I looked for the update and DL it, then of course everything went to hell lol
Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?
This thread is not going to end well.
I don't really care, they sticky everything so why not what roms are for our phones and what ones are ported. Also what order the came out in. Im done with the captivate this weekend anyway, its only a suggestion.
First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
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justin860 said:
Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?
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Look here, thanks and credit to sammobile.com----
http://www.sammobile.com/threads/36-Samsung-Letter-Code. This is good with i897, but I'm still not sure about the i9000 rom lettering system, i.e JVT = ??
You may have to register and login to see this, not sure though. Hope it helps anyway.
conantroutman said:
I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.​​
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA​
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right from
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Agree 100 %
And I answered his question the way I could to try to help a little.
And I knew this thread would eventually get moved.
PM'd conantroutman to request the move just in case no one else has.
nh5 said:
First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
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you mean this SHOULDN'T be in the development section.
EDITED per Admin's suggestions:
Hey xda,
I wanted to make a thread for people who are not as developer-savvy as others to share ideas and make requests for mods/roms/etc.
If a request or idea could generate enough feedback or support, developers would be more informed on what people would want or like to see.
Here are two things that I would personally like to see on my Nexus 4.
On your homescreen, when you press and hold the home button to go to Google Now, is it possible to add shortcuts and or folders to the extra space around the ring? This would allow the user to clean up some screen space by hiding frequent shortcuts.
Also, I would like to see app-specific security (pattern, pin, password) protection. This would allow a user to easily unlock their phone but still have the security they would want for their messaging, facebook, etc.
Thanks for reading.
I'll maintain this thread as best I can and put the best suggestions below.
Best Ideas as of January 02, 2013
Ideas will be added to this list as support is generated.
Ideas will be removed from this list as they are developed or "worked-around."
See the post number for more details.
App-specific security (pattern, pin, password) protection. OP, #1
Simultaneously video recording with both cameras. DonDizzurp, #21
Full calculator as a lock screen widget. AlwaysDroid, #23
5 PNGs as your WiFi/Signal bars. kcls, #32
Multiwindow support. DforDesign, #41
i can add the shrotcuts already in aokp. i think. gimme a sec and ill find out.
edit: yeppers. i guess this is what you are talking about. i dont use them. but i might now that you have talked about cleaning up the home screen.
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i can add the shrotcuts already in aokp. i think. gimme a sec and ill find out.
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Thanks for looking. Is it from the homescreen or lockscreen?
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Thanks for looking. Is it from the homescreen or lockscreen?
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the pic i posted was from rom control. and in the navigation bar sub menu. where you add in more buttons and such to the homescreen navbar.
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the pic i posted was from rom control. and in the navigation bar sub menu. where you add in more buttons and such to the homescreen navbar.
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Thanks again, I never tried AOKP before, but I certainly will now.
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Thanks again, I never tried AOKP before, but I certainly will now.
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i have used it for a year now. first on att gs2 and now on nexus. in my opinion... it is the supreme rom.
I don't think that XDA is here to have users make requests?
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i have used it for a year now. first on att gs2 and now on nexus. in my opinion... it is the supreme rom.
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Wonderful. I'm going to get AOKP this week then. Is this exclusively on AOKP? I haven't seen it elsewhere.
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I don't think that XDA is here to have users make requests?
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probably not blatantly as this thread :angel:, but people have made requests occasionally.
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Wonderful. I'm going to get AOKP this week then. Is this exclusively on AOKP? I haven't seen it elsewhere.
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rom control should be built into most every rom. the features they stick in rom control are different though. i would imagine they all have the navbar deal. its best to flash a rom. find its features and then wipe and add a new rom. and keep going until you find the one you like best. after you find the right one... spend the hours it takes to set up your phone the way you want. for instance.. all of this talkin has caused me to want to throw cyanogen on here to see what those guys have been up to.
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I don't think that XDA is here to have users make requests?
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^^^ What he said
XDA is a development site not a site for users to come beg with requests. If you have any doubt or are unsure of what xda is please click the link below and look at zelendel's post. Hopefully a mod locks this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2439
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There's a big difference between posting direct requests in the development forums and posting a thread in the general forum for collecting ideas you think might be cool to have developed one day. There's nothing wrong with this thread and it's not bothering anybody. It's certainly more useful than the hundreds of threads that occur at every device launch complaining about one hardware defect or another. As an amateur developer I think threads like this are cool places to look for ideas that might be fun to tackle.
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There's a big difference between posting direct requests in the development forums and posting a thread in the general forum for collecting ideas you think might be cool to have developed one day. There's nothing wrong with this thread and it's not bothering anybody. It's certainly more useful than the hundreds of threads that occur at every device launch complaining about one hardware defect or another. As an amateur developer I think threads like this are cool places to look for ideas that might be fun to tackle.
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except for the am dev part. i dunno devving.
So i was browsing the thread and i came across this, and from the title alone i was ready to shut it down......
But i as i read in to it i had to change my mind. The OP is not blatantly making a request to any specific dev. They are simply stating things they would like to see. Now i know this isnt a place to make you phone look cool and i am obviously aware of the rules. But bedoig brings up a very valid point. Some of the amateur dev's might see this as an opportunity to dig in a little deeper. This is not in the development boards and no one is making a specific request from any of the dev's, so i see no reason to shut this down at this time.
However, since i do not normally moderate this board, then i welcome this boards mods _Arjen_, iridaki, eagleeyetom, YZ, TeeJay3800, Diamondback, AvRS, krook6023 to sidestep my decision if they feel the need to.
@oneonezerosix you may want to consider changing the title of your thread to something that sounds a little less demanding. The Dev's here might take it the wrong way (just a suggestion)
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requests? no (although ive made my share of requests)
suggestions? sure, to an extent
XDA is here FOR the developers not for the average consumer to pressure devs.
as most xda OG's would say: if you want it done, do it yourself...
if you cant.. then try to learn and get the ball rolling and a dev will probably help you along the way.
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^^^ What he said
XDA is a development site not a site for users to come beg with requests. If you have any doubt or are unsure of what xda is please click the link below and look at zelendel's post. Hopefully a mod locks this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16682226&postcount=2439
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After reading the post, I can understand your perspective. All that I ask is that you attempt to understand mine as well.
Zelendel stated that, "XDA is a place to come to learn and share your knowledge."
As an amateur developer, I do not know how to develop much of the things that I wish to be able to use. It was my sole intention to facilitate a discussion of new ideas for development from varying levels of skilled members. Even the best developers can dream of new mods/roms/kernels/etc that they may be unable to produce by their own means. Which is reason enough for one to want to request the assistance of others by posting in a thread like this.
If you do not see any value in this thread, then I apologize for wasting your time.
I am not a Dev and get offended for them when someone says "please add this".
But this is a recollection of ideas, honestly, what's wrong in that? Where would the devs be with no ideas?
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I am not a Dev and get offended for them when someone says "please add this".
But this is a recollection of ideas, honestly, what's wrong in that? Where would the devs be with no ideas?
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I agree. This is an "ideas" thread, not targeted at a specific developer. A dev may take this on board and incorporate it, as they might think its a good idea
Fun fact: three marks have posted in this thread hi
OK, back on topic. Who's got ideas?
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Just figured this out totally by accident! I have the U.S. version of the GTab 2 7.0 GT-P3113, otherwise the one that has built in remote control capabilities via IR blaster. Just to let everyone know that if you flash the U.K. version of the JellyBean ROM listed on this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032683, And do so WITHOUT WIPING DATA, while coming from the STOCK 4.0.4 ROM...
YOU WILL RETAIN IR FUNCTIONALITY!!!
Peel, TouchSquid and others that use this IR port will still function.
I hope this helps at least one other person, and always you can click that little ol' ty button if you'd like to.
Old news and wrong section.
Wait Wait Wait, Would you mind pointing out where this has been covered, I can no longer find the thread. Pls and ty.
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IR should work on all stock based roms.
The issue is with non stock roms such as cm or aokp.
Please search next time before posting.
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Yep same ole XDA, only asshats with useless negative comments. Thx for the tip op, and type ****-tionary for reminding me why i never visit this hole anymore. Back to the better community on the site that actually gives help instead of "wrong place" remarks.
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Oh so clever! I told them that this has been covered. I informed him. Then I also let him know its in the wrong section, as this isn't really dev work, but more of a general thing. I'm sorry I don't have the energy to overly explain things to people every time. You can go to your lollipop forum, and leave the xda. It is not my fault that you took it in a negative way. I was not disrespectful to OP at all. If I was, then OP, I won't apologize because I didn't mean it in that way, but please understand I meant nothing ill by it. I didn't say anything rude to op, or you, to warrant your profane language and negative tone.
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Wait Wait Wait, Would you mind pointing out where this has been covered, I can no longer find the thread. Pls and ty.
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It is in a couple of the threads with stock firmwares. People with 3113 tabs flashed 3100 roms and were delighted to discover IR still working. I don't know the exact thread, but it has been covered already. Again, just letting you know it is old news, and you'll be better off posting this in the general section.
There, was that non ahatish enough? I suppose my thanks count means nada, or the multitudes I've helped via PM and email when nobody else would. Meh.
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Yep same ole XDA, only asshats with useless negative comments. Thx for the tip op, and type ****-tionary for reminding me why i never visit this hole anymore. Back to the better community on the site that actually gives help instead of "wrong place" remarks.
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Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself. Turds.:good:
Ok, I get it, should've gone under general... no need for the 3rd degree, dictionary.
You people are seriously a bunch of wimps if you considered my statements mean or rude. The world has gotten SOFT. I'm done.
the September 18th "leak" fixed the IR issue on the P3113 and any stock based 4.1.1 ROM has since been updated to that base fixing the IR issue, I've been on this section of XDA for less then a month and am aware of this. Perhaps if you have been active here in the last 3 months you might be aware of this. And not being rude but he is right, this is the development section and what you provided belongs on the general section but is frankly unneeded information as it is several months out of date as a proper fix has come out.
You guys seem to have missed the post where I already agreed that this should be under general. Also, I scavenge these forums on a daily basis, If I missed that bit of info where this is already covered, then I missed it's because it was buried in some thread that wasn't specifically covering the topic of the IR port working in non GT-P3113 OEM ROMs. I know a couple of people who've avoided using anything but the stock 4.0.4 simply for fearing the IR port not being able to function.
But that's not the point, not trying to spread old news, just trying to make specific information easier to find, which I believe I've accomplished.
Now if a moderator wants to move/delete this thread, then so be it. I understand this should've gone under general, and I can admit that I put this in the wrong section. That being said, all future posts damning my thread for being in the wrong section, will be considered trolling, which is, of course, not cool.
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You people are seriously a bunch of wimps if you considered my statements mean or rude. The world has gotten SOFT. I'm done.
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Your signature is too long and out of date and so is mine, I'm revising mine, you should do the same.
mrm0rbid99 said:
You guys seem to have missed the post where I already agreed that this should be under general. Also, I scavenge these forums on a daily basis, If I missed that bit of info where this is already covered, then I missed it's because it was buried in some thread that wasn't specifically covering the topic of the IR port working in non GT-P3113 OEM ROMs. I know a couple of people who've avoided using anything but the stock 4.0.4 simply for fearing the IR port not being able to function.
But that's not the point, not trying to spread old news, just trying to make specific information easier to find, which I believe I've accomplished.
Now if a moderator wants to move/delete this thread, then so be it. I understand this should've gone under general, and I can admit that I put this in the wrong section. That being said, all future posts damning my thread for being in the wrong section, will be considered trolling, which is, of course, not cool.
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Wrong section. . Jk. I was referring to the 3rd degree comment, but I digress. Water under the bridge.
Digital, how did you know my gnex broke!? You're psychic! Though every other device under current I do have, lol. I forgot about sigs since I only browse via tapatalk. Will revise it later. At work now and don't feel like editing on mobile.
I admit in my delightment to discover this by accident I posted hastely. Mayen running a JB ROM finally, the performance boost is quite nice, and of course its a perk to have IR functionality, I use it often.
Sorry to hear about your broken device. I wish you quality, cheap repairs!
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mrm0rbid99 said:
Just figured this out totally by accident! I have the U.S. version of the GTab 2 7.0 GT-P3113, otherwise the one that has built in remote control capabilities via IR blaster. Just to let everyone know that if you flash the U.K. version of the JellyBean ROM listed on this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032683, And do so WITHOUT WIPING DATA, while coming from the STOCK 4.0.4 ROM...
YOU WILL RETAIN IR FUNCTIONALITY!!!
Peel, TouchSquid and others that use this IR port will still function.
I hope this helps at least one other person, and always you can click that little ol' ty button if you'd like to.
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just change ur build.prop to say its a P3113
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just change ur build.prop to say its a P3113
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Done, works spledidly. Thanks for the idea.