Can chromecast send audio out of device instead of HDMI? - Google Chromecast

I just received by Chromecast today and I have an older TV. I am using an HDMI to DVI converter so no sound is being transferred.
Would it be possible to keep audio playback on the controlling device instead of the TV?

apandhi said:
I just received by Chromecast today and I have an older TV. I am using an HDMI to DVI converter so no sound is being transferred.
Would it be possible to keep audio playback on the controlling device instead of the TV?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not that I know of. You could get an audio adapter, but it would cost more than the device. Best bet is that we can get a client ready for the Raspberry Pi, and that can use 3.5 audio.

I doubt it. The clever bit about the Chromecast is that *it* decodes the incoming stream; once started you can turn off "the controlling device" & everything will continue to run undisturbed.
To decode the incoming stream and send the video to HDMI but redirect the audio portion as an outgoing stream to another device...
I suspect that is too much of an edge case.
Your setup, as it stands, appears incompatible with how the Chromecast operates. I'd look into returning the Chromecast as unsuitable, resell it, or invest in DVI+audio out hardware or go HDMI.
Your Milage May Vary.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Maggard said:
I doubt it. The clever bit about the Chromecast is that *it* decodes the incoming stream; once started you can turn off "the controlling device" & everything will continue to run undisturbed.
To decode the incoming stream and send the video to HDMI but redirect the audio portion as an outgoing stream to another device...
I suspect that is too much of an edge case.
Your setup, as it stands, appears incompatible with how the Chromecast operates. I'd look into returning the Chromecast as unsuitable, resell it, or invest in DVI+audio out hardware or go HDMI.
Your Milage May Vary.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Might be able to use a USB sound dongle if root will let you. So I guess keep some hope alive.

INCORRECT, SEE NEXT POST FROM CHARLIE460
OLD, WRONG, POST: Not to be negative, but from the hardware descriptions the µUSB port is power only, the data lines aren't even connected.

Maggard said:
Not to be negative, but from the hardware descriptions the µUSB port is power only, the data lines aren't even connected.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You would be incorrect, custom image has been flashed via OTG already.
http://www.gtvhacker.com/index.php/Google_Chromecast#Bootloader_Exploit_Package

Correction noted
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Chromecast HDMI to VGA + analog audio
http://www.svideo.com/cc2vga.html
$60

dkerlee said:
http://www.svideo.com/cc2vga.html
$60
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks interesting. Do you know how it handles the signal timings? That will determine how compatible the device is with VGA devices. Not all devices that accept VGA will accept video 720p or 1080p resolutions correctly displayed and centered.

bhiga said:
Looks interesting. Do you know how it handles the signal timings? That will determine how compatible the device is with VGA devices. Not all devices that accept VGA will accept video 720p or 1080p resolutions correctly displayed and centered.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well he was already using a DVI adaptor so chances are likely he will not have many issues displaying 720 or 1080 since any monitor with a DVI will in most cases do well above those resolutions....
but the problem he is going to run into is that things like Netflix are probably going to require HDCP which he won't get with that device.
And no converter device or adapter available will ever get him the HDCP.

Asphyx said:
And no converter device or adapter available will ever get him the HDCP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HDfury is HDCP-compliant but not available in some regions for legal reasons.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.

Related

Ouya display output on Notebook

Hi there,
i was searching for a way i could stream the video output of my ouya on my Notebook. Without using the HDMI output.
The Idea came because i only have one HDMI TV and i am not livng alone, so for basic things the sreaming would be good for me.
Anyone some ideas?
Greetz
Jabbad
Jabbad said:
Hi there,
i was searching for a way i could stream the video output of my ouya on my Notebook. Without using the HDMI output.
The Idea came because i only have one HDMI TV and i am not livng alone, so for basic things the sreaming would be good for me.
Anyone some ideas?
Greetz
Jabbad
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mods, please move this thread to the q&a section..
To kind of answer your question, look for something that shares the screen from a phone/tablet over tcp to a laptop and sideload it.
You can by ALIENWARE m18x laptop, it has separate both HDMI in and out.
So you can connect OUYA via hdmi cable to it.:silly:
Simonius007 said:
You can by ALIENWARE m18x laptop, it has separate both HDMI in and out.
So you can connect OUYA via hdmi cable to it.:silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
with that kinda of reply he is far better getting a new tv.
just get one of these
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=4088&seq=1&format=2
It seems like everything uses HDMI these days, from home theater equipment to your Android phone. With so many HDMI devices in use, most televisions quickly run out of available HDMI input ports. You don't want the hassle of plugging and unplugging cables whenever you want to watch or play something different and you don't want the expense of new TV. Just get this 4x1 Enhanced HDMI Switch from Monoprice!
What he is looking for is a alternative option to the TV he shares. I don't think many laptops have video in. You would need to get a USB device to do that. However those are capture devices and I believe the OUYA signal has DRM restrictions.
Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Some USB capture devices have been known to work, you'll have to look that up, but there is a dev working on a way to do it over a network. Right now it's still in the concept phases, however, and I wouldn't expect to see it anytime soon.

HDMI Output to 720p

Hi @all,
I've a problem with Chromecast. My setup is that I'm using an Onkyo receiver which has plenty of HDMI slots. Since I've no TV I've connected a monitor to the Onkyo. Unfortunately the monitor works at best in 720p (I've also attached a PS3 to the system where I'm also using 720p)...
So my question is, can I force Chromecast to output its HDMI signal in 720p. I don't have any image at the moment, with the exception during booting... (I see the Chrome Logo).
Any ideas????
ccflo said:
Hi @all,
I've a problem with Chromecast. My setup is that I'm using an Onkyo receiver which has plenty of HDMI slots. Since I've no TV I've connected a monitor to the Onkyo. Unfortunately the monitor works at best in 720p (I've also attached a PS3 to the system where I'm also using 720p)...
So my question is, can I force Chromecast to output its HDMI signal in 720p. I don't have any image at the moment, with the exception during booting... (I see the Chrome Logo).
Any ideas????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
720p is the highest and I believe the default that chromecast outputs at. You can change to 720p high or low bitrate, or 480p via the chrome browser extension.Sorry I was thinking about tab casting when I read the OP.
supernova_00 said:
720p is the highest and I believe the default that chromecast outputs at. You can change to 720p high or low bitrate, or 480p via the chrome browser extension.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's false. That setting is only for the resolution of the tab-casting. Not the output of the Chromecast. Chromecast outputs a 1080p signal. (https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromecast). I beleive it even upscales lower resolution content to 1080 but I can't confirm on my current setup.
rekh127 said:
That's false. That setting is only for the resolution of the tab-casting. Not the output of the Chromecast. Chromecast outputs a 1080p signal. (https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromecast). I beleive it even upscales lower resolution content to 1080 but I can't confirm on my current setup.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you so far.... yes, it is about the signal what's coming out of the chromecast not about casting! I definitely need 720p and I hope somebody can tell me how to force this device to do this.... Normally you could do this on any device (PCs, PS3, Xbox, Ouya...).
I'm really open to any advice.
Hi, I'm wondering if you found any answer to forcing(?) chromecast to a certain resolution. I'm wondering if the chipset inside the stick is capable of outputting anything other than 1080P? In my case I have to have 480P or 1080i (my TV is too old that it doesn't even accept 720P <LOL>). I know the Roku3 won't output anything lower than 720P so I'm wondering what the chip inside chromecast is capable & if there are ways to turn the switches on/off?
I'm still searching for a solution... none found yet.
What I figured out is that Chromecast can detect what the device can display at maximum. There is a standard to this...
But in my case (the AV receiver which accepts full resolution but the display not) I can't force it to do this... I submitted a feature request at Google help... I also read that people claim Google are very much interested in getting feedback... so I did what I can do.
So for now my Chromecast is just an Audio Stream adapter... but a quite good one so net completely useless for me
Thank you for the heads-up and I'm glad you are getting use out of it
Been looking around and found some info on the variant of SoC that is in the stick (from Marvell) as that thread suggested the info on Marvell site is thin and nothing about resolution. I sent an inquiry to their sales support but since I'm not looking to buy a lot of 10k of those SoC on the pallet so I'm not holding my breath for an answer. Also the thread said that it is not quite the same SoC so they were suspecting a neutered on customized for Google.
ccflo said:
I'm still searching for a solution... none found yet.
What I figured out is that Chromecast can detect what the device can display at maximum. There is a standard to this...
But in my case (the AV receiver which accepts full resolution but the display not) I can't force it to do this... I submitted a feature request at Google help... I also read that people claim Google are very much interested in getting feedback... so I did what I can do.
So for now my Chromecast is just an Audio Stream adapter... but a quite good one so net completely useless for me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a similar problem, as I'm trying to run my Chromecast on a non-TV.
Short of Google giving options (which would be GREAT - most HDMI sources allow selecting what resolution gets sent), you could use an in-line EDID "injector" like Gefen HDMI Detective. They also have a DVI version of it called DVI Detective.
EDIT: Another option may be the Dr HDMI
In your case I would set the HDMI Detective to report that it only supports 480P and 720P resolutions and put it after your receiver (between receiver and monitor), so all your devices see proper progressive-only EDID.
Alternatively you could try to see if you can reprogram your monitor's EDID (via something like Powerstrip), though that's significantly more dangerous especially if you're a novice.
bhiga said:
I have a similar problem, as I'm trying to run my Chromecast on a non-TV.
Short of Google giving options (which would be GREAT - most HDMI sources allow selecting what resolution gets sent), you could use an in-line EDID "injector" like Gefen HDMI Detective. They also have a DVI version of it called DVI Detective.
EDIT: Another option may be the Dr HDMI
In your case I would set the HDMI Detective to report that it only supports 480P and 720P resolutions and put it after your receiver (between receiver and monitor), so all your devices see proper progressive-only EDID.
Alternatively you could try to see if you can reprogram your monitor's EDID (via something like Powerstrip), though that's significantly more dangerous especially if you're a novice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Gefen is $129 and the Dr. HDMI is $399!
He'd be better off buying a new Monitor.
Dr. HDMI is only $99 (full boat HDfury3 is $399, Dr. HDMI is down past). But I agree, if money is to be thrown at the problem it's poetically better spent on a new monitor, unless you have something special.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk now Free
bhiga said:
Dr. HDMI is only $99 (full boat HDfury3 is $399, Dr. HDMI is down past). But I agree, if money is to be thrown at the problem it's poetically better spent on a new monitor, unless you have something special.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk now Free
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK, thanks for the correction. I clicked the buy now button and it showed up as $399, and I thought somethings wrong here.
OP, What monitor do you have? Does it not show any picture or is the picture quality just not good?
I recently did a search for best TV under $500 and their are some decent options for the money. My parents just picked up a 32" LCD TV from Costco on clearance for $180. It a Sceptre and 720p, but looks good and can handle a 1080p feed. It was on clearence, so might be hard to find at that price, but you can get a decent TV on the cheap with a little legwork.
Good luck.
FWIW as a test I have my Chromecast running to a Planar 1024x768 VGA monitor through a HDfury2.
The Planar says it's getting a 1280x720 signal, and I can tell from the green tint that it's receiving YPbPr (aka YUV).
So Chromecast definitely can output 720p if it thinks that's all the monitor can accept.
and I meant "probably" not "poetically" heh
any news?? I have a 720p projector connected to the onkyo. The chromecast doesn´t appear...
psikonetik said:
any news?? I have a 720p projector connected to the onkyo. The chromecast doesn´t appear...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you wall power Chromecast and boot it directly connected to the projector with the projector on, do you get picture?
-= this post enhanced with bonus mobile typos =-
bhiga said:
If you wall power Chromecast and boot it directly connected to the projector with the projector on, do you get picture?
-= this post enhanced with bonus mobile typos =-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When the screen says "starting...." I can see the picture well, I guess its on 720p, then it appears chromecast logo blurry and then a red noise digital noise screen.
I guess I need to change chromecast output resolution...
psikonetik said:
When the screen says "starting...." I can see the picture well, I guess its on 720p, then it appears chromecast logo blurry and then a red noise digital noise screen.
I guess I need to change chromecast output resolution...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
IIRC the boot screen is 480p.
This could be a failure of resolution negotiation (projector tells Chromecast it supports a resolution it can't handle) or missing/broken HDCP support on the projector.
Unfortunately you can't force Chromecast to a specific resolution so you'd have to control the reported supported resolutions with Dr. HDMI or similar that I mentioned earlier in the thread.
Is the digital noise blocky or more like fine random colored pixels?
-= this post enhanced with bonus mobile typos =-
The digital noise are red vertical lines at the screen, if I press the home button on my onkyo remote it changes to the casted image in 4 squares disorganized...
I find dr HDMI very expensive and I don´t think google will solve this issue. Maybe scene will do it eventually.
Well now I have a music streamer hehe, maybe I'll buy an fire tv or an apple tv...
Thanks a lot!
psikonetik said:
The digital noise are red vertical lines at the screen, if I press the home button on my onkyo remote it changes to the casted image in 4 squares disorganized...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting. Definitely sounds like your projector doesn't like what Chromecast is sending, maybe it doesn't like 1080p. Regardless, considering the cost of Chromecast I would just use it on another display or gift it to someone else and go with a more "full" player.
-= this post enhanced with bonus mobile typos =-

[Q] Cast Xbox 360 with a Chromecast to another chromecast on TV

Is it possible to Cast from a Chromecast?
Ever since I heard of the Chromecast, the first thing I thought of is "Now I have an xbox in every room in the house!" My thought is to plug in a Chromecast to the back of an Xbox (or PS3) and plug in another to whatever tv I want to play it on.
Of course I have to find out how to make the Chromecast transmit instead of receive. Not sure if its even possible though. The Idea of a truly wireless xbox where all you do is plug it in and its wireless internet and video signal?! That's too juicy to pass up.
Thoughts anyone?
:fingers-crossed:
tonyperez0 said:
Is it possible to Cast from a Chromecast?
Ever since I heard of the Chromecast, the first thing I thought of is "Now I have an xbox in every room in the house!" My thought is to plug in a Chromecast to the back of an Xbox (or PS3) and plug in another to whatever tv I want to play it on.
Of course I have to find out how to make the Chromecast transmit instead of receive. Not sure if its even possible though. The Idea of a truly wireless xbox where all you do is plug it in and its wireless internet and video signal?! That's too juicy to pass up.
Thoughts anyone?
:fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No!
It's not meant to take input only output signal through HDMI.
besides it would never work for playing games anyway with the inherent delay and lag of the video.
This is a very outrageous topic tbqh
That's like asking a diesel car to accept regular gas, just because
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
tonyperez0 said:
Is it possible to Cast from a Chromecast?
Ever since I heard of the Chromecast, the first thing I thought of is "Now I have an xbox in every room in the house!" My thought is to plug in a Chromecast to the back of an Xbox (or PS3) and plug in another to whatever tv I want to play it on.
Of course I have to find out how to make the Chromecast transmit instead of receive. Not sure if its even possible though. The Idea of a truly wireless xbox where all you do is plug it in and its wireless internet and video signal?! That's too juicy to pass up.
Thoughts anyone?
:fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could do this with a SlingBox, but it would have to much latency.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
This is what you are trying to do, there's a reason these thing cost nearly 200 bucks. You aren't going to get that out of your 2 35 dollar chromecasts, and if you did it wouldn't work 1/10 as well.
There are better wireless hdmis but this is one of the smallest profile ones. FYI I do not use these as anything in my house that does not move around frequently get wired, both HDMI and Network, but if you're in need of wireless hdmi this looks like your best bet.
http://www.amazon.com/Nyrius-Transm...9C/ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_0_1/185-5298718-8574607
gottahavit said:
This is what you are trying to do, there's a reason these thing cost nearly 200 bucks. You aren't going to get that out of your 2 35 dollar chromecasts, and if you did it wouldn't work 1/10 as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most definitely ^THIS^
A wireless connection will always have some amount of delay, and less delay requires more bandwidth and/or faster processing as using compression also introduces delay for compression at the source and decompression at the receiver.
Nyrius to Chromecast?
How about casting from your Nyrius device to a Chromecast?
Or anyone know of an equivalent Nyrius that's compatible with Chromecast? i'd love to get rid of some cables.
hannibal888 said:
How about casting from your Nyrius device to a Chromecast?
Or anyone know of an equivalent Nyrius that's compatible with Chromecast? i'd love to get rid of some cables.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They're really different animals.
The paired ends are important.
The best analogy I can come up with is, unfortunately, video.
You can run "video over a Cat5 cable" primarily two ways:
video over IP, which requires digitization of the video, compression, network packetization, then transfer over the network, and decompression of the video on the other end, and output
video over a balun, which essentially just uses the Cat5 cable not as a network cable, but just as a cable. It's not a network signal on the cable, and it can't be routed, switched, etc.
Chromecast falls into the first category, which is more limited in terms of what it can do on the connection.
bhiga said:
They're really different animals.
The paired ends are important.
The best analogy I can come up with is, unfortunately, video.
You can run "video over a Cat5 cable" primarily two ways:
video over IP, which requires digitization of the video, compression, network packetization, then transfer over the network, and decompression of the video on the other end, and output
video over a balun, which essentially just uses the Cat5 cable not as a network cable, but just as a cable. It's not a network signal on the cable, and it can't be routed, switched, etc.
Chromecast falls into the first category, which is more limited in terms of what it can do on the connection.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I grasp the concept. Although, if a googlebox were to be made, compatible with chromecast, I would definitely buy it for my systems.
hannibal888 said:
I think I grasp the concept. Although, if a googlebox were to be made, compatible with chromecast, I would definitely buy it for my systems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nothing stops them or even someone else from doing so.
It's just the HDMI input hardware and encoding horsepower (probably a hardware encoder) that would be necessary. And of course an app to tell Chromecast where to source the video stream.
Likely the most difficult part would be making it HDCP compliant, as the incoming HDMI would need to be decoded and compressed in the digital space, which is the "no-no zone" for HDCP.
With multiple encoder devices, you could even use Chromecast to switch between multiple video inputs, or as a round-robin surveillance viewer, though there would be a delay when switching between sources.

[Q] Setup issue. Black home screen

I've just bought a Chromecast device and I'm trying to
setup it. The problem is that when I plug it to the tv, a message appears
saying "Starting chromecast" and then the Chrome logo. After that, black
screen. Nothing appears. The setup program in my pc can find the device but
I can't see anything on the TV.
My TV model is LG 32LE5500
I tried rebooting the TV by unplugging everything and nothing changed.
Also I tried the Chromecast devide in another TV and it worked there, but it's not my TV and I need it to work in the LG one.
I've tried all hdmi ports and it's the same in all of them. The chrome logo and then black.
The last thing I did is to configure the device from the other TV and then plug it on the TV that doesn't work. I realized that the audio does work, I launched the YouTube app from my cellphone and I could hear the video, but again, black screen.
Could it be that my TV has a resolution of 1900x1080 and not 1920x1080?
Please I will appreaciate any kind of help, I really wanted to use the device and it's useless for me right now
According to LG, that's a normal 1080p screen.
http://www.lg.com/levant_en/tvs/lg-32LE5500-led/technical-specifications
More likely there's a router setup issue. This may help as a starting point -
https://support.google.com/chromecast/table/3477832?hl=en
santi.marro said:
I've just bought a Chromecast device and I'm trying to
setup it. The problem is that when I plug it to the tv, a message appears
saying "Starting chromecast" and then the Chrome logo. After that, black
screen. Nothing appears. The setup program in my pc can find the device but
I can't see anything on the TV.
...
Could it be that my TV has a resolution of 1900x1080 and not 1920x1080?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your TV is 1080p, so it's 1920 horizontal.
IIRC the boot logo sends 480p, then Chromecast negotiates with the TV as to what resolutions are supported.
Your TV might not be playing nice in the negotiation process.
So, try booting Chromecast without it connected to the TV.
Disconnect power from Chromecast
Disconnect Chromecast from TV
Reapply power to Chromecast
Wait for it to boot (wait until LED goes solid steady white)
Turn on TV if it is not already on
Set TV to Chromecast input
Plug Chromecast into TV input
bhiga said:
Your TV is 1080p, so it's 1920 horizontal.
IIRC the boot logo sends 480p, then Chromecast negotiates with the TV as to what resolutions are supported.
Your TV might not be playing nice in the negotiation process.
So, try booting Chromecast without it connected to the TV.
Disconnect power from Chromecast
Disconnect Chromecast from TV
Reapply power to Chromecast
Wait for it to boot (wait until LED goes solid steady white)
Turn on TV if it is not already on
Set TV to Chromecast input
Plug Chromecast into TV input
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tried it and it's the same, a black screen. It works with a monitor that I have and another TV, but, sadly, I need it to work in the LG TV
EarlyMon said:
According to LG, that's a normal 1080p screen.
More likely there's a router setup issue. This may help as a starting point -
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The chromecast device works, I checked it and configured it in another TV, but I need it to work in the LG one.
santi.marro said:
I tried it and it's the same, a black screen. It works with a monitor that I have and another TV, but, sadly, I need it to work in the LG TV
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very strange. Almost sounds like an HDCP handshake problem.
Try the HDMI extender in case it's just not plugging in quite right.
Other than that, you can try disabling HDMI CEC (LG calls it SimpLink) and see if that makes a difference.
Do you know what firmware build it has? (Chromecast app will tell you)
bhiga said:
Very strange. Almost sounds like an HDCP handshake problem.
Try the HDMI extender in case it's just not plugging in quite right.
Other than that, you can try disabling HDMI CEC (LG calls it SimpLink) and see if that makes a difference.
Do you know what firmware build it has? (Chromecast app will tell you)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've just tried the device with the extender and SimpLink deactivated and it's the same again
Here I leave a screenshot of the Chromecast app attached
santi.marro said:
I've just tried the device with the extender and SimpLink deactivated and it's the same again
Here I leave a screenshot of the Chromecast app attached
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice names.
Well, you're on the latest firmware build (15250) so either Google broke something in the newest update, or your TV is finicky.
Since your TV is Smart, it might have a firmware update available.
Wait... The specs say "TruMotion 100Hz" - is your TV PAL? It might not support NTSC input...
bhiga said:
Nice names.
Well, you're on the latest firmware build (15250) so either Google broke something in the newest update, or your TV is finicky.
Since your TV is Smart, it might have a firmware update available.
Wait... The specs say "TruMotion 100Hz" - is your TV PAL? It might not support NTSC input...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
HDMI doesn't care about PAL vs NTSC frequencies by design, exactly why so many in the UK were able to adopt early last year.
EarlyMon said:
HDMI doesn't care about PAL vs NTSC frequencies by design, exactly why so many in the UK were able to adopt early last year.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While I agree that it shouldn't matter in this day and age, they still exist separately in the EDID data because of the differing pixel clocks.
It's possible (though ill-advised) for a modern display to reject an input signal based on it being 50/100 Hz or 60/120 Hz.
I deal with a lot of AV stuff and have run into this issue from time to time.
Well, TIL then.
EarlyMon said:
Well, TIL then.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm learning every day... sometimes the hard way.
Traditionally European TV sets have been more forgiving than their US counterparts, accepting NTSC "nudged" into PAL-60 or NTSC 4.43 in the analog realm.
While the transition to HD did unify the display resolutions and pixel aspect ratios (everything's square, yay!), the differences in refresh/sampling rates remained.
One day my friend, one day... everything will be 600 Hz or better so 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 fps content will all be supported and play without judder or needing interpolation. :cyclops:
So back to the topic at hand, it's possible the OP's TV doesn't know what to do with a 30/60 Hz input from Chromecast, though that would be quite silly of LG to impose such a restriction. Still, silly happens more often than you think for all kinds of reasons (gray market sales due to varying exchange rates and import/export laws often is a concern, as we burden on regional support that got no revenue from the foreign sale).
TBH, I don't know for certain whether Chromecast is capable of 25/50 Hz output, it might be. But being that Google isn't selling it outside of US/Canada yet, I doubt they've tested it.
>> Anybody in Europe, can you confirm me whether Chromecast outputs 720/50p, 1080/50i or 1080/50p to your TV? <<
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
Thank you for all your replies,
For what I know, my TV accept NTSC but I'm not 100% sure. I am from South America by the way, in theory electronics here are NTSC.
kDnZP said:
Sent from my Nexus 10 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That TV in the picture you posted is very similar to the one I have. Did you have any problem using the chromecast device?
The link I gave was from the Eastern Mediterranean, I was more curious about verifying your resolution at the time. There's a 60/120 Hz (NTSC) version of your set, same model number, popular in several South American countries.
I apologize for adding the confusion.
santi.marro said:
That TV in the picture you posted is very similar to the one I have. Did you have any problem using the chromecast device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have not any problem with LG 26LE3300 (1366x768 native resolution).
santi.marro said:
Thank you for all your replies,
For what I know, my TV accept NTSC but I'm not 100% sure. I am from South America by the way, in theory electronics here are NTSC.
That TV in the picture you posted is very similar to the one I have. Did you have any problem using the chromecast device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm, should work.
Worst-case, since you have other displays that Chromecast does display properly on, you could try this: (it worked on 13300, haven't had need or opportunity to try it on 14975 or 15250)
Locate working monitor and LG TV in close proximity
Connect Chromecast to working monitor and wall power
Once Chromecast is booted, unplug Chromecast from monitor only
Plug Chromecast into LG TV
Likely this will not survive a Chromecast reboot though...
I've got a Sanyo DP50740, and my Chromecast is now showing this same behavior. It used to work fine, but I think that the update to firmware 15250 broke something with hdcp in some TV's.
I filed a bug with Google, but the end result was that the google helpdesk can't tell what was updated in the latest build.
I suggest you file a similar bug with Google, so that they see that this is happening with multple TV models.
Until they fix this I'm stuck with a paperweight.
AustinMartin said:
Until they fix this I'm stuck with a paperweight.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It won't sync up even if you hot-plug Chromecast HDMI after it's already booted?
bhiga said:
It won't sync up even if you hot-plug Chromecast HDMI after it's already booted?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, tried that. The only thing I haven't tried is to boot up plugged into another device then plug in. Don't have any portable monitors with hdmi input. It might be that they fixed this glitch in the latest firmware.
This is the annoyance of allowing google to update firmware at will. They can break your device, and there's then nothing you can do except wait for the next release. That's why I encourage the original poster to file a bug with them. That's their only window into what's happening.
AustinMartin said:
Nope, tried that. The only thing I haven't tried is to boot up plugged into another device then plug in.
...
They can break your device, and there's then nothing you can do except wait for the next release. That's why I encourage the original poster to file a bug with them. That's their only window into what's happening.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The no HDMI and different HDMI scenarios should be different, they have been in my case at least, but understand not having a practical means to try.
Agree. That's the danger of forced updates.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.

For those having problems with LG tv's not displaying chromecast

This was driving me.crazy for days. My receiver would play chromecast on my LG tv but when plugged directly to any hdmi port on my LG tv, nothing would happen. My LG would say starting chromecast, then nothing, no signal. I tried all Google troubleshoot recommendations and nothing. Finally, when I changed the aspect ratio of my tv to 4:3 then unplugged and plugged the chromecast back in (movie was already being casted from Netflix) it finally recognized it and I was showing the movie! It worked on all hdmi ports, after being able to cast, i then changed the aspect ratio back to just scan or 16:9 . Hope this helps somebody
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
No issues with my lg 2013 led 3d model. Set to 16:9 as normal and has always worked. Wonder if it is more a model specific issue. You should post your TV model info for others to compare as it isn't really "lg TVs" exactly
Sent from my SCH-R970 using Tapatalk
shelby04861 said:
No issues with my lg 2013 led 3d model. Set to 16:9 as normal and has always worked. Wonder if it is more a model specific issue. You should post your TV model info for others to compare as it isn't really "lg TVs" exactly
Sent from my SCH-R970 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There have been many different TV's with this issue, especially with LG TVs. My sanyo has a similar issue, so I'm about to try this.
There have been many similar reports over on the chromcast google users forum:
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!forum/chromecast
I just jumped on over there. A few here and there but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason. What I am getting at is we really need model number of TV, how you have it setup, is powered by USB wall adapter or USB port on TV, extension vs no extension. If we can get model info and setup info we might be able to learn more. Even TV firmware will help. From there we might be able to find another person with the exact same TV to learn if they have the same issue or not. Just want to help of course so don't take this the wrong way. It could be something simple.
Sent from my SCH-R970 using Tapatalk
It could be something as simple as a timing issue, especially in the case where Chromecast is powered by TV USB port.
Counter-intuitive as it may seem, HDMI prefers being plugged in to a "live" receiver for the handshake to happen. If the TV doesn't listen to HDMI while powered "off" but Chromecast still gets powered, Chromecast might not negotiate the HDMI handshake properly - and that usually requires a disconnect and reconnect to renegotiate.
IMO Google should really push wall power more. TV power is asking potential trouble if the TV powers off the USB port while flashing an update. Unless the TV specifically supports connecting a USB hard drive, I don't expect it to have any sort of predictable power output. Yes, I know USB spec says it must, but I've had numerous USB hosts with variable output, or at least that's what USB Voltage Doctor tells me...
I actually did this this weekend....
I have my TV mounted to a wall like most people and there is a pair of dual outlets on the wall that the TV plugs into...
I replaced one of the standard AC outlets with one that had a single Grounded AC and Two USB ports and now power my CCast with those.
Most folks use the TV USB because it hides the wires but for the price of $5 you can replace a outlet and get a much better USB Power source.
shelby04861 said:
I just jumped on over there. A few here and there but there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason. What I am getting at is we really need model number of TV, how you have it setup, is powered by USB wall adapter or USB port on TV, extension vs no extension. If we can get model info and setup info we might be able to learn more. Even TV firmware will help. From there we might be able to find another person with the exact same TV to learn if they have the same issue or not. Just want to help of course so don't take this the wrong way. It could be something simple.
Sent from my SCH-R970 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Someone over there, I'm assuming who works at google, keeps insinuating that they only have problems with TV's that have bad EDID's.
AustinMartin said:
Someone over there, I'm assuming who works at google, keeps insinuating that they only have problems with TV's that have bad EDID's.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would be easy (but not free) to test with an EDID replacer like Dr. HDMI or HDMI Detective but to be honest I would expect other HDMI sources like DVRs and Blu-ray players to also have trouble if it was truly an EDID issue.
I know some very old (early days of HD) sets report they accept 1080p but don't actually display it, which is an EDID issue, but that really shouldn't be happening for anything modern.
bhiga said:
Would be easy (but not free) to test with an EDID replacer like Dr. HDMI or HDMI Detective but to be honest I would expect other HDMI sources like DVRs and Blu-ray players to also have trouble if it was truly an EDID issue.
I know some very old (early days of HD) sets report they accept 1080p but don't actually display it, which is an EDID issue, but that really shouldn't be happening for anything modern.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you would think, but google hasn't really made too much hdmi input equipment. The major things that are failing with hdmi issues are non-1080 native TV's such as 720 plasma's, and a lot of LG problems. I think that the latter additions to the edid standard to accommodate hdtv signals might be the issue.
Of course it would be nice if Google actually listed the TV sets that they are having issues with, but at least one person listed that when they talked to google support direct, they said that the one TV wasn't supported right now.
42Lw5300 from the wall outlet and from the tv usb both work
When I first got the cc it worked flawlessly on the tv hdmi input. Then I decided to plug it into my av receiver then when I went back to the tv recently, it wasn't working. All I got was , starting chromecast and then it would switch to the LG screensaver saying no signal. Numerous hard resets nothing..then I did the change screen format thing and it worked all the way
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
I did the switch my tv thing to 4:3 after I notice when the cc starts it looks like the starting chromecast font was at a lower resolution...so by switching it I thought it would recognize my cc at that a lower resolution
Sent from my HTCONE using xda app-developers app
pelon90005 said:
I did the switch my tv thing to 4:3 after I notice when the cc starts it looks like the starting chromecast font was at a lower resolution...so by switching it I thought it would recognize my cc at that a lower resolution
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AFAIK the Chromecast boot screen is 480p, but after that Chromecast will try to negotiate 720p or 1080p.
Aspect ratio (4:3 or 16:9) just determines how your TV handles the signal (don't stretch or anamorphic stretch) - it shouldn't change what the TV communicates.
I was also having problems with my LG television and Chromecast. Chromecast turned on via the LG's usb port but tv was pitch black. I had to pull the powercord off and plug it in 2-3 times before the tv worked. Turns out that the LG had faulty panel.. and the TV was like that from the first moment I bought it. Hooray for warranty! The tv was 2 weeks old when I had it repaired.

Categories

Resources