Hello folks,
I own a Xperia Z since its release, but only recently I bought a dock and a bluetooth headset. Before that, all the time I was opening ang closing the flaps that protect the phone from water. I knew that was not good for those little isolating rubbers attached to the flap, which do the job, but I thought they would take longer to break. Both sim and sd card ports are like new, but the micro usb port and the 3,5mm jack port are damaged, and the water indicator is red =\
Where can I buy new flaps? I want to replace the damaged ones for new ones.
I bought this phone in a travel to USA, because in Brazil it was not lauched, so I can't get the flaps in some Sony repair centre.
thanks
Please, help. I really need a new headphone flap.
Have you tried Ebay, pal?
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Have you tried Ebay, pal?
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Yes brother, no one found.
paulinodf said:
Yes brother, no one found.
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try either just googling it to see if some online distributor has miscellaneous parts for sale, or check a local cell phone store to see if they have some wrecked one you could buy parts off of
I take it you're replacing the flaps so that you can get service you are not entitled to? There really is no other reason to replace the flaps...
Rekoil said:
I take it you're replacing the flaps so that you can get service you are not entitled to? There really is no other reason to replace the flaps...
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The OP didn't say the phone was damaged, only that the water ingress indicators were red.
Perhaps they want to replace the flaps simply to prevent more water from entering and actually damaging the phone.
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kingvortex said:
The OP didn't say the phone was damaged, only that the water ingress indicators were red.
Perhaps they want to replace the flaps simply to prevent more water from entering and actually damaging the phone.
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That's actually a pretty good point hehe. Sorry for jumping to conclusions OP!
The phone is not damaged really... Some water did get inside it, but nothing a night in the rice couldn't handle. It's working fine now... but not water resistant anymore. The little rubbers on the usb and headphone flaps are damaged, so the indicator is red (I don't think they can go white again). I'm using a dock and a bluetooth set now, but it's too late. I want to buy new flaps and replace them myself, that's it.
And no, I couldn't find any yet =[
http://www.etradesupply.com/sony/all-models/sony-xperia-z-l36h.html?p=2
Are you sure it's the flaps and not the back plate?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304680
New flaps coming with the new housing, and new housing coming with a new LCD+Touch unit wont be cheap pal.
No point to get new housing alone as you going to crack your lcd anyway when you take the battery out.
For you if you really want to change flaps need to get: a parts only unit.
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New flaps coming with the new housing, and new housing coming with a new LCD+Touch unit wont be cheap pal.
No point to get new housing alone as you going to crack your lcd anyway when you take the battery out.
For you if you really want to change flaps need to get: a parts only unit.
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I changed just my SIM flap I have to check the site I bought them off when I get home but there sold and can be changed without taking the housing apart so please don't scare people with UN true stuff
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As a matter of fact I see someone already posted a link you can get all four on etrade for like ten bucks and there's a whole thread about this plus YouTube videos again open easily and cheaply replaced without part phones and housings
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paulinodf said:
The phone is not damaged really... Some water did get inside it, but nothing a night in the rice couldn't handle. It's working fine now... but not water resistant anymore. The little rubbers on the usb and headphone flaps are damaged, so the indicator is red (I don't think they can go white again). I'm using a dock and a bluetooth set now, but it's too late. I want to buy new flaps and replace them myself, that's it.
And no, I couldn't find any yet =[
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You're right they cannot turn white again (at least not on their own), they turn red as a result of a chemical reaction with the hydrogen(?) in the water.
Jonathan2677 said:
I changed just my SIM flap I have to check the site I bought them off when I get home but there sold and can be changed without taking the housing apart so please don't scare people with UN true stuff
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As a matter of fact I see someone already posted a link you can get all four on etrade for like ten bucks and there's a whole thread about this plus YouTube videos again open easily and cheaply replaced without part phones and housings
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About youtube the guy broke the lcd and with his tool scratched the ribbon,which likely makes the audio not working.
Sorry I'm not scaring, I used to do that almost every day... If an small piece of the original flap's white joint still inside, there is no way you can close it properly even if you stuff the new in, because it will be on the way. You need to dismantle the unit to get the broken piece out. there is no spare room inside. At work when we have an xpz with battery change we just order a new LCD+Full housing with it then remove battery and mainboard than fit it in the new housing with a new battery because the Battery 90-95% cracks the LCD when we pull it out. To remove the mainboard we need to take the battery out.The LCD just 2mm thick not even a frame on it, and the battery is glued onto the LCD with a strong glue. That's why when you drop your phone your lcd breaks, not because is a piece of glass rather because the battery breaks it. Consider this i just want to help, not scare. Top of that you not supposed to know any of this info. I only know because i been trained to do it, by a sony tech, as i working in an official service provider for EE.
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About youtube the guy broke the lcd and with his tool scratched the ribbon,which likely makes the audio not working.
Sorry I'm not scaring, I used to do that almost every day... If an small piece of the original flap's white joint still inside, there is no way you can close it properly even if you stuff the new in, because it will be on the way. You need to dismantle the unit to get the broken piece out. there is no spare room inside. At work when we have an xpz with battery change we just order a new LCD+Full housing with it then remove battery and mainboard than fit it in the new housing with a new battery because the Battery 90-95% cracks the LCD when we pull it out. To remove the mainboard we need to take the battery out.The LCD just 2mm thick not even a frame on it, and the battery is glued onto the LCD with a strong glue. That's why when you drop your phone your lcd breaks, not because is a piece of glass rather because the battery breaks it. Consider this i just want to help, not scare. Top of that you not supposed to know any of this info. I only know because i been trained to do it, by a sony tech, as i working in an official service provider for EE.
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No I understand but there changeable without breaking a piece inside I did it plus there's a thread I just popped out my SIM one now because I have a full set,I'm gonna get my girl to record as I do the micro sd one and post it on here you can change them without taking apart the phone or breaking anything or leaving a piece behind I'm not the only one who's done it,There's other people on here also I'm sure if a piece does break then I'm screwed but I've been careful and had no problems
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Ok. No worries than. Good luck. Personally I using an MW600 bt and a DK26 charging dock to free of this problems. And opening the ports only when needed. The SIM tray is a mess, too difficult for Sony to use a trayless design. Bah.
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Ok. No worries than. Good luck. Personally I using an MW600 bt and a DK26 charging dock to free of this problems. And opening the ports only when needed. The SIM tray is a mess, too difficult for Sony to use a trayless design. Bah.
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Totally agreed and the best way is to use dock and Bluetooth earphones I'm gonna start doing that now that my flaps are new,and thanks for the advice I know you were trying to help,I was just saying it's possible without disassembly if lucky now if a piece breaks I'm screwed again thanks
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Thank you for the info, guys.
I eventually found new flaps on rounded.com and I'm gonna order two today.
Until they arrive, I'll try to learn how to replace them myself...
Here, it can be useful to someone:
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-micro-usb-cover-black.html
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-headphone-cover-black.html
See you on the road
paulinodf said:
Thank you for the info, guys.
I eventually found new flaps on rounded.com and I'm gonna order two today.
Until they arrive, I'll try to learn how to replace them myself...
Here, it can be useful to someone:
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-micro-usb-cover-black.html
http://rounded.com/sony-xperia-z-l36h-headphone-cover-black.html
See you on the road
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Just take your time you'll be fine, most important to get full white strap out,also I realize u only needed those two but the link on the first page sells all four for like $11
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Guess this isn't covered by the warranty? How do I put it back? Glue?
I have the same problem but near the earphones jack... Going to experiment with super glue just to get the rubber back in place... No sony warranty doesn't cover it plus they'll charge you for the cover and labor
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How could they not cover it??
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I have the same problem but near the earphones jack... Going to experiment with super glue just to get the rubber back in place... No sony warranty doesn't cover it plus they'll charge you for the cover and labor
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How could u say that it diesnt comes under warranty?? Any deffect if found they should service it or replace it without any charges...i too have this prblm and i dont even have the rubber piece..i m gonna go today to the service centre.
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How could they not cover it??
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How could u say that it diesnt comes under warranty?? Any deffect if found they should service it or replace it without any charges...i too have this prblm and i dont even have the rubber piece..i m gonna go today to the service centre.
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That's the problem right there. The rubber piece has been torn off due to excessive use. i just noticed a piece of rubber is missing on my phone too and Sony isn't going to cover physical damage cause by negligence of the owner. In short, we're to blame for not taking adequate care of the flaps. Anyway, good luck and do tell me if they get it fixed for you. Sony India refused.
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That's the problem right there. The rubber piece has been torn off due to excessive use. i just noticed a piece of rubber is missing on my phone too and Sony isn't going to cover physical damage cause by negligence of the owner. In short, we're to blame for not taking adequate care of the flaps. Anyway, good luck and do tell me if they get it fixed for you. Sony India refused.
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Also i am from india..hearing u i think they will not replace it for me too :'( :'( .do u know how much they will charge for replacing it? Becoz i dnt have the rubber piece to stick it back
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Ame123 said:
Also i am from india..hearing u i think they will not replace it for me too :'( :'( .do u know how much they will charge for replacing it? Becoz i dnt have the rubber piece to stick it back
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Neither do i. BTW your phone isn't water resistant anymore until you get that fixed. I had a little water seep through that's when i found out that the rubber is coming of.
Edit: Just to clarify things, i asked if mine would be taken under warranty and they said no. I didn't ask how much it would cost. There's a chance that they might just replace the rubber instead of the entire flap, hopefully, so try your luck.
Why not source your own from somewhere like here:
http://rounded.com/xperia-z-l36h/?sl=EN#ty;pagination_contents;/xperia-z-l36h/page-2/?sl=EN
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Ereckson said:
I have the same problem but near the earphones jack... Going to experiment with super glue just to get the rubber back in place... No sony warranty doesn't cover it plus they'll charge you for the cover and labor
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I called sony today and the idiot guy said me that we cannot replace the part as it is a waterproof phone..so what should i do now?? :''(
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philje123 said:
Why not source your own from somewhere like here:
http://rounded.com/xperia-z-l36h/?sl=EN#ty;pagination_contents;/xperia-z-l36h/page-2/?sl=EN
Phil
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That's great, but how are we supposed to replace the flap when we can get the dam thing to open..
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That's great, but how are we supposed to replace the flap when we can get the dam thing to open..
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I am just crying here :'( i really pissed of..how can they say that they cannot replace that :'( any help plzzz
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I spoke to Sony UK around a month ago as my headphone flap is missing its rubber seal. No luck, these are apparently 'sacrificial' and aren't covered under warranty for ANY defect or damage in normal use.
Sucks to be us right now.
Kirkymole said:
I spoke to Sony UK around a month ago as my headphone flap is missing its rubber seal. No luck, these are apparently 'sacrificial' and aren't covered under warranty for ANY defect or damage in normal use.
Sucks to be us right now.
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Absolutely...we finally we have a unwaterproofed phone which looks ugly without the rubber seal on the flap and a old hardware as well..:''(
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Hello everybody,
i have a question also to all rubber seals .Xperia Z is now like 6 month old how is the qualtiy and the snapping until now. Does it become a bad snapping feeling?
The reason why iam asking is that i want to buy maybe the Xperia Z Ultra and want to be sure that the qualtiy of the rubber seal is good.
Any luck getting it fixed guys
Mine just got torn of overnight.....i left my phone beside my bed charging it next thing you know i just cant seem to get it to lock in place then i saw the rubber piece got removed(the phone is just 1 month old)....luckily i found it and tried gluing it back but the piece got torn of so a bit of bad luck there.Any chnace the service centere could fix it i dont mind paying though (xperia z ultra)
the flap pulls right out. so just buy a new one online and pull the old one out
done, much better than spending a good chunk at a service center. and it's not like they could tell you did it so you'll still have warranty
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Guess this isn't covered by the warranty? How do I put it back? Glue?
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hey my friend also have this problem before he used his mobile only 4 month then he change port charging cover from warrenty free of charge they just change rubber :_
Kirkymole said:
I spoke to Sony UK around a month ago as my headphone flap is missing its rubber seal. No luck, these are apparently 'sacrificial' and aren't covered under warranty for ANY defect or damage in normal use.
Sucks to be us right now.
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Sacrificial? I guess that means we can easily source a replacement seal.
WTF...
How hard is it to replace the flaps? And anyone have a source? My problem one is the charging one, as obviously that gets opened and bloody closed daily.
The flaps are really a poor design. My only physical complaint on the phone.
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the flap pulls right out. so just buy a new one online and pull the old one out
done, much better than spending a good chunk at a service center. and it's not like they could tell you did it so you'll still have warranty
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They pull out? Have you done this, or read of it being done this way? Everything I keep seeing indicates the rear needs removal for it.
Looking at the pics I've seen though, they should be able to be installed with them in place, but it'd be touch and go pulling it out without snapping it. If you had a really fine micro "slim-jim" type tool you might be able to push it down the hole and trip any clasp.
I also guess even if it did break, you could install the replacement without the thether... It probably would work better without, you'd just have to not lose them... I mean having them flapping when open is irritating, and probably the reason the rubber seals are damaged. In fact, looking at my phone now while it is charging, I can see that the rubber seal when open is physically touching the USB cable. Bad bad design...
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Sacrificial? I guess that means we can easily source a replacement seal.
WTF...
How hard is it to replace the flaps? And anyone have a source? My problem one is the charging one, as obviously that gets opened and bloody closed daily.
The flaps are really a poor design. My only physical complaint on the phone.
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They pull out? Have you done this, or read of it being done this way? Everything I keep seeing indicates the rear needs removal for it.
Looking at the pics I've seen though, they should be able to be installed with them in place, but it'd be touch and go pulling it out without snapping it. If you had a really fine micro "slim-jim" type tool you might be able to push it down the hole and trip any clasp.
I also guess even if it did break, you could install the replacement without the thether... It probably would work better without, you'd just have to not lose them... I mean having them flapping when open is irritating, and probably the reason the rubber seals are damaged. In fact, looking at my phone now while it is charging, I can see that the rubber seal when open is physically touching the USB cable. Bad bad design...
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the flaps are easy to replace. i did it.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
the flaps are easy to replace. i did it.
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Care to share how?
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Care to share how?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48941112
i described it there, hope it helps.
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I have managed to somehow dent the micro sim cap/door, does the device need dis-assembly to replace?
I have found a place that stocks genuine parts, however after contacting Sony service center they want me to send the device away interstate, which seems ridiculous. Sony stated though "in order to keep waterproof integrity it is necessary to get the job done by technician".
Any thoughts or tips on replacing the door, is it just a matter of squeezing the rubbery ball through a slot(no pun intended)or is it more involved?
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I wouldn't take a risk but that's just me. Especially if you're gonna be utilizing the waterproof part of the phone =)
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I know, however, I dont want to send it away, the last time I sent away brand new device it returned to me with scratches and was obviously mishandled . We have quite a few Sony stores but none will deal directly with repairs, perhaps I have to make warranty claim. I have babied this device I dont even use it with sim card yet, it is my mp3 player only at night after work.
I can just see them charging me heaps for doing f-all more than swapping out a simple part. Surely this can be done without dis-assembly?
I dropped mine a couple of weeks ago, it landed on the micro sim flap as well and the dent was pretty bad.
It was, if I remember correctly, the xperia z ports could be pulled out and the replacement pushed back in. I've not see a breakdown of the z1 yet so I may be totally wrong this time around.
no the Z1 needsw to be pulled apart, I work at a mobile shop, the Xperias Z1 is a hell mission to pull apart, the flaps on the Z1, will break if you put them in without opening it
Ps:// http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/15/xperia-z1-disassembly-guide/
I just removed and replaced the door without disassembley it comes out very easily and goes back in very easily, problem solved. Save me $100 since shipping device is $20 and door replacement by tech is $80, what a rip off!
Disclaimer: Try at your own risk, however, I can say nearly 100% confidence that you wont have any problems.
Where abouts did you get the sim port door from please?
Just in stock http://www.witrigs.com/oem-usb-data...rs-replacement-parts-for-sony-xperia-z1-black
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To be honest my cover for the usb broke off It would fit firm when I would place it back I still used it under water my problem was it wasn't attached and in between charging I had to put the flap in my pocket and yes lost it lol
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Where abouts did you get the sim port door from please?
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Theres a few places, here and here also.
I agree with letting the sony technicians handle it... Sure you could just easily swap the caps but the official technicians should pressure test it first for waterproofness before sending it back to you...
My daughter pulled on e of mine off the other day, it just pops back in very easily and the way it goes in means there is no need for a pressure test. The bit that keeps it attached to the device has nothing to do with the waterproofing.
I was not talking about that part of the cover... I was talking about the cover itself if it perfectly fits on the ports or if it has any dents or gaps that would compromise the waterproofness of the phone even 1/4 millimeter gap from that would really mess up your phone
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My daughter pulled on e of mine off the other day, it just pops back in very easily and the way it goes in means there is no need for a pressure test. The bit that keeps it attached to the device has nothing to do with the waterproofing.
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You say it pops in easily, is it that simple Greg. Not ordered mine yet. In hospital for a few days, probably do it in next day or two.
With the ends of the port that slot into the z1, has a triangle shapped lip, is it tough, malleable and pushes in easily?
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I was not talking about that part of the cover... I was talking about the cover itself if it perfectly fits on the ports or if it has any dents or gaps that would compromise the waterproofness of the phone even 1/4 millimeter gap from that would really mess up your phone
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true, but don't we take those parts off every day when plugging in the charger/removing SD card etc, and don't we put them back fine ourselves....
My USB cover isn't sitting flush anymore, does anyone know of a UK supplier for a replacement flap? Anyone else who's flaps are no longer flush?!!
Cheers
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I agree with letting the sony technicians handle it... Sure you could just easily swap the caps but the official technicians should pressure test it first for waterproofness before sending it back to you...
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Please! send device away for way over $100(for a $2 part!) where it will be most likely be sent back with scratches, mishandled by technicians, couriers and/or postal services at no less than a large shipping and handling premium (if you dont want to risk damage, ie insurances etc)
So you're looking at around $40 insured postage, $80 for repair plus another $40 return insured postage. I doubt theres any tests in terms of water, nitro or any other! There is no pressure test nor is there any evacuation test, its impossible!
The housing and port door components are mass produced by automated computer based programs that dont leave any room for error. There is certainly no testing in terms of pressure on the mass produced market devices, only the initial prototypes are tested and perfected then sent to production.
No issues with my replacement parts, Ive showered and washed down the device many times.
Glad that it's the case then! My only worries is if we buy it from 3rd party stores it isn't OEM(as I'm pretty sure sony wouldn't sell any parts of it's phone for retail) and it's not the same machine used by sony and there could be miscalculations or errors
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Please! send device away for way over $100(for a $2 part!) where it will be most likely be sent back with scratches, mishandled by technicians, couriers and/or postal services at no less than a large shipping and handling premium (if you dont want to risk damage, ie insurances etc)
So you're looking at around $40 insured postage, $80 for repair plus another $40 return insured postage. I doubt theres any tests in terms of water, nitro or any other! There is no pressure test nor is there any evacuation test, its impossible!
The housing and port door components are mass produced by automated computer based programs that dont leave any room for error. There is certainly no testing in terms of pressure on the mass produced market devices, only the initial prototypes are tested and perfected then sent to production.
No issues with my replacement parts, Ive showered and washed down the device many times.
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Have you removed back cover, and still maintained the water proof ability?
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Have you removed back cover, and still maintained the water proof ability?
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I will not do that! I saw screen light when I pull out my sd and usb cover caps and I am sure if the doors are open you will damage you phone. Fore sure the caps doors make the phone waterproof.
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Have you removed back cover, and still maintained the water proof ability?
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Absolutely no need to remove the back housing, I can confirm the doors/caps pop out so easily and go back in just as easily with no issues, I have taken mine under water at least 20 times since replacing microSIM door. I purchased my replacement from Part4repair.com and it looks and functions just as the original did. The parts are tested prior to shipping. If you waste $100+ for a simple door/cap replacement then you're being robbed blind!
Since my frame is bent and my back glass is broken I really have to replace them as the dust got between back glass and the camera rendering camera with flash useless.
I'm thinking about replacing it myself, but I'm worried if it's still going to be waterproof after I replace it.
Have any of you guys replaced the back glass by yourself? How's the waterproofness after you did that?
Water resistence will be gone for sure and back glass wont stick for long.time to time you have to push it back.
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I'm talking about replacing it. Both bent frame and back glass. Have you done this?
No, they will keep the water-proof capablility of the phone. First they will replace the back, remove all the old glue and rubber gasket then replace all with new glue, etc...then use high compression machine press the back cover tight to the glue. Atleast that is the process of replace back cover in my local Sony center, not sure it's applied to all....And after repair they will allow you to put the phone into water to test...
FFS
My adhesive on the back just completely stopped holding the back glass. I can take it out by shaking the device a bit or even by picking it up. I'll be sending it for the repairs...
No more Z1 development, really.
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FFS
My adhesive on the back just completely stopped holding the back glass. I can take it out by shaking the device a bit or even by picking it up. I'll be sending it for the repairs...
No more Z1 development, really.
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That suck! Hope you got the phone without any problems later on...
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That suck! Hope you got the phone without any problems later on...
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Yeah. The worst thing is that I have to ship the phone on my own. I mean wrapping, talking with DHL and stuff like that to get it to authorised sony service ... -_-
Good thing is that although I'll pay a lot for the replacement of the frame and the back it will be waterproof again.
I'll send it in this weekend or at the begging of the next week.
If anyone would be interested in the state of my Z1 then here's what's wrong with it:
USB flap fell off again.
Back glass is broken
Main frame is bent
Middle frame is cracked
To fix it I'd have to buy:
Glue for middle frame, main frame
Back glass
USB flap
Middle frame
I'll propably fix it myself becaus the cost of doing this in the service would be propably as high as a new Z1. Too bad I'm not rich so I can't buy those parts yet.
If anyone is interested then I finally made pictures of my phone. At least the screen and the electronic hardware is allright.
http://imgur.com/a/MRcra?#0
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If anyone is interested then I finally made pictures of my phone. At least the screen and the electronic hardware is allright.
http://imgur.com/a/MRcra?#0
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hope you can get it fixed soon miss your dev work
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hope you can get it fixed soon miss your dev work
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Hopefully I will, but I'll have to wait untill all of the parts that I need get available on witrigs.com so I could order OEM parts for my device.
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Hopefully I will, but I'll have to wait untill all of the parts that I need get available on witrigs.com so I could order OEM parts for my device.
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Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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I only had Xperia Play apart from Z1, flashed xperia S just few days ago, lol ^^
I didn't test it myself, but if you buy a genuine back glass assembly (that includes glue, you can buy this from, for example www.witrigs.com) and replace it properly, wait a week or so for the glue to align and stick properly it should still be waterproof. I did replace almost every part of my Z1, that is camera, back microphone, back glass - 2 times, minijack with proximity sensor, battery, main frame with all the buttons and flaps, speaker mesh and propably something else I don't really remember anymore. It doesn't matter anyway, what matters here is that if you replace middle frame - take close attention to the speaker mesh hole - the one from a phone has some sort of a gasket there, whereas the replacement one - doesn't and you can't really buy it separately. I bought the middle frame assembly from witrigs and it was also missing that gasket. Also, speaker mesh from witrigs is different from the one that was in the phone. These parts render my phone not waterproof anymore and I don't think you can buy replacements for it that would still make the phone waterproof, even if replaced with surgically perfect precision.
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Back glass assembly (complete genuine replacement part with glue, nfc, camera etc. already on it) replacement, if done properly, may not cause your phone to lose it's waterproofness. At least from my experience.
Replacing main frame and speaker mesh, even new genuine will void it. Not because there were some mistakes in replacing them, they simply don't have all of the elements that the parts originally shipped with a new phone have. Replacing them will definitely remove its waterproofness. (with all parts from witrigs.com, that is very trusted to ship genuine, new replacement parts.
Just posting this so people googling around could find the answer.
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AnrgKrshn said:
Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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Try out my new kernel if you want Make sure to read entire first post before flashing if you are still using XZDR recovery though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development/stockbased-ok-kernel-v4-rock-solid-30-t3281806
olokos said:
I only had Xperia Play apart from Z1, flashed xperia S just few days ago, lol ^^
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I swear I saw you on the XS Carbon Rom forums or something xD I'll give the kernel a shot! Was planning on flashing RR today after a long time on stock, but I guess that can wait
Had the phone for nearly two weeks.. Noticed the flap seems to open on its own this in turn taking away the "waterproof" abilities of the device.
Spoke to O2 UK and literally straight away the guy said they will be exchanging it.
I now have a courier coming tomorrow to swap the phones out so hopefully I don't get this issue again..
Can't fault the service from O2 here though they don't mess about!
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That's disappointing...
I'm planning on getting the Z3 Compact through a friend going to America which frankly means that if I have any problems like these I won't be able to use the warranty and replace the device. Hopefully I won't have any problems.
One thing that can prevent problems with the USB flap is simply not using it, but rather charging via the magnetic port with a dock/cable/adapter.
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That's disappointing...
I'm planning on getting the Z3 Compact through a friend going to America which frankly means that if I have any problems like these I won't be able to use the warranty and replace the device. Hopefully I won't have any problems.
One thing that can prevent problems with the USB flap is simply not using it, but rather charging via the magnetic port with a dock/cable/adapter.
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Shouldn't have to avoid using any part of the phone.. If it's not going to work properly I don't want it, no matter what it is I have bought..
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Shouldn't have to avoid using any part of the phone.. If it's not going to work properly I don't want it, no matter what it is I have bought..
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Yes that's fair enough. It's a shame if the USB flap really does have design issues or maybe it's just a rarer issue that unfortunately happened to you.
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Yes that's fair enough. It's a shame if the USB flap really does have design issues or maybe it's just a rarer issue that unfortunately happened to you.
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Apparently it's not so rare, alot of people would seem to getting similar issues if you look on the Sony mobile forums..
I would advise everyone to check their units and make sure both flaps close properly..
If not your phone will not be waterproof and hence may die if you take it for a swim like they do on the adverts...
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At the end of the day, the flaps are made of plastic which can and will bend if you don't take care when removing or make sure its not getting caught in anything while its off.
I'm not saying this is the case with everyone, but likely for most...
I'm in exactly the same boat. Bought the black version from Clove, arrived just under 2 weeks ago. For the last few days, I noticed the flap was loose when taking it out of my pocket, thought it was becoming loose while walking around. Closed the flap and left it on the table, few minutes later, it was loose again, so definitely a hardware problem. Gave the flap a clear with an earbud but no cigar. Nano SIM cover sits nice and tight
Really disappointed as I really like the phone and apart from this issue, it lives up to my expectations for both the hardware and software. Gonna be a pain going back to my Nexus 4 which I wiped clean in the expectation I'd be selling it soon >.<
Is it a case of replacing the flap or is there a bigger problem? Anyone had any experience with Clove returns? Will they ship out a new one before I return the faulty one - would make life easier as I can use the Sony PC Companion app to transfer all my stuff to the new one straight away
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I'm in exactly the same boat. Bought the black version from Clove, arrived just under 2 weeks ago. For the last few days, I noticed the flap was loose when taking it out of my pocket, thought it was becoming loose while walking around. Closed the flap and left it on the table, few minutes later, it was loose again, so definitely a hardware problem. Gave the flap a clear with an earbud but no cigar. Nano SIM cover sits nice and tight
Really disappointed as I really like the phone and apart from this issue, it lives up to my expectations for both the hardware and software. Gonna be a pain going back to my Nexus 4 which I wiped clean in the expectation I'd be selling it soon >.<
Is it a case of replacing the flap or is there a bigger problem? Anyone had any experience with Clove returns? Will they ship out a new one before I return the faulty one - would make life easier as I can use the Sony PC Companion app to transfer all my stuff to the new one straight away
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Its obviously a known issue or they wouldn't exchange it so fast in my case..
As soon as I told them the issue, the first response was "you will have it exchanged on your doorstep Monday morning"
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Vodafone Germany exchanged mine within a week (door to door) because of that problem.
Seems to be at least a whole production batch with bad tolerance...
Well got my replacement today and the flap on this unit closes with a "click"
So, definitely check your device does this or else it is not waterproof and needs replacing like the one I had before..
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Clove have agreed to do an exchange, apparently they've had others return it for the same problem. Hoping the next one is fine
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Clove have agreed to do an exchange, apparently they've had others return it for the same problem. Hoping the next one is fine
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How long ago did you buy it?
OT: I really don't understand why Sony isn't providing magnetic cable in their original packages. My guess is that there will be a lot of people who will not be familiar with magnetic charging option and damage their flops during opening for charging.
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OT: I really don't understand why Sony isn't providing magnetic cable in their original packages. My guess is that there will be a lot of people who will not be familiar with magnetic charging option and damage their flops during opening for charging.
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There are no sony produced cables, only magnetic charging docks.. All the cables are third party only
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How did the Z1/Z2 waterproof covers hold up over time? I would assume anything made of rubbery plastic is gonna stretch and deform slightly over time with repeated opening/closing and exposure to the elements, so I'm curious how long these phones actually stay waterproof.
Just to join the club, have the same issue with my z3c on usb port side, sim card cover is closed as it should be. I already changed my phone once because of display issue and on that one didn't noticed that covers problem. So now I have another irritating issue. Just to inform those who claim that it is bad handling cause, I don't even use this cover cause from the fisrst day of use i had the magnetic charger just because of that I don't have to open this cover and risk to damage it.
So now I have damaged covere which was opened only once, when I inserted my sd card .
New replacement flaps on eBay selling for £5
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Have you tried it?
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I got my Z3c from Mediamarkt and found out the flap of the SIM-card wasn't closing either. If you would press it, it would stay in place for a small minute and hops open. I decided to return it and ask for a new one, because I bought the phone because of the waterproofing. I picked up a new one in the store and luckily the flaps were OK. Sony could easily fix this problem by changing the flaps, the rubber seems a tiny bit too thick.
Can I remove the rubber from the USB flap and it will still close properly?
I bought the LCD-midframe assembly and the back cover from a seemingly large supplier on eBay. After a lot of waiting my package finally arrived, only to find that the back cover has a smudged font, different construction and the logo covered with tape (which to me has been a telltale sign of a fake item if the photos don't show the OEM logo), the glass on both the screen and cover have a different 'give'. However now I'm not entirely sure it isn't fake, maybe there's some variation depending on manufacturing date or something else along those lines.
I hope someone with more experience can help me determine if I got genuine parts.
Thanks.
P.S. On the left of the attached photos is the part I want to replace from my phone, on the right the one I bought.
I've never seen this, I guess if the parts work, the only thing missing is the Sony logo.
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The logo is there, behind some tape, but I've seen a lot of fake items that do that, usually for customs reasons. I don't know what to think though. The seller insists it's OEM. I did some research and found that some companies just don't supply repair parts, so companies like this one have to source the correct 'sub-parts' and assemble them or maybe even manufacture their own pieces if they are impossible to get, and if, for example, the LCD/Digitizer is original, they label the whole assembly as original.
Hi, hard to say from pictures. In my firm we are ordering both type of parts original and spare. Until this day I never saw original part with covered Sony logo. All parts with covered logo are spare but to
soothe You I can tell that spare parts for Sony are good quality (most of time) however if it's not original watch for back cover it's more fragile than original. Every time I'm disassembling Z3c I never wasting time to heat up but when spare back cover wont be heat up to peel it of it breaks just after You bend it.
Anyway most of my client don't see any difference between spare and original Sony parts so it's not so bad. Of course every time I'm giving them choice but most of the time people prefers cheaper one.
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Hi, hard to say from pictures. In my firm we are ordering both type of parts original and spare. Until this day I never saw original part with covered Sony logo. All parts with covered logo are spare but to
soothe You I can tell that spare parts for Sony are good quality (most of time) however if it's not original watch for back cover it's more fragile than original. Every time I'm disassembling Z3c I never wasting time to heat up but when spare back cover wont be heat up to peel it of it breaks just after You bend it.
Anyway most of my client don't see any difference between spare and original Sony parts so it's not so bad. Of course every time I'm giving them choice but most of the time people prefers cheaper one.
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Yeah I suspected that. I ended up installing it as I needed my phone up and running and wasn't as sure that the part wasn't original after reading some articles on the Internet.
Let me tell you, it was a pain in the ass, it didn't come with the button gaskets, magnetic port, headphone jack or speakers. To make matters worse when I was trying to pry those parts from my original phone I broke both speakers, the flex to the light sensor and the magnetic port. Man that **** is welded tight!
Anyway, I think I now have another point to my favor; the glue of the screen is poor, so much that after installing the "rest“ of the phone it now has a slit on the side of the usb port where light escapes, not to mention that the screen itself bleeds from all the sides outward more than an extra in a Tarantino movie, you can even see a faint glow around the buttons!
I think I'll follow through the eBay case I opened. I hope I get (at least some of) my money back so I can buy a proper replacement.
What do you guys think?
Man, none of this would've happened if Sony would've repaired my phone... ****ing dumb ass policy of not repairing imported devices, even for a fee.
I love this device, but this kind of crap makes me want to go back to Samsung.
If it doesn't has parts You mentioned it's not original part. Original part MUST have both speakers, magnetic port, headphone port and light sensor and doesn't have both caps for sd and sim card and plastic cover around magnetic port.
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And yes, Samsung have better service but as far as I know outside Europe it's so good as in Europe.
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I also came from Samsung to Sony but for now I'm pleased and I hope it stays like this.
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Anyway, I think I now have another point to my favor; the glue of the screen is poor, so much that after installing the "rest“ of the phone it now has a slit on the side of the usb port where light escapes, not to mention that the screen itself bleeds from all the sides outward more than an extra in a Tarantino movie, you can even see a faint glow around the buttons!
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I have been reading about replacement parts and z3c disassembling and putting it back together as I have a problem with screen peeling off on the left side. It did not raise to the point where light escapes, but it is noticeable upon pressing it. I think your parts are ok, but it's hard to tell it based on these pictures, however, on almost all replacement parts the glue for the screen is very weak, so the usual suggestion is to use stronger one, like buying double sided 3m tape and cutting it to the exact shape, or using "Sugru". I have read somewhere here on xda that people have successfully glued screen to the frame without any lifting and peeling off using aftermarket double sided tapes.
Good luck anyway!
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I have been reading about replacement parts and z3c disassembling and putting it back together as I have a problem with screen peeling off on the left side. It did not raise to the point where light escapes, but it is noticeable upon pressing it. I think your parts are ok, but it's hard to tell it based on these pictures, however, on almost all replacement parts the glue for the screen is very weak, so the usual suggestion is to use stronger one, like buying double sided 3m tape and cutting it to the exact shape, or using "Sugru". I have read somewhere here on xda that people have successfully glued screen to the frame without any lifting and peeling off using aftermarket double sided tapes.
Good luck anyway!
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I have a spare screen adhesive, I'll think about reapplying it once I have the rest of the parts (or a new screen assembly) in my hands. However they are proving quite hard to find (at least for a fair price), especially the magnetic port.
And sorry about the pictures, surely you guessed that they are taken with an older phone.
You can also buy ready glued tapes with all cutouts like this one http://magboss-economy.pl/pl/p/Tasma-montazowa-klej-Sony-Xperia-Z3-compact-przod/23942. Of course it's Polish store but I think You can find it also on eBay.
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You can also buy ready glued tapes with all cutouts like this one http://magboss-economy.pl/pl/p/Tasma-montazowa-klej-Sony-Xperia-Z3-compact-przod/23942. Of course it's Polish store but I think You can find it also on eBay.
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Yeah, I have a spare one just like that. Thanks.
i think a black backcover is no problem. but if you need a red/orange one,
the only one that has the same color is the original one (2nd picture, left one, check the camera cut out)
the fake orange backcover is more red.
Ok, so I got refunded by eBay, which fortunately makes the whole process easier. Now I'm looking for a respectable place to buy these parts. I looked into replacebase.co.uk and witrigs.com
ReplaceBase has stock, but the parts look exactly the same as the one I've got, and it doesn't mention that the parts are original.
Witrigs is out of stock, but the LCD assembly has the missing parts (speakers, light sensor, etc.) and it says it's OEM, however, their photos lack the Sony logo and it's making me nervous.
Is there any other place you guys would recommend? Have you bought from Witrigs?
P.S. I guess if reviving this thread doesn't get me enough responses I'll start a new one.
I have only 2 stores with 100% original parts but both are in Poland and it would be around 200$ for both parts with shipping so price would not satisfy You.
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I have only 2 stores with 100% original parts but both are in Poland and it would be around 200$ for both parts with shipping so price would not satisfy You.
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Yikes, that is certainly expensive. Although I may see it as a last resort.
125$ for front, 25$ back and almost 50$ for shipping. Maybe there is some cheaper forms of shipping but I would need to read about safety and customs charges.
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I just looked at aBay to compare prices and mine is not so expensive cause it's hard to find original front only under 170$ even without shipping.
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Under 100$ I can see only spare (spare LCD glued to original frame without speakers etc.) and used ones.
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The logo is there, behind some tape, but I've seen a lot of fake items that do that, usually for customs reasons. I don't know what to think though. The seller insists it's OEM. I did some research and found that some companies just don't supply repair parts, so companies like this one have to source the correct 'sub-parts' and assemble them or maybe even manufacture their own pieces if they are impossible to get, and if, for example, the LCD/Digitizer is original, they label the whole assembly as original.
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Then you might as well use it right?
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Then you might as well use it right?
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Well it's constructed kinda badly, and it's not what I paid for.