Since my frame is bent and my back glass is broken I really have to replace them as the dust got between back glass and the camera rendering camera with flash useless.
I'm thinking about replacing it myself, but I'm worried if it's still going to be waterproof after I replace it.
Have any of you guys replaced the back glass by yourself? How's the waterproofness after you did that?
Water resistence will be gone for sure and back glass wont stick for long.time to time you have to push it back.
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I'm talking about replacing it. Both bent frame and back glass. Have you done this?
No, they will keep the water-proof capablility of the phone. First they will replace the back, remove all the old glue and rubber gasket then replace all with new glue, etc...then use high compression machine press the back cover tight to the glue. Atleast that is the process of replace back cover in my local Sony center, not sure it's applied to all....And after repair they will allow you to put the phone into water to test...
FFS
My adhesive on the back just completely stopped holding the back glass. I can take it out by shaking the device a bit or even by picking it up. I'll be sending it for the repairs...
No more Z1 development, really.
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FFS
My adhesive on the back just completely stopped holding the back glass. I can take it out by shaking the device a bit or even by picking it up. I'll be sending it for the repairs...
No more Z1 development, really.
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That suck! Hope you got the phone without any problems later on...
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That suck! Hope you got the phone without any problems later on...
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Yeah. The worst thing is that I have to ship the phone on my own. I mean wrapping, talking with DHL and stuff like that to get it to authorised sony service ... -_-
Good thing is that although I'll pay a lot for the replacement of the frame and the back it will be waterproof again.
I'll send it in this weekend or at the begging of the next week.
If anyone would be interested in the state of my Z1 then here's what's wrong with it:
USB flap fell off again.
Back glass is broken
Main frame is bent
Middle frame is cracked
To fix it I'd have to buy:
Glue for middle frame, main frame
Back glass
USB flap
Middle frame
I'll propably fix it myself becaus the cost of doing this in the service would be propably as high as a new Z1. Too bad I'm not rich so I can't buy those parts yet.
If anyone is interested then I finally made pictures of my phone. At least the screen and the electronic hardware is allright.
http://imgur.com/a/MRcra?#0
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If anyone is interested then I finally made pictures of my phone. At least the screen and the electronic hardware is allright.
http://imgur.com/a/MRcra?#0
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hope you can get it fixed soon miss your dev work
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hope you can get it fixed soon miss your dev work
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Hopefully I will, but I'll have to wait untill all of the parts that I need get available on witrigs.com so I could order OEM parts for my device.
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Hopefully I will, but I'll have to wait untill all of the parts that I need get available on witrigs.com so I could order OEM parts for my device.
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Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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I only had Xperia Play apart from Z1, flashed xperia S just few days ago, lol ^^
I didn't test it myself, but if you buy a genuine back glass assembly (that includes glue, you can buy this from, for example www.witrigs.com) and replace it properly, wait a week or so for the glue to align and stick properly it should still be waterproof. I did replace almost every part of my Z1, that is camera, back microphone, back glass - 2 times, minijack with proximity sensor, battery, main frame with all the buttons and flaps, speaker mesh and propably something else I don't really remember anymore. It doesn't matter anyway, what matters here is that if you replace middle frame - take close attention to the speaker mesh hole - the one from a phone has some sort of a gasket there, whereas the replacement one - doesn't and you can't really buy it separately. I bought the middle frame assembly from witrigs and it was also missing that gasket. Also, speaker mesh from witrigs is different from the one that was in the phone. These parts render my phone not waterproof anymore and I don't think you can buy replacements for it that would still make the phone waterproof, even if replaced with surgically perfect precision.
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Back glass assembly (complete genuine replacement part with glue, nfc, camera etc. already on it) replacement, if done properly, may not cause your phone to lose it's waterproofness. At least from my experience.
Replacing main frame and speaker mesh, even new genuine will void it. Not because there were some mistakes in replacing them, they simply don't have all of the elements that the parts originally shipped with a new phone have. Replacing them will definitely remove its waterproofness. (with all parts from witrigs.com, that is very trusted to ship genuine, new replacement parts.
Just posting this so people googling around could find the answer.
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AnrgKrshn said:
Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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Try out my new kernel if you want Make sure to read entire first post before flashing if you are still using XZDR recovery though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development/stockbased-ok-kernel-v4-rock-solid-30-t3281806
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I only had Xperia Play apart from Z1, flashed xperia S just few days ago, lol ^^
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I swear I saw you on the XS Carbon Rom forums or something xD I'll give the kernel a shot! Was planning on flashing RR today after a long time on stock, but I guess that can wait
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Hi,
the touch screen of my Xperia V is broken and I'd like to replace it myself. It's not the first time for me that I repair a mobile device myself, but without a disassembly guide, it is difficult for me to identify the parts that are fixed by glue. I don't want to break anything that is still working.
I already found a russian video on YouTube, but it seems to me that the display is not taken apart from the other parts of the device.
Has anyone here done it before?
Thanks in advance!
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grisu59964 said:
Hi,
the touch screen of my Xperia V is broken and I'd like to replace it myself. It's not the first time for me that I repair a mobile device myself, but without a disassembly guide, it is difficult for me to identify the parts that are fixed by glue. I don't want to break anything that is still working.
I already found a russian video on YouTube but it seems to me that the display is not taken apart from the other parts of the device.
Has anyone here done it before?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi,
I've managed to remove the display. Mainly because it was really damaged ... heating the display and "bending" with a small tool.
It's really hard as the glue is quite strong. As my replacement screen is "on it's way" I'm not able to finalize the work.
I'm kind of stuck in the part when removing the "middle, plastic" part...
display is connected to body with really strong glue. Remember that it is impossible to remove old display without breaking it. Second thing is that with new display the phone most likely will not be waterproof
hakanW said:
Hi,
I've managed to remove the display. Mainly because it was really damaged ... heating the display and "bending" with a small tool.
It's really hard as the glue is quite strong. As my replacement screen is "on it's way" I'm not able to finalize the work.
I'm kind of stuck in the part when removing the "middle, plastic" part...
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Hi! I broke mine last night. How did your repair go when the part arrived? I also could only find the russian video without the screen being removed
How hot did you have to make the screen? I was thinking of using an iron with a cloth around it.
Hi Folks, I'm curious to hear how others are going - I managed to break my screen this last week, Hoping to replace it but so far taking out that glass seems to be a tricky thing - any suggestions? How did the iron and cloth go?
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Hi Folks, I'm curious to hear how others are going - I managed to break my screen this last week, Hoping to replace it but so far taking out that glass seems to be a tricky thing - any suggestions? How did the iron and cloth go?
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There's no way.... You need to buy a new housing with the LCD and touchscreen built in, and then move all your bits over. That's why the russian video of the guy removing everything doesn't remove the screen.
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There's no way.... You need to buy a new housing with the LCD and touchscreen built in, and then move all your bits over. That's why the russian video of the guy removing everything doesn't remove the screen.
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I just ordered this: http://www.parts4repair.com/complete-screen-assembly-for-sony-xperia-v-lt25i/ I will see how that goes. I got tired of using my old SG1 so it's time to fix the V...
Good luck. Careful with the tiny, white antennae cable running from the main board to the bottom. I twisted mine a little bit too much and the connector popped off. I had to go get a new one with much difficulty.
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Daryl_tt said:
Good luck. Careful with the tiny, white antennae cable running from the main board to the bottom. I twisted mine a little bit too much and the connector popped off. I had to go get a new one with much difficulty.
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I replaced the screen - had it working for two days and dropped it again - cracked screen, doesn't even light up.
I now have another replacement screen and a better case - at least now I'm getting quicker at taking the phone apart....
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I just ordered this: I will see how that goes. I got tired of using my old SG1 so it's time to fix the V...
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Hi this wont work, I went through the exact same issue, and its impossible to attach the new screen properly. your best bet is to try and find a second hand screen via ebay. it has to have the "housing part with it. otherwise you are wasting your time. it cost me so much to fix mine as I ordered two screens in the end I could have bought a new phone on special....
Try Ebay, and make sure you see the one with the screen and front housing on, I am unable to port the correct link on here as I haven't made 10 posts yet.
Search for the following on ebay : Genuine Sony Ericsson Xperia V LT25i front+digitizer touch screen+LCD display
This should let you find the correct screen
Look at the picture you will see the side housing for the front is also installed, the one you have ordered is the incorrect one as its only the LCD and the Digitzer, without the front housing that it gets "glued" onto. You can see the main difference where the earpiece is its shown as black, hence the mesh is there. that would be the correct one to order. Unless you have the means of getting yours glued back on the same way as the factory, I see you will struggle to get it done otherwise.
No one appears to have asked something this specific so here goes.
Conveniently I cracked the glass back of my Xperia Z1; and was just curious as to how a crack here will affect how waterproof it is.
I assume it's no good now, however I would like to confirm, particularly with anyone who has pulled one apart.
Will be calling Sony tomorrow to try sort this out too.
Cheers guys.
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No one appears to have asked something this specific so here goes.
Conveniently I cracked the glass back of my Xperia Z1; and was just curious as to how a crack here will affect how waterproof it is.
I assume it's no good now, however I would like to confirm, particularly with anyone who has pulled one apart.
Will be calling Sony tomorrow to try sort this out too.
Cheers guys.
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can you post a pic of crack ? How bad it is, need to see...How it cracked ? itself or by your fault ?
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can you post a pic of crack ? How bad it is, need to see...How it cracked ? itself or by your fault ?
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Sorry for the delay, had to find something to take a photo with, and a decent light source.
I bumped it off a table onto a wooden floor, don't mind forking out some cash for repairs though (just not sure if I can cope with not having my phone for a few days, sorta need it for work).
I have also emailed Sony, but I don't think I'll get a reply until tomorrow.
Attached is picture.
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Sorry for the delay, had to find something to take a photo with, and a decent light source.
I bumped it off a table onto a wooden floor, don't mind forking out some cash for repairs though (just not sure if I can cope with not having my phone for a few days, sorta need it for work).
I have also emailed Sony, but I don't think I'll get a reply until tomorrow.
Attached is picture.
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are you sure the glass panel is cracked ? or it is the crack on sheet above it ?
I didn't know the sheet above could crack the way this did, unless it scratched on something when it fell. I don't particularly want to take the ASF off as I've heard it voids warranty, however you have got me thinking, it does look like just the film on top.
It'd be nice if Sony sold replacement films.
I want to re-glue the loose bezel
Never mind i figured it out. A lot easier than TF700.
If anyone need help on How-To, post below or PM.
Cheers
AngryDinosaur said:
Never mind i figured it out. A lot easier than TF700.
If anyone need help on How-To, post below or PM.
Cheers
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I am, after receiving two tablets with the Problem of a lose bezel.
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I am, after receiving two tablets with the Problem of a lose bezel.
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Move slowly in every step
alright first, power off tablet
locate the two screws, one in each docking port ( be careful of the screws they are very tiny ) ONLY TWO SCREWS TOTAL
use the screwdriver to push towards the glass from inside the docking port. ( be careful, push slowly the glass is only held down with plastic clip )
Use prying tool to lift up the glass, focus on the area thats loose.
apply a thin layer of glue ( i used Krazy glue ) to the glass edge
push glass back in place and screw the screws back
I should have taken pictures
Kashban said:
I am, after receiving two tablets with the Problem of a lose bezel.
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did it work for you?
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did it work for you?
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Sorry, no, I had to send the third one back to because a loud crack is to be heard when softly whincing the tablet. I'm not going to repair faulty devices on my own as long as there is warranty.
Now I wait for the next charge of TF701 (newer than 11.2013) to see if Asus has addressed this problem.
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Sorry, no, I had to send the third one back to because a loud crack is to be heard when softly whincing the tablet. I'm not going to repair faulty devices on my own as long as there is warranty.
Now I wait for the next charge of TF701 (newer than 11.2013) to see if Asus has addressed this problem.
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Sorry to revive an old thread but I have no idea how to seperate the lcd from the digitizer. My problem is much worse than a lose bezel. The tablet fell and well..shattered. Digitizer is gone but LCD is ok. So I found on ebay a digitizer on it's own but before buying it, I want to first know how to seperate the LCD so I can reuse it.
Attached is the disassembled LCD + Digitizer.
I got to this part but can't figure out how to take out the LCD. I don't know if you can see, but there are like plastic clips all around the LCD. How do I take it out? I am not even sure if it is taped or not at this point. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Robert
There are a couple of good videos on YouTube about screen replacement on the TF300 and 700 - which are basically the same. One is by FixPhone Land, the other by AJ parts UK. The latter is the better one IMO.
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There are a couple of good videos on YouTube about screen replacement on the TF300 and 700 - which are basically the same. One is by FixPhone Land, the other by AJ parts UK. The latter is the better one IMO.
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I got to the part where I have the glass/digitizer/lcd bit in my hand but I will not go through the effort of seperating the glass from the digitizer. A new digitizer and glass will cost €105 with shipping, and I do not think it is worth repairing. I will assemble it and sell it as broken for parts.
Thanks anyway.
Hi everyone!
Today i visited the sony care point to discover that my phone isn't covered by warranty anymore, due to fact the internal LCD had a crack (despite never dropped in recent times).
Anyway, no worries... my warranty will end in a couple of days.
So... I want to attempt to fix it myself. I'm not experienced, but I work all day mounting PCs and servers, i think this will be a little diffent but not too hard, right?
Can anyone suggest me how and where to buy the entire frame and the LCD of the phone? (I want to keep it waterproof)
I saw many websites, but I don't trust most of them, so a good reccomendation is really useful here.
Also, what set of tools is reccomended to do everything? (Can i use my hair dryer to unglue the screen?)
Many thanks and sorry for my english being so bad, is not my native language.
I'm not sure how to replace the screen on the Z1, but I'd warn you against relying on its waterproofing after replacing the screen. Unless you can perfectly fit the rubber seal so there's literally no gap, the water will enter your phone.
It can be waterproof but don't buy cheap replacement as they are not always properly glued tohether, if at all. Buy original lcd+digitizer+frame assembly and precut glue frames like this. Hair dryer should be enough.
I cracked my screen yesterday
Today i get it from the technician (not original sony, in my country is inexistent). So far so good, only i found one problem (waterproof lost of course) the WIFI signal power is down by -20dB. So, now i have problems connecting to distants wifi.
EDIT: Now wifi working normal again, just another trip to the technician
Also, my phone is black front & withe back now.
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I cracked my screen yesterday
Today i get it from the tecnician (not original sony, in my country is inexistent). So far so good, only i found one problem (waterproof lost of course) the WIFI signal power is down by -20dB. So, now i have problems connecting to distants wifi.
Also, my phone is black front & withe back now.
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Black front and white back sounds pretty sweet. The black back cover attracts too many fingerprints imo
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Black front and white back sounds pretty sweet. The black back cover attracts too many fingerprints imo
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Some pics http://imgur.com/a/lAXC7
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Some pics http://imgur.com/a/lAXC7
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Nice pics, I'm gonna replace my back cover with the white one now.
I got my water damaged lcd replaced with a Chinese 1st copy and it's working great, however my phone lost its waterproofing as back cover is having problem to be glued properly again
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yea i replaced my screen and i think it messes with my sensors, im not entirely sure im still doing some analysis but like after some time (about 2 hours or so) my gyro, light and proximity sensors stop working until reboot.
one more thing. theres layers of stuff inside of the z1, its a bit complicated, even for me and i am a computer & phone tec. its all about the glue and remembering where they go. i didnt really do mine correctly so i lost my waterproofing. gluing it 100% like stock is very hard.
ans ps
DONT USE A HAIR DRYER!!!
it wont get hot enough to separate the screen (broke a galaxy s3 back in the day doing that) use a heat gun
I have read lots of threads and comments on the Internet regarding screen cracking on the z3c but most are dating back to early 2015.
As I am now considering buying a Z3C does anyone know if improvements have been made by Sony to address these issues for the 2016 models?
Thanks for any comments.
Nothing has changed. On the bright side, replacing said-glass is very cheap and easy to do. On the minus-side. Say bye-bye to any form of water-resistance. This long with the Z3C: I've grown to accept this phone won't be water-resistant unless I use a case because the seals and IP-68 rating is only for fresh-water and the rating completely depends on the ability of flap-seals and sealant of the back cover to to do its job. I hope I can convince you to disregard water-resistance factor in your purchase. Notably because Sony won't cover any repairs if the damage is a result of water-damage(personal experience). That way, you can swap back glass covers as you please. They go for like $2.
My z3c screens right top corner today unglued. Lasted for about 8 months since purchase, without case, without any water interference. Still under warranty, sending it for repair.
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Nothing has changed. On the bright side, replacing said-glass is very cheap and easy to do. On the minus-side. Say bye-bye to any form of water-resistance. This long with the Z3C: I've grown to accept this phone won't be water-resistant unless I use a case because the seals and IP-68 rating is only for fresh-water and the rating completely depends on the ability of flap-seals and sealant of the back cover to to do its job. I hope I can convince you to disregard water-resistance factor in your purchase. Notably because Sony won't cover any repairs if the damage is a result of water-damage(personal experience). That way, you can swap back glass covers as you please. They go for like $2.
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Thanks for the reply, if I understand you correctly replacing the back glass is not a big issue and is cheap, but what about the front screen? I did have a quick search around the net and it looks quite complicated and expensive to replace the front one.
Have you done the front one yourself?
Thanks.
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My z3c screens right top corner today unglued. Lasted for about 8 months since purchase, without case, without any water interference. Still under warranty, sending it for repair.
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Yep, mine has unglued as well, after 7 months of usage (bought it brand new), I am sending it for repair also. When my warranty expires, I will replace case on my own, because I have black one, and I want black screen + white case
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Thanks for the reply, if I understand you correctly replacing the back glass is not a big issue and is cheap, but what about the front screen? I did have a quick search around the net and it looks quite complicated and expensive to replace the front one.
Have you done the front one yourself?
Thanks.
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I service my own phones often enough to kind of say that replacing your own front screen is easy to do if you're starting out with this phoneYou take out the front-screen the same way you take apart the back screen.. As long as your motherboard components are in good condition like the USB Port, antenna, SIM/MicroSD slots, and the battery(cause this is glued very well to the motheboard), nearly everything on the Z3 Compact is expendable and easily replaceable.
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I service my own phones often enough to kind of say that replacing your own front screen is easy to do if you're starting out with this phoneYou take out the front-screen the same way you take apart the back screen.. As long as your motherboard components are in good condition like the USB Port, antenna, SIM/MicroSD slots, and the battery(cause this is glued very well to the motheboard), nearly everything on the Z3 Compact is expendable and easily replaceable.
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I've been using Z3C (15W33) since early september and this phone has really rough life. I mean working in very hard conditions (very cold outside > pretty warm inside the house) and I never really cared about it even when I know there are problems with the glass. Also I have a custom s-line case and that's the only protection... I dropped the phone twice or three times...
but it's still running pretty nice and there are no signs of any damage, the glass is more than OK