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Using titanium to restore apps...good?

I am about to wipe install Darky's new rom and would like a way to restore apps without having to reinstall each one individually.
What are the general feeling on resorting apps via titanium?
If I use titanium will the apps still receive automatic market updates?
Also can anyone recommend a good way of backing up contacts?
All advice is welcome!
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contacts i use googlemail...
for cleaner results just restore user no system apps.
if you go for darky 10 i wouldn't restore apps at all or just selected fresh install where ever you can...
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Had my SGS for three months on 3 in the UK.
In the first week I flashed the 2.2.1 update.
Brilliant phone, but then 2 days ago it suddenly went very wired, 1-3 buzzing, buzz pause buzz buzz buzz everything crashing and rebooting didn't help.
So I did a factory reset (reboot vol up + home + power) which of course wiped everything.... not even market worked.
I had a user folder with various essential files, including the titanium apk
Titanium restore all apps and data, sit back and wait around 20/30 minutes.
Phone restored EXACTLY as it was before, including placement of icons and everything down to the last detail.
A "Backup" generally in computing terms is like a parachute, you have no use at all for it until you need it, and then you'd better have one, and it better work.
Titanium backup worked, 100%, cannot fault it in any way whatsoever, if you only buy one apk, buy this.
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Sms backup plus which backed up all my calls and SMS and storing all my contacts to google/gmail and not sim card, and googe calendar probably helped a lot.
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I have titanium set to 7 backups, one a day per week, rolling.
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The only thing I am missing is a backup solution that backs up over the USB to a PC and which backs up absolutely everything on the phone, system and all.
As far as I know there is no ready made solution to this need?

Thanks Johnny, much appreciated mate!

So basically, when I upgrade to a new firmware, I can use titanium backup so I won't have to manually reinstall all my apps after a repartition/factory reset? What about settings such as wlan keys, or pictures associated with contacts?

taurui said:
So basically, when I upgrade to a new firmware, I can use titanium backup so I won't have to manually reinstall all my apps after a repartition/factory reset? What about settings such as wlan keys, or pictures associated with contacts?
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i would highly recomment not to restore system settings when upgrading to a new fw.
also titanium can't help if you f*ed up your system you should make a nandroid backup for that..
nandroid =safety
titanium=makes life easier but sometimes makes problems
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Ok, so there's no way to keep the contacts-pictures when upgrading to a new firmware without risking system stability? That sucks

Missing people

A while back after a rom or two always using Titanium backup a number of contacts disappeared. I had flashed a few rom and all contacts always saved the titanium. Then after another flash many were missing and would not or could not restore. Even downloading contact apps that revealed missing contacts did not show all I uses to have. I believe this was when I went from Fasty to either rc2.1 ics, cm7, or another gb rom. Any ideas?
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I've found its more reliable to use google contacts and just sync after a flash. As for recovering the ones lost, probably no hope unless you made a Nandroid of the last ROM you remember having all of them.

Darkangels6sic6 said:
A while back after a rom or two always using Titanium backup a number of contacts disappeared. I had flashed a few rom and all contacts always saved the titanium. Then after another flash many were missing and would not or could not restore. Even downloading contact apps that revealed missing contacts did not show all I uses to have. I believe this was when I went from Fasty to either rc2.1 ics, cm7, or another gb rom. Any ideas?
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I just go into contacts and click menu and restore/backup then I click backup to storage, then when I want them back I click restore from storage and its finds the file for you
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That is another way to back up contacts. However, if that backup were not performed before flashing a wipe ROM, it goes back to not being able to recover lost contacts.

(true life story)
I once had flash party with other junkies like me. Suddenly, people got missing!!!
But, luckily, nobody noticed it and the party went on!

changing custom Rom to another then restore with nandroid

I got a general enquiry, if I am currently on a trickdroid custom rom and wanted to flash ARHD, do I make a nandroid back up then full wipe before flashing ARHD? But when I restore the nandroid, does it revert me back to trickdroid since the nandroid backup was built using the data of trickdroid?
My goal is to change Roms but also able to retain apps and settings that I have set in my last Rom.
I just downloaded titanium backup too.
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Nandroid is a complete backup of /system /data and boot.img. You want titanium backup to retain data from rom to rom.

I have read a few threads but wasn't sure, thank you for confirming this. Much appreciated.
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just avoid restoring system data, just restore apps and userdata.

gunnyman said:
just avoid restoring system data, just restore apps and userdata.
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Hi Gunnyman, I have googled some guides in regards to wiping rom and restoring backups created by Titanium backup.
In my understanding of the process, The major point is not to restore system data and system apps as you have mentioned, but couple of guides have mentioned just to download the apps from the play/market store instead just restore the actual apps that was backed up by Titanium (So this will only restore the apps data). If this is true, is there a way to automatically download all my apps after I sign into my accounts after setting up the new ROM and restore partially the data from TiBU?
Many thanks in advance.

Cloudyherb said:
Hi Gunnyman, I have googled some guides in regards to wiping rom and restoring backups created by Titanium backup.
In my understanding of the process, The major point is not to restore system data and system apps as you have mentioned, but couple of guides have mentioned just to download the apps from the play/market store instead just restore the actual apps that was backed up by Titanium (So this will only restore the apps data). If this is true, is there a way to automatically download all my apps after I sign into my accounts after setting up the new ROM and restore partially the data from TiBU?
Many thanks in advance.
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Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.

gunnyman said:
Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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This is actually my first Android phone, I have always been using iphone (jailbroken), but I was never a religious loyal fan of their products, it is like a streamlined factory of robots and using it makes me feels like a prisoner. Android's customisation definitely lured me here, I research their system and finds it more promising in terms of customisation and personalisation.
I have a 25GB dropbox account, which was a free subscription rewarded for registering a new dropbox account through HTC devices., ( I had one existing 2gb account so I used a new e-mail address.)
I have actually turned off the HTC sync option, delete my account and disabled it. I saw posts on the forums that this is to maximise battery performances as constant syncing drains battery to a fair degree.
I am actually on ARHD 7.1 but considering flashing Trickdroid for experimenting purposes and also to test out its customisation ability in comparison.
What is your backup setup like? For example, if you would have to flash to a different ROM, or updating a Rom, would the steps be different? Because updating a rom over an existing one, IE ARHD 7.3 over ARHD 7.1, it can be flashed dirty without wiping right?

Cloudyherb said:
This is actually my first Android phone, I have always been using iphone (jailbroken), but I was never a religious loyal fan of their products, it is like a streamlined factory of robots and using it makes me feels like a prisoner. Android's customisation definitely lured me here, I research their system and finds it more promising in terms of customisation and personalisation.
I have a 25GB dropbox account, which was a free subscription rewarded for registering a new dropbox account through HTC devices., ( I had one existing 2gb account so I used a new e-mail address.)
I have actually turned off the HTC sync option, delete my account and disabled it. I saw posts on the forums that this is to maximise battery performances as constant syncing drains battery to a fair degree.
I am actually on ARHD 7.1 but considering flashing Trickdroid for experimenting purposes and also to test out its customisation ability in comparison.
What is your backup setup like? For example, if you would have to flash to a different ROM, or updating a Rom, would the steps be different? Because updating a rom over an existing one, IE ARHD 7.3 over ARHD 7.1, it can be flashed dirty without wiping right?
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I always do a factory wipe, then restore my titanium backup. back up in running with new ROM in 15 minutes.

gunnyman said:
Unfortunately Google's "restore this phone" feature you see when setting up a phone is hit or miss and there's no way to force it to do so.
HTC backup, present on some ROMS here, like mike1986's ahrd does the trick it uses dropbox to store backups of your phone.
I just use TiBu for everything as it always works and is more convenient for me.
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gunnyman said:
I always do a factory wipe, then restore my titanium backup. back up in running with new ROM in 15 minutes.
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And then using HTC and dropbox to restore your apps? But using TiBU to restore the apps settings over?
The user data have to be input manually, correct?

I use HTC sync then tibu to restorethe data and any apps it may have missed.

[Q] Stupid Question

I've rooted my phone and I want to get the new MaximusHD ROM (4.3, HTC Sense, Rooted)
How can I replace my ROM while preserving my data (WhatsApp messages, pictures, etc)?
I am sorry but I am coming from the world of Apple and iTunes did everything for me. Android is a totally new beast!

Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Philipp_94 said:
Use titanium Backup from playstore
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Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?

wirelessrevolution said:
Thanks
I downloaded the software.
What do I do? There are so many options. I don't need to backup the apk because I can redownload it from the Play Store.
All i care about is my user data.
Can I flash my ROM without losing data?
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What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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sauprankul said:
What do you mean by user data?
Pics music videos etc, basically anything in your SD card will be saved.
I think.
App data, you need to backup the whole app. That's how Ti backup works. You can't download the app form play store and apply your user data to it.
EDIT: just make a nandroid. Then backup whatever you need. If the restore fails, then you have something to fall back on.
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Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.

wirelessrevolution said:
Thanks but I have no idea what a nandroid is or how to do it.
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Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Dirty vs Clean install
sauprankul said:
Go to TWRP (personal favorite) or CWM.
Then, back up EVERYTHING.
Except media. But I'm not sure that's actually an option lol.
Oh yeah no need to back up the cache or the recovery either.
I believe CWM doesn't let you choose, you just hit back up and it backs up what it needs to.
Note: you can not selectively restore from a nandroid very easily. It is meant to be sort of a time machine, so if something screws up, you just restore your phone back to how it was.
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Yeah, TWRP lets you back up all your info. You can pick and choose and it lets you back up the current rom, so if you have issues you can go back to it. Copy that folder to a computer, because what you want to do is a dirty flash and might run into problems. It's best to flash by wiping clean and then replacing or you run into problems with the rom with some of the data.
Just my opinion.

My advice would be to read a lot more about how nandroid backups work and about how backup apps like Titanium Backup work as well before trying anything.
That being said the above advice about doing a nandroid from recovery is a must, especially if you're new to the android world and aren't sure what you're doing. The nandroid is your fail-safe in case anything goes wrong. It will allow you to restore your phone back to exactly how it was when you did the backup.
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
1. Have a rooted device
2. Download Titanium Backup (I bought the pro version, I think you need it to do batch backup/restore)
3. Batch backup all user apps (I also backup my call log and sms/mms messages)
4. Reboot device to recovery and perform a nandroid backup
5. Flash new rom
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
7. Reboot into new rom
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.

bluetint said:
As far as bringing the app data that you want into your newly flashed rom, this is what I do:
6. Wipe data/Factory reset
8. After doing all the initial device setup (google account, etc.) install Titanium Backup and restore all missing apps NOTE: RESTORE ONLY THE APPS NOT THE DATA!
9. Now this is the part that I do that technically isn't recommended because restoring data can cause issues but it's the only way I've found to restore app data that otherwise can't be restored. Do a batch "restore all apps and data" but select "data only" and "deselect all" and go through and manually select only the apps you really need to restore the data (this can also be done manually through Titanium but I still use the batch function). Also I restore the call log and sms/mms at this step.
Hopefully this helps. Best advice I can give you though is before you do anything, make sure you understand all of the steps completely. I've lost everything too many times because I didn't know what I was doing.
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Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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sauprankul said:
Question:
Why can't he restore apps and data together? I've anyways done that, and it's seemed to have worked for me. Maybe I just didn't notice any lost data?
Also. Restoring with the free version is a pita because you have to give it permission for every app individually.
Just saying.
And you do not need to wipe your media, but I recommend that you back it up.
Also: WOAH WOAH WOAH. Did you just tell the OP to flash a ROM, THEN wipe?
I'm pretty darn sure you should not do that.
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The reason I say not to restore data for every app is that not every app needs it's data restored to get everything back (i.e. Google Hangouts, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and I've always been warned that restoring data can cause issues. So my reasoning is the less I restore the better.
And I know using the free version of Titanium Backup is a PITA, that is why I said I use the paid version.
I never said to wipe media (I assume you mean the virtual sdcard) I said to wipe data/factory reset (the name of the option in CWM)
And there is nothing wrong with wiping after a flash. The wipe gets rid of user apps/data, anything installed with the rom is fine. If I'm mistaken, I apologize. However, I have never had an issue wiping after a flash.
If the OP doesn't want to follow my advice that's fine, I was simply describing what I've been doing on various devices for the last couple of years.

Backing up without Sync Manager?

Hi all,
So I took the plunge and installed cyanogen, backed up my HTC one first with their software and went ahead and installed the rom.
I had no idea the HTC sync software was dependent on SenseUI being on the device so now I can't recover my contacts or text messages.
No problem, I thought, because cyanogen makes a backup of the current image during install right? Apparently not, so I'm thinking my best course of action is to reinstall a compatible stock rom, get the phone numbers/texts, back up to google and find an app to backup the texts and then reinstall cyanogen.
My question what is the best way to backup the phone so I can retrieve the info with out sync manager?
Also, if anyone knows of an app that lets you save your texts to a file over usb to your computer that would be good.
Thanks!

SGSII_LEDnotify said:
Hi all,
So I took the plunge and installed cyanogen, backed up my HTC one first with their software and went ahead and installed the rom.
I had no idea the HTC sync software was dependent on SenseUI being on the device so now I can't recover my contacts or text messages.
No problem, I thought, because cyanogen makes a backup of the current image during install right? Apparently not, so I'm thinking my best course of action is to reinstall a compatible stock rom, get the phone numbers/texts, back up to google and find an app to backup the texts and then reinstall cyanogen.
My question what is the best way to backup the phone so I can retrieve the info with out sync manager?
Also, if anyone knows of an app that lets you save your texts to a file over usb to your computer that would be good.
Thanks!
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1. HTC backup
2. Htc One will export your sms/mms to an email account
3. Theirs no real support from me for Cyanogenmod

clsA said:
1. HTC backup
2. Htc One will export your sms/mms to an email account
3. Theirs no real support from me for Cyanogenmod
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Thanks for the reply, it sent myself an hbk file although I'm not sure if CM supports the importing of that format. The search continues
Edit: I used SMS Backup and Restore in the end