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[Q]Linux vs Windows 7 vs Mac

I have an HP Pavilion dv4. And I was wondering if I could update to another software. Either Linux or Mac. I was wondering which was better as in perfomance and compatibility. I was also wondering if it was possible to do such.
Thanks in advance. I don't care if this question results in an opinion. That is my intention. To see what the thoughts are of the operating system.
Also, It'd be best if you do not trash an Operating system if you don't have it. It wouldn't make sense.

This will result in being your opinion. It depends on what you are planning to do with the PC. If you are planning to go into rom development, then Linux would be your best choice. If you just want a PC for gaming, everyday tasks, etc., then Windows would be your best option. Mac - I really don't see what that's good for . But once again, it's your opinion.

Putting OSX in "non-apple" hardware is technically illegal.
For general users, a lot of apps may not be compatible with Linux so it depends what you'll be using it for.
So unless you have a specific purpose or function to run Linux, stick with Windows..

Theonew is once again correct, Linux for developers and geeks etc.. Windows for Gamers and normal people. Mac is really for people that do video/photo editing and design and stuff like that. That's where you missed the point Theonew
Final Cut Pro is cutting edge in video editing and as a result it's only available for Mac OS X...

Well.. I want a pc with Geek super abilities since I do have an Android. So that crosses Mac off the list. Mac is of more use for people with iDevices
At the same time I want to play games like Minecraft.
Will Linux run .exe programs or is it like mac.. I highly doubt it will run .exe programs.. but better safe then sorry
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Jimlarck said:
Well.. I want a pc with Geek super abilities since I do have an Android. So that crosses Mac off the list. Mac is of more use for people with iDevices
At the same time I want to play games like Minecraft.
Will Linux run .exe programs or is it like mac.. I highly doubt it will run .exe programs.. but better safe then sorry
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Linux will not run executable files. It uses archives instead (e.g. tgz).

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Why dont you try dual boot? You will have the best of both OS's.
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If you're interested in trying out different operating systems why don't you look into virtualization such as VMware.

You can use wine to run exe files on linux. However if you're just a casual user then it's really just a waste for you to try a Linux OS.
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Jimlarck said:
Well.. I want a pc with Geek super abilities since I do have an Android. So that crosses Mac off the list. Mac is of more use for people with iDevices
At the same time I want to play games like Minecraft.
Will Linux run .exe programs or is it like mac.. I highly doubt it will run .exe programs.. but better safe then sorry
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Linux DOES run minecraft! I play on it all the on Unbuntu.
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tanner4137 said:
Linux DOES run minecraft! I play on it all the on Unbuntu.
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All I needed to know can anyone tell Me how to update the HP Pavilion dv4 to Linux?
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TeeJay3800 said:
Moved to Off-Topic.
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How is this off-topic? :l
It was a question
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Mac wins. My say is complete
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calc said:
Putting OSX in "non-apple" hardware is technically illegal.
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Is it illegal or simply a violation of TOS/User agreement?
There is a difference. One is criminal and the other is civil.
If you deem it "illegal" then how so? Just curious.

Jimlarck said:
All I needed to know can anyone tell Me how to update the HP Pavilion dv4 to Linux?
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For ubuntu, just download wubi (available here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer)
It will beautifully setup a dualboot with windows and get your Linux environment setup in minutes. But one disclaimer, you will have to figure out how to get WiFi working. HP laptops and wireless don't get along well, be prepared to take some time to find the drivers. But if your using ethernet, you will probably be ready to go right out of the box
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Iam using windows 7 in my pc..
But i also dualboot ubuntu for my development.. so i like both of them
Lol
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Mehhhhh.... Anyone know of a fix to fix wireless internet then? I want all the information before I jump ship
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Jimlarck said:
Mehhhhh.... Anyone know of a fix to fix wireless internet then? I want all the information before I jump ship
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Did a quick search and found an issue with wifi on an HP Pavilion DV4 laptop. The fix was said to install "b43-fwcutter" & "bcmwl-kernel-source" (Source - Linuxquestions.org). You may want to take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8848735&postcount=5.

Theonew said:
Did a quick search and found an issue with wifi on an HP Pavilion DV4 laptop. The fix was said to install "b43-fwcutter" & "bcmwl-kernel-source" (Source - Linuxquestions.org). This seems to be the fix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8539988#post8539988.
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Man I love xda and the awesome people like that. They help and take time to help others. Stay awesome everybody
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Windows Phone on i9000 ?

Hello guys,
There was a post on a developers section that has opened my mind to an interesting wondering.
That guy asked if it's possible to run Windows8 (not a WindowsPhone 8) on our galaxy i9000.
I'm sure that most of xda users here know about HTC HD2's capability to run many operating system like WindowsPhone 7and all the android versions, and since i9000 is a very powerful device why wouldn't it be capable of running Windows Phone 7 or 8 in the future..

Simple,
Android = Open source
Windows Phone & iOS X = Closed/Proprietary

No like the guy said above windows ate very strict with there electronics
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patty1500 said:
No like the guy said above windows ate very strict with there electronics
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Wow, you wanna argue?
"windows ate very strict with there electronics" WTF are you on about? 'ate', of course 'Windows Phone 'ATE' strict rules like iOS. Lol, symbian has better apps than WP whatta a serious troll.
Android>iOS>RIM/Symbian>Windows Mobile
Would take RIM/Symbian over windows phone anyway. Same with Windows 8 and it's metro ui

Galaxy Note with Windows?

Is there a way to fully install Windows 7 OS on a Galaxy Note?
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nztechblog said:
Is there a way to fully install Windows 7 OS on a Galaxy Note?
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Which one would you like to install?
32-bit or 64-bit?

chasmodo said:
Which one would you like to install?
32-bit or 64-bit?
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chasmodo said:
Which one would you like to install?
32-bit or 64-bit?
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Why you're confusing poor guy...everyone in the world knows, that SGN hardware is limited to run Win XP only...nztechblog, I suggest you to install Windows 95 - it's a blast on Galaxy Note!

So can you install win 7 on SGN?
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Probably not.if you can it will be slow
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Either you are talking about windows phone 7 or you are looking at terminal clients.
For the first i'm guessing that there is a better change of wp8 running on your phone. for the second you can look at Remote Desktop by Xtralogic.
I really hope that wp8 rom will be released for samsung note. Would be something really refreshing

Windows is a closed platform so it aint gonna happen

CONTACTMC said:
Windows is a closed platform so it aint gonna happen
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with release i ofcourse mean baked into a rom by one of the XDA developers that can see the value in the far superior windows phone 8

Justice Strike said:
with release i ofcourse mean baked into a rom by one of the XDA developers that can see the value in the far superior windows phone 8
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Not going to happen there is no source for windows phone and no drivers for the notes hardware just not going to happen.
And to answer open in theory you could run windows 7 via a emulator much the same ways xp and 95 is run however the lag would make it completely unuseable
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chasmodo said:
Which one would you like to install?
32-bit or 64-bit?
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Lol
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I'm interested in installing Windows 8 on my Galaxy Note
It looks like a possibility....
dub dub dud techworld
Or is this info jusy hype ?
:good:

zacthespack said:
Not going to happen there is no source for windows phone and no drivers for the notes hardware just not going to happen.
And to answer open in theory you could run windows 7 via a emulator much the same ways xp and 95 is run however the lag would make it completely unuseable
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arm instructionset should be binary compatible. So i don't think there is a problem with having no source. Much the same as that windows runs on any pc regardless off driver support. (ok drivers are needed for peripherals but windows runs well on intel as on amd as on VIA

OP sir the anwser is no.
Thank you.

Windows RT ThinkTank

Hi all,
As Cotulla ported windows RT to the HD2 what is the likelyhood that we could get this booting on the PI?

Microsoft don't release the sources to the public, and Microsoft have minimum specs that manufacturers have to follow before they give them the source. Besides, the processor would be too slow and I have Windows 8 Pro on my PC anyway.
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And people don't realize how limited RT is. You HAVE to run apps off the store. You can't run or install executable files.
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NathanBookham said:
Microsoft don't release the sources to the public, and Microsoft have minimum specs that manufacturers have to follow before they give them the source. Besides, the processor would be too slow and I have Windows 8 Pro on my PC anyway.
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And people don't realize how limited RT is. You HAVE to run apps off the store. You can't run or install executable files.
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Do you know what the HTC HD2 is?
Its a Old windows Mobile phone Arm6 1gbz 512 meg ram.
If Windows RT can be ported to that it can be ported to the PI.
You should read the artical on the Portal before you make sweeping comments like we need the source or it doesn't meet the specs.

Yeah, but didn't the HD2 have Android and Windows Phone 7.
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NathanBookham said:
Yeah, but didn't the HD2 have Android and Windows Phone 7.
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Ported to it. It only shipped with windows mobile 6.5

That's interesting. Thought you could choose to run Android 2.3 or Windows Phone 7. I might be thinking of another phone. :what:
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NathanBookham said:
That's interesting. Thought you could choose to run Android 2.3 or Windows Phone 7. I might be thinking of another phone. :what:
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Nope it only shipped with windows mobile 6.5. XDA has kept the device alive by porting anything that will run on arm to it.

Yeah, I'm deffo thinking of another device.
It would be interesting to run it on the Pi, but I wouldn't use it as I have it on my desktop machine. Hats off to you if you manage to port it! Good luck!
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HD2 has ARMv7 Cortex-A8 Core, but Pi has an ARMv6 ARM11 Core
different arch versions will make it hard to get a successful boot on Pi

ExtremeGTX said:
HD2 has ARMv7 Cortex-A8 Core, but Pi has an ARMv6 ARM11 Core
different arch versions will make it hard to get a successful boot on Pi
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That's the issue. It isn't rather easy trying to port ARMv7 binaries to ARMv6.
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ARMv6 is dead. Although I have smooth CM10.1 on my ZTE Skate 700mhz ARMv6 phone.

Oscar-Mark said:
ARMv6 is dead. Although I have smooth CM10.1 on my ZTE Skate 700mhz ARMv6 phone.
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I have JB on my Ace
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Off-topic but related to this thread
Recently in 2k11 Google started the lnar xprize which my fathers team is working on but they aren't on xda...They have Windows rt to control theyre robot which has a rPi mounted on it running Linux .... And fyi HD2 was given official WP7 update

death_sinker said:
And fyi HD2 was given official WP7 update
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FYI you are wrong...
There was NO official WP7 update!
I had a HD2 before my Desire S now and it ran Win 6.5/WP7/WP8/Android/Debian/Ubuntu/an a bunch of other Linux Distris.

Thanks

WEC 7 on Raspberry Pi
I'm not sure that Windows RT supports architectures older than Arm-v7.
You may run Windows Embedded Compact 7 (aka Win CE) on it. You can find BSPs on here:
http://ceonpi.codeplex.com

tjsooley said:
Hi all,
As Cotulla ported windows RT to the HD2 what is the likelyhood that we could get this booting on the PI?
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Why would you want to ruin a perfectly usable device with Windows of any kind?
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If you don't know how to use Windows it doesn't mean it ruins devices (at least devices owned by others).
Actually, google is ruining devices.

winrt
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HD2 has ARMv7 Cortex-A8 Core, but Pi has an ARMv6 ARM11 Core
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the pi 3 has arm v7

Off-topic Linux thread!

Haven't seen one here so I decided to make one.
This thread is for talk about any thing Linux. Whether it be a distro, a kernel, OS, mobile Linux, anything! Keep on the topic of Linux, but feel free to talk about anything Linux!
Let me start and tell you my experience with Linux:
It started when my home computer got a virus while I was using Windows 7, tried everything to get it back. I got a recovery disk; nothing, I tried downgrading to xp; virus still persisted. I thought, let me try and use this thing (I called Linux a thing because I didn't know the word OS) a teacher recommended me trying. So I tried to install the latest build (at the time) of ubuntu, 11.04. The problem was that the screen was dim and nothing would be visible. So I had a friend come over who claims to be computer smart (not smart at all) and he said, "why not try an earlier version?" I thought "genius," so I installed it and I started using it. I loved it! It was easy to use and it was virus free! And now I am a happy user (from time to time because I need Windows for video editing) of the latest version of Linux ubuntu!
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Well, Ive asked questions of Ubuntu and Linux Mint somewhere else in OT, let me think.......
Oh yeah, HERE!!
Off Topic Computer Thread
Also, Archer does not appreciate if one starts a thread, and does not initially contribute to it. Simply stating, "This the official OT thread, discuss people!!" Does not count as an initial contribution.
I see that you edited your OP. I retract my statement where I said you did not contribute to your own thread.

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Well, Ive asked questions of Ubuntu and Linux Mint somewhere else in OT, let me think.......
Oh yeah, HERE!!
Off Topic Computer Thread
Also, Archer does not appreciate if one starts a thread, and does not initially contribute to it. Simply stating, "This the official OT <something> thread, discuss people!!" Does not count as an initial contribution.
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I made an initial contribution, thanks for the tip. If a mod wants to lock they can, but I feel Linux needs its own thread.
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I've been using Linux for about 5 years now and never looked back. Absolutely no need for Windows. Arch Linux ftw!
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...but I feel Linux needs its own thread.
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I kind of agree. Linux is an entire different animal than Winders, so it should have it's own thread.
But with the powers that be moving individual device O/T threads here, it'll just get lost in the clutter.
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kindofabuzz said:
Absolutely no need for Windows.
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I don't understand why Linux users hate Windows. I dual boot Windows 8 and I love it. Bet all the Windows haters loved it before they switched to Linux.
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cmason37 said:
I don't understand why Linux users hate Windows. I dual boot Windows 8 and I love it. Bet all the Windows haters loved it before they switched to Linux.
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^This^ I'm dual booting W7 and Mint. Each have there advantages and disadvantages.

I'm learning to use Linux to write ROMs and kernels...
Reading through the guides crazily
And I got w7+Ubuntu
Sorry for my bad English.
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cmason37 said:
No Windows 8 lovers? Don't knock it til you try it.
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Some of us have tried it. We've tried to like it. The tablet interface needs to stay on tablets. It's not being afraid or resistant to change, it's that doesn't work well in the enterprise area, or is not ergonomically acceptable when it comes to touch screen lap/desktops.
The Metro interface is a reverse of what MSFT has done in the past. Instead of shoe-horning a desktop UI into a mobile device, they're trying to put the mobile device UI onto the desktop. Doesn't work that well in either instance.

It's just the start screen. The desktop I'd still there.
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They both are good in there own way, but ubuntu in the future is going to be the dominate OS with Windows next and Mac third.
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It's just the start screen. The desktop I'd still there.
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Not really. With legacy apps, yes. Not with the newer apps that they're trying to push.

But the point is you don't have to use the " apps"

cmason37 said:
But the point is you don't have to use the " apps"
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But the point is you don't have to use the " apps"
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MSFT is pushing for it. They want software to go through them like Apple does with their store.
Yes, most software isn't Metro'ed yet, but some things I would use in Windows just might eventually go that way.

This isn't a Microsoft thread. STFU about Microsoft.
Anyway, has anyone tried Elementary OS Luna? It's still in beta but I think it's great.

I looked at some reviews of it... Joli OS? It's cool, a cloud OS, you need to register annd you can acces your OS from any browser, or you can boot it off a flash drive,or install it to your hard drive...:thumbup:
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MSFT is pushing for it. They want software to go through them like Apple does with their store.
Yes, most software isn't Metro'ed yet, but some things I would use in Windows just might eventually go that way.
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For most consumers that's a good thing. I think there's always going to be a disconnect between Linux users and mainstream consumer needs. Not that I don't agree but MS is a business and Apple has invented a successful money farm that any business would be happy to replicate.

How would you guys rate Fedora? I'm thinking about trying it.
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