[Q] Questions related to rooting and roms - Nexus 7 General

Ok, i bought my Nexus 7 2012 4-5 weeks ago, and ever since i have been trying to learn much about my Nexus 7 as possible. I'm already a mediocre on computers, i know the basics and every component of a computer. But i'm not familiar to Android.
Can someone inform me as to what is rooting? I already know some apps for android require rooting in order to operate and a pc is needed to root an android device, and to me rooting is like a counterpart to Apple IOS's jailbreaking?
I've searched many forums threads in many forums, many people talk of ROMS, when concerning the Nexus 7 and/or other Android devices.
Can someone tel me what ROMS are when concerning Android devices?
Any info is appreciated

Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.

Sm0k3d 0uT said:
Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.
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Can you give me an example of a rooting method and an example of a android rom?

you can root using wug fresh nexus root toolkit, and you may have heard of cyanogenmod, one of the most frequent and well known roms for android
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GoldenNexus7 said:
Can you give me an example of a rooting method and an example of a android rom?
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There are tutorials in the stickies that cover how to root.
As for a ROM, the OS you are using on it is a Stock ROM.
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Pirateghost said:
There are tutorials in the stickies that cover how to root.
As for a ROM, the OS you are using on it is a Stock ROM.
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^ this
Read, learn, understand and read some more...... before you touch a thing. Or trouble will come.
Having someone walk you thru it won't teach you anything....or help you to understand what you're doing.
Its very easy to brick your device if you do something incorrectly.
Just my advice!
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kj2112 said:
^ this
Read, learn, understand and read some more...... before you touch a thing. Or trouble will come.
Having someone walk you thru it won't teach you anything....or help you to understand what you're doing.
Its very easy to brick your device if you do something incorrectly.
Just my advice!
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Thank you for your information everyone, you helped me understand some of this, but i more question what is the term "Bricked"?
Is it a permanent error r crash in your device?

GoldenNexus7 said:
Thank you for your information everyone, you helped me understand some of this, but i more question what is the term "Bricked"?
Is it a permanent error r crash in your device?
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A "brick" means your device is irrecoverable (from your perspective) and will not respond to any input whatsoever. Basically, your device becomes a paperweight.
Please understand this so that if/when something goes wrong, you don't post another thread screaming "MY TABLET IS BRICKED" when it's actually just bootloading or stuck on a boot screen.

Sm0k3d 0uT said:
Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.
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Sort of... Rooting gives you access to everything on the device, while jailbreaking is still somewhat restricted. Also, jailbreaking is achieved by using exploits, while rooting is possible using utilities already built into the device for development purposes. This is why rooting is incredibly easy, safe, and cohesive across nexus devices and os versions.
It's actually quite hard to brick a nexus device. The only way I can think of is "fastboot erase bootloader". Stay away from that and you'll be okay
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korockinout13 said:
Sort of... Rooting gives you access to everything on the device, while jailbreaking is still somewhat restricted. Also, jailbreaking is achieved by using exploits, while rooting is possible using utilities already built into the device for development purposes. This is why rooting is incredibly easy, safe, and cohesive across nexus devices and os versions.
It's actually quite hard to brick a nexus device. The only way I can think of is "fastboot erase bootloader". Stay away from that and you'll be okay
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Ahh but your definition of rooting is specific to nexus devices and not android devices in general.
Most non-nexus devices achieve rooting through one form of exploit or another.

Sm0k3d 0uT said:
Ahh but your definition of rooting is specific to nexus devices and not android devices in general.
Most non-nexus devices achieve rooting through one form of exploit or another.
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True... But root is root. Once rooted, you've got access to everything.
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korockinout13 said:
True... But root is root. Once rooted, you've got access to everything.
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Bootloader on a carrier locked device.

Haha, ok guys, i will just use my device plainly for a while until it gets boring then i'm gonna fill it with Roms and i will root it, do i need only one computer to root, it or i can use multiple. People say rooting your device makes i more vulnerable to drive-by virus downloads and stuff. should i listen to them or is it some anti-root bull****.

GoldenNexus7 said:
Haha, ok guys, i will just use my device plainly for a while until it gets boring then i'm gonna fill it with Roms and i will root it, do i need only one computer to root, it or i can use multiple. People say rooting your device makes i more vulnerable to drive-by virus downloads and stuff. should i listen to them or is it some anti-root bull****.
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Why would you need multiple computers to unlock the bootloader, and flash a recovery? You only have to do it one time. You don't 'root' it every time you want to flash something....
Drive by viruses? Technically could happen without root, root doesn't automatically make it any more unsafe than no root. You just have to be smart about what you install.
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ToolKit
Id also recommend WugFresh's toolkit as well!
Simple to use and its quick, easy, and VERY USEFUL!

freddy0872 said:
Id also recommend WugFresh's toolkit as well!
Simple to use and its quick, easy, and VERY USEFUL!
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Actually the OP appears to want to learn about these things. Therefore a toolkit is a dumb idea.
You know that whole learning thing. Some people actually want to do that.
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Pirateghost said:
Actually the OP appears to want to learn about these things. Therefore a toolkit is a dumb idea.
You know that whole learning thing. Some people actually want to do that.
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I was only giving my opinion as far as ease of use. Not used to peeps who actually want to work for unlock or root. Majority of people want to press a button and then have no clue what just happened.
Most don't even know what dalvik cache is! They might think it's a person! Lmao!
So I appreciate your correction. Also thanks for not chomping my head off to much!
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Thanks guys, in your opinion, which game pad controller do you guys think is best for android AND my laptop, i want one for android w/ pc. Is there one that even exists, i want to exclude xbox360 controllers an ps3 controllers.

Def don't use a toolkit cant learn much like that. Adb and fastboot is the easiest and safest way to root a nexus device.
So you can start there. Google has some pretty good into on doing all this. If your using a PC make sure to ga grab the drivers. (Linux and osx don't need drivers) and of course searching the nexus forums here at xda you can obtain tons of info. Everything I know I learned here and Google. (Not a pro or anything but know my way a little about android and rooting.
And always have fun.
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OP you familiar with Unix/Linux? Root is also used there and is relatively the same. Basically it gives you or root apps elevated permissions, like having admin permissions on a windows PC.
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GoldenNexus7 said:
Thanks guys, in your opinion, which game pad controller do you guys think is best for android AND my laptop, i want one for android w/ pc. Is there one that even exists, i want to exclude xbox360 controllers an ps3 controllers.
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I personally use a PS3 controller on my tablet and phone, because it can be paired via Bluetooth and I already had ps3 controllers. Figured its better than buying a BT controller specifically for android devices.
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Risks of Rooting?

Ok so, I bought this awesome device and Im waiting for it to be delivered. I know that rooting has awesome features and great things, but Im wondering if someone has experienced any kind of issue after rooting... I read somewhere here in the forum, that the Wifi on someone's tablet stopped working and he had to return it.. Sadly, I can't be returning stuff since I live out of the states and is not that easy... Hope someone can tell me ^^ Would love to have 3 or 4 answers for me to take my decision. Thanks in advance.
Jailuis
jailuis said:
Ok so, I bought this awesome device and Im waiting for it to be delivered. I know that rooting has awesome features and great things, but Im wondering if someone has experienced any kind of issue after rooting... I read somewhere here in the forum, that the Wifi on someone's tablet stopped working and he had to return it.. Sadly, I can't be returning stuff since I live out of the states and is not that easy... Hope someone can tell me ^^ Would love to have 3 or 4 answers for me to take my decision. Thanks in advance.
Jailuis
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If you follow instructions to a complete letter and make sure it's the correct rooting instructions for your version number, then all should be well but I do have to say that it's always done at your own risk. There's no way around that.
I have not read anyone else with rooting problems on here for the KFHD. The guy with the wifi post which I've read most likely got a dud. Mine was rooted and ran fine for me. I returned mine for other reasons.
Just be careful on what you do to your device. If you do something you shouldn't with your "extra privileges", it can be easy to brick your device. Especially when it's so young in development stages right now.
I received my fire a week ago. I intended to root it like I have all other android devices I own.
I have kept it stock and probably will for awhile. I just did not feel the need to root. I side loaded GMail and most other Google apps I wanted. I side loaded adw launcher and dolphin browser. So I feel no real reason to root since a few people have had problems.
Now when the boot loader gets unlocked and there is custom Roms now that is a different story.
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I rooted yesterday. Got go ex as default launcher, play store, dolphin, etc. No problems yet. Seems faster, if anything.
There aren't many risks with it other then the average (brick). Which can occur with any device. Just make sure you follow the steps correctly step by step, and make sure your adb drivers are installed correctly.
Pirub said:
I rooted yesterday. Got go ex as default launcher, play store, dolphin, etc. No problems yet. Seems faster, if anything.
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About the only reason I'd root is for the play store
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You risk having a better running tablet
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My devices are all rooted, for my Bionic, it's so that I can use AdFree, Titanium Backup and to run AirBubble, which let's AirPlay devices see the phone and ply music to it remotely (or to whatever speakers it's plugged in to! ) It doesn't have to be used for illegal stuff, it just unlocks your phone's administrator privileges so that those that know specific use cases which require lower level code can go ahead and run. If you can already do everything you want with your phone, you don't need to root it.
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My devices are all rooted, for my Bionic, it's so that I can use AdFree, Titanium Backup and to run AirBubble, which let's AirPlay devices see the phone and ply music to it remotely (or to whatever speakers it's plugged in to! ) It doesn't have to be used for illegal stuff, it just unlocks your phone's administrator privileges so that those that know specific use cases which require lower level code can go ahead and run. If you can already do everything you want with your phone, you don't need to root it.
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Rooting is good for getting rid of bloatware too.
With rooting there is always a risk that you are going to screw something up. The easiest way to ensure that doesnt happen is to not root the device. But if you are going to anyway just don't do something you don't fully understand unless you are willing to take the risks.
For example if you do not know how to use adb then don't try at this time, play around with it on something else. If you still want root and don't know adb then use the automated root tool. All the hard stuff is done for you and there is no chance of inputting something wrong and causing problems. To avoid any conflicts with apps or settings reset the device to factory. Just one more step to take human error out of the equation.
After the device is rooted is when people tend to cause problems for themselves. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!! If you are messing around inside a file manager any folder outside the sdcard folder has the potential to cause problems so- IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!!(unless you can afford the risk)
When making changes, research what you are trying to do extensively and don't rely on one source. What worked for one person will not always work for another, to many variables.
All in all just aire on the side of caution.
Thanks for all responses ^^ I've had other android devices and I had rooted them, but Im afraid with this one since I read about the wifi not working anymore... But thanks to all of you I might give it a shot. One last thing, I have 2 KFHD, do I have to install Adb for both?
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jailuis said:
Thanks for all responses ^^ I've had other android devices and I had rooted them, but Im afraid with this one since I read about the wifi not working anymore... But thanks to all of you I might give it a shot. One last thing, I have 2 KFHD, do I have to install Adb for both?
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I used the auto root tool without issues. I would think once you install adb on your Pc it should work for both. I had to also install the android sdk tool.
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no risk.just go ahead.toot it.lol
onemeila said:
With rooting there is always a risk that you are going to screw something up. The easiest way to ensure that doesnt happen is to not root the device. But if you are going to anyway just don't do something you don't fully understand unless you are willing to take the risks.
For example if you do not know how to use adb then don't try at this time, play around with it on something else. If you still want root and don't know adb then use the automated root tool. All the hard stuff is done for you and there is no chance of inputting something wrong and causing problems. To avoid any conflicts with apps or settings reset the device to factory. Just one more step to take human error out of the equation.
After the device is rooted is when people tend to cause problems for themselves. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!! If you are messing around inside a file manager any folder outside the sdcard folder has the potential to cause problems so- IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!!(unless you can afford the risk)
When making changes, research what you are trying to do extensively and don't rely on one source. What worked for one person will not always work for another, to many variables.
All in all just aire on the side of caution.
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Thanks.

Chromacast jailbreak. Any one working on it?

Anyone has any ideas to jailbreaking chromecast?
bisbal said:
Anyone has any ideas to jailbreaking chromecast?
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Chromecast has been rooted. You have to have specific devices, as Google locked the device down and is unrootable after a certain point. Check to see if your serial number is listed in the "Rootable Serial Numbers" thread, and make sure you've never updated it over WiFi, as it will automatically install Google's updates and render your device locked permanently. All of this information is covered extensively in the threads around this one you started, use the information that is present.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2537022
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529903
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578653
Also Google has open sourced Chromecast's API's so anyone can develop app support for it. The question is what you plan on doing once you root/jailbreak it. Whatever it is will still require development and app support.
borxnx: Thanks, but I already knew that, obviously I am talking about the *NEW* devices that have a protected bootloader! :-/
xlxcrossing: I knew all that too, I am not asking for API's or anything else, I am specifically asking for jailbreaking and being able to install my own ROM!
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borxnx: Thanks, but I already knew that, obviously I am talking about the *NEW* devices that have a protected bootloader! :-/
xlxcrossing: I knew all that too, I am not asking for API's or anything else, I am specifically asking for jailbreaking and being able to install my own ROM!
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At the very least @rekids is working on a hardware method...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2746636
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698446
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703327
I'm sure there are other threads, but that was just a quick few-minute search.
Likely you won't see anything open-public until it actually works, as it's a cat-and-mouse game with Google. Tip your hand early and Google could just roll out an update to stop you before the exploit is usable by a significant number of folks.
Maybe its because the exploit was patched very early but i fail to see any benefit from rooting.
And i say this as someone that used to flash 5 ROMs a week.
This device is very limited and i doubt root would allow much
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drivenby said:
Maybe its because the exploit was patched very early but i fail to see any benefit from rooting.
And i say this as someone that used to flash 5 ROMs a week.
This device is very limited and i doubt root would allow much
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Yet... Now Team Eureka has added native screen cast. That's definitely a bonus. Say that again in a year, after the chromecast2 comes out and Google changes everything, again.
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borxnx said:
Yet... Now Team Eureka has added native screen cast. That's definitely a bonus.
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It's more like early access for that, as it should get released to all (supported configurations) once Google declares it ready.
IMO, Team Eureka's web panel adds a whole lot, but I'm the type that likes control over things like DNS and being able to remotely reboot things.
-= this post enhanced with bonus mobile typos =-
I am quite sad that only those in the US got chance to root on early devices.
Im in the UK and just bought mine but cant install custom roms.
Hope some genius finds a workaround.

[Q] Should I root or not

Ok so I just switched from an iPhone 6 plus to the note 4 and I love it but I keep seeing all the post about rooting and I don't know if it's for me I have jailbroken my iPhone before but I see so many different stuff like roms and am kind of lost and don't know where I would start and what to choose what's the difference between them and if it's even worth it any info and comments would be appreciated. Thanks
Dude, if you have a brain in your head. And a computer or laptop at home. WHAT are you waiting for??! Rooting and custom roms are always going to be my sht lol. Thus why when I get my laptop I am rooting right away. And start to learn to code android with a bunch of programs. Eventually i will bring out a rom myself. It's all about the love for the "sport". Only reason I haven't rooted is because the current computer I have sucks so bad, so slow. But once this taxes come in baby its on!
I haven't found the need to root just yet. If Lollipop releases before the official T-Mobile release, then may-be.
no... simple
But I still don't know why I should root and I I was going to root which one should I use and what does it mean when I see people are rooted and then they flash roms or something I don't want to brick my phone and will I still be able to jump because I hear that it will show that it's been rooted or something about Knox?
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no... simple
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The need to root should come before doing it. If you don't know what you're doing it for then you don't need it.
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But I still don't know why I should root and I I was going to root which one should I use and what does it mean when I see people are rooted and then they flash roms or something I don't want to brick my phone and will I still be able to jump because I hear that it will show that it's been rooted or something about Knox?
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Based on your questions, you have ALOT of reading up to do before you should even attempt to root..Its super easy, but until you know what you are doing, and how to recover in case something goes wrong, don't be in a hurry to do anything...
Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
I'd recommend firekat for your first rom. I'm switching to some version of cm12 today, but you can work on that later when you are more comfortable with Odin and team win recovery.
I guess my main question is what can I do if I root that I can't do unrooted. I have unrooted a phone before thanks to this forum and the help users provided. I wouldn't do anything until I read and was sure of what I was doing but the curiosity has me thinking of doing it and as I read the post on these forums like everyone and their mother is rooted.
You won't brick. These phones are hard to brick. Just follow the instructions. They don't check if Knox is tripped to jump.
Ad blockers like adfree and adaway are big reasons for me. Makes it so you can use free apps without suffering through the ads. It's most important for me with free games and the CNN app:
You can see in that same picture cachemate. Using it and other cleaners requires root access.
Sd maid is another cleaner that needs root access to be fully functional. In the picture you can also see root browser which let's you see more of the phone than my files:
Titanium backup let's you remove the Tmobile bloat:
It requires root access.
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You can see in that same picture cachemate. Using it and other cleaners requires root access.
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you should stop advertising root to him.. LOL
Free tethering.
Ok well so far the only thing I would do it for would be for the hotspot what else could I benefit from and thanks for all the comments and info
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Why would you say that?
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Root help

Hi I'm thinking about rooting my phone soon, how easy is it and is it complicating. I've rooting a few phones before a HTC m7 & HTC one x. Any tips would be great
welshandy2322 said:
Hi I'm thinking about rooting my phone soon, how easy is it and is it complicating. I've rooting a few phones before a HTC m7 & HTC one x. Any tips would be great
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its easy. the basics..
1. fastboot oem unlock unlocks the bootloader.
2. fastboot flash a custom recovery.
3. flash supersu with your custom recovery
4. reboot with root.
Or you can be super lazy and download the WugFresh toolkit and follow the on-screen instructions.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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Is that a better way
welshandy2322 said:
Is that a better way
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no, as you dont learn anything. and next time you need some simple service to your phone, youll have no idea how to do it. root toolkits are not good for newbies, only if you already kniw what you are doing. besides, its not any quicker, doing it the proper way takes 3-4 minutes. its a nexus, and easy rooted. google even gives us the option of unlocking the bootloader, so no hacking needed.
He said he rooted a few phones before. [emoji6]
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He said he rooted a few phones before. [emoji6]
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none a nexus. all those other phones have a different procedure.
Thanks for the replies. Just downloading android studio setup should be rooted soon
simms22 said:
none a nexus. all those other phones have a different procedure.
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This is the easiest device I've ever worked with but my first Nexus. I figured it was the same for everybody.
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DebianDog said:
This is the easiest device I've ever worked with but my first Nexus. I figured it was the same for everybody.
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any nexus is easy. once you get the basics, its very easy compared to the other devices. but the basics are important
DebianDog said:
This is the easiest device I've ever worked with but my first Nexus. I figured it was the same for everybody.
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No they're all different because of proprietary bootloaders. Some don't even have fastboot and some of those that do, do not natively have unlock functions that we have on nexuses
I've downloaded android studio and every time I go back and open it it always reinstalls everything
welshandy2322 said:
I've downloaded android studio and every time I go back and open it it always reinstalls everything
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whats android studio? all you need to root is fastboot, but adb is good to have as well, for any future issues.
There was a guide I was reading that said to download android studio. I'll have another crack at it tomorrow
DebianDog said:
Or you can be super lazy and download the WugFresh toolkit and follow the on-screen instructions.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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This needs to be stickied at the top of this forum section. It's the only way to go
neyenlives said:
This needs to be stickied at the top of this forum section. It's the only way to go
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I have spent several hours, if not days, in front of an ADB terminal and I'm not sure it's the best way to learn. Maybe it is if you have very exacting instructions.
Yes there are hundreds of guides out and there are plenty of ways to do it wrong out there too. At least with the tool you see the commands that are being run and he double checks every step you do. He also keeps it updated with the latest drivers and versions.
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DebianDog said:
Or you can be super lazy and download the WugFresh toolkit and follow the on-screen instructions.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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Bad advice imo, root/toolkits do not educate users. Fastboot/adb/bootloader is the way to go so they are able to solve issues
gee2012 said:
Bad advice imo, root/toolkits do not educate users. Fastboot/adb/bootloader is the way to go so they are able to solve issues
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Yes, but sometimes we just want to get on and do things; we don't always want to be educated. I can use my phone without knowing how the hardware works. I drive my cars with only a fairly hazy understanding of how the internal combustion engine operates. Heck, I can even breath, eat and sleep every day without a degree in medicine.
I've gone through the pain of rooting enough phones over the years - when I got my N6 I just wanted to get it rooted and be over and done with, and that's where the rootkit was invaluable.
Rooting a phone is not an end in itself - it's a step on a journey to install and use those apps that require root. I just wanted to get to that point as quickly as possible.
Philip said:
Yes, but sometimes we just want to get on and do things; we don't always want to be educated. I can use my phone without knowing how the hardware works. I drive my cars with only a fairly hazy understanding of how the internal combustion engine operates. Heck, I can even breath, eat and sleep every day without a degree in medicine.
I've gone through the pain of rooting enough phones over the years - when I got my N6 I just wanted to get it rooted and be over and done with, and that's where the rootkit was invaluable.
Rooting a phone is not an end in itself - it's a step on a journey to install and use those apps that require root. I just wanted to get to that point as quickly as possible.
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OK point taken, not talking about hardware though but about software that can occur with toolkits. If problems arise users are often stuck with a problem they can't solve. That's what I mean with education and then they post a thread to get help from users that know how to deal with issues ?
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Philip said:
Yes, but sometimes we just want to get on and do things; we don't always want to be educated. I can use my phone without knowing how the hardware works. I drive my cars with only a fairly hazy understanding of how the internal combustion engine operates. Heck, I can even breath, eat and sleep every day without a degree in medicine.
I've gone through the pain of rooting enough phones over the years - when I got my N6 I just wanted to get it rooted and be over and done with, and that's where the rootkit was invaluable.
Rooting a phone is not an end in itself - it's a step on a journey to install and use those apps that require root. I just wanted to get to that point as quickly as possible.
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I think you have xda-developers mistaken for either an end-user site, or a support site. It is not. It is a developer site for developers and for those who want to learn how things related to mobile devices work.
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Why is it so hard to root google nexus phones?

I came from samsung note 4 and rooting is a breeze! just install custom recovery and flash a kernel you are rooted already!!! but with nexus 6!!!!! jesus christ!!! its like reading thousands of pages for medical examination!!!
download this and that, open terminal command, write those bla bla bla in the command and with one mistake your
hard earned money will be gone!!!!
all posted links are not updated for god sake!, all posted links instructions are hard to understand!!!
anybody here cant explain simple instructions! you have to read 1000 paragraphs to learn simple things!
CANT YOU GIVE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER?
DO I NEED TO RELOCK IT OR MUCH BETTER I WILL TO REMAIN UNLOCK FOR LIFE?
This is the worse phone ever!
So, it's hard to root because you can't one click your way to glory? If you think rooting a Nexus phone is hard, I'd hate to see what it takes to be easy. The only reason there is any difficulty is due to security changes in Android itself.
Sent from my Nexus 6
its extremely easy to root any nexus, as in i have no idea what world youre in.
1. unlock the bootliader via fastboot. the code is fastboot oem unlock. the setting in the developer options has to be set to oem unlock.
2. fastboot flash twrp recovery.
3. flash any custom kernel(for marshmallow) and the latest supersu in your new twrp recovery.
4. reboot and have root.
Wow. No wonder the android community is going to hell in a hand basket. Laziness is just overwhelming. I've rooted every major android phone make out there except for huawei and nexus is the easiest along with Samsung to root. If you don't have patience to read what you need to download then have fun with an unroofed phone. I'm sure if my turtle had opposable thumbs, it could root this phone with ease.
bigstunta101 said:
Wow. No wonder the android community is going to hell in a hand basket. Laziness is just overwhelming. I've rooted every major android phone make out there except for huawei and nexus is the easiest along with Samsung to root. If you don't have patience to read what you need to download then have fun with an unroofed phone. I'm sure if my turtle had opposable thumbs, it could root this phone with ease.
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i dont even think that having opposable thumbs is even needed here..
Its easy once you get the hang of it. As said before, changes in android versions make things difficult.
Or, you know, you can use Nexus Root Toolkit and one-click your way to glory.
I would guess its so "hard" because computers are incredibly complex devices that work on the culmination of decades of combined development and advancement, and you are insistent on remaining ignorant.
The command to unlock the bootloader depends on your setup, but is literally just "fastboot oem unlock" or "fastboot flashing unlock"
Then you need to install recovery using 1 other command
then you need to flash a kernel, and supersu.
That is literally it.
If that is too hard for you, you should probably leave it all alone.
Worst phone ever??? What?? I rooted , decrypted, installed custom ROM in 6 minutes. Try that on sammy
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Your in the wrong place to be dogging Nexus.
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I thought this was some sarcastic thread or something. Had to do a double take to see he was really serious. Thanks for the laugh though
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You should see some of his past threads. Holy mother......
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shadowcore said:
Its easy once you get the hang of it. As said before, changes in android versions make things difficult.
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This!
Easy guys, the users guide for rooting was like thicker than a thesaurus book if you print it on paper! Long, complicated and un necessary! Cant you produce instruction with image or video and with few bla bla bla!?
by the way just to inform everybody here, i bought a nexus phone because i thought those tech reviewers on youtube are real! Holy cow they are just a paid troll! They lie to us that this phone is ultra fast compared to other android phones in the world and i thought theres no need for me to root it. Because all i want is a fast and responsive phone not mr stutter nexus phone! The performance is comparable to 5$ china android phone! I cant believe it!
zwwel said:
Or, you know, you can use Nexus Root Toolkit and one-click your way to glory.
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No you can't, at least not with older versions that don't know about Marshmallow security stuff.
But that's just good that way, rooting phones and installing stuff was never for the lazy and ignorant, who are not even willing to google stuff first. They just borked their phones with "easy on click" solutions then ran here crying for help.
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Also the OP is the epitome of what's wrong with XDA nowadays. He does nothing just bursts in guns blazing, and demands solutions to his problems ASAP or he will break his toys.
istperson said:
No you can't, at least not with older versions that don't know about Marshmallow security stuff.
But that's just good that way, rooting phones and installing stuff was never for the lazy and ignorant, who are not even willing to google stuff first. They just borked their phones with "easy on click" solutions then ran here crying for help.
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Also the OP is the epitome of what's wrong with XDA nowadays. He does nothing just bursts in guns blazing, and demands solutions to his problems ASAP or he will break his toys.
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You can root Marshmallow just fine with the latest version of NRT.
I used toolkits in the past but once I learned the fastboot commands and got use to them its just as fast if not faster; imo. I feel more confident and accomplished using fastboot; makes me feel more involved.
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You can root Marshmallow just fine with the latest version of NRT.
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And brick it with the version before that, that people still try to use, then come here panicking.
The problem with rootkits it that they give people the false security that someone else instead of them knows what he or she is doing. And while it might be the truth, it's only valid until a new version of Android come out with even stronger security measures and people start bricking their phones without any clue why it's happening.
Click -> click -> brick.
I think the best way for you to root is just to go outside dig a hole in the ground and bury your phone right there.. Sit down just wait a week or so until it catches root and your golden.
On a serious note.. Go away. people like you OP really tingle my fist reflex .
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
juggamonkey said:
I think the best way for you to root is just to go outside dig a hole in the ground and bury your phone right there.. Sit down just wait a week or so until it catches root and your golden.
On a serious note.. Go away. people like you OP really tingle my fist reflex .
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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why so mean? u cant handle the reality of life that the phone u are holding is not that easy to root?
comeon! are u being paid to not tell the truth?

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