Why is it so hard to root google nexus phones? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I came from samsung note 4 and rooting is a breeze! just install custom recovery and flash a kernel you are rooted already!!! but with nexus 6!!!!! jesus christ!!! its like reading thousands of pages for medical examination!!!
download this and that, open terminal command, write those bla bla bla in the command and with one mistake your
hard earned money will be gone!!!!
all posted links are not updated for god sake!, all posted links instructions are hard to understand!!!
anybody here cant explain simple instructions! you have to read 1000 paragraphs to learn simple things!
CANT YOU GIVE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER?
DO I NEED TO RELOCK IT OR MUCH BETTER I WILL TO REMAIN UNLOCK FOR LIFE?
This is the worse phone ever!

So, it's hard to root because you can't one click your way to glory? If you think rooting a Nexus phone is hard, I'd hate to see what it takes to be easy. The only reason there is any difficulty is due to security changes in Android itself.
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its extremely easy to root any nexus, as in i have no idea what world youre in.
1. unlock the bootliader via fastboot. the code is fastboot oem unlock. the setting in the developer options has to be set to oem unlock.
2. fastboot flash twrp recovery.
3. flash any custom kernel(for marshmallow) and the latest supersu in your new twrp recovery.
4. reboot and have root.

Wow. No wonder the android community is going to hell in a hand basket. Laziness is just overwhelming. I've rooted every major android phone make out there except for huawei and nexus is the easiest along with Samsung to root. If you don't have patience to read what you need to download then have fun with an unroofed phone. I'm sure if my turtle had opposable thumbs, it could root this phone with ease.

bigstunta101 said:
Wow. No wonder the android community is going to hell in a hand basket. Laziness is just overwhelming. I've rooted every major android phone make out there except for huawei and nexus is the easiest along with Samsung to root. If you don't have patience to read what you need to download then have fun with an unroofed phone. I'm sure if my turtle had opposable thumbs, it could root this phone with ease.
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i dont even think that having opposable thumbs is even needed here..

Its easy once you get the hang of it. As said before, changes in android versions make things difficult.

Or, you know, you can use Nexus Root Toolkit and one-click your way to glory.

I would guess its so "hard" because computers are incredibly complex devices that work on the culmination of decades of combined development and advancement, and you are insistent on remaining ignorant.
The command to unlock the bootloader depends on your setup, but is literally just "fastboot oem unlock" or "fastboot flashing unlock"
Then you need to install recovery using 1 other command
then you need to flash a kernel, and supersu.
That is literally it.
If that is too hard for you, you should probably leave it all alone.

Worst phone ever??? What?? I rooted , decrypted, installed custom ROM in 6 minutes. Try that on sammy
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Your in the wrong place to be dogging Nexus.
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I thought this was some sarcastic thread or something. Had to do a double take to see he was really serious. Thanks for the laugh though
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You should see some of his past threads. Holy mother......
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shadowcore said:
Its easy once you get the hang of it. As said before, changes in android versions make things difficult.
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This!

Easy guys, the users guide for rooting was like thicker than a thesaurus book if you print it on paper! Long, complicated and un necessary! Cant you produce instruction with image or video and with few bla bla bla!?

by the way just to inform everybody here, i bought a nexus phone because i thought those tech reviewers on youtube are real! Holy cow they are just a paid troll! They lie to us that this phone is ultra fast compared to other android phones in the world and i thought theres no need for me to root it. Because all i want is a fast and responsive phone not mr stutter nexus phone! The performance is comparable to 5$ china android phone! I cant believe it!

zwwel said:
Or, you know, you can use Nexus Root Toolkit and one-click your way to glory.
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No you can't, at least not with older versions that don't know about Marshmallow security stuff.
But that's just good that way, rooting phones and installing stuff was never for the lazy and ignorant, who are not even willing to google stuff first. They just borked their phones with "easy on click" solutions then ran here crying for help.
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Also the OP is the epitome of what's wrong with XDA nowadays. He does nothing just bursts in guns blazing, and demands solutions to his problems ASAP or he will break his toys.

istperson said:
No you can't, at least not with older versions that don't know about Marshmallow security stuff.
But that's just good that way, rooting phones and installing stuff was never for the lazy and ignorant, who are not even willing to google stuff first. They just borked their phones with "easy on click" solutions then ran here crying for help.
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Also the OP is the epitome of what's wrong with XDA nowadays. He does nothing just bursts in guns blazing, and demands solutions to his problems ASAP or he will break his toys.
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You can root Marshmallow just fine with the latest version of NRT.

I used toolkits in the past but once I learned the fastboot commands and got use to them its just as fast if not faster; imo. I feel more confident and accomplished using fastboot; makes me feel more involved.

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You can root Marshmallow just fine with the latest version of NRT.
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And brick it with the version before that, that people still try to use, then come here panicking.
The problem with rootkits it that they give people the false security that someone else instead of them knows what he or she is doing. And while it might be the truth, it's only valid until a new version of Android come out with even stronger security measures and people start bricking their phones without any clue why it's happening.
Click -> click -> brick.

I think the best way for you to root is just to go outside dig a hole in the ground and bury your phone right there.. Sit down just wait a week or so until it catches root and your golden.
On a serious note.. Go away. people like you OP really tingle my fist reflex .
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juggamonkey said:
I think the best way for you to root is just to go outside dig a hole in the ground and bury your phone right there.. Sit down just wait a week or so until it catches root and your golden.
On a serious note.. Go away. people like you OP really tingle my fist reflex .
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why so mean? u cant handle the reality of life that the phone u are holding is not that easy to root?
comeon! are u being paid to not tell the truth?

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[Q] Questions related to rooting and roms

Ok, i bought my Nexus 7 2012 4-5 weeks ago, and ever since i have been trying to learn much about my Nexus 7 as possible. I'm already a mediocre on computers, i know the basics and every component of a computer. But i'm not familiar to Android.
Can someone inform me as to what is rooting? I already know some apps for android require rooting in order to operate and a pc is needed to root an android device, and to me rooting is like a counterpart to Apple IOS's jailbreaking?
I've searched many forums threads in many forums, many people talk of ROMS, when concerning the Nexus 7 and/or other Android devices.
Can someone tel me what ROMS are when concerning Android devices?
Any info is appreciated
Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.
Sm0k3d 0uT said:
Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.
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Can you give me an example of a rooting method and an example of a android rom?
you can root using wug fresh nexus root toolkit, and you may have heard of cyanogenmod, one of the most frequent and well known roms for android
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GoldenNexus7 said:
Can you give me an example of a rooting method and an example of a android rom?
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There are tutorials in the stickies that cover how to root.
As for a ROM, the OS you are using on it is a Stock ROM.
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Pirateghost said:
There are tutorials in the stickies that cover how to root.
As for a ROM, the OS you are using on it is a Stock ROM.
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^ this
Read, learn, understand and read some more...... before you touch a thing. Or trouble will come.
Having someone walk you thru it won't teach you anything....or help you to understand what you're doing.
Its very easy to brick your device if you do something incorrectly.
Just my advice!
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kj2112 said:
^ this
Read, learn, understand and read some more...... before you touch a thing. Or trouble will come.
Having someone walk you thru it won't teach you anything....or help you to understand what you're doing.
Its very easy to brick your device if you do something incorrectly.
Just my advice!
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Thank you for your information everyone, you helped me understand some of this, but i more question what is the term "Bricked"?
Is it a permanent error r crash in your device?
GoldenNexus7 said:
Thank you for your information everyone, you helped me understand some of this, but i more question what is the term "Bricked"?
Is it a permanent error r crash in your device?
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A "brick" means your device is irrecoverable (from your perspective) and will not respond to any input whatsoever. Basically, your device becomes a paperweight.
Please understand this so that if/when something goes wrong, you don't post another thread screaming "MY TABLET IS BRICKED" when it's actually just bootloading or stuck on a boot screen.
Sm0k3d 0uT said:
Rooting is for Android is the equivalent to JailBreaking iOS.
ROMs are versions of Android built and developed by a third person.
Usually ROMs will have features that are not in stock Android.
Some ROMs are optimized for smoothness and speed others are visually more appealing.
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Sort of... Rooting gives you access to everything on the device, while jailbreaking is still somewhat restricted. Also, jailbreaking is achieved by using exploits, while rooting is possible using utilities already built into the device for development purposes. This is why rooting is incredibly easy, safe, and cohesive across nexus devices and os versions.
It's actually quite hard to brick a nexus device. The only way I can think of is "fastboot erase bootloader". Stay away from that and you'll be okay
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korockinout13 said:
Sort of... Rooting gives you access to everything on the device, while jailbreaking is still somewhat restricted. Also, jailbreaking is achieved by using exploits, while rooting is possible using utilities already built into the device for development purposes. This is why rooting is incredibly easy, safe, and cohesive across nexus devices and os versions.
It's actually quite hard to brick a nexus device. The only way I can think of is "fastboot erase bootloader". Stay away from that and you'll be okay
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Ahh but your definition of rooting is specific to nexus devices and not android devices in general.
Most non-nexus devices achieve rooting through one form of exploit or another.
Sm0k3d 0uT said:
Ahh but your definition of rooting is specific to nexus devices and not android devices in general.
Most non-nexus devices achieve rooting through one form of exploit or another.
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True... But root is root. Once rooted, you've got access to everything.
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korockinout13 said:
True... But root is root. Once rooted, you've got access to everything.
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Bootloader on a carrier locked device.
Haha, ok guys, i will just use my device plainly for a while until it gets boring then i'm gonna fill it with Roms and i will root it, do i need only one computer to root, it or i can use multiple. People say rooting your device makes i more vulnerable to drive-by virus downloads and stuff. should i listen to them or is it some anti-root bull****.
GoldenNexus7 said:
Haha, ok guys, i will just use my device plainly for a while until it gets boring then i'm gonna fill it with Roms and i will root it, do i need only one computer to root, it or i can use multiple. People say rooting your device makes i more vulnerable to drive-by virus downloads and stuff. should i listen to them or is it some anti-root bull****.
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Why would you need multiple computers to unlock the bootloader, and flash a recovery? You only have to do it one time. You don't 'root' it every time you want to flash something....
Drive by viruses? Technically could happen without root, root doesn't automatically make it any more unsafe than no root. You just have to be smart about what you install.
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ToolKit
Id also recommend WugFresh's toolkit as well!
Simple to use and its quick, easy, and VERY USEFUL!
freddy0872 said:
Id also recommend WugFresh's toolkit as well!
Simple to use and its quick, easy, and VERY USEFUL!
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Actually the OP appears to want to learn about these things. Therefore a toolkit is a dumb idea.
You know that whole learning thing. Some people actually want to do that.
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Pirateghost said:
Actually the OP appears to want to learn about these things. Therefore a toolkit is a dumb idea.
You know that whole learning thing. Some people actually want to do that.
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I was only giving my opinion as far as ease of use. Not used to peeps who actually want to work for unlock or root. Majority of people want to press a button and then have no clue what just happened.
Most don't even know what dalvik cache is! They might think it's a person! Lmao!
So I appreciate your correction. Also thanks for not chomping my head off to much!
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Thanks guys, in your opinion, which game pad controller do you guys think is best for android AND my laptop, i want one for android w/ pc. Is there one that even exists, i want to exclude xbox360 controllers an ps3 controllers.
Def don't use a toolkit cant learn much like that. Adb and fastboot is the easiest and safest way to root a nexus device.
So you can start there. Google has some pretty good into on doing all this. If your using a PC make sure to ga grab the drivers. (Linux and osx don't need drivers) and of course searching the nexus forums here at xda you can obtain tons of info. Everything I know I learned here and Google. (Not a pro or anything but know my way a little about android and rooting.
And always have fun.
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OP you familiar with Unix/Linux? Root is also used there and is relatively the same. Basically it gives you or root apps elevated permissions, like having admin permissions on a windows PC.
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GoldenNexus7 said:
Thanks guys, in your opinion, which game pad controller do you guys think is best for android AND my laptop, i want one for android w/ pc. Is there one that even exists, i want to exclude xbox360 controllers an ps3 controllers.
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I personally use a PS3 controller on my tablet and phone, because it can be paired via Bluetooth and I already had ps3 controllers. Figured its better than buying a BT controller specifically for android devices.
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[Q] Bought a seemingly rooted phone on Swappa and I'm concerned...

OK, I'm going to start by saying I know pretty much nothing about rooting and I may come across as a paranoid conspiracy nut, but here goes.
I recently bought a Note 3 on Swappa. In the description, the seller said that he had removed all of the AT&T Bloatware, but the phone was not rooted. He also stated that a system reset would restore the AT&T apps. Well, the first thing I did was a system restore, but the AT&T apps were still gone. Not that I care about the apps really, but it seemed weird.
Today, I downloaded the "Root Checker" app on the Play Store and it told me that my phone was, in fact, rooted. I also downloaded SuperU and it verified that as well. I've also gotten Titanium Backup (Root) and it shows I'm rooted.
I posted a message on my sale page at Swappa mentioning this, but the seller is adamantly denying that the phone is rooted. He says they use their "own process" to remove the bloatware.
My question in all of this is is this: Is this something I should be concerned about? The seller seems less than honest about the phone being rooted. He is a "trusted seller" which is one reason I bought from him, but I'm super paranoid that there might be something on my phone that I'm unaware of. (a keylogging app, etc...) Is there any way to tell this? How do I go about truly returning my phone back to its original state? I system reset didn't unroot it.
Any advice from people out there much more knowledgeable than me about this?
EDIT: well, I took andygev35's advice and restored back to factory. However, I enjoyed playing around with the things that being rooted allowed, so I re-did it. A huge waste of time? Maybe, but at least I have some peace of mind over the whole thing now. Thanks to everyone!
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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andygev35 said:
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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Thanks, and holy crap - just glancing at that it looks like a total pain in the ass. This is why I never bothered to root in the first place. Do you think I'm being too paranoid? Or is is worth doing all this?
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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andygev35 said:
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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OK. I may do this when I get home. Thanks.
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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mrkhigh said:
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
Why wouldn't anyone want access to the root files in THEIR phone ???
You have root access to your PC or Mac, why would anyone want a provider to lock down their phone making things inaccessible.
You're not renting the phone, it's Yours (always try and have root access if possible).
google up moborobo and download it, its free and gives u full access to your phone, please download it and check it out -
You will love all the stuff you can do with a rooted N3 -
andygev35 said:
I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
Since we now have nc2 Odin files you are relatively safe in doing a restore.
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ThePorter said:
I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
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I too am a former Jailbreaker and am so glad I jumped the fence out of Apple's walled garden. I do have to say, at least Apple readily provides the latest firmware for their devices. I can't understand why AT&T won't let Sammy publish our Odin files. As @mrkhigh stated, we DO now have the Odin files (probably gained in some nefarious manner by a sympathizing Best Buy employee), so now you can safely let the experimenting begin without worry.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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Pretty sure it's a real AT&T - I took it to the store and had them check the IMHO when I had it activated. I finally just uprooted and flashed the 4.4.2 stock on it (I'm learning the terminology here so hope that's right) from the first post.
The guy is a trusted seller and has sold tons of phones in Swappa. He advertises on all the Samsung at&t phones that he removes the bloatware but does NOT root the phone. But, it was.
In the end, I'm happy with the phone. Seller was less than honest about his process and hopefully he didn't steal all my bank info, haha, but the phone works great.
You have to root to remove all bloatware...
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Good to know though. *cheers*
Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Im sure its probably because he sells a lot of devices and didn't realize the one he sold had root.
Then when he talked to u he realized that u r uneducated about the subject so he thought he would bs u.
Of course one would have to have root access to remove root files.
I still don't understand why ur making such a big fuss?
If u don't feel like u lucked out, (like the rest of us do) just send the flipping thing back!
Did you download free moborobo?
Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Yeah, you're right. I looked at it but it seems to be completely unnecessary.
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
Stryke_the_Orc said:
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Excuse me but this is not an unknown app, it has been around for years and works wonderfully !!!
I have been using it since I got my N3 at thanksgiving and it works great, installs downloaded apk files in a snap, allows you easy navigation to your entire phone.Doesn't spam you. It just works great. I'm only recommending it because I have USED it for 9 months, (and you guys can't even google it?)
Since when do mods and forum gurus recommend staying away from something they have never used it, or even spent 10 secs researching ????
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moborobo+review
I was only trying to help OP out. it is a great and FREE app for rooted devices, sorry for wasting ur time OP -
(ps - I found the software while trying to transfer my contacts and sms messages from my 4s to N3, which worked perfectly and easily, (after trying other stuff). It was after that I discovered how nice it manages everything)

Root help

Hi I'm thinking about rooting my phone soon, how easy is it and is it complicating. I've rooting a few phones before a HTC m7 & HTC one x. Any tips would be great
welshandy2322 said:
Hi I'm thinking about rooting my phone soon, how easy is it and is it complicating. I've rooting a few phones before a HTC m7 & HTC one x. Any tips would be great
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its easy. the basics..
1. fastboot oem unlock unlocks the bootloader.
2. fastboot flash a custom recovery.
3. flash supersu with your custom recovery
4. reboot with root.
Or you can be super lazy and download the WugFresh toolkit and follow the on-screen instructions.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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Is that a better way
welshandy2322 said:
Is that a better way
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no, as you dont learn anything. and next time you need some simple service to your phone, youll have no idea how to do it. root toolkits are not good for newbies, only if you already kniw what you are doing. besides, its not any quicker, doing it the proper way takes 3-4 minutes. its a nexus, and easy rooted. google even gives us the option of unlocking the bootloader, so no hacking needed.
He said he rooted a few phones before. [emoji6]
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DebianDog said:
He said he rooted a few phones before. [emoji6]
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none a nexus. all those other phones have a different procedure.
Thanks for the replies. Just downloading android studio setup should be rooted soon
simms22 said:
none a nexus. all those other phones have a different procedure.
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This is the easiest device I've ever worked with but my first Nexus. I figured it was the same for everybody.
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DebianDog said:
This is the easiest device I've ever worked with but my first Nexus. I figured it was the same for everybody.
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any nexus is easy. once you get the basics, its very easy compared to the other devices. but the basics are important
DebianDog said:
This is the easiest device I've ever worked with but my first Nexus. I figured it was the same for everybody.
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No they're all different because of proprietary bootloaders. Some don't even have fastboot and some of those that do, do not natively have unlock functions that we have on nexuses
I've downloaded android studio and every time I go back and open it it always reinstalls everything
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I've downloaded android studio and every time I go back and open it it always reinstalls everything
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whats android studio? all you need to root is fastboot, but adb is good to have as well, for any future issues.
There was a guide I was reading that said to download android studio. I'll have another crack at it tomorrow
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Or you can be super lazy and download the WugFresh toolkit and follow the on-screen instructions.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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This needs to be stickied at the top of this forum section. It's the only way to go
neyenlives said:
This needs to be stickied at the top of this forum section. It's the only way to go
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I have spent several hours, if not days, in front of an ADB terminal and I'm not sure it's the best way to learn. Maybe it is if you have very exacting instructions.
Yes there are hundreds of guides out and there are plenty of ways to do it wrong out there too. At least with the tool you see the commands that are being run and he double checks every step you do. He also keeps it updated with the latest drivers and versions.
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Or you can be super lazy and download the WugFresh toolkit and follow the on-screen instructions.
http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt/
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Bad advice imo, root/toolkits do not educate users. Fastboot/adb/bootloader is the way to go so they are able to solve issues
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Bad advice imo, root/toolkits do not educate users. Fastboot/adb/bootloader is the way to go so they are able to solve issues
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Yes, but sometimes we just want to get on and do things; we don't always want to be educated. I can use my phone without knowing how the hardware works. I drive my cars with only a fairly hazy understanding of how the internal combustion engine operates. Heck, I can even breath, eat and sleep every day without a degree in medicine.
I've gone through the pain of rooting enough phones over the years - when I got my N6 I just wanted to get it rooted and be over and done with, and that's where the rootkit was invaluable.
Rooting a phone is not an end in itself - it's a step on a journey to install and use those apps that require root. I just wanted to get to that point as quickly as possible.
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Yes, but sometimes we just want to get on and do things; we don't always want to be educated. I can use my phone without knowing how the hardware works. I drive my cars with only a fairly hazy understanding of how the internal combustion engine operates. Heck, I can even breath, eat and sleep every day without a degree in medicine.
I've gone through the pain of rooting enough phones over the years - when I got my N6 I just wanted to get it rooted and be over and done with, and that's where the rootkit was invaluable.
Rooting a phone is not an end in itself - it's a step on a journey to install and use those apps that require root. I just wanted to get to that point as quickly as possible.
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OK point taken, not talking about hardware though but about software that can occur with toolkits. If problems arise users are often stuck with a problem they can't solve. That's what I mean with education and then they post a thread to get help from users that know how to deal with issues ?
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Philip said:
Yes, but sometimes we just want to get on and do things; we don't always want to be educated. I can use my phone without knowing how the hardware works. I drive my cars with only a fairly hazy understanding of how the internal combustion engine operates. Heck, I can even breath, eat and sleep every day without a degree in medicine.
I've gone through the pain of rooting enough phones over the years - when I got my N6 I just wanted to get it rooted and be over and done with, and that's where the rootkit was invaluable.
Rooting a phone is not an end in itself - it's a step on a journey to install and use those apps that require root. I just wanted to get to that point as quickly as possible.
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I think you have xda-developers mistaken for either an end-user site, or a support site. It is not. It is a developer site for developers and for those who want to learn how things related to mobile devices work.
If you believe the journey is to install and use root apps, you are mistaken. Please see here: http://goo.gl/lrs8H

Help prove to my mother that it's extremely hard to brick a Nexus

So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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Tell her that you won't use a phone with restrictions. Give the phone back. Be strong, don't complain. Just leave the phone alone.
zfrnz said:
So I dropped my Galaxy S4 and destroyed the display, rendering it useless. Then I ordered a Nexus 6 and its amazing! I love it. I had rooted my S4 successfully and I had some root apps running, which I came to love and now I'm having trouble to live without them.
I want to root my Nexus 6, but my mom won't let me. She says she wants to learn more about the risks.
I don't understand her reasoning because rooting a Samsung on Verizon is extremely tricky compared to a Nexus, and I was able to do that without any problems. From what I can tell the risk is very low for a Nexus, and it's hard to completely brick as long as you don't go flashing the wrong stuff and I probably won't go flashing anything fancy until there are some more ROMs for Marshmallow. And if I ever do physically break it, its really easy to go back to stock and make it like it was never even messed with. I've tried to tell her this but she won't listen.
If anyone has a minute, can someone confirm and possibly reinforce my statement? I'd love to root this baby in the next few days. Thanks!
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Just tell her your grandma`s phone is rooted too
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Tell her that you won't use a phone with restrictions. Give the phone back. Be strong, don't complain. Just leave the phone alone.
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If I did that then she would get pissed and just take the phone away... Stock is better than no phone at all. If I give her some evidence then that would most likely do the trick. I've learned that if I go about things in smart ways and don't get angry, I get what I want more often. Thanks though
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Just tell her your grandma`s phone is rooted too
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Lol... My grandfather's phone actually is rooted. He's got sprint though and they're better when it comes to fixing rooting.
Your mother is just being cautious. Yeah, the chances of brick on nexus phones are slim, but that depends on how much you know about rooting and such; or how well you can follow instructions to the letter. And, like any other phone, Nexus' can be very expensive to fix if damaged too much (hard brick). Especially with the Marshmallow update, anything can go wrong. If you're confident in what you're doing, go for it. Otherwise, listen to your mother.
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If I did that then she would get pissed and just take the phone away... Stock is better than no phone at all. If I give her some evidence then that would most likely do the trick. I've learned that if I go about things in smart ways and don't get angry, I get what I want more often. Thanks though
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No, be consequent, the phone is yours or not. You can not change the idea that there risks. Because there is a risk.
You could change the strategy. The risk is not the rooting process. The risk is the person that roots the phone. Show/tell her that you know all the howto's. You must give the impression you are an expert.
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Your mother is just being cautious. Yeah, the chances of brick on nexus phones are slim, but that depends on how much you know about rooting and such; or how well you can follow instructions to the letter. And, like any other phone, Nexus' can be very expensive to fix if damaged too much (hard brick). Especially with the Marshmallow update, anything can go wrong. If you're confident in what you're doing, go for it. Otherwise, listen to your mother.
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Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
zfrnz said:
Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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I didn't know the toolkit could now root Marshmallow. I could've sworn using it would brick the phone. If the root toolkit can do it, by all means go for it
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I didn't know the toolkit could now root Marshmallow. I could've sworn using it would brick the phone. If the root toolkit can do it, by all means go for it
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This page has mixed answers... One guy said it worked but another got bootloop. But a boot loop is easy to get out of and that seems like the worst thing that happened
zfrnz said:
Yeah but compared to rooting an S4 a nexus is not risky at all... And wugfresh toolkit works on Marshmallow so that makes it even easier
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Last remark. Arguments won't change the idea's of your mother. Tell her you should be very happy when your phone is rooted. Because of the customizing possibilities, like the use of layers.
Happiness is a state of mind and you will remember many many years later the fun of using a smartphone that was rooted. Thanks to your mother.
first off, it is EASY to brick a nexus, especially if you go the toolkit route. why? because when you use a toolkit you never learn how to do anything, like fixing your device, or how to actually root properly. that said, if you do decide to go that way, ill expect to see a thread titled.. "my mom was right about me bricking my n6".
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This page has mixed answers... But a boot loop is easy to get out of and that seems like the worst thing that happened
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Still a hassle though. Luckily, I've never heard of anyone hard-bricking a nexus
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first off, it is EASY to brick a nexus, especially if you go the toolkit route. why? because when you use a toolkit you never learn how to do anything, like fixing your device, or how to actually root properly. that said, if you do decide to go that way, ill expect to see a thread titled.. "my mom was right about me bricking my n6".
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In that case, it's always wise to learn both methods. From my experience, as long as you unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging, the root kit is foolproof
It's possible her concern isn't about bricking but data security risks?
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Still a hassle though. Luckily, I've never heard of anyone hard-bricking a nexus
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In that case, it's always wise to learn both methods. From my experience, as long as you unlock the bootloader and enable USB debugging, the root kit is foolproof
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both methods? theres is only one right method, pressing a button isnt a method. but, once you learn the proper method, feel free to use a toolkit. the problem is that a lot of newbies use toolkits, then run into easily fixable problems that they cant solve.
and it appears that you dont read much, as very many have bricked their nexus. most common way recently is by running into a bootloop without having your bootloader unlocked nor the option to unlock it enabled. thats a 100% brick, and its happened to very many people.
Not that I'm condoning defying your mom's explicit wishes, but she's not even going to know if you root it. Better to ask forgiveness after than permission before...
If you learn to do everything manually and not use a toolkit then it is quite hard to brick a Nexus device. BUT, I've not rooted my last two (N5 and this N6) as there's no point these days.
Bricking will occur if you try and take a short cut or don't follow instructions.
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both methods? theres is only one right method, pressing a button isnt a method. but, once you learn the proper method, feel free to use a toolkit. the problem is that a lot of newbies use toolkits, then run into easily fixable problems that they cant solve.
and it appears that you dont read much, as very many have bricked their nexus. most common way recently is by running into a bootloop without having your bootloader unlocked nor the option to unlock it enabled. thats a 100% brick, and its happened to very many people.
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I mentioned unlocking the bootloader and enabling USB debugging when using the root kit
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I mentioned unlocking the bootloader and enabling USB debugging when using the root kit
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id even unlock my bootloader even if i never rooted.
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id even unlock my bootloader even if i never rooted.
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Mine is always unlocked also

Is the S5 still a good phone to get in 2016?

About to get warranty replacement phone thru my carrier tomorrow.
Was offered S5 and an alternate to my G3 since they were out of stock.
If you were in my shoes, which phone would you get?!
Thanks in advance
S5
The S5 is still a very capable phone. The display is top notch. It would really depend on what carrier you are with though. I know the att variant cant be rooted or unlocked currently and verizon has theirs locked down too, but as long as it comes with lollipop (5.x.x) software the verizon variant can be unlocked all the way to the bootloader.
as far as i know they are the only two providers who secure the s5 like fort knox. I could be wrong though. I have a verizon variant (900V) and its fully unlocked and rooted. I dont think you'll find a better phone in the same price range.
S5 is still a great phone. Only issues ive had with it over the 28 mos that ive had it is the low light blurryness with the camera and the fact that you have to swipe your thump across the fingerprint scanner. Having to do that nowadays kinda makes it feel dated. Other than those 2 issues, its a great phone!!
I just got an S5 to replace my S4 and I love it. I'm on AT&T and got the Tmobile version for the unlocked bootloader. I would totally get this phone again.
Its a great phone!
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The S5 is still a very capable phone. I have a verizon variant (900V) and its fully unlocked and rooted.
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I have a s5 900v like you (verizon) & got it 12 days ago. . When did you root yours? I *had* lollipop until last Thursday after accidentally pressing the screen through my pocket....which proceded to accept the update I was avoiding. Now I have marshmellow and I'm not happy ???*
Been fishing through XDA and haven't found anything about rooting s5 on mm. Anyone have something to share with me? Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
That's for bootloader unlocking, some Google searching should get you root too
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youdoofus said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
That's for bootloader unlocking, some Google searching should get you root too
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I tried the root method (link within the thread u posted) about a week ago & had problems. To make a long story short, check out my remarks on pages 1-2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/to-root-t3330514/page2
I'm just looking to root my g900v s5. I don't want to mess around with the bootloader (not yet anyway). I just want root before Marshmellow or verizon release another update to patch the *open* vulnerability.
If the dumb MM update didn't happen I would've had time to find lollipop root. I never had a problem w/ my s4 where the screen would allow a touch through pants or shirt pocket. Thought these things were sensitive to the touch of skin not clothing?? Cause of my problem was losing my s4 over July 4th weekend that I rooted w/ towelroot in 05/2014 (that I just paid off in May over 24 months w/ verizon)
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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have you tried kingroot? not kingoroot
youdoofus said:
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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have you tried kingroot? not kingoroot
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is.
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youdoofus said:
Right on. Well, if the bootloader unlock is there, root has to be possible too. I'll see what I can find later. We are busy as hell on Mondays at work
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is. Thanks
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Root looked do-able by what @painiac put together, which is similar to @jkrause's is in the link you shared.
Kingroot: no go
OneClick: no go
Towelroot: no go
The root (sorry, couldn't resist) of my problem is that I can't get a PC to recognize my s5 as removable storage. Since they don't this has prevented me from going any further. Take your time and pass on whatever you can...whenever that time is. Thanks
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CLEVER!!! LoL! No, that was actually pretty funny! But oneclick and towel doesnt surprise me, but kingroot has been the "if nothing else works" as of late. I have a root program on my computer that i cant recall the name of off hand, and it does look like a malware program, but its been the go-to when all else fails. Ill look at my desktop icons and remind myself what it is when i get home. Its some chinese .exe is that helps in the interim
found it, its called "v root"
it looks like its malware, but the one i got works fine
here is a bit of an older article that lists it first as a good program to root stuff
http://www.3ptechies.com/9-best-software-apps-to-root-android-devices.html
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About to get warranty replacement phone thru my carrier tomorrow.
Was offered S5 and an alternate to my G3 since they were out of stock.
If you were in my shoes, which phone would you get?!
Thanks in advance
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I'd stay clear of Samsung from my experiences:
- issues with warranty and knox
- not easy to customise / flash / fix OEM issues with bloatware, root, other ROM issues that require root
- many variants mean even after 8 years of flashing ROMs, I still can't find what I need in the SGS5 section. I don't know what ROMs can be flashed to my device, the information is sparse and not easy to follow or understand
I'm looking to go back to HTC - they don't mind you rooting / customising (unless this has changed in the last couple years).
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I'd stay clear of Samsung from my experiences:
- issues with warranty and knox
- not easy to customise / flash / fix OEM issues with bloatware, root, other ROM issues that require root
- many variants mean even after 8 years of flashing ROMs, I still can't find what I need in the SGS5 section. I don't know what ROMs can be flashed to my device, the information is sparse and not easy to follow or understand
I'm looking to go back to HTC - they don't mind you rooting / customising (unless this has changed in the last couple years).
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I disagree with this (respectfully). I've never had to return a Samsung because of warranty related issues or return one period, so warranty and Knox are all but irrelevant. Customization is a snap, flashing is a breeze, and bloatware (which is caused by the carrier most often) is easily solved with titanium backup. There are many variants, yes, but all the Roms are cross compatible as long as you flash the snapdragon based processor ones on a snapdragon powered device. The only sgs5s that were problematic were the at&t and (of course) vzw ones because of the carriers deciding to lock the @&$%/!? Bootloaders. Sprint and tmob sgs5s have always been an absolute cakewalk. Hell, I've bricked mine intentionally just to see if I could actually kill it. It's actually harder than one would think to seriously screw up a sgs5 esp a g900p
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I disagree with this (respectfully). I've never had to return a Samsung because of warranty related issues or return one period, so warranty and Knox are all but irrelevant. Customization is a snap, flashing is a breeze, and bloatware (which is caused by the carrier most often) is easily solved with titanium backup. There are many variants, yes, but all the Roms are cross compatible as long as you flash the snapdragon based processor ones on a snapdragon powered device. The only sgs5s that were problematic were the at&t and (of course) vzw ones because of the carriers deciding to lock the @&$%/!? Bootloaders. Sprint and tmob sgs5s have always been an absolute cakewalk. Hell, I've bricked mine intentionally just to see if I could actually kill it. It's actually harder than one would think to seriously screw up a sgs5 esp a g900p
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Hi mate, of course this is a difference of opinion and I'm not posting here to argue with you so much as to give reasons for my post above.
When I say warranty issues, I mean in a sense that if you flash anything to your samsung then you've voided your warranty. If you customise on day 1, knox efuse are blown and it's impossible to revert what you have done. In this case your warranty is voided and samsung can refuse to honour any warranty issues irrelevant to your flashing. Basically you make changes to software on your device and later there is a hardware issue such as microphone not working - samsung don't have to honour that claim.
Flashing is a complete pain in the bum, to be honest. What makes it harder is these forums don't contain all of the information you need in once place. Compared to my previous devices such as HTC, you simply do a wipe and install the new rom. With the samsung you need to do the same PLUS find and flash the correct bootloader and modem. And this isn't even taking into consideration the knox trip issue. The roms aren't cross-compatible unless I've missed that bit of information? You technically can flash a g900F ROM to a g900i but to get it to boot you need to do additional steps. NFC and call recording wont work, though. So, no you can't really flash that way. Samsung may have made it easier for you guys in the USA, not sure.
I disagree about the bloatware statement, samsung have their own rubbish in there as well and most of it is redundant and not necessary. There's a samsung app store and a samsung account thing that lets you find your phone - google has all of that.
Lastly, when you trip knox this actually physically prevents some functionality on your phone, but I've never tried using that functionality anyway (although I did want to try it out). From memory this is a secure parition on the phone that you set up for your work, which is completely separate from the personal things on your phone which can be seen to make it more secure.
All the best,
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Hi mate, of course this is a difference of opinion and I'm not posting here to argue with you so much as to give reasons for my post above.
When I say warranty issues, I mean in a sense that if you flash anything to your samsung then you've voided your warranty. If you customise on day 1, knox efuse are blown and it's impossible to revert what you have done. In this case your warranty is voided and samsung can refuse to honour any warranty issues irrelevant to your flashing. Basically you make changes to software on your device and later there is a hardware issue such as microphone not working - samsung don't have to honour that claim.
Flashing is a complete pain in the bum, to be honest. What makes it harder is these forums don't contain all of the information you need in once place. Compared to my previous devices such as HTC, you simply do a wipe and install the new rom. With the samsung you need to do the same PLUS find and flash the correct bootloader and modem. And this isn't even taking into consideration the knox trip issue. The roms aren't cross-compatible unless I've missed that bit of information? You technically can flash a g900F ROM to a g900i but to get it to boot you need to do additional steps. NFC and call recording wont work, though. So, no you can't really flash that way. Samsung may have made it easier for you guys in the USA, not sure.
I disagree about the bloatware statement, samsung have their own rubbish in there as well and most of it is redundant and not necessary. There's a samsung app store and a samsung account thing that lets you find your phone - google has all of that.
Lastly, when you trip knox this actually physically prevents some functionality on your phone, but I've never tried using that functionality anyway (although I did want to try it out). From memory this is a secure parition on the phone that you set up for your work, which is completely separate from the personal things on your phone which can be seen to make it more secure.
All the best,
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I wasn't trying to argue either. It's rather hard to express tone over text I've just never had any trouble with flashing stuff on a Samsung since the epic touch 4g. Htcs have that goofy bootloader unlock that has to be done via htcdev.com. The newest Samsung I'd be willing to use is the S5 anyways because of the removable battery, external storage and waterproofing. The s6 sucks and the s7 has that dumb encrypted storage that made root hard for a while. Samsung's are far from perfect, and I'd likely be looking at a OnePlus or a Huawei in the future if I was shopping for a phone, but for those looking at either the second hand market, refurbs or a new one available for stupid cheap, S5s are great phones still.
Again, 0 arguing from me, like you said, just a differing opinion. Cheers mate! Btw, judging my the terms you used, I take it that you're in the UK, and thank goodness Jeremy Clarkson and the boys are back!!
youdoofus said:
CLEVER!!! LoL! No, that was actually pretty funny!
found it, its called "v root". it looks like its malware, but the one i got works fine
here is a bit of an older article that lists it first as a good program to root stuff
http://www.3ptechies.com/9-best-software-apps-to-root-android-devices.html
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Should I use the links in this "older article" to possibly get to vroot? Or do you have something more current? Thanks
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Should I use the links in this "older article" to possibly get to vroot? Or do you have something more current? Thanks
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Vroot has a site. Lemme look
http://vrootdownload.info/download/
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Vroot has a site. Lemme look
http://vrootdownload.info/download/
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Fantastic, thanks. Just to be sure, I want to use the one click root APK the part at the top under the first description, correct? The second section, as far as I can tell, is for iroot via a PC?
Is Titanium compatible with this method of root? What about recovery? Does Vroot have its own method or could I use TWRP or SafeStrap? Have you had any complications with the modem or WiFi using your device with Vroot?
Thank you!!
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I wasn't trying to argue either. It's rather hard to express tone over text
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Again, 0 arguing from me, like you said, just a differing opinion. Cheers mate! Btw, judging my the terms you used, I take it that you're in the UK, and thank goodness Jeremy Clarkson and the boys are back!!
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I said that I wasn't arguing for that very reason - I didn't want my second post to come across in a negative way. I could see that your post had come across in a good light and wanted to keep it that way
I am from UK but living in Australia at the moment. I last heard that Chris Evans has gone from the new Top Gear - thank F... for that, he's the biggest pleb going and watching the first couple of episodes were extremely painful and cringy. A number of things Chris said in the first show were somewhat not completely correct and I eventually switched it off.
Really looking forward to watching Clarkson and the gang - they're entertaining. Their top gear was more like a sit-com, which is what it's grown into and it works pretty well. Anyone in the family can watch it even if they know nothing about cars - I'll have to google for it because I don't know any details about their new show.

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