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My question is rather simple - is it worth unlocking the BL? I come from Xperia X8 forums, where I had a choice of many cool ROMs and kernels (not the newest ones, but still nice) and I loved playing with them. I enjoy tweaking my device with custom options, especially CM settings. As I recently bought the Xperia T, I'd like to know your opinion if it is worth getting a UBL and play with custom kernels and ROMs here yet, cause as far as I've read the Dev forums, the newest ROMs are still under heavy development and together with custom options, I love stability
It's completely up to you.
But if you want cm you have no choice, you have to unlock the boot loader
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I know CM equals UBL, but I mean if there are any nice pure CM ROMs out there that have least bugs
Yes, check the cm website, there is a stable cm10,
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Okay, thanks friend.
One thing bothers me now. I wanted to unlock my bootloader, but apparently, my Bootloader status says it's not allowed to unlock. Is there any way to get past this? I've been reading countless posts about this, but most people just say "pay 5 euro here, pay 10 dollars here"... So I think that maybe it is also possible without paying *shrug*. By the way, I've read that rooting the phone may cause a bug that shows bootloader status as not allowed to unlock and I just rooted my device recently.
If it says no, then there is currently no way to do it, don't pay anything, it's impossible
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Okay, so I'm sad now Maybe I'll manage to sell this device and buy an unlockable one. Thank you for your help.
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I rooted my phone with Bin4ry's method and so I thought that maybe it's a bug after all as it states in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186368
Maybe I could flash the .zip provided there? Although it's meant for Xperia Z apparently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39178406#post39178406
Take a backup and try it, it won't hurt if you have a backup.
But your bootloader must have been able to have been unlocked before, I think the bug is just that it changes the text...
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maybe your phone is unlockable but rooting is reason why your phone now shows bootloader unlock:NO(also my case) ... and i dont recommond flashing anything from xperia Z...
I flashed the .zip but still no luck. I'll reflash the device with SEUS and see if that helps. If not, I guess I'm doomed
So I've reflashed stock ROM with SEUS and it still says Bootloader unlock allowed: No...
What if I tried unlocking it even though it says no? Would that just fail to unlock or could it cause any damage?\
It won't do any damage, it just will not work
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I also had this problem, its because of the root with bin4ry! Do a factory reset and then you can unlock it~!
I already used SEUS to reflash and it still says Not available.
EDIT: I wanted to return the phone to the person I bought it from (from the internet), but he refused, because the screen protector and USB protector were taken off... Does anyone know if there will be a chance of unlocking this god-damned bootloader in near future? I don't wanna end up selling this phone to someone else...
Try this to see if it was the rooting method that changed your bootloader unlock status in the service menu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39166806
ROOT directly stock 4.1.2 with locked bl
I just tried it myself and it worked
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I flashed official ROM with SEUS and PC Companion, so it is not the rooting issue. It's just Orange and it's retarded policy of locking fastboot.
I am in the same situation. Switching from an iPhone to my Xperia T, bell mobility has bootloader locked and unfortunately.. Not seeing anything available in the near future. But lets just keep out hopes up!
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What about this post? I hardly believe it works, but worth asking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28765040&postcount=13
this thread talks about the test point method, although we do know where the test point is on a T, this method had been closed by Sony on newer releases than the S. Hence it cannot be used
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gregbradley said:
this thread talks about the test point method, although we do know where the test point is on a T, this method had been closed by Sony on newer releases than the S. Hence it cannot be used
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Ok, thank you so much for all your help Greg.
I've just put my Xperia on eBay. Once I sell this one, I'm gonna buy a new one, that I'll be able to unlock.
Mod can close this topic now.
I've been using motorola defy before I bought my xz. The whole world knows about motorola and their bootloader policies. They arent customer friendly and now google has upper hand over motorola. The 2010 motorola devices like moto defy which I was using before is stuck with a locked bl. With the locked bootloader, we used 2ndboot, 2nd init and stuffs which exactly made us use custom kernels
Custom kernels with locked bls!!
So I feel its possible to use all the non stock roms with locked bl.
Link of cm10.2 for moto defy which uses 2nd init, 2nd boot with custom kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385250
Any comments?
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Just read the stickies. This is nothing like the Defy in terms of the bootloader regime.
LenAsh said:
Just read the stickies. This is nothing like the Defy in terms of the bootloader regime.
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There is nothing in the stickies about the discussion in this thread and defy has a locked bl, people are using cm,aokp on it.
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Nope, unfortunately all carrier branded Xperias 2012 onwards are permanently bootloader locked. I'm not very familiar with the method you mentioned but I think I've heard of it before, sounds like kexec. To answer your questions, none of the devs here are willing to invest the amount of time it would take to be able to get a system like that working because they all have unlock-able devices as it is so they have no need for it
In short, as it stands non-unlockable bootloader, no custom kernel, no CM, AOKP, PA, MIUI. Sorry
I remember they unlocked the bootloader of the Xperia X10 backnin the day. I remember it was not that safe. One wrong flash and you could hard brick your device (did you brick your Defy that way). Unlike current official unlocking methods, today is very very hard to brick a device.
DrKrFfXx said:
I remember they unlocked the bootloader of the Xperia X10 backnin the day. I remember it was not that safe. One wrong flash and you could hard brick your device (did you brick your Defy that way). Unlike current official unlocking methods, today is very very hard to brick a device.
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Its tuff to brick defy cos it has locked bl. Moto devices had efuse command on the bl that anyone tries to unlock it, hack it, mess with it or somethin, you hard brick it! And defy has fastboot locked or devs there are in a great doubt whether if its even there in that device.. the bl is very very strong.non unlockable...
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There used to be 2nd boot , from there we can choose the boot methods like 2nd boot or 2nd init, and one thing..those devs are one rockin devs. Quarx and epsylon..they ve gone from eclair (2.1) to jb (4.3) !!. Patched hundreds in linux kernels and stuffs so that they can make it work..
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Nope, unfortunately all carrier branded Xperias 2012 onwards are permanently bootloader locked. I'm not very familiar with the method you mentioned but I think I've heard of it before, sounds like kexec. To answer your questions, none of the devs here are willing to invest the amount of time it would take to be able to get a system like that working because they all have unlock-able devices as it is so they have no need for it
In short, as it stands non-unlockable bootloader, no custom kernel, no CM, AOKP, PA, MIUI. Sorry
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Btw I bricked my defy..May be I'll play with it again and try reviving it..lol..
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All bootloader lock/unlock status with Xperia Z is tied up with TA partition. Any attempt to mess with it results in a hard-brick. Sorry guys
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I'd recommend reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287897
I post here all way I found on the web in order to root the S4 Active i9295 (international version) NOT AT&T version
I remind you that S4 Active have a knox security which is supposed to secure our data, in fact it's a way for Samsung to void our constructor's warranty if we change the firmware / software part of the phone as root, custom recovery, install a ROM from another than Samsung or from an other country than the phone ( more precisely baseband) origin. If you active knox's flag, a binary will be change from 0 to 1 into the motherboard of the phone and this is irriversible. But I found also that : http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31999L0044:FR:NOT (choose your language by the links in the tab). This European directive says that a constructor CAN'T VOID our legal warranty of 1 or 2 years if we change the software part of our item (terminal as tab, laptop... here smart phone)
Odin way with cf-auto-root file : http://www.phonandroid.com/forum/root-du-samsung-galaxy-s4-active-gt-i9295-t62684.html This method ACTIVE knox's flag to 0 x 1 In French
http://wccftech.com/guide-to-root-samsung-galaxy-s4-active-gt-i9295-sgh-i337/
In English
http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-cu...i9295-root-anleitung-mit-custom-recovery.html
In German
With KingoRoot software (that I tested and it works) : http://www.kingoapp.com/ this method doesn't active knox's flag but if you have a too updated version of android, kingoroot can says "It is impossible to root your device by employing exploits. Next, we will try to root it by flashing custom recovery through odin mode wich will void your warranty claim." CANCEL IMMEDIATELY, it means that if you continue the knox's flag will be actived.
Tuto : http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/173493-tutoroot-en-conservant-knox-0x0/ in French
And a last method that I haven't tryed : http://www.geekyguides.com/root-your-samsung-galaxy-s4-active-with-this-easy-method/ from this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTC7muLX5jM
Good Luck for your root ! I hope that my thread will help you. And as usual, it's at your own risks, I can't be responsible of a false manipulation.
I wait your returns !
But inteenational s4a still dont have knox activated in bootloader if you doesnt have 4.4.2, if you have 4.2.2 and root it even with custom recovery in download mode there is no knox warranty bit. So if you have 4.2.2 and no knox in download mode you can root it without thinking about knox. Yes? I rooted mine and than unrooted, I dont have knox bit so I still have warranty, yes or no?
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But inteenational s4a still dont have knox activated in bootloader if you doesnt have 4.4.2, if you have 4.2.2 and root it even with custom recovery in download mode there is no knox warranty bit. So if you have 4.2.2 and no knox in download mode you can root it without thinking about knox. Yes? I rooted mine and than unrooted, I dont have knox bit so I still have warranty, yes or no?
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I'm not sure but I would think that it would still trip a flash counter or void the warranty somehow through recovery. There's ways to undo this and/or cover your tracks, but I'm not too knowledgeable on the subject.
With KingoRoot software (that I tested and it works) : http://www.kingoapp.com/
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the file that they ask you to download seems to be a trojan?
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/...afaabd2b508a6ae91966f704b16616701e6/analysis/
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the file that they ask you to download seems to be a trojan?
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/...afaabd2b508a6ae91966f704b16616701e6/analysis/
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I waited for this question ! ...
Like all software which root / crack a firmware are considered as "Trojan" by a part of anti-virus, it's false as I tested on my PC, did buying on internet (Amazon, Ebay...) and all is good. I remind you that isn't my software but one than I found during my searches about S4 Active (i9295)'s root.
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But inteenational s4a still dont have knox activated in bootloader if you doesnt have 4.4.2, if you have 4.2.2 and root it even with custom recovery in download mode there is no knox warranty bit. So if you have 4.2.2 and no knox in download mode you can root it without thinking about knox. Yes? I rooted mine and than unrooted, I dont have knox bit so I still have warranty, yes or no?
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Surely, but I had to update to 4.2.2 in order to get frequencies of Free (French operator) on 4G and I watch on samsung website and they said there is Knox "Protection" to company into the S4 Active i9295
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And a last method that I haven't tryed : http://www.geekyguides.com/root-your-samsung-galaxy-s4-active-with-this-easy-method/ from this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTC7muLX5jM
Good Luck for your root ! I hope that my thread will help you. And as usual, it's at your own risks, I can't be responsible of a false manipulation.
I wait your returns !
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I personally just love the links leading to sites, where you can download something and win iPhone, 10years of free shopping or 1000virgins for your private use for 5 years (with 2 years warranty on their virginity, what doesn't affect your statutory rights).
Or, to call the things simply and straight: to the sites which are stealing your personal data: address, email, phone etc.
The price is not worth download.
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I bought my Active in cash for 440 euro and with 3 year legal warranty.But stock 4.2.2 is so laggy and stupid and pissed me out.I want to root it and flash some .4.4.2 custom but only,only if Im sure to may return to stock and use warranty.It have too many problems with water damaged phones,flappy usb covers and other.For these reasons I want to keep warranty.
"....But I found also that : http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/...99L0044:FR:NOT (choose your language by the links in the tab). This European directive says that a constructor CAN'T VOID our legal warranty of 1 or 2 years if we change the software part of our item (terminal as tab, laptop... here smart phone..."
This may be very very important.I look into it deeper.
Has anyone tried to root the latest 4.2.2 firmware for S4 Active i9295, namely I9295XXUBML3?
Chainfire Autoroot is detected by that frickin' Knox, which makes the phone unusable.
Kingoroot doesn't work either.
Does anybody know a working method?
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Has anyone tried to root the latest 4.2.2 firmware for S4 Active i9295, namely I9295XXUBML3?
Chainfire Autoroot is detected by that frickin' Knox, which makes the phone unusable.
Kingoroot doesn't work either.
Does anybody know a working method?
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The last is BNC2 according samsung-updates: http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9295
The normal file that I've been used doesn't work with this firmware version, so i tryed the file that is for the 4.4.2 versions (Kitkat) and worked! (DOWNLOAD HERE) The only thing i did is install manually super su from the Google Play and all done! :good:
BNC2 is for New Zealand only, for specific network reasons I think.
Anyway, for my European needs, BML3 is ok.
Which file are you referring to, CF-Auto-Root? For S4 9505 you mean? Because S4 9295 didn't get KitKat yet.
So you pushed it through Odin and then separately installed SuperSU, which should have been installed by CF-Auto-Root?
so far, saferoot is properly recognizing and disabling the KNOX without tripping it for all i9295 firmwares.
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so far, saferoot is properly recognizing and disabling the KNOX without tripping it for all i9295 firmwares.
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Thanx for the tip, I'll try saferoot :good:
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Thanx for the tip, I'll try saferoot :good:
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I'm interested if everything worked according to your requirements?
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Saalschlacht said:
I'm interested if everything worked according to your requirements?
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Actually, after installing the newer 4.2.2, I flashed CWM and from there (recovery) I flashed SuperSU_v1.94.zip and I got root.
I didn't need to try Saferoot anymore.
Ok, I rooted my S4A with same method. I tried safestrap, but i couldn't create a rom-slot... xD
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Ok, I rooted my S4A with same method. I tried safestrap, but i couldn't create a rom-slot... xD
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Could safestrap work for i9295? Hmmm.
I tried SAFESTRAP-JFLETATT-ACTIVE-3.65.apk
Isn't the right? Tried to use it on 4.2.2 stock rom...
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I tried SAFESTRAP-JFLETATT-ACTIVE-3.65.apk
Isn't the right? Tried to use it on 4.2.2 stock rom...
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Yeah but, you see, "JFLETATT" itself says that the phone needs to be "ATT" (namely AT&T version), aka i537.
The rest of us free people, with unlocked bootloaders, use i9295. You do too. So no wonder safestrap didn't work.
That is the reason I was so intrigued...
Hello all, my question is simple, i'm starting with the history of bootloader and sony brand.
And I want to know if anybody know how to hack the bootloader or other methode to bypass Bootloader allowed NO.
My Sony xperia is Sim Locked with SFR but i can unlock it, even if it changes nothing ( i think ^^).
Thank you for all.
Ps : don't be hard with me, i'm starting.
A french guy
No. There's currently no way around it and probably never will be, unfortunately.
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And no way with my operator or Sony ? ^^
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And no way with my operator or Sony ? ^^
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No. Sony will not change your bootloader as their customer (your operator) is the one that requested a non-unlockable bootloader for their devices. So, they will direct you to your operator and they will not have the means to unlock it for you even if they wanted to.
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Hello,
I just bought my Z1. I want to flash custom kernel and unlock bootloader (first, I will do backup TA), but what I will lose (X-Reality for example?), if I will unlock bootloader with official instruction?
Two question...
I read on the page
To unlock the Xperia™ Z1 boot loader, you must make sure your device is on software build 14.2.A.0.290 (Android 4.3) or later. Unlocking the boot loader on earlier software versions will stop the camera functionality.
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Is it mean, that Sony fixed problems with X-Reality and lower quality photos too?
Geoning said:
Hello,
I just bought my Z1. I want to flash custom kernel and unlock bootloader (first, I will do backup TA), but what I will lose (X-Reality for example?), if I will unlock bootloader with official instruction?
Two question...
I read on the page
Is it mean, that Sony fixed problems with X-Reality and lower quality photos too?
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No more lost X-Reality.
As for the camera, Sony was not very clear. Some who say yes, others say no difference in image quality.
Cheers.
Rafe said:
No more lost X-Reality.
As for the camera, Sony was not very clear. Some who say yes, others say no difference in image quality.
Cheers.
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So I will not lose any function and be calm?
Thank you for reply!
X-reality never worked for me on 4.4.4, locked or unlocked.
Geoning said:
Hello,
I just bought my Z1. I want to flash custom kernel and unlock bootloader (first, I will do backup TA), but what I will lose (X-Reality for example?), if I will unlock bootloader with official instruction?
Two question...
I read on the page
Is it mean, that Sony fixed problems with X-Reality and lower quality photos too?
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No more stop X-Reality in 4.3 or later
I unlocked my phone BL with no problem
Don't scare, and if you're sure; just do it bravely
SaeedFazlollahzadeh said:
No more stop X-Reality in 4.3 or later
I unlocked my phone BL with no problem
Don't scare, and if you're sure; just do it bravely
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Ok!
Thank you mates for replies!